dell laptop was running very hot, and laggy
tried lots of different things
eventually, i tried uninstalling dell optimiser. now it's completely fine.
piece of shit corporate AI bloatware.

T495s Ryzen 5 8gigs 256ssd non touch - 230$
Opinions?

>>109905708
Replacing RAM and storage is a little harder with the ultrabook style, since you have to take the whole back cover off, but repasting and cleaning the fans is much easier. The back cover screws are captive in all P16 gens.

>>109905281
Shameless. The 8 GB is soldered with no slot to upgrade it. Look for a T495 non-s or one with at least 16 soldered.

luv me T60, simple as

T480 bros... it's friday and i'm watching porn and playing old classics like Doom 2 on my laptop

Got a refurbished T480 about two weeks ago, but after a day of use it started having trouble charging. at first when it booted it showed the classic message saying that the AC adapter had a low wattage, but when plugged to the laptop it would charge for a moment, lighting up the LED before stopping as if unplugged, then it would reconnect again and so on. I thought it was the thunderbolt firmware but it seemed to be updated to its latest version and I already tried flashing it manually onto the chip using the CH341A. the batteries have already lost all the charge and now when I plug the adapter the LED doesn't even blink like before (on both USB C ports), it doesn't charge anymore. What should I do? what could it be? It was charging perfectly the first day I got it.

>>109910419
I hope it's not doing that bullshit where the USB-C ports die because the controller shipped retarded, it's one of the things that makes me glad I have an old ass T470 with the square lenovo DC in thing because it was durable as shit, USB-C port even if it's not fried is much much more easily broken than the old square Lenovo plug mounted to the laptop chassis and I wish T480 kept it.

Also, the AC adapter could've straight up died, I've had that happen on a Toshiba laptop and replacing it worked.

>>109910482
> USB C port
Yeah, I love T480 but good fuck, type C charging port has to be by far the worst design decision they could have made for the modern models.

>Also, the AC adapter could've straight up died, I've had that happen on a Toshiba laptop and replacing it worked.
Yeah, I thought it could also be that, I will see if I find a new adapter or maybe a phone charger with enough wattage to test. Praying to god its just that, otherwise I'll have to get a new mobo.

>>109905281
absolutely dogshit deal, I sold my T495s at 150 bucks and even so I still consider it as scamming normalfaggot with my overpriced thinkpad

>clips
When are we RETVRNING to just screws bros? Just might get a framework laptop for my next one in three years or so.

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>>109914445
I don't mind them, I've had my T470 bottom on and off so many times and it still snaps on nicely, What I do wanna see return on the Lelnovo laptops is pic rel, it wasn't as slick as Apple magsafe, but what Lenovo did do is make a power connector you could drop the fucking laptop on and and not break, as well as a laptop that could fall on the ground and not get fucking one shotted like a Mac, usb cannot be trusted to handle the abuse a Thinkpad might see.

>>109914489
>usb cannot be trusted to handle the abuse a Thinkpad might see
I looked it up because you're right, USB C isn't very robust, and you can apparently swap out USB C charging ports on the framework.

>>109914577
I do like the modular ports on the frameworks despite them not having been around very long, I like my Lelnovos but you bang a USB-C port and break it it's fucking done, you're doing a board repair or just swapping a system board which shouldn't even be something we're discussing, and it's bad enough the USB-C standard is what it is and not very durable, but it cannot be the only way to get power into a business laptop that is supposed to be durable and handle "the bumps and bruises of everyday life"

Do you prefer a backlit keyboard or the little LED in the top bezel of the screen?

>>109915476
I use a wireless keyboard.

>>109915476
both

>>109915476
I touch-type like a normal person. I miss using the little LED to read printouts without flooding the room with light though.

>>109914577
>framework
the moment you need to bring the "modules" with you when you go out, its no different than a dongle
the compromises they made to copy the macbook air was a huge disappointment

>>109915895
>the moment you need to bring the "modules" with you when you go out
I only need 1 usb c; 1 usb a; 1 hdmi; and 1 10gbe.

>>109915926
based and module-pilled

>>109915936
the 13 incher, which may replace my gen 3 X13 3-4 years down the line, is all I need. Literally just know what you will need for your machine and you'll be fine, maybe carry an emergency dongle for moar ports if you absolutely must.

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Your time is coming to an end, thinkniggers
The Googlebook century is upon us

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thoughts on the Panasonic CF-SV1? you can get one for around $200 if you import, sold my T440p to buy one because of the value proposition

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Hey question guys, I have a gen 1 e15 with the 10th gen i7 and integrated graphics and I see on eBay people are selling the boards with the rx640 dedicated gpu. Would it be possible for me to just drop that board into the laptop I have now?

>>109917019
>goolagbook
lmao, enjoy your botnet

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>>109917574
Decent specs, I guess. Keyboard is still shit; the design is not very human, and spare parts, like the battery, must be a pain in the ass to source, assuming you aren't willing to recell it yourself.
>for around $200 if you import
Cost of shipping and tariffs/duties included?

>>109917019
>Your time is coming to an end
All your base are belong to us.

>>109915476
Backlit kb; display LED is kinda ineffective desu. Unfortunately, the keys aren't transparent, so it kinda makes visibility only vaguely better.

>>109910419
>now when I plug the adapter the LED doesn't even blink like before (on both USB C ports)
I can't be bothered to check, but I read in passing that there was a recent wave of thinkpads dying due to failure of some component relevant to its charging circuitry. Might be an issue with the mosfets not being adequately cooled. IIRC, mosfets dying were a problem too, with that one Chinaman's drop-in motherboard, the one that got disappeared or something.

Only way to avoid this would have been to use thermal pads to cover the components not adequately cooled.

Normalfags' T480s are about to start failing en masse LOL!

>>109918483
>Normalfags' T480s are about to start failing en masse
Kek they might, and it's not even a thinkpad thing, but this just shit that happens when you have an old laptop, and why I tell people to not pay a shit ton of money for these things, I don't like it when normies are told by autistic people in YouTube shorts that the T480 is just the greatest thing, because normies are not technicians who can deal with crap that pops up, guys like us don't give a crap about our beat up worthless schizopad, I literally run a T470 with the batteries gutted out that bitches about what time it is when you unplug it, but I don't care, it was $75 for a sexy NVMe ultrabook with a 1080p screen and I'm not expecting a brand new laptop experience, but with the money people are forking out for a T480 these days, they will be underwhelmed by this old ass laptop that may not work perfectly due to age when the port(s) break or whatever else.

>>109917574
Not for me. The non-chiclet keyboard is appealing, sure, but I'm not giving up my trackpoint, PgUp/PgDn keys and SODIMMs just for that.

>>109917019
So are these just souped-up chromebooks or are they actual computers

>>109919472
It's called Googlebook OS and it's pretty much Android running on a Core Ultra processor with 16GB of RAM so it can handle Gemini.

I just hope you can get around it and put Linux on it if you come in contact with one of these fuckers, and you should never pay money for one of these fuckers.

>>109919491
>if you come in contact with one of these fuckers, and you should never pay money for one of these fuckers.
Don't worry, I just spent 800+ leafbucks on a new laptop that I don't even really need, I don't think I'll be coming near one of them any time soon and I certainly won't be spending money on them

>>109919500
Based, it's a real shame too they're even wasting a nice little ultrabook on a fucking Android-based thing which limits it's functionality in an age where people pretty much live out of their Galaxy phones, My Galaxy S26 has 12GB of ram, what the fuck do people need a 16GB of RAM ultrabook with Android for? Just sell a dock that plugs into the USB-C on the phone and blows everything up on a monitor with an attached keyboard and mouse.

Man, thank fuck for the German wiki. Recently got an X301 to use as a dedicated CD rippling/vinyl recording/legacy windows machine and for the life of me I couldn't find drivers for it. Lenovo's current support site doesn't recognize the serial number or have it as an option to download drivers for, and the English wiki page wasn't helpful either. German page thankfully has a link to the driver matrix, which is still hosted on Lenovo's site but none of their current webpages point to it.

>>109917574
only worth it if you are going to going there in person for a trip or whatever
do not go out of your way to import it

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>>109920387
here's my shipping costs, didn't have any tariffs

>>109920394
>>109918483

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>>109917574
I have the let's note fv4 and I love this thing to death. They brought it to the states but only sold it to businesses officially. It's beyond the scope of poorfag territory but it's a wonderful laptop.

>>109904508
Thoughts on the X280? I want a small reliable laptop and this was the last one that uses a 12.5in screen.

>>109921356
It's based as shit, but don't overpay for it just because it's the last of its kind, for some reason 8th gen laptops go for silly money compared to 7th gen and even newer than 8th gen Thinkpads.

>>109921382
16GB RAM models go for $250-300 which is probably overpriced. I may consider going up to the X390 though it's 13.3in, so idk.

>>109921402
Yeah a 13.3 inch is probably your future when it comes to reasonably priced smol laptops, but I think that's a nice screen size, I consider the 14 inch T series little guys with a lot of resolution

>>109921402
>X390
Only 0.4x0.8 cm larger than X280, barely noticeable

>>109922155
>>109922190
The novelty of the x280 goes out the window when you look at 13.3in since the market is flooded with 13.3in laptops. You might as well look at something else entirely.

>>109922286
13.3 inch laptop is based, if my A1466 Macbook Air wasn't so cucked compared to a T series, I would've lived out of that 1440x900 screen forever.

>>109922353
Wrong. The 11in MacBook Air was based. 13.3 is generic as fuck.

>>109904508
I have a thinkpad e15. What's bad about it?

>>109923146
It's gen 2. It's solid. I recommend it if you find it for a decent price.

>>109921356
It's nice and libre/coreboot compatible. Soldered RAM isn't much of an issue since you should always buy a system that already has what you need, as well as the fact that it's rather inadvisable to make any upgrades at the moment. If you really needed more than 16GB, chances are you'd be better off doing whatever workload requires that on a desktop instead.

Be mindful of issues with the TB controller firmware, and thermals. Go for a FHD display.

>>109921382
>for some reason 8th gen laptops go for silly money compared to 7th gen and even newer than 8th gen Thinkpads
Unsoldered RAM (soldered RAM is only an issue if you have 8GB), Windows 11 compatibility, and libre/coreboot compatibility. I'm not sure which of those three is most consequential. Windows 11 compatibility only affects normalfags, and libreboot compatibility only affects performative fags.

>>109924382
I found an x280 with 16gb ram, i7, and a touchscreen.

>>109921356
I got one to replace my X200 after it died. It's been perfect.

I am planning on upgrading my W520 very soon as it's gradually falling apart and it's at a point where I'm better off either getting a new W520 or a new computer entirely.

What is a newer Thinkpad like it in terms of durability and at least having socketable ram and CPU performance that won't shit the bed when playing a 1080p video like many late 2010s T or Xs?

>>109925829
The last socketed CPU was during the T440P haswell era Anon, they're really old, and I wouldn't go out of my way to use an old socketed CPU, just to get smoked the T460P/T470P (laptops you should look into because 14nm quad core beast), it's to the point where my old ass i5-7300U gives the 2720QM sandy quads a run for their money it's 10% slower on benchmarks then an old W520 but we're talking 12.48w of power used when I'm maxing it out compared to a 45w TDP CPU, that's pretty insane efficiency compared to 32nm.

Just get a T460P/T470P/T480 (reasonably priced) or newer Anon, you're gonna be getting such good performance you wouldn't even be thinking about upgrading the CPU because it's destroying what you have now.

>>109925923
To clarify, I meant socketable RAM. CPUs have indeed long since not been socketable and it's been a good five or so years since U class cpus started outperforming older M cpus. I just want a CPU that isn't a radiator but doesn't throttle to hell like the x260 I had did.

I actually had a t460 for a few years during college and I found the CPU to be a bit lacking even though it didn't throttle a lot. I heard literally right after those models did the CPUs start to actually not be shit. So I think that I'll be looking at something newer than the t460. Do you have any experience with P series or is that too expensive to really be worth considering?

>>109925983
Ah yes, T460/T460P/T470/T470P/T480 were all socketed RAM with both of them for matching dual channel, get something nice but do not overpay just because of the RAM slots like a lot of people are doing.

>>109925983
I've never had a "P" model but my T470 does what I need, if it was my main machine it would be ideal to have a quad core but you can get by on the 15w Ultrabook CPU.

>>109922918
Based 11 inch Air, literally the only place 1366x768 is appropriate.

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There any thinkpads with 120hz displays?

>>109926874
>What is a newer Thinkpad like it in terms of durability and at least having socketable ram and CPU performance that won't shit the bed when playing a 1080p video like many late 2010s T or Xs?
Yeah I think Lelnovo makes a 2.8K screen on carbon laptops with 120hz, glad they're getting with it on screens, I thought Chinkpads would top out at 1080P 60hz forever.

I could have lived with
>clipshit
but the notchshit is the last straw.

>>109927292
At least they put the two matching RAM slots in the Gen 5 T14, the way laptops had been going with the 8GB soldered on and RAM slot free piss me the fuck off because even if you do have a goofy ass 40GB of RAM, only 16GB can be used before it works in single channel mode which is really stupid.

>>109927309
nah, I'll be taking the frameworkpill for my next laptop

>>109927359
I wouldn't mind a framework laptop but the company is run by a jeet which immediately removes them as an option.

>>109927416
>but the company is run by a jeet
>it's real
It's over

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>>109927494
SAR YOU WILL REDEEM PAYMENT FOR THE SHITWORK 13

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>$630 monopologybucks = $445 USD
>T14 Gen 2 AMD Ryzen 7 Pro 5850U with Vega 8 igpu
Out of the older thinkpads, is this the best igpu option? Other choice which is more widely available is the Intel i7-1165/1185G7 but it seems that it has weaker performance unless it has dual channel ram which is hard to find in the descriptions on listings.

Thinkpad t570, thoughts?

>>109927928
Its have its baby brother T470 with 32GB stuffed in there and I love the thing, they also go much cheaper than a T480.

>>109928043
T580**

>>109927853
>amd
don't, get intel instead

>>109927928
>>109928043
>dual core

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>>109919600
>try to update BIOS
>lenovo's latest .exe fucking fails on 64 bit windows
>guess I'll download the bootable CD and make a live USB
>live USB doesn't boot
>mount .iso and look inside
>it's fucking blank
>check archive.org to see if they've got a different version
>they've got archives of the fucking Middleton BIOS releases
>it's based on a slightly older BIOS version (3.10 vs 3.16) but it's still newer than the current one and the program actually just werkz
>doesn't swap my FN+CTRL keys as it should, but it does apply my custom BIOS splash
Wew, that was retarded. Thank goodness for Middleton though, that's a name I haven't thought about in a long time. Now I've got all the functional Lelnovo updates and software installed, like a proper wifi card driver and the power manager stuff. Apparently the battery on this thing only has 196 cycles and still has 99% of its design capacity, which is insane for a 16-18 year old laptop.

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Fwupd is so based for guys like me with dead batteries, hope it doesn't brick

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>>109928427
Yea boi, thats amazing an old ass Kaby laptop and my i7 8700 got late 2024 bios updates but it didn't brick.

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>>109928440
>T470 scored 1959 on geekbench when I got it
>always wondered why my 7300U hung around base clock under load
>update bios
>3.2GHZ all day on 2 cores
>tfw 19% performance gain with a bios update

>>109928092
nta but what's bad about that? dual core higher clock vs many cores lower clock? programs still do not use all those other cores yet to this day

>>109928843
The "dual core" meme comes from the fact a T470/T570 will typically perform 40% worse overall than the T480/T580 with the quad core 8th gen CPUs (when they are being fully leveraged), the problem is that the 8th gen laptops are overpriced as shit compared to the dual core kaby lake laptops as well as newer than the 8th gen laptops, I personally think it's a bummer how low the performance uplift is on the T480/T580 considering it's a doubling of cores and you're not even getting double the performance due to the same 14nm technology operating in a 15W thermal envelope, that's why I tell people to not overpay for them and skip over T480 and get something newer unless the price is right.

>>109928869
Interesting desu. Ty!

>looking for a fresh cheapish laptops with a combination of no Winshit and an AMD CPU + dedicated AMD GPU
>this combination literally doesn't exist
The retail laptop market is utter shit. It's insane. It's all Winshit with Nvidia and COPILOT+. I just want a LibreOffice laptop that can play a couple games from 2015-2020 while running Linux properly

Also fuck the nonexistent choice of ARM Linux laptops

>>109929075
Agreed.
>ARM
What for? Most producers don't even bother with linux support.

>>109929140
Valve is making a compatibility layer that lets you run x84-64 programs on ARM so there's no real reason not to go ARM if the choice would be there

need to buy a new laptop for work
max €2500
what do i buy
as many cores, ram, storage as i can get

>>109929263
>so there's no real reason not to go ARM
Aside from not being able to unlock bootloader.

>>109929387
a-aieeee!

Wait I just found out Valve ALSO made a Proton-like but for Android APKs so I don't care about ARM lappies anymore. Now I just need to find a non winshit laptop with a dedicated AMD GPU

>>109927416
Framework laptops are so fucking jank and buggy I'm shocked more people haven't called them out on it. I regret buying mine.

>T14 gen 1
>put bottom cover back hinge-side first
>palmrest forever ruined
Fuck this enshittification by enthinnification

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>>109930186
a lot of them have fused their identity with the laptop
as in a moral justification to defend it

>>109931082
so they're like us you mean

>>109931471
but worse
think of it as a distilled version of the most faggy qualities
to be continuously dedicated to framework means deluding yourself in a web of superficial justifications and cope

any sane owner would conclude the laptop is shit like >>109930186 but the ones that stay weave more and more complex narratives
almost like a cult

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>>109904508
I got this tiny cheapshit surface book SE and it kept shutting down when I was installing windows. Apparently they automatically shut off when they "overheat". I'm returning this and getting an X280.

>>109931471
Framework consumers pay big bucks to buy new in the hopes of being able to swap parts out one day when the CPU and RAM get old. Thinkpad buyers stalk ebay and local marketplaces to find a cheap but high spec 5-10 year old business surplus machine, then haggle to get a better deal and put in some old RAM and SSDs from their last machine. Similar desires but for vastly different reasons and goals.

Also, only four ports ever on a Framework? Lame and gay, the worst Thinkpads worth looking at have at least 3 USB ports (mix of USB-A and USB-C) not including other ports like HDMI and micro SD.

>>109932720
>Also, only four ports ever on a Framework
wait until you find out those dongles drain power during sleep
and if the battery drains, early models get put into a bricked state

>>109932720
wtf, how stupid are the designers, really

>>109932926
also the keyboard is connected to the mobo by usb? this sounds inefficient all over, using higher level connections?

>>109932720
Four ports is pathetically anemic..What were they thinking

>>109930186
>Buy a non-established brand laptop
>get QA of a non-established brand laptop
I wouldn't buy one unless they've been around for at least 10 years. Thank you for your beta testing.

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my uni got a bunch of broken computers and laptops they never fix or throw away. i asked if i could get some and they gave me a latitude 3420 with a broken screen and no storage. will try replacing the screen soon and hopefully flash a new bios to remove the admin password.

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>>109932978
>>109933005
Y?

>>109932944
>>109932951
Years of Apple conditioning the industry to have fewer and fewer ports, and most normalfags not actually needing them. Bluetooth is so omnipresent and the airpods + clones sold so well that people no longer need to sacrifice a USB-A slot for a mouse and many don't care about 3.5mm jacks. Printers becoming wireless and a lot of paperwork going digital means that's one less reason to care about USB. Omnipresent wifi and proliferation of wireless displays means less emphasis on cables to connect a laptop for a presentation. Applel spearheading the rise of USB-C docks means that connectivity is offloaded from the machine to another brick that either stays on the desk or can get packed in the bag next to the charger.

Framework is meant for people with Macbook money, not so much the Thinkpad thrifter crowd. Four slots (realistically 1's always going to be USB-C to at least charge the thing, so pick what 3 you want) sounds appalling but it's about on par with Apple laptops. The real hope for repairability is other companies copying the design philosophy of Lenovo's new T14, and the incentive's there thanks to the EU passing more edicts to make computers more serviceable (it's part of why the Macbook Neo's so easily to mess with). I have more hope in the big enterprise companies to modify their design ethos than I do in Framework scaling up and claiming any significant fraction of market share.

>>109933142
don't forget framework design attempts to mimic macbook levels of sleek. think macbook air
even more so than thinkpads

these people sell upgrades to a chassis that is constrained leading to a faster rate of obsolescence which necessitates a need to upgrade sooner

and the best part is the fanboys take this feature as a moral win over apple

>>109928081
How come? Online it's saying that AMD is great.

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Had to replace a dead fan. Every time I open this thing up more and more of the shell breaks and doesn't snap together. Bought on eBay for 80bux 10 years ago. Still best laptop I've ever had. Yes I form emotional connections to inanimate objects.

>>109934038
bro...it's time to let it go..

i bought a gen 3 thinkpad x1 extreme in flawless condition six months ago. i9 processor and it has the awesome 4k screen so it also has the exposed carbon fiber top. the 4gb GPU isn't anything to brag about but still far more powerful than any onboard gpu.

>>109933015
Goodluck with that, why didn't they let you build a latitude frankenpad out of all the other dead ones?

>>109934038
Damm nigga are you throwing this on the ground everyday

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DELL Latitude 5420, Lenovo ThinkPad X13 Gen 1, Lenovo ThinkPad T480 or HP EliteBook 830 G8? I can get any of them for almost the same price, but idk which is better (general office laptop) desu

>>109933022
brainfart for posting QR instead of QA, sorry.

>>109933889
Ignore the shill. Avoid intel like the plague. Gen 13 and 14 are totally busted and will literally corrupt memory, and everything else overheats like crazy.

>>109936438
Get 830 G8, best value for money here by a long mile. Best CPU, best speaker, best build quality (yes even against the T480), dual sodimm slots. The downsides are subpar keyboard, cooling and 45% NTSC IPS panel. but should be decent for office. Avoid 5420 like a plague, dare I say build quality wise it's comparable to E series thinkpad. Nothing like its predecessors the Latitude 5400 and older

t. owned T480, 835 G8 (AMD version of 830), 5420 and X395 (not X13 G1 but pretty close)

>>109936607
Thanks desu. I'll buy that one then.

>>109931655
That thing looks like it was included in some Barbie play set, why would you willingly buy it?
Also get an X270(upgradeable RAM)or go up to an X390, X395, X13(bigger screen in the same footprint, but soldered ram)

>>109937846
Because I just wanted a small, shitty windows machine to keep the firmware in my other devices updated. I already ordered a x280 and it'll get here by Thursday. I main a Panasonic let's note fv4 with Gentoo so I'm not going to use a Thinkpad as my main computer.

>>109936502
That was only an issue with desktops (now fixed). Laptops with 13/14th gen are fine.

>>109937931
Tell that to my 14th gen intel laptop lmao

>>109937939
My 13th gen laptop compiles Gentoo packages everyday and I have zero issues with it. I just did an emerge -e @world yesterday when gcc updated. What shitty ass machine did you buy?

>>109937954
bad larp is bad

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>>109938028
Uh huh?

>>109938037
lmao self-pwn

>>109938057
Bot post

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Gonna perform a science experiment this weekend, see if I can swap my e15s board with this one. Now granted, the rx640 kinda sucks but it’s definitely better than the intel igpu graphics I’m running now.

>>109938625
Oh and this goes without saying but the Lenovo parts website is such a good deal it’s not even funny, that board was less than $50 when the same boards on eBay are $300+

any way to fix trackpoint drift on a chinese keyboard for t480?

Guys quick is used Thinkpad x1 yoga gen 6 with i7-1165g7 16 gb ram 256 gb ssd for 600$ a good deal?

I know $ goes before.

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>>109941160
I personally wouldn't even consider it an option unless it's half the price. No amount of X1 yoga marketing is worth of 600 bucks for fucking quad-core Tiger Lake

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Are thinkpads even good deals nowadays? I can find a similarly spec'd precision for ~2/3rds of the price that a thinkpad costs on the used market. Are they actually that much better? Was it always like this or is this a result of the memes becoming too popular, thereby increasing demand for them?

>>109941160
I'd say that's a bit expensive, also with only 16 gb ram it's not going to last you a long while, and it's non-upgradable iirc
I bought one with better specs for less than $600

>>109941675
as long as you buy the ones companies are getting rid off, which are the T14 gen 2 and 3 right now
newer are too expensive because they're not abundant like the older ones, and the T480 and similar are a bit overpriced honestly because of hype and shilling. T14 gen 2 and 3 give the most bang for your bucks, though the AMD gen 3 only has soldered ram
at least my impression is that they're still affordable

>>109934437
they just handed me this one when i asked. they usually don't give them out, so i am happy that i at least got something. and its in pretty good shape too besides the screen

>>109941160
I bought.
The next best thing is new one from China with i5 and 512gb ssd but for $1200.
It is hard out here in Russia.

>>109943746
The number.

>>109943754
Based, so many fucking Zoomers and Gen A literally will right three hundred dollars as "300$" instead of $300 because they're so uneducated.

>>109943759
>right three hundred dollars
write*

Jesus Christ I'm turning into theeeemmmm

six seven aahhhh

>>109943759
>300$
doesn't that make more sense tho? u never say "dollars 300" it always "300 dollars" :\

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My ThinkPad was overheating really quickly. Turns out the thermal paste was everywhere around the CPU but there was basically none on the CPU itself. Either the seller did a really bad repaste job, or it was the result of the paste pump-out effect or something.

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>>109944789
Fixed it by applying PTM. Also, since there's a cutout above the second thing next to the CPU, chatgpt told me it was the PCH and that in this model it shouldn't have any paste on it, so I didn't apply PTM there

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>>109944789
Holy fuck that's a horrific refurbishing job, thays why I like getting chinkpads from a recycler, yeah the laptop is what it is, but at least people who may not know what they're doing having touched it and want to charge you a lot of money becsuse muh refurb.

>>109944818
>having touched it
Haven't touched it**

Thinkpad newfag here, thoughts on smart standby? bloat? I'm on t14 gen2a

>>109944830
I don't see the point, just turn the thing off when you're not using it, not only that you could leave the thing running and let the screen go to sleep and it would barely use any energy, Intel CPUs go into such low power states and have since haswell that it's insane how little more power it uses than being completely off, all while being able to immediately be used, I've got an old ass T470 and that thing when left with the screen off, nothing going on will shut off the CPU fan, go into its low power state and the bottom of the laptop will start to become cool because of how the CPU is literally using 0.6w of power or even less because 0.6w was the haswell spec and I've got 14nm Kaby.

>>109944852
Ok I don't know anything about this stuff but I was leaning more toward not installing it. I'm on amd though (ryzen 5 pro 5650u), dunno if that makes a difference.

>>109944877
>ryzen 5 pro 5650u
That's based as shit Anon, wish I had a 15w six core.

>>109941785
what about workstations do they work the same? if so, which ones have good deals right now?

>>109944882
I asked about it here when I saw offer and was told to go for it. It has 32GB of ram and 512GB SSD, I'm happy with it so far. 32GB isn't as much of an improvement as expected it to be though, my last laptop was an old machine with a regular hard drive and 4GB of ram, things take significantly longer to load at first but I don't see much of a difference for once things have been fully loaded. I'm accustomed to the patience needed for my old machine so it's probably harder to feel the difference for me though. One thing I noticed having two config so far apart in terms of specs next to each other is that a lot of delay is actually baked into websites. For example I always have a slight yet noticeable delay when changing a video's quality on youtube and always thought that it was due to my old config being old (I have 500Mbps ethernet so I ruled that possibility out) but turns out I have the exact same delay with 32GB of ram and an SSD.

>>109945042
Yeah internet is so laggy and bloated on my 500mbps connection as well, that there's basically no difference in web browsing between my i7-8700 with 32GB of RAM, and my energy sipping T470 with less than 1/3 the CPU power and 32GB of RAM, bloat is a serious problem because it used to be that you could buy your way out of laggyness with more hardware, but things are so vibecoded and shitty, even beast computers hooked up to half a gig ethernet or better are lagging.

>ryzen
why

>>109945086
Because some people like to have good quality hardware that doesn't self-immolate, brick your laptop, or corrupt your memory while also saving a lot of money and getting better performance out of it despite a lower tdp.

>>109945079
uhhh.. why would you need 32GB on T470 again?

>posted from T460p with 32GB of ram

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>>109945478
Because virtualization and chrome is bloated, it sounds retarded to do on a dual core but my T470 edits 1080p60 clips in Vegas Pro on Virtualbox with Chrome tabs open, its very easy to be using 12GB of RAM or more, thats why I spent as little as possible for the T470 at $85 for a 1080p ips one, and then slammed 32GB in it for an extra $100, you end up with a laptop that's cheaper than a T480 that would be overpriced and come with 8GB or a budget laptop from the store with a horrible screen and maybe 8GB of RAM, the T470 with 32GB of RAM is weak on the processor but extremely usable because it won't slow down compared to an 8GB 16GB laptop when you load more stuff into memory than they have.

>>109927853
>T14 Gen 2 AMD Ryzen 7 Pro 5850U with Vega 8 igpu
boughted one more than year ago for about 500$. I'haven't seen i7-11xx in action, but compared to 8th gen 4core it's blazingly fast.

>>109945478
tab hoarding
t. T480s with 40GB

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I fell for the X280 meme

>>109948812
12.5 inches is like slightly above average phone screen.
It is really small and it will bother you for the rest of your life.

>>109949174
Jokes on you, that's what I'm looking for; a tiny machine to be my windows slave while I enjoy the fruits of Gentoo on my superior Panasonic Let's Note FV4.

>>109943776
I've always rationalized it as the dollar amount goes to the left of the decimal point, so the dollar sign follows. Vice versa for the cent sign. Not too sure how accurate that is.

>>109949174
I wish they'd made the X series that small again. I had an X260 when they were new. I'm currently using an X13 Gen 7 because it's the smallest Thinkpad and I still wish it was smaller. 12.5 was a happy medium between netbook size and "full size" 13.3.

>>109948812
How much did you boughted for? Refurbished?

>>109938037
thoughts on those adams? been considering getting them. how's the bass?

>>109949632
$300 for refurb - excellent
>>109949664
Love 'em. Bass is good by itself but I have them hooked up to a presonus eris 8 sub with a 80hz HPF.

>>109949751
>$300
>16GB, 256GB. 8th gen
This RAM shortage has us doing some crazy things.

I was always under the impression that neets on /g/ were frugal and smart with their money, getting all their loot for dirt cheap; I thought you guys min-maxed price to performance.

Did it at least come with a charger?

>>109950265
spending money on tech at all right now is being irresponsible with your money, but on the other hand the situation probably won't ever improve either so what choice do people even have anymore. it's only going to get worse from here

>>109950281
>spending money on tech at all right now is being irresponsible with your money
Depends on the platform and its price to performance.

For the most part, yes, but there's still the worthwhile deal here and there. I'd rather stubbornly wait months at a time waiting for a sanely priced listing than encourage scalpers. Unfortunately, the majority of buyers do not share this sentiment.

>but on the other hand the situation probably won't ever improve either
You're absolutely right! That's why it's a gamble on my part. Even if prices do come down (whenever that'll be...), they won't return back to what they were before the end of last year. That's a given.

The ideal scenario would've been for flash chip manufacturers to compensate by building more fabs, and shortly after having the entire AI industry collapse under its weight of false promises, exacerbated by Altman defaulting on his mass purchase. Unfortunately, they've been burned one to many times in the past, and if the AI industry were to collapse, it'd bring the entire economy down with it.

>>109950265
Yeah, it's in near mint condition with the OEM charger. I'm very happy with this thing and I love how small it is. I may consider doing some simple mods in the future if it impresses me enough.

which 15.6 inch models are the best value right now?

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>>109949630
It's just bezels

>>109950769
Whatever the latest T15 you can find. 16inch has been the industry standard for a while.

>>109950769
>4 cores, h series, sata, ddr4, <$100
precision 3520 / latitude e5570
>4 cores, h series, nvme, ddr4, <$100
precision 3540/ latitude 5501
>plays cs2, sata & nvme <$150
precision 7520
>faster quad core with better battery, nvme, ddr4, usb-c charger, plays cs2 with optional graphics, <$200
Precision 3560 / latitude 5520
>8 cores h series, plays modern games, ddr4, nvme, <$400
Precision 7560

>>109951252
Nothing is quite like the x280

Guys I tried overclocking the display on my t14s gen 1 and its been running for a week at 100hz without issue. GOATED laptop, honestly they must use some high quality displays.

>>109953318
Common ThinkChad W

I recently purchased an customer returned HP elitebook with an *advertised* battery capacity, both in hours and Wh. What's the best way/software to test the capacity so that I don't get fucked over? It was a suspiciously good deal so it's the first thing I want to check

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>1080p ips with the 7300U
>sata intel SSD still in it
>keyboard and trackpad mint
>lid mint
>rubber feet mint
>ultrabook sticker still on it because it lived such a soft life
What a rare find, my sister will get my somewhat beaten up but nice T470 with a small spot on the ips screen as a nice ultrabook to replace her dead Air and this will be the one in my collection

looking to get a x1 carbon 7th gen, but unsure if 14" is good enough?
Haven't had a laptop in a long time and my eyes are used tona 27" 1440p monitor.
Usecase is just general uni stuff, nothing too fancy just lots of reading and typing on the go

>>109956127
Should be fine. I don't feel anything switching between big curved color-accurate ultrawides at work and cheap 12.5-14" laptops at home. If unsure you can get a P1/X1E which is like X1C but 15.6".

>>109956127
14 inches is optimal for laptop just as 27 inches is optimal for desktop monitor.
It feels right.

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What do you guys use to clean an ebay stinkpad before use?

I've used this with a recently aquired Panasonic Toughpad and other used electronics in the past and had no issue. I'll be using it on a Thinkpad X395 on it's way to me.

>>109960027
Isopropyl alcohol. Same for smartphone, monitors, printer, etc.

>>109960027
50/70% IPA. If the screen is touchscreen, using anything other than distilled water may fuck up the screen if it has a polarized filter.

Picrel is probably too abrasive.

In all my retardation, I managed to break the fan heatsink cable connector plastic by trying to "carefully" take it out without pulling on the cable. I was using my spudger to push each side out of the connector. Now I have to buy another heatsink. :)))

>>109960467
I use a special screen cleaner that you can get from Best buy for TVs.

>>109961156
Post the damage. Maybe you can salvage it.

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>>109960126
This, ive cleaned my T470, my T470 touch with 70% isoprobyl and the matte screen still looks good

Which chinkpads actually have a metal cage instead of just "oh but there's 0.001mm of metal under all this shitty chink plastic"? Needs to support at least 32GB ram and 2TB SSD, rest is whatever. Of course, best if it doesn't sound like an airplane taking off whenever it's running, even on idle. 14'' screen only.

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>>109962027
Get a T470 or T480, it supports 2TB ssd, 32GB of ram, the thermals and sound are beautiful even when cpu is maxed out, theres nothing you're gonna do that's really gonna break the motherfucker either and 14 inch is perfect size for thinkpads.

This is what the fan sounds like at full speed.

https://files.catbox.moe/8qogu9.mp4

>>109962061
Gotta do streamable becsuse catbox wants to be a broken down piece of shit

https://streamable.com/x1i231

>>109962061
I had a t480 in the past and it was chink plastic of the worst kind. It's why I'm asking, I was assuming it was some kind of generational thing, like older t480's might have actual metal or something? I touched the touchpad with a moist finger once (not wet, just moist) and the touchpad just went. I opened it to fix it, but the chink plastic fissured.
Some time previously I had a shitty full-abs dell inspiron. That was maybe in 2005 or earlier. Despite being plastic, it never broke the way this thinkpad did, and I bet I could have dumped a glass of water on it no problem.
Otherwise I had a dell latitude with a real full-metal cage that was really nice in terms of build quality. Only flaw was the hard drive would cause the whole cage to vibrate. Otherwise decent temperature distribution, no fan noise issue, decent price, great specs except shitty screen.
Given chinkpads' reputation compared to my only experience with them, I had assumed I must have received a dud, as in maybe there are secret good batches to watch out for?

>>109962078
I can't speak for T480 but the multiple T470 ive come across have been amazing, my main beater one with the non HD screen works amazing despite having been roughoused previously, I actually like the T470 because it had the old school Lenovo box power plug that's not soldered to the board like the T480's usb-c power connector that you absolutely cannot drop the laptop onto like the old days or it will be fucked, so unfortunately the T480 did give up some duruability at least when it came to being USB C charging only, the T470 can be charged via the usb c thunderbolt port, but should that break you always have the trusty square connector.

It also wouldnt surprise me if someone previously spilled shit into your track pad previously, the water drain channels in a ThinkPad are made to save the motherboard from death, not the track pad, I remember Louis Rossmann dumped a bunch of shit into his P50 and his track pad buttons and fingerprint thing died, but the laptop did stay working as a laptop and that's where the durability is, you can kiss an apple laptop goodbye if water gets on it or it drops.

>>109962108
I've done some quick reading and found that it's definitely possible that there are batch differences. First, there's a t480 25th edition, which is said to have at least a different finish if not different material. Still seems plastic, though.
Second, I read that some t480 actually use magnesium instead of plastic, though most use plastic. People note that the magnesium ones are better built including with in-bored screw holes which break far more rarely. It is not yet clear to me how to find the right one.
I thought t480 was just "a better t470" but from what you're saying it might be worth investigating this kind of question with t470's as well.

>>109962126
Yeah the 25th anniversary was a T470 based laptop, it was really silly at the time becsuse its a $1900 "collector edition" of an ultrabook whise base configuration in late 2017 could be had for $685 on sale, but in 2026, I dont think a nicely configured T470 with a 1080p IPS screen is something to discount if you can get it for like $100 dollars or less, people often get into thinkpads and think its either T480 or nothing, or theyll be on a budget and spent more than a T470 costs upgrading a T440P with stupid shit like 1080 ips screen and cpu, when they could just got the non memed T470 with the ips screen already in it and it not be overpriced due to memes.

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Are all thin modern laptops like this? My L13 is so flexible and bends so easily it doesn't feel like a thinkpad. It's hard to imagine the consumer laptops are worse. Is X13 is huge improvement and turns into a tank like the x230, or not really?

>>109962164
Yeah, they're virtually all like this. Personally I'm very interested in the panasonic let's note and the vaio laptops for these reasons, they seem to be some of the last laptops with any reasonable build qualities, but I can't get them easily over here. Will have to look into imports, even then options are sparse.

>>109962164
Chinkpad X, T, P and whatever else expensive series are the ones you want anon, Lenovo found out they could dress ideapads as chinkpads becsuse people like the lookout want a track point but its not the same, just becsuse a laptop is thin does not mean it can't be solid as a piece of wood.

>>109962202
>lookout
Look, and

>>109962164
L13 is shit, get X13 instead. X13 is basically T14s in 13 inch form. Dare I say X13 feels slightly more premium than regular T14.

Of course it won't be as rigid as X230, still a worthy improvement from L13

> T14 G1 Ryzen 7 4750 16Gb onboard with the 400 nit screen. Battery is mint, lappie has been barely touched or looked at.
370 eurobucks. I have a 16gb stick and 1TB ssd laying on my thrash heap I can insert.

The second hand chinkpad market in my country is fucked, is the above still viable or should I cave in and get an Elitebook with slightly higher specs for 50 to 100 eurobucks more? I won't be able to larp with the red nipple.

>>109962578
>8c16t beast and ts 15w
Based laptop, that and 32gb dual channel are gonna do well for a long time, just think of it as 370 bucks spread over at least 5 years of you keeping the thing and its really worth it.

>>109962078
(s) models like t450s, t14s are made out of magnesium alloy (which is nice), but have often soldered ram or lack ethernet.

>>109962733
Ah, cool! I'll see if I can find for s models then.

>>109962733
>(s) models like t450s, t14s are made out of magnesium alloy
Makes sense why my mom's work T480s felt so much sturdier than my T470 despite it being gimped with 8GB of soldered ram, the solid as a rock magnesium feeling is the only thing I miss about my latitude E6400 despite the slowness, the thing was a brick, the carbon fiber infused plastic of a T470 will get sorta deformed of even crack off when the laptop gets dropped and smashed into stuff, its still durable as shit and the laptop is light and sexy but my god is mag alloy nice compared to the reinforced fiberglass snap on cover of a T470, its very common to see chunks missing if its a beat the fuck up unit meanwhile ive never see a mag alloy laptop get a dent.

What's people's thoughts on X1 carbon gen 13 with the 2.8k oled?

I do backend crudslop so I don't need amazing specs just a nice screen to look at a good keyboard to type on.

Prev Thinkpads:
X240
X1 Tablet G3
T14s ;)

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Ello. I have been thinking about buying a refurbed thinkpad. Pic rel, which of these are reasonably good for the price? There are many to choose from, i haven't a clue which.

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>>109961578
Sorry, I just woke up. I should clarify that I was pushing out one side at a time, and towards the end, it clipped on one side as I was pushing it out and broke the plastic. This never happened to me before and I didn't realize how fragile this shit really was. The board connector looks fine, though.

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>>109904508
Reposting from another thread. Any idea on how to remove these two stands? They're magnesium.
It's a T25-T480 mod. The only issue I have is removing these two.

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>>109963530
The guy who sold it to me (xytech, long dead) used a Dremel or so it seems. I'd avoid making it look like this.

>>109962027
T460s through T480s have a really nice build. Magnesium bottom and middle, CFRP lid. Feels almost like X220/X230. T480s is the best of these having two SSD slots, one large battery instead of two small ones, and easy-to-source replacement keyboards and touchpads.

Sadly all of the later Ts models remove the central sheet of magnesium and make the keyboard a structural element (and do away with the RAM slot too).

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>>109962061
>32GB of ram
I can't say for the T470 but the T480 supports 64GB, that's what I have in mine

>>109963946
Based, if that's the case the two 32gb so-dimms will work in a T470 but only at 2133MHz because the laptops are the same technology when it comes to the memory controller, the intel graphics, there was even a T480 optional with the dual core 7300U for people who hate life and want to pay a bunch of money for a new laptop and be dual core gang like the T470 bros.

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Put 7 on my beloved E6400 like the old days before it goes to live in the storage collection, this was a beast laptop for 11 years.

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retard here I got a question: I was looking for a new thinkpad on ebay (wanted 16gb ram) and at some price point (e.g. $300) there are all kinds of thinkpads. how do I filter them down? should I just go with the newest one or with the strongest CPU?

>>109965631
Yes, the newest one you can afford is best one unless you're trying to run old software.

>>109965631
Screen size can be useful but I still come across plenty of listing with incorrect or missing details.

>>109964394
Back in the days where trackpads were allowed to be good and usable with buttons placed where they should be (BELOW the pad, people. But hey, any buttons is better than modern craptops).

>>109965684
>>109965748
thanks lads!

What should I put in my x220's expresscard slot? It's an i7 so I already have a USB 3 port.

>>109966399
2242 NVMe in one of those China adapters

can someone tell me what the two little grids under the palmrest of the x230t are for? AIs are retarded and think its the speakers when it clearly isn't.
I just wanna make sure it's not the air intake, I often have my clothes pressed against them when I draw with the laptop on my lap, I don't want this to become an issue.

is there any point to a Thinkbook?

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>>109968212
>Thinkbook
damn that's one wide boi

>>109968333
That's a big selling point. A large one.

>>109904508
>have monoprice DisplayPort to VGA adapter with CRT
>want to connect t14 g5 to it
>no problem, let's buy a USB C to DisplayPort adapter off eBay for $4
>doesn't work, learn about pin 20 power problem
>usb c docks aren't even advertising if they provide pin20 powered DisplayPort output or not
Fucking niggers. Why can't anything be simple.

>>109968380
>usb c docks aren't even advertising if they provide pin20 powered DisplayPort output or not
Dunno, don't see what's surprising about not mentioning a feature that isn't there.

>>109954759
really celebrating buying a 10 year old piece of shit dual core

>>109968974
ywnbaw

>>109969237
imported this britpad to america.
got 2x4gb ram and an SSD on the way.
plan to get a battery and a fresh clit soon too.
needs a teardown... gonna apply fresh paste and clean the whole damn thing vigorously. tips?

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>>109970138
pic rel

>>109969138
For $110 yes, its hard finding a ThinkPad not only in really good condition, but still has an SSD in it thungs are getting so retarded the recyclers will rip the ssd out and sell the rest of the laptop, go look up T470 and T480 on eBay, see how many of them are not only beaten up, but really expensive and dont even have a drive in them.

>>109962915
Scalp-tier

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>>109904508
Eastern yuropoor here, trying to scoop up a used t14s - preferably gen 4 or 3 with AMD - the prices are all fucked up, even t14s gen 3 with amd already goes 300 usd up in price compared to intel, t14 gen 1/2 are much more common
Is t14s that much of an upgrade compared to regular? And is gen 3-4 that much of a jump? I’d be thankful for advice anons
I have a t450s that Ill be keeping to fuck around but I need some daily driver windows 11 machine because my work(non-IT) requires it

>>109968169
All the holes on the bottom (besides the drainage holes) are air intake/air flow. The main ones are under the actual fan though.

Swapped the main board on my e15 gen 1, went from the cheapo i5 with integrated graphics to the i7 510u with Radeon rx 640, popped in 32gb of ram too since I had it sitting around. Aside from forgetting to make the u1 usb I had zero issues. The board cost me 60 bucks so I’d say this was a great deal, and the setup is surprisingly snappy considering the 640 isn’t exactly top of the line, a lot of games run pretty well on it. Overall I feel like my money was well spent.

/tpg/ how bad are the OLEDs in something like P15 G1/G2? Is the PWM flicker really bad?

>>109971396
It's depressing, the P15 Gen 1 with OLED 4K usually come with a 8C cpu but all the IPS 4K ones I find have a 6C cpu :S

>inb4 who needs 4K on 15"

I want the 4K display for the better contrast, it's 1400:1 compared to the 700:1 of the base FHD model. The higher FHD model has 1200:1 but lets be honest it's probably all the bottom spec displays out there.

I'm a bit worried about going OLED. Burn-in is one thing, but I read a lot about the supposed pwm flicker...

>>109971263
t14s has better chasis, magnesium just like your t450s. lacks ethernet and you won't be able to upgrade the ram. regular t14 is plastic (but feels ok). for daily driver t14s might be a better option afterall.
amds are rare af compared to intel in my easternyuropoor area.
basically you can get:
t14 g1 - $200-250
t14 g2 - $300
t14s g1 - $300
t14s g2 - $350+
11the gen intel is about 30% faster than 10th gen, igpu should be significantly faster.
tough call. would love to have t14s chasis, but 16G ram would piss me off.

>>109971271
I see, thanks. If those two aren't the main/only air intakes, I assume it's fine if they're obstructed every once in a while.

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Lenovo ThinkPad T14S Gen 1 w AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 4750U @ 1.70GHz (8M Cache, up to 4.10 GHz), worth it? Good chassis? Build quality? Price is 299 euros. Best deal i can find around here desu, most are 150 euros more expensive.
>usecease?
browsing, university and old games.

Should've never bought a t490

>>109971605
Bro who cares about burn-in.

Older OLEDs suck because their PWM frequency is low (240Hz).
The newer OLEDs on ThinkPads(new as in just last year) have PWM frequencies around 1,200Hz.
At 1,200Hz, it's much easier on the eyes.

I've found the OLED panels on ThinkPads to suck dick as they're very grainy on gray backgrounds and have ugly green tints on all the ones I've used.

>>109973909
Yeah I really hope I find the IPS 4K display version without all the other specs being shit

Why the fuck would one pair a 4K panel with a 6C cpu and quadro T1000?!

The guy shipped usb-c replacement for my x220, breddy excited

>>109974071
How about you don't break it next time?

Why bother with a thinkpad? Macs are practically the same price and their CPU blows anything else out the water, even destroying high-end desktop CPUs. Typically come with more, higher-quality ram than thinkpads can muster, much better screens, and npu is a bonus. Better battery life, too, and the build quality trounces any thinkpad.

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>>109975160
No, I'm really asking.

>>109974894
I'd pay extra NOT to use macOS

>>109975206
Although I also agree that mac os is disgusting, there is always asahi linux even if it's not up to m5 quite yet. Basically, I would happily pay more than I would for an m5 mbp if there was a non-apple laptop of comparable specs (meaning good quality shell, good screen and av capabilities, top tier CPU and ram capacity, good drive space, great battery life). I've long given up on caring about modularity/repairability, doesn't exist in 2026 at all.

>>109974894
Hitler mustache on my monitor?
I am racist but not THAT racist.

>>109975728
Kek

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Do I need to take the motherboard out of a X201T to clean the fan and reapply thermal paste?

The service guide and pictures seems to suggest so

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>>109972663
I have one and I'm very happy with it. My main complaint is the refurbisher just stamped the keyboard covering the backlight and the coating wears. For me its decently powerful, rarely uses a fan, and can run my 4k monitor at 160hz but only through the usb c port.

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>>109974894
>Why bother with a thinkpad? Macs are practically the same price and their CPU blows anything else out the water, even destroying high-end desktop CPUs. Typically come with more, higher-quality ram than thinkpads can muster, much better screens, and npu is a bonus. Better battery life, too, and the build quality trounces any thinkpad.

>>109975728
kek

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>T14 Gen2 Ryzen 5 5650U 16gb 512gb - Renewed Excellent
>T14s Gen2 i7-1185g7 16gb 256gb - Renewed Excellent
>Samsung Galaxy Book4 Edge Qualcomm Snapdragon X Plus 16gb 256gb - *Brand New*

Which of these is the best choice?

>>109977356
This is not USD, so it would be
>$370
>$448
>525

>>109977356
I would go for ryzen from longevity perspective. It has +2 cpu cores and upgradable ram. 16GB is ok atm, but it will suck in the coming years.

I'm looking to add to my collection, I already have a 485. What's a good one to get? Preferably 32gb for RAM.

>>109981105
Try minimalism. Only buy something if you actually need it.

>>109981606
Ok, you're right. My little machine does what it needs to.

>>109978810
You'd go for that over the T14s? It has a full aluminum build, a better gpu and thunderbolt 4 ports.
The Samsung is interesting as well seeing as how the X cpu is MUCH better than either Thinkpad and comes with 16gb lpddr5x - if longevity is a concern, wouldn't it be the best option?

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Thinking about getting p14s g2 ryzen 7. Expecting it to be around $500 after screen and ram upgrades.

Is dropping ~150 more for a 32gb stick (48gb total) worth doing? will price go up still? or keep 16gb stick plan (32gb total)

Also worried about the usb C charge port on motherboard, already wore out one such port this way, in about a year. would getting a magnetic charger adapter help? otherwise the dumb thing would last just two years of my abuse

>>109970152
my dual core is ewaste

>>109970147
they're so hot but completely useless

>>109983738
Definitely worth it to get to 48gb. The difference between less than and more than 32GB is huge and you can always use more room for most activities. If you ever use d*cker containers or VMs or anything like that, or even just many chrome tabs, for example.

How much should I be paying for an X230? I found one in my turd world country for around $60. i5-3210, only 4GB RAM but I have an 8GB kit laying around from when I upgraded my T430 to 16. y/n?

>>109985872
Good price if complete and in decent condition
Bad price if cracked, missing screws, or missing the battery

I can't pinpoint why exactly but audio on my T14 gen2 doesn't hit quite the same way as my old asus laptop used to. There's something lacking. I'm not even an audiophile. Using some old $20 wired apple earpods. What's your experience with sound quality on thinkpad? Will I have to buy audio equipment?

>>109986155
Also I disabled windows' audio enhancement / audio processing object since it just wrecks audio fidelity if I'm not mistaken.

>>109927853
I have this thing with the i5 in it, it's a piece of shit. I have a little MSI box with Ryzen 7 5800X in it and it runs laps around this thing, and the case/ports aren't the best either. HDMI out doesn't work on mine. Work laptop, so I don't really care.

>>109983168
x86 has way more use to me than arm even though I wouldn't mind playing with it. so samsung is meh.
t14s only selling point to me is magnesium chasis, but 16GB is not much these days considering memory leaks in browsers and virtualization.
so the t14 with ryzen wins. iris xe gpu is somehow slightly faster, but ryzen has more cpu power... thunderbolt might be interesting to some, but I like old school docking stations like 40aj that will work with it.
upgradable ram wins in the end imho.

>>109943776
>doesn't that make more sense tho? u never say "dollars 300" it always "300 dollars" :\
No, it's one of those proper rules of English. For example, you don't type the digits of the numbers zero through nine when writing. On a document for numerical reasons (like page numbers, or maths) you can use 0-9. Otherwise you type out the words if they're less than 10.
>>109949622
The cent sign should also not be used in written English, you would express everything less than $1 as nine cents, or 55 cents. The sign is only used on currency, or in a ledger referencing currency.

p.s. the original 'dollar sign' has it's own history
https://99percentinvisible.org/article/monetary-design-mystery-nebulous-origins-americas-iconic-dollar-sign/

>>109986146
Yeah it needs a battery. Guess I'll pass.

>>109986155
>sound quality on thinkpad
an oxymoron, except maybe in X1 series

>>109986707
On speakers? For sure. Plugged in? I expected it to at least be on par with my 13 years old asus laptop.

>>109904508
I have an X395 with Computrace enabled but not active

Can I disable Computrace and continue on as normal, or will it phone home and brick it's self?

>>109987838
You can disable it, nothing will happen

>>109986155
Just get a usb-c to aux DAC. It blows pretty much every laptop out of the water.

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bros, if i remove WLAN card whitelist on my X230 and install AC-3160 or something newer, will the WLAN card still allow for remote access in Intel ME/AMT/vPro?
I'd assume Intel ME would only come with the drivers for whitelisted WLAN cards, same as with the embedded Intel NIC?

>>109987838
Permanently disable it before it starts producing nerve gas!!1!

>>109989442
>if i remove WLAN card whitelist on my X230 and install AC-3160 or something newer, will the WLAN card still allow for remote access in Intel ME/AMT/vPro?
Holy shit, anon's figured it out! Why hasn't anyone thought of this before? Libreboot obsolete. Glowniggers BTFO!

>>109989686
retard, i WANT to be able to still access Intel AMT, that's why i'm asking.
If swapping the card means wireless AMT no longer works, i'll keep on using N-6205.

This doesn’t relate to thinkpads, although my I’m using my T570 for this post. I just trust you guys more than any other group.

Would you rather have a Ryzen 7 7800X3D + 32gbs ddr5 cl30 single rank ram
Or a Ryzen 5 7600X + 32gbs ddr5 cl30 dual rank ram?

Idk if single vs dual ram is that big of a deal.

>>109970152
I wouldn't even buy a thinkpad at that point then, it's not 2008 anymore

>>109990182
Funny you mention the T570, I have the T470 and the CPU performance increased by 9.4% on Geekkbench just by having another so-dimm in it for dual channel even on an old ass laptop, dual channel is a big deal because of how in inherently bottlenecked by RAM computers are.

>>109990497
Well shit.
I figured dual channel would be a big improvement, but I wonder if the cpu difference would be even larger between the Ryzen 7 7800X3D Vs the 5 7600X?

>>109991391
The 3x more cache on a 7800X3D would make is perform considerably better than the 7600X because there's more to CPUs than MHz, it's only a contributing thing.

Anyone ever had to deal with a stripped captured screw on the underside of a T480? What are my options?

I'm thinking I could nigger rig some superglue onto a screwdriver and remove it later with acetone/IPA. Or maybe just go the based retard route and drill straight through it? I don't really wanna buy a drill extractor set just to get this nigger out.

>>109991809
>Or maybe just go the based retard route and drill straight through it?
That's not a bad idea considering the screws are captive and can't be replaced without replacing the bottom cover, super glue it and unscrew away

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>Bought used Thinkpad X1 yoga gen 6
>Came with freshly installed win11 pro
>Do the clean install of win 11 IoT enterprise LTSC with full drive formatting
>It activates by itself
Figures.
It has incredibly good sound from speakers, didn't expect that.

>>109904508
Looking for some help for a fan controller on the Thinkpad P15 Gen2. All I could find online was to change the power settings rather than the fan itself and a few sketchy fan patches that did not really cover my model specifically. is there a recommended fan controller that would work well with P series laptops?

>>109991920
My only concern with supergluing it is the risk of the glue going down into the thread and into the motherboard, and then having to deal with a motherboard that's stuck to the chassis. Idk how effective IPA would be in unsticking it.

If I were to drill the head shmoove off, Idk if there are any other components that would be stuck in place due to the thread that remains inside the chassis. I'll have to look at the manual.

Are the amd t14 gen 1 and 2 different enough to matter. Only difference I can see is 4650 vs 5650 but the price difference between the two is often $100-$150 more. Doesn't seem worth the extra $100 for a processor that's marginally better.

>>109993262
Yeah an extra 150 isn't worth a marginal increase, it's still Zen 2, and better than an old 14nm Intel laptop that people still want a lot of money for some reason.

>>109993262
It's only worth it if you really need all the battery life you can get

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Only reliable option for a T480 I could find was the i7 variant, how fucked am I? Most people seem to say just get the i5.

>>109993496
You shouldn't be getting a T480 in 2026 unless it's dirt cheap, because its days as the laptop per dollar option are long gone.

>>109993510
What the FUCK.
What is the best budget niggerpad In 2026 then?

>>109993544
T14 G1-2
T460p / T470p

X270 / X395 / X13 G1-2 for ultraportables

>>109993556
>T460p / T470p
Based and underrated, T470 still slaps as budget ultrabook that you can get relatively cheap put 32GB of RAM in if you want, and the higher end 14nm Skylake and Kaby P laptops are amazing and don't have the T480 tax, and the 7700HQ is like 15 percent faster than an 8350u which is cucked by the 15w power limit, which limited the performance gain over a T470 (40%+ performance gain despite 100% more cores)

>>109993556
Shit loads of T14 Gen 2s near me, I'm guessing Ryzen is the better choice? For around $50 more I could get the T14 Gen 3? how do those two generations compare?