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Previous thread: >>109887429
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debian stable + backports + xfce
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>>109912384
But I have a HDR VRR monitor.
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>build binary
>package it
>distribute the package
>because of some reasons, the package in question is called a backport
Explain to a retard what makes something a "backport".
Another question:
>build kernel
>kernel has modules
>some modules get loaded instantly when the system boots up
Any reason to not embed those modules into the kernel image? As in say Yes instead of Module in the nconfig.
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>>109912247
is steamos released yet?
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>>109912396
Debian Sid || Fedora || Arch
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>>109912534
Debian stable isn't the problem for monitors here, it's X11 and by extension Xfce.
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>>109912480
>Any reason to not embed those modules into the kernel image?
Could be licensing, unmaintained code or inadequate testing.
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>>109912481
Just install cachyos handheld or bazzite
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What do you consider the killer apps for Linux that you can't get on Windows? For me it's something like this:
>DISCOVER
Update all your programs + install system updates with one button, and you can search up whatever program you want and click one button to install it! You can also choose whether to install updates in-place or after a reboot.
>SPECTACLE
This thing mogs Snipping Tool so badly that it's not even funny. You can put text on it, it has OCR, you can choose to simply capture a specific window WITH TRANSPARENCY + WINDOW SHADOW, you can record videos, and you can even set launch options: want it to launch straight into the rectangular selection? You can do that and get snipping by clicking on the taskbar shortcut.
>DESKTOP ENVIRONMENTS
This is basically not even a thing on Windows, never mind that Microsoft intentionally breaks your Windows tweaks via updates even when said updates don't actually pertain to the relevant .dll's lol.
>chroot
Anyone fixing their Winfag friend's laptop would've killed to have access to this
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>>109912593
Everything listed in the configuration is free as in freedom, I'm not embedding any proprietary blobs.
(and even if I were embedding blobs, it makes no difference as the kernel is for my personal use)
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what hacks for optimizing a shitty laptop cpu on my grandmas laptop? ram is no issue, ssd is there, but the cpu remains shit.
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>>109912609
Hard to think of any killer apps, just concepts or low level programs like containers, shell scripting, or Btrfs. Windows can do those too but they're of lower quality. Of those that you mentioned I think Spectacle could be one of those. KDE has really given a glow up to it.
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>>109912247
How far gone am I if I can spot USS Laffey, HMS Javelin and KMS Z23 just by their feet?
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Has anyone tried chris titus' dwm fedora distro, I'm thinking of trying it
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Install Source Mage Gnu/Linux
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>>109912641
What OS/DE did you toss on it?
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>>109913359
Fedora with KDE.
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the per-application volume curve in cachyos is completely fucked, anything below 40% is nearly silence. can it be fixed?
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>>109913467
https://fedoraproject.org/spins/
You might want to go with xfce or lxqt instead; Even cinnamon would lighter weight than kde.
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SSD trim, yes or no?
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>>109913533
Yes if you want longevity. There's a small concern about metadata leakage for encrypted disks but it's very small.
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Last firmware update for my router was 3 years ago. At what point do i just reflash it with openwrt?
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>>109913543
Three years ago
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>>109913533
Always yes. Just let it TRIM once a week and your SSD will work for a much longer time.
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Do I need to manually update fstab if I add a new device to an existing btrfs filesystem? I'm not using RAID, have the new device encrypted and automatically unlocked using a keyfile in crypttab, only remaining step is adding it to btrfs.
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>>109914074
no. the uuid will remain the same, as it refers to the logical volume rather than any individual device. even if you use device-specific paths in fstab like by-path, it'll work with any member device.
the btrfs driver automatically handles assembling multi-device volumes, so you can basically handle any one of them as if they're the whole thing
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>>109914107
So all I need to do now is run device add and mount it to /, then rebalance? I'm guessing I won't have to rebuild initramfs either since I've already added the new device to crypttab and confirmed it unlocks, right?
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>>109914121
yes, add the device and run a balance. as long as you're certain the new btrfs volume is reachable by the kernel during boot then you're initramfs shouldn't need any changes either. though it's a good idea to have a livecd on the ready in case it doesn't work first try
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>>109914145
>as long as you're certain the new btrfs volume is reachable by the kernel
excuse me if that was a bit confusing, technically you're not making a new btrfs, just extending the current one, but i'm sure you knew what i meant, that is the device node of the unencrypted space the new member is stored on
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>>109914145
>>109914163
>though it's a good idea to have a livecd on the ready in case it doesn't work first try
In which case I can just restore from snapshots, right? Probably a dumb question but it's my first experience using btrfs. I did understand what you meant, yeah. I've already tested and confirmed that the new encrypted device is unlocked correctly during boot.
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>>109914179
shouldn't be anything related to snapshots, just if you make a mistake like if one of them isn't being unlocked or something
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>>109914247
What I mean is that I've already had a single device system for some time, I should be able to restore from snapshot if something goes wrong, right?
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>>109913543
As long as you are not an idiot and use "apple123" password it's not a problem.
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>>109914264
if something goes wrong with adding the device somehow, once you start the balance then you'd need to restore the volume from a proper backup rather than a btrfs snapshot, unless you're converting it into a redundant format such as raid1, in which case you can revert it without restoring from a backup, as you'd expect from raid1
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>>109912247
Where's a good place to store data files for programs running as system-wide daemons such as jellyfin, mpd, nfs/smb shares or docker containers? Not sure if /srv or /var/lib would be the right place.
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>>109913533
Do a weekly trim with the fstrim.timer service like the other anon said. But i wouldn't recommend continuous trim with the discard mount flag.
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>>109914804
Put data sets in /srv subfolders for programs/daemons like that.
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WHY do i keep getting graphics resets in dragon's dogma 2
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>>109914854
Does that also include the data/config related stuff for docker containers?
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>>109914953
Do you have an outdated distro? DD2 did that a lot when it was new
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>>109915074
/srv is a good place for Docker containers to store their data
Don't use /var/lib for that. /var/lib is supposed to be for system level daemons that are installed from the system's package manager.
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>>109914953
You shouldn't get these unless you are killing the game instead of closing it down. Could also be buggy because DD2 is a pos product.
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>>109912396
>HDR
snakeoil
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This week I swapped my gpu from amd to nvidia and for some fucking reason fonts are all kind of fucked in firefox. Some are tiny, some are squished when the size is small.
Where do I even start to find out where the problem is coming from? I know there's nothing wrong(I hope) with my fonts.conf because no gtk or qt things are affected.
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>>109912609
>DISCOVER
>Update all your programs + install system updates with one button
It does not update everything. Just system packages and flatpaks/snaps. You're thinking of topgrade or uupd, for which Discover is not a frontend.
>SPECTACLE
It would be good if it wasn't so fucking slow. Screenshots are taken around half a second after you press the shortcut key to take them. And it takes over a second for the region selection screenshot interface to pull up (sometimes taking 3-7 seconds if it's your first time opening it). This shit should be instant for fucks sake.
>DESKTOP ENVIRONMENTS
>This is basically not even a thing on Windows
It is. There are a handful of alternative desktop environments for Windows. But only one or two are still actively maintained.
>chroot
True. Working with Windows is a fucking pain compared to working with Linux.

>>109913505
>Even cinnamon would lighter weight than kde.
It really isn't. Cinnamon is a sloppy fork of very old GNOME code. It historically had multiple memory leak issues and much worse CPU/GPU overhead than GNOME and KDE.

>>109912641
>>109913467
>KDE
Disable the following:
>on-screen keyboard
>tablet mode
>file indexing / baloo
>recent files history
>animations
>blur
>shadows
>other random features your grandma won't need like shake pointer, notifications, spell check, zoom/magnifier
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>on cachyos for a year
>mainly been playing small indie games
>try to boot up marvel rivals
>pc crashes on shader loading
>try to boot up final fantasy 7 rebirth
>pc crashes on shader loading
>try to boot re4 remake
>pc crashes on shader loading
What the fuck am I supposed to do? How the fuck are these games steam deck verified? I've tried multiple combinations of launch arguments, proton versions, gpu (nvidia) settings and I never get past the shader compilation on any large game. PLEASE HELP ME
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>>109916524
>How the fuck are these games steam deck verified?
Because they work on the Steam Deck, SteamOS and AMD hardware. You're using CachyOS and nVidia. So you're on unsupported software/OS and more importantly unsupported hardware.
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Are AMD GPUs objectively better now? At least for us Linuxbros? I was fed up with AMD and "upgraded" to a 4090 back before the prices became insane, and it's been working alright, but I just know I'll start taking Ls soon. I don't game much, but I wanna get a Steam Frame, and I just now I'll start having issues.
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>>109916592
>clip board didn't work reliably with 4070
>clip board started working with 9070xt
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>>109916612
What's a clip board?
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>>109916620
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>>109916625
What's this used for? Is it actually useful? (I live under a rock)
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>>109916592
>now
They always were.

>>109916645
You don't know what a clipboard is?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clipboard_(computing)
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>>109916645
it stores your whole history of what you have copied to your clipboard. i just really likes it.
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>>109916561
>>109916524
That's not the issue here. All of these games should work perfectly.
Anon probably has a permission or some config issue, hard to say more than this.
Please stop giving advice.
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>>109916657
>>109916659
Holy fuck lmao I'm retarded.
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>>109916669
>Please stop giving advice.
No advice was given. I just stated facts.
1. nVidia is factually known to have more gaming compatibility issues than AMD.
2. CachyOS is not SteamOS. It is not fully binary compatible with it, it is not configured the same out of the box, it is not the same under the hood, it does not provide the same UX.
3. A "Deck Verified" rating is explicitly there for the Steam Deck and other official SteamOS hardware. A game being labelled as "Deck Verified" is not guaranteed to work on an arbitrary Linux distro, on arbitrary hardware.

>That's not the issue here.
You have no way of telling what the exact issue is just from that post.
>should
>probably
>hard to say
Obviously, so listen to your own words and
>Please stop giving advice.
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Thinking about switching to Fedora, as far as I understand it enable third party software doesn't actually enable all the third party software and you have to use the terminal to download the rpmfusion codecs as well? Is there anything else I'm missing? Why can't this just be an easy check box prompt?

Also how likely is shit to break with version updates? I'm used to using Mint where shit justwerks
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>switched to Devuan
>purged and apt pinned PulseAudio and Pipewire to -1
>switched out Xorg Wayland shiller server for the Xlibre free X server
Is there a way I can de-rust my kernel? Anything else I should rip out from modern Linux? I'm thinking about recompiling the kernel without SELinux entirely.
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>>109916916
>Why can't this just be an easy check box prompt
I thought it was? Either way, if you don't want to deal with this bullshit you can install Ultramarine or Aurora/Bluefin/Bazzite.
>how likely is shit to break with version updates
Unlikely.
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>>109916916
Because to legally separate it they need an actual degree of separation not just a button. You shouldn’t experience breakage beyond codecs rarely not being synced up with the normal repos. When this happens it will ask to downgrade some packages and you have to wait a day or two to update. Beyond that it’s just a fast moving Linux distro. Fedora updates the kernel and keeps backup kernels so if you get a regression you can just revert it. Full system snapshots are not configured by default and the default partition scheme doesn’t support them yet. I’ve used it since 41 or so and the worst thing I experienced was my sound drivers shitting themselves on one specific kernel update, I reverted and it was fixed in the very next update.
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Thanks dudes who recommended gpu screen recorder in the last thread. It's exactly what I was looking for.
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>>109916507
>other random features your grandma won't need like shake pointer, notifications, spell check, zoom/magnifier
i feel like a grandma would appreciate a zoom and shake pointer
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>>109917065
You'd think that, but old people aren't tech literate enough to even know how to use these features. They'd just find them confusing if they accidentally trigger them.
Computers were much simpler 20 years ago and most boomers I talk to want the simplicity of Windows 98 or XP and could barely even operate those let alone modern UIs.
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>>109917061
glad it worked out for you
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>>109916507
>It does not update everything. Just system packages and flatpaks/snaps
What doesn't it update?
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>>109916592
They're objectively more comfy. If you have a specific use case you're laser focused on min-maxing there's a good chance they're not 'the best', but on a hobby basis AMD is probably worth it anyway.
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>>109917061
The fact that one guy made that software as a hobby and the equivalent software on Windows is handled by trillion dollar companies that sometimes break it is wild.
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Guys I had dual boot with windows and Linux and just accidentally formatted my Linux boot partition, because it wasn't labeled in the windows partition manager. Please help I can't tell boot into my Linux...
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>>109918211
Boot a recovery iso and reinstall the bootloader.
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>>109914270
>implying the web console is available from the internet
>>109914804
>>109914854
Assumed there's only one filesystem, the root filesystem: /srv. Another option is somewhere under /var(/db) but idk about that.
If there's another filesystem just for the anime files: /mnt/anime
>>109917121
>They'd just find them confusing if they accidentally trigger them.
I'm one of those. How do I disable the window list thing that appears every time the mouse pointer gets to the upper left corner in KDE Plasma? What's the point of it as there's the taskbar for windows?
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>>109916592
>Are AMD GPUs objectively better now?
RDNA3 and RDNA4 especially, because it's what's used on commercial Valve hardware. Having every driver built into the Kernel is amazing, it's the most just werks thing on PCs.
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>>109918999
>RDNA3 and RDNA4
*RDNA2 (Steam Deck) and RDNA3 (Steam Machine), actually, my bad
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>>109917550
The list is pretty big. Look into what topgrade updates. Discover only updates the 3 things listed, topgrade actually updates pretty much everything.

>>109918283
>How do I disable the window list thing that appears every time the mouse pointer gets to the upper left corner in KDE Plasma?
Search for "Screen Edges". I agree with you, the default screen edge setting is fucking annoying. One of the first things I do on Plasma is disable that crap.
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Does anyone have Linux gaming PTSD after years of trying to get Linux to work occasionally?

Whenever I launch a game you preemptively hold your breath because you know it might not work and even if it works, it will crackle or have SOME sort of problem.

Never had PTSD this on windows

Linux gave me PTSD
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>>109916592
You will have issues with the Steam Frame regardless because SteamVR on Linux is still kind of alpha/beta quality at best. People have gotten it to work but YMMV.

The real advantage to the Steam Frame is its standalone. You can have full KDE Plasma with a game off to the side and a browser window off to the side and whatever else you want and that's really fucking cool.

I'm going to buy it just for that even if streaming from my Gentoo box my not workout for a while, the Frame will still be a great portable Linux machine.

I wish I had my purchase email already (am on the reservation list for the 1tb model). I'm travelling soon and it would have been so good to have it to use while waiting about in the airport, etc, don't care if I'd look stupid using it.

Unless it comes today/tomorrow and they overnight it to me though I'll have to keep waiting. Hopefully, the email doesn't come while I'm away and the three days lapse. That would suck.
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learnt about mdns this week (after having used PCs since like Netscape navigator 1.0)
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>>109919081
With native Linux games yes. With Proton I never worry about it, which is why I always use it instead. Just don't play Linux builds and you'll be fine.
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>>109912384
For me is Kubuntu 26.04.1.
After so much distrohopping and fiddling around with countless setups, Ubuntu one again comes around as the ultimate just works distro. Now I really prefer KDE to Gnome so Kubuntu is an easy win.
Such underated distro.
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>>109919166
The fact that Valve solved gaming on Linux by killing the idea of native builds is a very mixed bag of feels.
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>>109919295
Less be honest, there were never any "real" native builds anyway. Just very badly done ports.

Now that they have hardware like the Deck we are actually seeing a resurgence in native builds but this time done right. Like Baldur's Gate 3, for example, has a native Steam Deck build. That's not some shoddy port but something they actually worked on themselves.

Trust the long play Valve is making. Linux powered Steam Hardware will make native Linux gaming better in the long run.
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>>109919295
I don't have mixed feelings about it at all. Proton is the stable platform for running PC games, Linux never was. Valve just correctly realized that Linux fucking sucks for gaming unless you run games in containers, be it Windows (WINE/Proton) or Linux (Steam Linux Runtime) containers.
Almost all the "native builds" fucking sucked anyway. Performance issues, lack of forwards compatibility, video/audio bugs, a lot of them being "WINE ports", etc. The state of "native Linux gaming" was just embarrassing.
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if i were to set up a bunch of machines and wanted to netboot them from a server rather than buying storage for each of them, what kind of optimisations can i do?
all i really know is how to setup tftp/pxe and use nfs for root, but is there anything fancier that can be done to for example help alleviate loading the same data from the nfs server? for example when loading a game on multiple machines at the same time, it would be more efficient for the machines to be able to share cached data between themselves rather than having them all squeezed through the connection to the server. they'll just be gigabit which isn't exactly amazing for "local storage" by today's standards. at some point i may set up a faster/bonded connection between the server and switch, but for now i'm just curious what options people might know of that i could look into
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>>109919295
linux user space retardation gave rise to containers like proton and the linux runtimes
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>finally get steam frame
>the dongle doesn’t work on Linux
>the headset that runs Linux
>released by a company that literally just made a Linux pc
>does not support Linux out of the box

I’m genuinely fucking baffled, like…how??? How is this not just plug and play?
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>>109919411
vr is still shit on linux
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>>109919403
>it would be more efficient for the machines to be able to share cached data between themselves rather than having them all squeezed through the connection to the server
That's not really going to work when the machines have no disk. Unless you have a giant RAM disk to copy about then how are you going to share the data from machine to machine?
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>>109919295
valve didn't kill it, dxvk did. dxvk brought wine from "runs half of games (and in the years leading up to dxvk's release; no new games since wine didn't support d3d10/11 to any useful degree) up to a decent fraction of full speed maybe with some graphics glitches, unless the game supports opengl directly" to "runs most games, even new ones, with no graphical glitches and basically full speed" pretty quickly.
valve just recognised this and made proton out of the combination of wine and dxvk.

if games run as well with wine as they would native, why make native ports? just make windows games and you can reach both windows and linux users. at most you'd only need to do some testing in wine which i'm sure is less effort than testing a native port
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>>109919431
If you gave them disks though then you could use a clustered filesystem but then it's not entirely diskless anymore.
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>>109919416
I could maybe understand the dongle not working on every distro, but the fact it isn’t just plug and play on steam machines is a level of incompetence I have a hard time comprehending.
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>>109919452
don't they have a steam devices packages on most distros? i remember with the steam controller i had to wait for an update for that for the dongle to work on fedora.
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>>109919452
It's just a Realtek USB wireless NIC. It's well known they are one of the shittest companies with their Linux support.
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>>109919431
linux uses any free memory for I/O cache, so hypothetically that could be shared between machines over a network. no clue if anything has been written to do this however.
idk if there's something better, that's why i'm asking

>>109919447
maybe i could do that, i've heard of clustered filesystems but don't know how they work. if i could say, chuck cheap 128G ssd's in them and have them basically like local caches of commonly accessed data so the machines aren't regularly accessing the same data over the network, that might be a good compromise between fully-local storage (just store all the games/programs on every machine) and fully-remote storage (load everything every time over nfs)
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>>109919477
>linux uses any free memory for I/O cache, so hypothetically that could be shared between machines over a network. no clue if anything has been written to do this however.
>idk if there's something better, that's why i'm asking
I mean hypothetically it's possible but the page cache isn't just something you can share between machines. You have to read the data first and that data has got to come from somewhere…

It's not like you can just:
ssh root@other-machine cat /proc/kmem > /proc/kmem
that's going to end in tears.
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>>109919480
it's probably not designed to work like that, but you don't know what you don't know. i've seen enough to know people have made some crazy things, and i also know enough to know not to make assumptions [that it's impossible]
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>>109919480
ssh root@other-machine cat /proc/kmem > /proc/kmem
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>>109916431
My font problem suddenly fixed itself without rebooting or anything. I opened a new page and poof.
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>>109907673
Arch also shows a QR code
Now I'm curious if Arch does this also?
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>>109907673
It's just a basic HTML viewer that shows the contents of the crash dump. They're not uploading anything.

I found this confusing the first time I understood how it worked too. Because they're using URL fragments (everything after the '#' in the URL) their web server doesn't see the contents in the URL. The only thing Debian sees is that you made you a request to https://kernel-team.pages.debian.net/panic_report/

Everything after the '#' they can't see (it's visible only to your browser).
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>>109919432
>runs half of games
I don't even think it was that much. At least not out of the box and without any issues. Most games played through WINE back in 2005-2015 were either fully borked or barely playable.
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Why does MUSL LibC still return 0x000000 as a hostid? Isn't this a huge problem in server environments?
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>>109907673
the size of the qr code/length of the url would suggest to me like the qr code encodes the last bit of the kernel log into the qr code, rather than actually uploading anything

>>109919821
eh, i can't only go off my own experience at the time and i didn't play a massive amount of games. i've used wine since about 2006, though back then i hadn't fully switched from windows. i remember when gallium nine came out which improved things a lot, but also remember when games started becoming d3d11-only, which was just a no-go on linux entirely, i remember an attempt at adding d3d11 support to wine at one point but that didn't seem to go anywhere.
if you were only counting recent games then the few years prior to dxvk it was less than 50% for sure. huge contrast to now where i simply expect new games to work perfectly from day 1, didn't think i'd see the day.
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>>109919835
If it were a problem you wouldn't see so many Musl libc Docker containers

They sometimes do things differently to Glibc but it's not an issue for most portable software.
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>>109919843
ZFS needs hostid, as one example.
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>>109919845
Alpine has ZFS available so clearly it's not that much of an issue:
https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/ZFS

It don't know if they have to patch it at all but they don't mention any caveats, etc.
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>>109919855
Interesting. I stumbled upon this 0x00000 hostid as I setup LUKS+ZFS root pool on gentoo. It's a non-issue as long you don't have 2 MUSL machines mounting the same pool.
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>>109907673
>>109919776

This >>109919801
They're likely using a locally-loaded script to read the hash, parse and unpack it, and format it into a more readable (and bug-reportable) fashion.
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>>109916160
Stop buying garbage budget TVs on clearance.
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>>109919874
He's right though, HDR can't display correct colour since basically everything is produced in sRGB
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>>109919883
That's what tonemapping is for.
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Whats a good distro for newfags like me? Main uses are browsing & gaming pretty much
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>>109919855
This alpine article recommends setting ZFS native encryption on. That is not recommended by the actual ZFS devs on linux anymore. Seems pretty outdated.
It would be amazing if I could use ZFS native encryption on linux, but I won't dare to do that.
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>>109919894
If you don't want to learn too much to use Linux properly straight away then use a distro like Bazzite. Very similar in spirit to SteamOS.
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>>109919896
Correction to myself. Interesting, seems someone has fixed that nasty bug last year everyone talked about.
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>>109919894
Universal blue
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>>109919883
...what actually are you talking about? It's HDR. HDR can encode every color that SDR can encode, much like how a yardstick can measure every length a footstick can measure, or a Gallon jug can store any amount of liquid an 8oz glass can.
If your display can't display SDR content properly when your OS is outputting HDR, either your OS is shit (Windows and its incorrect piecewise gamma curve) and/or your display is shit (most bargain-bin Smart TVs and their HDR """support""").
I'm literally looking at identical colors right now on my screens viewing SDR content, one of which is HDR and one of which is SDR.
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>>109919910
This means it is safe to use native ZFS encryption on linux so I can finally ditch LUKS and Grub and switch to natively encrypted root pool and boot into that via ZFSBootMenu. Very very nice.
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i think it would be cool to run linux off of a switch 2.
i was reading that it can be done on original, early launch switch 1's.
the idea of a very low power draw portable linux is cool and you already have a in-built mouse in this instance.
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>>109919887
>>109919924
They CAN, but it needs extensive software support for colour management and colorimeter calibration. Not all software has colour management support so the colour will look off in those apps.
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>>109919933
Even if you just use an ICC profile calibrated by a tech reviewer it will look 90% okay to the extent that the untrained eye won't be able to even notice since the panels are similar enough and run-to-run variance between the different batches is not that much of an issue

So yes, you may not have the thousands of dollars worth of equipment to calibrate it properly yourself but you don't need to since others have already done that work.
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>>109919411
>released on September 18, 2026
Based on that you'd need a very new kernel at least.
And oh, what is a VR set anyway, from the OS' perspective I mean? Is it a collection of a display, audio and some HID devices or what?
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Thinkpad t-series in 2026, still good for everyday average Joe usage?
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>>109919928
sounds interesting. but do the drivers for it exist? the switch has a modded cpu and gpu iirc that are partially off the shelf but also at the same time different from the shelf stuff... or something like that.
the memory as is console tradition, is shared iirc, and is fairly low at that. 4 GB, soldered so you're out of luck if you want to upgrade. i suppose you could put swap on the microsd on it...?
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>>109919928
>the idea of a very low power draw
The switch (and 2) aren't very efficient, they are at the level of a older smartphone at their release. They are also not low power, tuned for higher power draw than a phone/small tablet.

Linux ports also aren't efficient by default. All in all this isn't like what you imagine. And there's many alternatives if you want to get into small linux portable PCs, like uconsole
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>>109919933
>but it needs extensive software support for colour management
>Not all software has colour management support so the colour will look off in those apps
No, it it doesn't have color management, it's easily assumed to be sRGB. For both SDR output and HDR output. Regardless of whether that's a correct assumption, the results through both an SDR composite to an SDR display and a proper HDR composite to a proper HDR display will be identical.
(if you really want to be technical, there might be imperceptibly slight differences in shade since the finite gradations of sRGB and it's G2.2 curve and the finite gradations of Rec.2100-PQ and its PQ curve do not line up 1-to-1).
>and colorimeter calibration
Which again applies both to SDR displays and HDR displays.

Again, if SDR content on an HDR display looks noticeably off from the same content on an SDR display, it's a problem with the display.
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>>109918211
>Linux boot partition
You should only be having one boot partition, even with windows.
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>>109920000
This is only possible if you manually size the EFI partition before Windows gets a chance to setup its 50MB version during installation. I've done this, but for most people with an existing Windows install, they likely need an additional boot partition to fit the bootloader.
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>>109920069
You can actually delete the EFI partition, create a new one with the same UUID, and windows will boot just fine. It's what the arch wiki recommends doing.
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>>109920116
Wouldn't it fail to boot after you deleted its bootloader..?
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>>109920260
No, as long as the contents are still the same. There's nothing special about the EFI System Partition, it's just an ordinary FAT32 Partition with a flag that says "I'm an ESP. You can boot from me"
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>>109920266
>>109920260
By that, I mean you should copy the old files over first, yes. Don't just delete it without backing up the files.
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>>109920116
You can create the EFI manually before installing windows, either in linux or in the windows installer through the cmd prompt (shift+f10 opens it?) using diskpart. Windows will automatically use it if it finds it.
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thats what i did the last time i installed windows
i created the EFI manually with 1 GB of space, then let windows create the rest of partitions
the arch wiki even has instructions to create the partition from the windows install media
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>>109920273
Was about to insult you hard. Last minute fix.
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Interesting.
https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-X1-Carbon-G14-MIPI-Cam

I would guess this monochrome camera for "Windows Hello" is for face unlock on Windows?
Do we have anything like that on Linux I wonder? Closest I can think of is fprint but that's for fingerprint unlock, not face unlock.
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>>109919080
>The list is pretty big
Give me one example
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Im using kubuntu
Sound (only left channel) coming from the 3.5mm jack stopped working, I tested the headphones on other devices and they work fine. Asked google and it said check audio balance, check alsamixer, cleared wireplimber directory, restarted pipewire pipewire pulse, wireplumber, that did not help, rebooted multiple times, that also didn't help. Booted live usb to another distro, tested the sound, both channels worked properly, rebooted back into kubuntu, both channels now suddenly working again!
Wtf is happening??
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>>109920686
>ubuntu
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>>109920686
just krashde things
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>>109920823
Sound is nothing to do with KDE (or any desktop for that matter)
>>109920686
Restart PipeWire and Wireplumber or install the backports repo and update it from the outdated crap Ubuntu ships
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>>109919839
>if you were only counting recent games then the few years prior to dxvk it was less than 50% for sure.
I'm looking at it from the perspective of a person who switched to Linux in 2012 and mostly played games released between 1998-2008. And I'm also only counting games which had no WINE/Linux-specific bugs or performance issues and didn't require manual tinkering to get them to work.

The Linux/WINE/Proton game compatibility for my personal game library went like this:
>WINE 1.x - around 30% of games are playable without issues, 20% are playable with some issues or require manual tinkering
>WINE 4.0 - around 50% of games are playable without issues, 25% are playable with some issues or require manual tinkering
>Proton 7.0 - around 70% of games are playable without issues, 25% are playable with some issues or require manual tinkering
>Proton 10.0 - around 95% of games are playable without issues, 5% are playable with some issues or require manual tinkering
Keeping in mind that my game library was evolving over time. Around the time of Proton 9 I already felt like new titles work perfectly fine on release so I actually started getting games which only had Windows builds. Comparing this to the era of WINE 1.x-5.0 when I was only getting new games which had an official Linux build since WINE was a hit-or-miss.
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>>109920980
From my experience the first big jump in game compativility was when they added DX9 support to wine (in wine 2.0 or so I think)
Then you could reasonable expect DX9 games to work, older games were still hit or miss, and newer games did not work (unless you could trick them to fall back to DX9)
The next big jump was dxvk, finally making DX11 reasonably work, and rising compatibility levels to you'd expect the game to work. Good times.
From there, it got even better oder time. I wonder if it will go down again in the future due to devs keeping adding stupid anti-cheat stuff to their games.
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>>109920980
i started using wine well before 1.0, and it was exciting just to be able to run anything. i mean running programs for a totally different os that doesn't even involve a vm/hardware emulator to run the original os inside of? crazy.
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>>109920619
Happy Bday
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>>109912247
how do i use lxqt's file picker instead of the gtk one? i'm using a window manager
>install xdg-desktop-portal-lxqt
>create a local portals.conf file with:
[preferred]
default=gtk
org.freedesktop.impl.portal.FileChooser=lxqt

>reboot
>shit still doesn't work

both chromium and firefox still default to the gtk picker. i tried removing the "default=gtk" line but still didn't work. i also tried changing "widget.use-xdg-desktop-portal.file-picker" in about:config on firefox, still nothing.
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>>109922331
isn't it this? >>109497607
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>>109919894
Linux mint
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need to pick up a new monitor for linux use:
100% scaling at 1080p 27″
or
200% scaling at 1440p 27″
what do you guys think?
I have no problem with shit looking big but my eyes are too old for the opposite
thanks
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>>109919843
A lot of docker containers don't use musl due to performance loss.
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>>109922331
are you on gentoo? you might need to put
/usr/libexec/xdg-desktop-portal-lxqt -r &
on startup. I can't remember how I fixed it desu... it seemed to just work one day.
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>>109920069
If you use GRUB as your bootloader then it wont require much space on the efi partition and /boot can be kept as part of your / partition
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>>109923248
You could achieve this with a few bootloaders I'm sure, but it won't work if your / is encrypted.
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>>109923253
GRUB supports proper luks2 encrypted /boot now
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>>109923281
cool, but still not going back to it
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>>109923309
Nobody's telling you to?
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>>109923227
Anything other than 100% scaling is a meme. Anything above 1080p (or 1200p) is a meme.
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>>109918255
>>109920000
>>109920116
Guys please help. I managed to create a bootable ISO on USB and I can at least see that I have all my files. Just have to rebuild the boot partition somehow. I found an fstab file with some UUIDs. What do I do now...
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>>109923281
Interesting. That's pretty useful if you have a lot of boot images I suppose, but I'll stick with Limine and systemd-boot personally.
Hopefully that feature eventually makes its way into Limine, I don't see why it couldn't.
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>>109923403
What about HDR and VRR?
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>>109923433
nta but
>HDR
doesn't exist
>VRR
cool
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>>109923414
Boot the live usb.
Mount your linux partition somewhere like /mnt
Find your current efi boot partition the one windows uses and mount that to /mnt/boot/efi or /mnt/efi whatever you prefer
chroot into your system at /mnt
install grub, then update the grub config
and add an entry to /etc/fstab for the efi partition
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>>109923431
Didnt limine drop filesystem support for everything except fat32? They seem to want to keep their bootloader simple like systemd-boot.
The GRUB thing is mainly useful for booting btrfs snapshots.
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>>109923470
Oh no I don't understand anything...
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>>109923433
>better colors
>removal of tearing and jittering
They are obviously not memes, but they are not strictly necessary.

The reason everything above 1920x1080/1920x1200 is a meme is because content is not made for any larger resolution. So it ends up being a waste of compute power and memory for zero benefit. And if you're not increasing the surface area then you need to utilize scaling, which just means you're still using a lower resolution (effectively). Using a 1440p display with 2x scaling is basically the same as using a 720p display with 1x scaling. At that point might as well get a 720p display instead. Which is why your 2nd option >>109923227 makes no sense, you'd want 150% scaling on that 1440p screen to make it behave like a 1080p screen. But then again, you shouldn't want that in the first place. Display scaling is just a sign that you're using a bad display resolution or display size. So the correct choice there is to use a 1080p display.
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>>109923470
>>109923514
The 200 GB unallocated is what I formatted that broke my Limine bootloader, but wouldn't nvme0n1p5 be my old boot partition somehow? It's fat32, 4GB, and labeled as boot, esp. I can't tell, because then I'm not sure what was formatted in the unallocated space to break it, if it's still intact. I guess nvme0n1p1 is my windows bootloader. Oh god it's so over I'm so confused...
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>>109923595
Is the /boot folder empty ?
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>>109923636
The boot folder of my Linux partition? Yes, this is my Linux partition, and the boot folder is empty. The partition is on the same 1TB drive where my windows is, and that's where I formatted the separate 200gb partition, which was just used for file storage. I have no idea how my bootloader got fucked up from formatting that and how my boot folder got emptied out, if it's on a different partition, albeit being on the same drive.
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Doesn't the UUID in the fstab file confirm that my boot partition is actually nvme0n1p5, and that I have to somehow fix my boot folder and link it with that partition instead of creating a new one?
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>>109923801
You got two, I assume your whatever installer created the other one, the p5.
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>>109923927
Ok so I'm following this AI thing to rebuild it. I specify my /root on the p4, since that's what the fstab says. It mounds the additional partitions I guess, then I'm not sure how to proceed. I suppose I don't need to mount additional partitions, although I also don't understand how to specify my mount points as it tells me to do. Trying to be extra careful in case I end up fucking it up beyond repair.
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>>109923493
It would seem so.
His point is valid that it's not a security concern to not support LUKS, the only benefit would be the increased space for images. But you can probably survive with a 4G space for quite some time.
I do wonder what's going to happen when computing graduates beyond the limits of fat32, hopefully motherboards pick a not shit filesystem next time.
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>>109923709
It is expected it will be empty if you haven't mounted the boot partition to it. Not that I'd expect it to be full if you've wiped it, I'm just saying anything you put in there may not actually be going onto the partition itself.

>>109923801
This would indicate that it is indeed not mounted.

This looks like a CachyOS install? Did you use the defaults?
Do the following. Unmount all the currently mounted partitions, reboot if you don't know how.
Do NOT browse to them or mount them manually.
Run `sudo cachy-chroot`
Follow the prompts, make sure to mount the boot partition when offered if it doesn't auto mount it from the fstab.
Confirm that /boot is mounted within the chroot by doing an `lsblk -f`
If everything is mounted properly, simply run `limine-install`, this should populate /boot with the bootloader.

>>109923959
This looks like it mentions some of what I just typed out, I'm not reading it, compare the information.
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WE'RE BACK LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOO

Any advice so this doesn't happen again? Do I want to instead start using btrfs for snapshots or something?
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>>109923959
Ok I should have just taken the time to look at your image, it appears the chroot has mounted correctly, confirm you're good to go then run `limine-install` like I said.
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>>109924063
Snapshots won't save you, you wouldn't be able to boot to use them. Just don't wipe the partition? Why did it get wiped in the first place.
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>>109924070
Well I got anxious and just typed in the pacman -Syu linux-cachyos linux-cachyos-headers command and I suppose that did kind of what you posted now, since I have Limine how and was able to boot.
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>>109924098
There's a trigger when a kernel is installed to generate the entry for it and copy the appropriate files across. However I'm surprised the bootloader itself was installed by it. But if it works it works.
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turned on secure boot and my broadcom drivers stopped working, am i doomed?
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>>109924079
I wiped a 200 GB windows partition I was using for storage so I can use it on my Linux instead and slowly start fully transitioning. I was gonna leave a small portion for windows just in case I ever need it. I have no idea how my Linux boot folder got formatted. Like the boot folder is on a separate drive that didn't get touched, regardless if it's on the same SSD. The boot partition also wasn't touched. I literally have no idea how that happened. I just wanted to format these windows 200 GB from NTFS to ext4 or btrfs.
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>>109923229
Performance loss is overblown. I've yet to see a genuine case where it matters. Meanwhile Musl libc lets you statically compile properly which is literally impossible with Glibc. Even if you somehow succeed by a miracle it won't work without supporting libraries like the NSS crap they use for name resolution anyway.
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>>109924113
Did you enroll secure boot yourself? Did you enroll microsoft keys? Because that might help. Potentially also the firmware built-in keys.
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>>109924175
dont even know what any of that means
i just turned off secure boot, installed mint, installed broadcom adapters and it was working fine.
then today i turned secure boot back on and now my broadcom adapter doesnt show up anymore, turned it off and it does again.
is secure boot even worth it?
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>>109924218
>is secure boot even worth it?
Only in two cases.
You care about the boot chain being authentic and untampered (which is also only useful if you encrypt your system).
You dual boot Windows which needs secure boot for whatever reason and it's a headache to turn it on and off all the time.
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>>109924224
i dont encrypt anything and my windows 10 partition was working fine without secure boot
guess i'll just gotta leave it off
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Well I did manage to setup this successfully in a VM. Many small pitfalls I hit along the way.
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>>109924333
One pitfall was that ZFSBootMenu wants initramfs+kernel images in /boot inside the encrypted root zpool, so don't create a separate /boot...
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I love my Cachy so much bros.
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>>109924369
I never thought I'd cheat on Arch, but Cachy is her younger, hotter sister. She needs less maintenance too.
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>>109924333
It also seems to list root snapshots but now I am unsure if I should've partitioned it differently. Restoring this doesn't restore /var because /var is in different zfs subvol in my setup. So I guess I want to include /var in root?
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>>109924582
It seems like I indeed should, looking at how FreeBSD does it and thinking how gentoo works. So /var should only be a ZFS container, not a subvol and only specific paths under it should be actual subvols.
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>>109924582
You may want to exclude cache files and VM images if you include /var in snapshots.
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>>109924506
But Cachy is Arch?
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>>109924878
That's why it's the younger sister, related of course.
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Any Bash pros here? I've been into a rabbit hole a bit, and can't find an answer. My question is about pattern matching (i.e. globs). Can they be combined dynamically? The only technique I am aware of is to have to type them all out manually when they should be used repeatedly. Because of Bash's order of operations on expansions/substitutions, I know that patterns can be saved in some situations:
easy_glob='prefix*'
hard_glob='pre" "fix*'
$easy_glob # works when expanded in an appropriate context
$hard_glob # doesn't work, expands to a literal 'pre" "fix*'


I'd like to be able to save a complex pattern for the middle of a filename, which could contain spaces, parentheses, quotes, etc. And that way, I can recombine it into new patterns later on, something analogous to:
for f in "${prefix_4}${complex_glob}${suffix_2}"


Is such a thing possible?
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>>109925587
Yes, the trick is neutralizing IFS so the concatenated pattern doesn't get word-split before globbing runs. Quoting suppresses globbing entirely, so you can't use "${a}${b}${c}"; instead do it unquoted with IFS cleared:

prefix='pre'
complex_glob='fix (2024)*' # spaces, parens, whatever
suffix='.log'

(
IFS=
for f in ${prefix}${complex_glob}${suffix}; do
[[ -e $f ]] || continue # skip literal fallback on no match
echo "$f"
done
)

The parens make it a subshell so IFS= doesn't leak out.
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>>109926191
Thank you SO much. I knew that word splitting was the only phase between variable expansion and glob/filename expansion, but all I could think to get around it was to find some abstruse method of quoting. Clearing IFS is a very smooth solution.

And you're right about the quoted expansions in my usage example being wrong. I typed them out of habit and didn't notice until I submitted the post, like an idiot.
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>>109924333
>>109924341
>VM
Could consider picrel.
>>109923959
I can only assume things here. The 100MB EFI system partition was created by the Windows installer. And you can't use it because it's too small right? The p5 partition is what you want to use for your Linux system's /boot, Linux doesn't even need to know about the 100MB one. There's nothing to "correct" there as having two EFI system partitions is just fine.
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>Claude uncovered the subliminal sissy hypno algorithm that was smuggled into ALSA
it's over
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>>109919968

T-series is kind of high tier like house cats and trannysocks
Joe Cool migh have Acer consumer or E / L
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>>109925587

' ' loose
" " hard
* wildcard
# number
## lots of numbers
? character
?? lots of characters

wikipedia has this
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>>109923403
>Anything above 1080p (or 1200p) is a meme
I have a 96 DPI 1440p monitor. It helps a lot with video editing and spreadsheets.
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bazzite babby here
do I just install rpms to one distrobox? or is there a more hygienic way of doing this I've not been made aware of?
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>>109912480
backport in debian means a package coming from other debian version
kernel modules simply mean modularity, embedded modules mean no modularity (can't detach or reattach while running)
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>>109927374
>atomic distro
you normally use flatpak there
rpms are secondary choice
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>>109912480
In general computer speak, backporting is just getting some code from a newer program and adding it into an older program. Somebody for instance might make a mod that backports the AI behaviours from Call of Video Game 10 into Call of Video Game 4.

"Debian Backports" are pretty erroneously named though, because Debian already backports security improvements into their stable repo. Nevertheless, the so-called "Debian Backports" are basically an optional repository where you can get rolling versions of certain packages: I like to get my kernel, mesa, yt-dlp and QBittorrent from Debian Backports.
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>>109927445
when flatpaks aren't an option, how many distroboxes should I have?
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>>109927622
I don't use Bazzite but this sounds like a massive pain in the ass.
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>>109927631
I appreciate the help either way. I don't really understand much about flatpaks either, would I be able to make a flatpak from an rpm? From reading around here over the years I've noticed people kinda look down on them so I figured distroboxes were the way to go.
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>>109927622
if you're talking about merging rpms into your bazzite, then you use rpm-ostree layering feature
distrobox is for running other distros inside bazzite as far as I understand it, I could be wrong
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>>109927640
I think Bazzite is too complicated for what you want it to do. I'd just use a non-immutable distro.
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>>109927640
Fedora has their own Flatpak repository that basically makes Flatpaks from RPMs via some build automation.
It works but is in general a bad idea to do that since many apps aren't built to run in a Flatpak environment properly like that and it can cause issues (Fedora at one point had a very badly packaged OBS Studio Flatpak).

In general, use Flatpak if it's packaged on Flathub and that package works properly and satisfied your needs, otherwise distrobox works fine.

How many distroboxes you have is up to you. You could have one per app if you wanted to. If you know how to build Docker containers then you can even build custom images for each app (I have a Dockerfile that builds Firefox from a Gentoo stage3 that I run in distrobox. This is nice because it builds on my desktop, push to my private registry, laptop just pulls the image and tears down the distrobox and creates it again. But this is kind of an advanced thing)
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>>109912609
Pacman
Coming from windows, pacman was just fantastic.
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>>109912643
>Windows can do those too but they're of lower quality
Out of the box sure, but ShareX mogs both Windows Snip and Spectacle. It's not even close.
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>>109927191
Good. I already wear high-socks anyway.
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>>109927374
What are you trying to do? If it's tools you'd be using daily/weekly then I'd install them on homebrew like macfags do, it's even preinstalled on Bazzite. Distrobox is more like the last option when you've tried everything, or if you need something like a dev environment.
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>>109924137
>my Linux boot folder got formatted. Like the boot folder is on a separate drive that didn't get touched, regardless if it's on the same SSD. The boot partition also wasn't touched. I literally have no idea how that happened.
In dual boot setups existing ESPs will usually get reused/merged in some way, in which case they're not logically separate, regardless of which disk they reside on. One way to avoid this mess is to keep the ESPs entirely separate by physically unplugging the other drive during OS installation or during bootloader recovery.
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I broke my Arch Linux after 5 months due to user error. Im glad I always have a backup but god damn always make sure you choose a username you don't plan on changing. I did not think my old username would be hard coded into obscure .cache and .config files even after I re-chown'd it. Part of me is thinking of going back to Arch as everything else sucks and part of me is thinking trying CachyOS. Would my Legion 5 15ARH05 benefit from whatever tweaks CachyOS offers?
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>>109924253
if you don't know why you'd need it, you don't need it.

only reason 99% of windows consumers use it is because their kids games' anti-cheat demands it. it's one part of attestation chain you can do to ensure the system is running in a known state backed up by cryptography. can be very useful in more secure environments like on company machines to ensure employees or attackers don't mess with the system offline, but on a personal home computers only you use it's really pretty meaningless.
>but then why does anti-cheats use it
because you don't own a windows system booted with secure boot, microsoft does. it's to protect windows from it's own user.
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>>109927622
The point of distrobox is similar to the point of docker containers. Each container exists to be an isolated, stable and easily reproducible environment which runs exactly the thing you set it up to run. For example you'd have distroboxes like this:
>one for davinci resolve
>one as a build and/or dev environment for a 3rd party project
>one for easy-diffusion
>one for your personal project
>one for another personal project
>one for some random CLI tool that is available in another distros' repo
>one for some random game (or games) that no longer works in modern distros due to dependency mismatch
>etc.
There's nothing stopping you from installing a bunch of different things into a single distrobox distro. But that is sometimes not possible and increases the risk of dependency hell (which is exactly what distrobox, flatpak, appimage, snap, etc. are solving).

From your comments I don't think distrobox is what you're looking for. You're installing an rpm package. You can install it natively with the rpm-ostree command, which is the atomic alternative to dnf. Run "rpm-ostree install path/to/your/package.rpm" and reboot your PC.
Distrobox is only for use-cases where you actually care if the application you're installing is "polluting" your host OS with unnecessary dependencies.

You should prioritize installing software like this:
>Flatpak (for GUI)
>Appimage (for GUI)
>homebrew (for CLI)
>rpm package installed with rpm-ostree (for CLI or GUI)
>distrobox (for CLI, GUI, build environments, or clean environments)

>>109927631
He's just overcomplicating things for no reason. Installing an rpm package is as simple as it is in Fedora.

>>109927640
Linux is an OS used by a ton of fanatics each in their own specific niche of fanaticism. The people who hate flatpaks are a small, shrinking minority. If you were here 5-10 years ago you'd see the same hate against systemd and wayland, which are now standards used by every normal desktop distro.
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>>109919307
Not as much badly as done with opengl, which was lacking.
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>>109928118
Depends on the CPU. Which x86 versions it supports?
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do qemu updates break stuff often?
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>>109929167
Not unless they change all the command line arguments again. That's one of the reasons the XML crap libvirt does exists so they can abstract the command line arguments and always do the right thing regardless.
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>>109929167
how? do you use some programs that depend on qemu of something?
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>>109912609
chroot and related recovery tools like being able to tell your package manager to operate on an alternate root makes it damn near impossible to actually break an installation. short of wiping your root entirely it's always fixable. most wouldn't believe what i've managed to recover from
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>>109926819
VM while I'm testing but this is intended to apply to my laptop and desktop. So I don't want to use VM-only shortcuts.
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>>109912247
do you remap your capslock? I am trying to use tmux more but the default meta key combo is a pain to use so I was thinking of moving it to capslock instead
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>>109928118
wiping ~/.cache would be a good idea after changing your username (as the name suggests anything in there is safe to remove as it's just caches). grep'ing through ~/.config is a good idea as well but yea, i'm not surprised.

>>109929167
only kind of breakage i've seen using qemu is when they remove old machine definitions. like a couple times i've had to update;
    <type arch="x86_64" machine="pc-q35-5.0">hvm</type>

namely the "q35-5.0" version in my libvirt vm's, though i don't recall having to change anything else, it's not impossible other options may need to be adjusted at some point in the future
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>>109928118
The need to change a username aside... why wouldn't you just create an entirely new user at that point and switch to it? Renaming an existing instance and hoping it would take care of all references, is clearly asking for trouble.
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>>109929369
Oh. But even so, testing how an initramfs behaves works the same, you'd be building it from the host system instead of doing it in the VM itself.
>>109928118
>always make sure you choose a username you don't plan on changing
Never occurred to me, I've tried not to change my $HOME location.
>>109927392
>kernel modules simply mean modularity, embedded modules mean no modularity (can't detach or reattach while running)
Yes I know. For example I run a RAID and it uses a module called "raid456". Any reason to not embed that module as I'm always using the RAID regardless? (rootfs isn't in the RAID so it's not essential for booting)
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>>109924113
You probably forgot to "sign" the drivers with your signing key.
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I'm trying to figure out how to expand the storage on my desktop in the easiest way. I have currently a 1TB SSD with LVM on LUKS. I have a 4TB HDD with LUKS but just formatted in ext4 which I let KDE mount for me and encrypt after I booted. There is about 150GB remaining on my SSD, and 90% of the HDD. I need more room for games and I don't want to install them on the HDD. I have a 2TB ssd I could install.

I am thinking just encrypt it with LUKS and let KDE handle mounting it like the HDD, format it in ext4. I don't need any of the features of LVM. Then I will just move my steam library to it. freeing up space on my main drive.

Just doing a sanity check.
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>>109930442
You can mount the ext4 SSD as btrfs, and have the 2TB SSD expand storage with btrfs.
So you would just get 2TB more storage on your main disk basically.
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>>109924582
Jesus christ I just tested root rollback from ZFSBootMenu and it just works. It instantly rolls it back and then you can boot the root normally. One button, one confirmation, DONE.
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>>109929388
I swap capslock and control.
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>>109929388
No, you should swap escape and capslock instead. Via kernel rules.
Swapping esc and caps will help your ergonomics universally regardless of what you are doing.
Tmux or Screen, you could use tilde or something else.
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>>109930831
I use keyd to swap esc and capslock while making it so that pressing capslock long enough will count as ctrl instead of esc
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>>109929411
If you change it to just 'pc-q35' and save it will auto fill in the current version. Doesn't stop manual intervention impossible, but it's a bit nicer to do.
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>>109928401
>Distrobox is only for use-cases where you actually care if the application you're installing is "polluting" your host OS with unnecessary dependencies.
Thanks that helps a lot
>You should prioritize installing software like this:
I had a feeling it looked something like that. I was trying to get a terminal earlier and ran into someone claiming it was better to toss it into a container and I guess I got confused.
>If you were here 5-10 years ago
To be fair, some of what I know about flatpak might be from posts in that age range. I've lurked a while absorbing (bad?) knowledge here and there, but never really given Linux much of a fair shake. Thanks again for the help.
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is there any way to make qbitttorrent not save the last folder you downloaded a torrent too, i like sorting my music in folders by artist and it's kinda annoying to go into the config folder and removing those folders from it.
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>>109928401
>The people who hate flatpaks are a small, shrinking minority. If you were here 5-10 years ago you'd see the same hate against systemd and wayland, which are now standards used by every normal desktop distro.
I disagree that they are a small minority, I think it's quite a significant amount of people.
Flatpaks are not like systemd and wayland, the former is a much more advanced init system that has simplified and unified a lot of tasks, the latter is literally the only compositor that has been worked upon for the last decade.
Flatpaks do not do anything native methods cannot do, and come with all sorts of permission headaches and dependency bloat. They also have issues where some libraries (like gpu drivers, nvidia only maybe) break when the system updates them, unless flatpak is told to update itself (could be hooked I suppose).
The only reason they have any traction is so that users using distros that have intentionally old packages can get around their choice of distro and have packages that are in fact, not old. If those distros offered the latest releases of those packages, even as an optional alternative, flatpak's use cases would shrink drastically.
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>>109931230
All three things systemd, wayland, and flatpaks all have different complaints and issues and grouping them up together as being the same thing is really dumb and naive
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>>109930678
Yeah it's fuckin' neato. You can also zfs send/recv the snapshots for remote backups.
If you want to get really autistic, you can give ZFS your raw disks without creating a partition table. That way you can have full disk snapshots and backups with native ZFS encryption.
>but what about the ESP, doesn't that require ext4?
I use portable ZBM which has its own ESP. That way you never need to fuck with EFI entries either (which have a habit of disappearing), you just put ZBM in the default path and tell your mobo to boot from USB. You can also boot an unlimited number of ZFS-root systems that way, no individual bootloaders needed on any of them.
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What is the command line for opening a file in a specific program? I want to make a desktop shortcut to open an .exe file in wine.
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>>109931448
you just prepend the file with the program name, like;
wine /path/to/program.exe
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>>109931476
Thanks, man! Is there some kind of a website of "dictionary" for all or al least most of these useful commands to do stuff on linux? Some pdf or whatever would be incredibly nice. I've never been that good with computers and when I switched to linux things have been sometimes a bit difficult, yet rewarding when something finally works
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>>109931557
the terms for these kinds of lists is called "cheat sheet", you can find tons of them
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>>109931448
xdg-open
which should automatically open any .exe with wine
if you have the systemd-binfmt service enabled and running it should automatically run the exe with wine if you invoke it directly
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>>109931622
he said "specific program", xdg-open opens files with the default program (according to ~/.config/mimeapps.list or what is provided in ~/.local/share/applications and /usr/share/applications .desktop files)
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>>109923241
Arch, but yeah that was it. Now I need to make the window use my gtk theme, because by default the picker uses light mode and shows no icons at all.
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>>109931690
qt5ct or qt6ct should have an option to use the gtk theme for qt.
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>great touchpad gestures
>smooth and responsive animations
>adwaita actually looks nice by default
GNOME is actually good
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>>109931969
https://woltman.com/gnome-bad/

Irredeemable desktop. I honestly want it discontinued so money can go toward actually useful projects.
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>>109912247
i use gentoo btw, should i update my kernel to 7.2.8?
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Omarchy on a Framework 13 Pro is incredibly comfy. This is the "Linux MBP" I have wanted for over a decade.
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>>109932334
Shilling doesn't work here, he should stop paying you.
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Today marks my one year anniversary with GNU/Linux.
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So if I am understanding this right Fedora has literally no snapshot utility by default? And the best alternative is to install btrfs assistant? Will this actually work or should I just choose another distro with sane defaults?
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>>109932910
I give you 2 more weeks max on Linux
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>>109933072
I've been using mint for 2 years which gives you timeshift by default and lets you set it up with 1 click :^)
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>>109933080
Cool, why don't you do that then?
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>>109933092
Curiosity tbdesu
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>>109931230
>I think it's quite a significant amount of people.
It obviously isn't as soon as you step outside of the tinkertranny social bubbles.
Almost all Fedora users use at least a single Flatpak app. Flatpaks are very popular among Mint and Zorin users too. All "gamers" use Flatpaks because of SteamOS, Bazzite, Nobara. Snaps are also much more popular than anti-Snap people would lead you to believe. For example, a third of Ubuntu users use the Snap version of Steam.
The "native" package purists are a small minority of Linux users. Most people genuinely don't care and will use whatever gets installed by default.
>Flatpaks do not do anything native methods cannot do
Yet I don't see "native" methods do anything Flatpak does by default, while opting into Flatpak features is much more convoluted than simply using Flatpak.
>The only reason they have any traction is so that users using distros that have intentionally old packages
I wouldn't say that's the only reason. Flatpaks solve the issue of software distribution in Linux. Non-system apps should be given to you by the developer, not by the distro package maintainer middleman.
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>>109931557
>never been that good with computers
>switched to linux
You have a steep uphill ahead of you, but your attitude is good. I'm not sure what Linux introduction books are out there that are recent and useful, so I can't recommend any. But you can usually find basic tutorials for most things you'd want to learn. This one is rudimentary but at least seems to touch on most things:
https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/linux-unix/linux-tutorial/

Also, if you haven't already, check out the commands listed at the top of the thread. For example, if you have some tool installed like "grep" (searches for text in files) and aren't sure how to use it, you can usually type `man grep` to open the manual pages for that tool. There are also man pages for other things too, for example, if you want to know how to use the hosts file works (in /etc/hosts) you can also type `man hosts`.

I imagine you are using bash as your shell (the program that you're interacting with when you're typing into a "terminal" window), but you can double check this by using the command
echo $SHELL
and making sure that it says back "/bin/bash". Other shells exist, but most of the time you see basic *nix-style commands and short scripts passed around, that's the dialect being used. The documentation on bash is not the best, but it's not bad, and there are many tutorials. Once you get the essential commands down, it's a smooth curve to learning how to string commands into simple scripts that you can save and run on command, and then adding simple conditional logic and string/text modification, etc.
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transmission-gtk keeps crashing on alpine linux if I have notifications on. Is there any specific package I have to install or any specific configuration I have to set to fix this?
I don't actually need notifications to work in transmission, but would be nice to figure out what is going on.
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>>109933560
strace -o /tmp/bloat transmission-gtk
then read /tmp/bloat
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What file manager do you guys use? I use Dolphin on my Cachy. Wondering if there's anything else worth trying.
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>>109932215
Linux enceladus 7.2.8-gentoo #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Sep 26 01:21:31 CEST 2026 x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-14900KF GenuineIntel GNU/Linux


Are you fraid of something ?
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>>109933667
When I use file manager it is ranger, but usually just use the terminal
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>>109933683
Nah, it's because all my packages are on stable version because i don't like to be an unpaid beta tester like arch users but idk if i should update my kernel to the latest version.
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>>109929388
tab -> escape
capslock -> tab
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>>109933667
There's nothing better than Dolphin
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>>109933750
and dolphin has so much room for improvement...
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>>109933696
Then 6.18.x line is fine.

but keep in mind the kernel is on its own concerning "stability" and "experimental". What kernel.org pushes is really stable and setting
echo "sys-kernel/gentoo-sources ~amd64" > /etc/portage/package.accept_keywords/system 
(or sys-kernel/gentoo-kernel if you don't want to tinker it with your own options) is totally fine on a system globaly set (in /etc/portage/make.conf) to amd64

it's way normal to pin ~amd64 for certain packages you want to install
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>>109933616
/tmp/bloat file was really long. So long that when I tried to paste it into pastebin it nearly crashed. Anything in particular I should be looking for?
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>>109933766
grep -i error /tmp/bloat > /tmp/lessbloat.txt
can help lowering the bloat.
feel free to question gemini or grok, uploading it. AI is a good helper to parse datas and point the current problems
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>>109933798
>grep -i error /tmp/bloat > /tmp/lessbloat.txt
read(3, "italsignature\nunprotected_errors"..., 1024) = 1024
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why am i getting this every time i try to reformat this usb drive?
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>>109933696
I'm using 6.18 too but kernel is a kernel, it's separate from the userland so the "beta testing" argument doesn't really work. You should use whatever kernel gives you most support for your hardware and other kernel-side features. (I assoom btrfs users see new kernels relevant)
>Gentoo
>stable
Whenever I'm trying Gentoo on a desktop I'm always finding myself in a situation where I have to enable "~amd64" globally for some reason. There's always that one thing that's masked unless I enable the testing repos.
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Okay guys, update on the steam frame. I got the streaming to work after doing a bunch of shit, mainly adding exceptions to the firewall and fucking around with betas, so that’s the good news. The bad news is games are super hit or miss, into the radius played without issue but half life alyx has a really obnoxious audio crackling issue that makes the game basically unplayable. Skyrim vr runs but I’ve been struggling to get mods to work, I think with enough effort I’ll get it to happen though. VR is pretty niche so I didn’t expect great success, that being said the fact valve didn’t even attempt to support Linux with the steam frame is a fucking embarassment and it makes me seriously regret spending so much on a DIY project.
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>>109934827
I've never used that program, and I'm not sure what actions you took to get that message. It looks like there's only an empty drive (sdd), and the program is trying to modify a partition that doesn't exist (sdd1). You might have to make a new partition table on it if you want to use partitions, but I don't think you need a partition on a USB drive at all if you want it all to be one file system.
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>>109934827
Graphical drive managers suck on Linux, just use cfdisk and then mkfs whatever filesystems.
(if the drive is for Linux use only, you can skip having partition table and mkfs the whole drive instead)
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>>109934980
KDE Partition Manager is literally a frontend to sfdisk
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>>109934827
i just use the gnome disk utility instead. it's perfect apart from being gtk.
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>>109934827
unrelated, but why is it mounted?
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>>109935356
bro i don't know i just want to format it so i can go back to windows, fuck this linux shit
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>>109935379
oh shit you're extreme beginner
my advice is learn CLI, no need to actually switch to linux, just install cygwin on windows and learn the linux CLI there
once you're comfortable with the linux CLI, install linux distro on bare metal
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Thinking of switching from Kubuntu to Debian unstable. I'm tired of Canonicals bullshit and just need a distro that supports KDE and a few selected .deb packages. I've read some threads about daily driving it unstable and surely it isn't any harder than
>make a snapshot
>upgrade
>if works, great
>if not reload snapshot and try again next week
If i get desperate I'll just switch to stable
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>>109933667
Dolphin is easily the best GUI manager, but I tend to use Yazi.
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>>109934980
>cfdisk
This software is so unbelievably based, I cannot believe some CLI guides still recommend using parted when it exists.
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>>109935445
Daily driving Debian Sid sounds like a pain in the ass. Debian Testing is a huge maybe, but even that is a clusterfuck, to say nothing of Sid. Why not just use Fedora KDE at that point?
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>>109935445
>latest packages but still stable
you want fedora
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>>109935464
>>109935503
>need a distro that supports KDE and a few selected .deb packages
.deb makes life with proprietary software easier. There are a few programs i need for uni that simply don't support anything else.
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>>109935641
>.deb makes life with proprietary software easier
Aren't they all available in .rpm too? Nevertheless, just use Debian Stable. It's not THAT old.
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>>109935445
The thing is, you'll be doing LVM snapshots because the installer doesn't support a proper subvolume setup on btrfs. But you can set that up yourself manually. There are derivative distros that do it for you but I never recommend derivatives as I'm sure you can appreciate as a Kubuntu user.
Sid is pretty comfy as a daily driver unless you need SELinux. AppArmor sucks in comparison.
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>>109935464
>Debian Testing is a huge maybe, but even that is a clusterfuck, to say nothing of Sid
Sid is a coherent OS. Testing is a bad idea unless you are literally doing testing for the next release of Debian Stable.
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>>109934827
you need to make a new partition table, that drive has had an iso image written directly to it (i.e. there are not partitions)
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Anyone in here got any idea how to manhandle a KWin feature that has no customisation in the system settings?

The mouse click animation's settings panel is pretty awesome so I was expecting that for the touch device I'm using. I'm surprised KWin has a feature like this at all for touch devices, which helps me with an extremely niche setup I have going. Even if I have to edit a config file or recompile or something, there's gotta be a way to fix the ugly blue ripples and make them nicer to look at, right?
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>>109924113
It's definitely this: >>109929742

I had the same issue with my kernel build recently. Ended up learning a lot about how the kernel manages that:
https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/Documentation/admin-guide/module-signing.rst
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>>109935648
>It's not THAT old
5 years old is enough to get you left behind from modern software
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>>109935972
Don't wait 5 years to upgrade, then; you get new Debian versions every 2 years. Plus there's backports too
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>>109935641
you can extract the .deb and run the binary in there on fedora, ezpz
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>>109935975
backports don't update every package, some packages that you want will remain old
and why use backports in the first place? isn't the purpose of stable distro is get left behind in version updates?
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>>109936015
The point of backports is so that you can get updates for shit you actually care about instead of being molested daily by shit you don't care about
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So this is pretty neat:

#!/usr/bin/env -S powerprofilesctl launch -- /bin/sh
# Script ran via power profiles daemon with performance mode invoked
powerprofilesctl get
powerprofilesctl list-holds


Output:
performance
Hold:
Profile: performance
Application ID: /bin/sh
Reason: Running None
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More of a hardware issue, but my laptop whenever i write it randomly activates the ctrl button. As you can imagine it can be quite annoying.
How do i fix it if i don't know what causes it? I tried prying loose the button but that didn't fix it.
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Does openwrt come with sane defaults installed?
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>>109936446
no. next question.
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>>109936446
If you're comfortable with SSH and know what you're doing. Sometimes firmware doesn't include Luci (web GUI) by default, etc, so if you're a point and click baby then no, but this depends entirely on you and your skill level.

If you're a retard then Glinet routers are based on OpenWRT and have same defaults.
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>>109936446
if it's a firmware for a specific model, yes, it should work as you'd expect ootb.
for generic versions like say the x86 one, you will need additional steps as generic ones are extremely bare (i.e. probably won't have your drivers preinstalled nor luci)
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>>109935288
If you hate gtk you might as well go back to windows.
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>>109936919
Or just use KDE. Besides Firefox (which is not really a GTK application, it just happens to use the toolkit) I don't use any GTK apps.
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>>109936919
>oh i love gtk on qt. it works so fucking well.
said nobody ever.
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>>109936980
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>>109936980
Werks better than other way around anyway this wouodn't be w problem if you just used GNOME
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>>109937014
>wouodn't be w problem if you just used GNOME
fuck off
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>>109936980
Might want to explain what the issue is, or exactly how gtk/qt is affecting it
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>>109937116
do you not see how the two menu options aren't showing up properly?
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>>109937146
And why is gtk/qt affecting that?
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>>109937146
If this same control/UI element behaves correctly in other places or other Gtk apps on Qt then it's an issue with this specific application itself rather than Gtk->Qt theming.
Although I honestly don't see the point in translating Gtk to Qt. The way GNOME does things, which is by doing nothing and letting Qt apps theme themselves, is the better approach. No sane person cares about theming uniformity or at most just cares about the consistency between light and dark theming.
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>>109937340
Personally i just use a theme that has both a qt and gtk version.
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>>109935451
Well, parted is part of any regular Linux install while cfdisk is not so I guess they are trying to be universal or something.
>>109935770
Isn't Sid a testing ground for Debian developers and not meant for actual use?
>>109935464
"testing" is just an alias for the next upcoming release, definitely not recommended.
>>109935641
You can't expect a random .deb to work with random APT based distro. And it's not going to work with Debian Sid for sure.
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>>109937677
In my experience most of those .debs work on any distro even on non-apt distros i guess its because they're usually statically linked
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>>109937742
>i guess its because they're usually statically linked
Right. If the binary in that deb package is indeed static, it will work as-is. In my experience that has never happened and all my external Debs were for specific distribution, usually Ubuntu.
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Genuinely why are Linux devs so useless?

Windows doesn't have multiple desktop environments you focus on ONE, just like you focus on one package format. KDE is already the most polished and chosen desktop for the future of Linux. It still needs work even Windows still needs work.

All these people like the mint devs, gnome devs, pop os are actively harming Linux because they are taking money and donations away from the projects that actually matter. I can't believe those scammer at Linux mint even are able to get $50+ a month. Their desktop sucks ass. No 4K fractional scaling support, a mishmash of shit gtk, no Wayland, no VRR, buggy, shit themes, broken animations at 200%
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>>109938100
>focus on one package format
>.msixbundle
>.appxbundle
>.msp
>.msm
>.mst
>.ppkg
>.appv
>.com
>.paf
>.nupkg
>.exe
>.msi
>.msix
>.appx
>.appinstaller
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>>109938100
>Genuinely why are Linux devs so useless?
because this question doesn't even really make sense.
you've used "linux devs" in a way that suggests there's a group who works on all software for linux, as if it was a single company working on a product like windows is. linux doesn't work like that. you have linux devs who work on linux, gnome devs who work on gnome, kde devs who work on kde, and so on and so forth.

you're also mistaken if you think everyone writing software for linux cares or even wants linux to become just one thing like windows is. we have many options because people like different things. maybe you'd like just one thing, and that's fine too, just use one of them. problem solved.
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>>109938100
i agree, this is what linux really needs
>one distro, one packaging format, one leader
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>>109938175
we already have one. he unified linux and turned it into systemd + linux.
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>>109938150
>.msu
>.cab
>.application
>.manifest
>.xbap
>.sfx
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>>109938217
>.cab
That's just Windows equivalent for Tar.
>>109938100
Package formats as in what any binary distribution should use, such as APT and RPM and such? True but it's all so simple so does it really matter?
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>>109938154
Actually it does. The only reason why Linux desktop is growing now is because of KDE and Flatpak efforts.

Everything before that was a mishmash of shit .deb packages, missing libraries, dependency hell and no good enough desktop with any real features like scaling.

KDE has all that.
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>>109938100
You would think for the sake of pride in their shared home they would work together better but they kinda butt heads too much to cooperate.
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>>109938345
and if that's what works for you then that's good. keep using them.

i don't use either, which is my point. it's not a bad thing to have multiple options.
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Thoughts on niri+noctalia? I'm a kdeCHAD.
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>>109938345
plasma 6 was a big step forward for sure but whats really bringing people in is the fact that windows 10 support ended before windows 11 was patched into being worth the trouble and finding a solid custom windows install is somehow harder than installing mint and setting up a whole new workflow from scratch
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Memtest86+ passed 3 times, I think I'll install gentoo now.
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>>109938100
Are you really that obsessed with forced ragebaiting every thread?
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>>109934866
>Whenever I'm trying Gentoo on a desktop I'm always finding myself in a situation where I have to enable "~amd64" globally for some reason
I am highly doubtful of that claim.
You just have to enable it on the dependencies of whatever you install, and only if the testing version is really necessary. Portage will tell you what to enable.
t. 2578 packages and almost exclusively stable
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>>109938441
i use noctalia with hyprland and it's pretty good.
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>>109938889
That's good to hear. I use gentoo so I'll try it out.
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opinion on opensuse? I was dead set on using fedora and opensuse is supposed ot be its yuro equivalent since they are both backed by corpos or something
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>>109938952
>gentoo
it will probably pull a screen of build dependencies, though
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>>109939089
I'm not afraid of compiling packages
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>>109938826
>You just have to enable it on the dependencies of whatever you install
>just on the dependencies
Tried that like up to the 10th dependency until I quit and did it globally.
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>>109938345
Different theory: so called normies have been doing everything with their smartphones for quite some time so they aren't exactly allergic to "Windows-alternatives". It was different back when everyone had a Windows PC for their everyday computing stuff so they couldn't accept anything but that specific OS.
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>>109936878
Some devices don't have enough flash storage for Luci, like when I flashed OpenWRT to one of my Ubiquiti access points so it's not just x86 devices.

As long as you're not a tard and can use SSH properly then you'll be fine though.
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>>109938100
>how dare alternatives exist
I hate to break it to you, but every single piece of software has an alternative and most software alternatives have users. Even Windows has different DEs.
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>>109939365
interesting, didn't know there were any not-super-old devices that couldn't handle luci. i've only run into that when using the x86 build



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