Bigger tits = more RAM is the age old canon.

File: C.thumb.jpg.02d898542a1b5(...).jpg (26 KB, 1000x562)

26 KB JPG

>buying mini led LCD over OLED
>in a time where modern LCDs ship with a vignette effect by default
Rolflmao

>>109913028
hardware vignetting saves you 0.5% of GPU rendering time m8

>>109913014
And it is good.

>>109913028
monitors have been solved next year 4k 360hz, tri mode 1440p520hz/1080p680hz for your higher refresh motion clarity/competitive and use a tv for a truly superior hdr experience if you want that
it's over

>>109913028
Oleds also ship with vrr flicker and pwm by default

>>109913028
OLEDs have planned obsolescence built in (doubly so if it also has quantum dots). IPS+miniled will work for 10+ years.

>>109913412
>OLEDs have planned obsolescence built in
not limited to oled but all electronics, hallmark of a poorfag cope

>(doubly so if it also has quantum dots)
you made this up

>IPS+miniled will work for 10+ years.
IPS will glow you up even more than VA miniled
minileds fail faster than oleds as we have seen

copes lies and actual factual wrong things in one post

>>109912999
Imagine actually buying a pc and not just paying with bill me later and returning the pc

Considering 8th-gen processor is the baseline for Windows 11, would it be more wise to get a higher generation or is 8th-gen good enough? Also, no, I'm not gaming. I'm just looking for desktop.

>>109913028
What OLED do you recommend then? At least LCD don't have text fringing or burn in, and won't shit itself because you cleaned them or sneezed too hard at it.

>>109913511
Get a mini pc with a newer ryzen

>>109912999
I'm not accepting a GPU from some fat bitch.

>>109913634
Apologize to your mother right now son

>>109913559
mini pc's are so hot

>>109913460
>not limited to oled
not "limited", but oled is highly susceptible and has degradation built in.

>you made this up
nope, look up any channel about TV repairs. quantum dots wear out just like oled does.

>IPS will glow you up even more than VA miniled
sure, but it will work the same for a decade. I personally had IPS monitors as daily drivers for a decade. show me an oled after a decade, it'll have a tenth of the brightness due to burn-in up the wazoo.

>>109913680
arent quantum dots dying even faster as their base color is blue, the light source that dies the quickest?

>>109913680
Quite frankly, I only had one monitor die on me. I tend to replace them as higher pixel densities become cheaper. 5k sure is taking its sweet time to reach 300EUR, tho. And OLED is for blind people who don't notice the fringing, the grainy text, the flickering, and who only play videogames in darkness, and who cry whenever they see their reflection on the dim glossy panel.

File: Screenshot 2025-12-09 at (...).png (1.43 MB, 2846x1691)

1.43 MB PNG

So I should have bought this. It was in my cart.

>>109913802
Traditional blue LEDs due fast, quantum dot blue is special and last 5000x longer.

File: 1607591072618.jpg (117 KB, 952x1024)

117 KB JPG

>>109914103
The 5090 is a waste of money. Overpriced piece of shit it is.

>>109914312
true, for what it costs its pretty terrible at path tracing

File: flicker(1).webm (569 KB, 480x854)

569 KB WEBM

>he boughted oled

>>109914353
You get flicker like that when your frametine is super unstable. Look at his graph.

File: vrrflicker.webm (2.64 MB, 854x480)

2.64 MB WEBM

>>109914361
>its only when the framtime is unsta-

>>109914368
now show the 0.1% lows

>>109914368
Yes their frametime is unstable. The game is not just running they also have background apps mainly dwm.exe & overlays.

>>109914368
not a problem on tvs

>>109914368
Where's the frametime graph though?

>>109914312
The 5090 was an investment. I can sell mine for double what I paid new. I would have been paid to game.

>>109914368
good practice is limit the game fps at its average fps and make sure that average fps is at least 50-60% of your monitor refresh rate, you wont fix the dips and they will be more noticeable when your usual frametime is 4ms than when its 16ms
kinda annoying this stuff is not auto set by game and you have to find it by yourself on internets on game by game basis

File: Screenshot 2026-09-26 154204.png (274 KB, 476x352)

274 KB PNG

>>109914427

File: 1778814753859.jpg (78 KB, 600x600)

78 KB JPG

>>109913028
>IPS bloom worsened by FALD zones (in a dark room).
>VA miniLEDs can produce smeary image.
>Only one RGB miniLED monitor announced.

>>109914411
>oled niggas going through 17 different rituals before they can use their computer

>>109914427
>>109914434
Either the monitor's defective or his VRR isn't set up properly (monitor running at 60Hz & game capped @ 60 FPS).
You don't want the game FPS to exactly match the monitor's refresh rate.
His monitor's switching between V-Sync & VRR, because no display can perfectly present 60Hz.

>>109914458
Should have just bought a LG G5. Monitor tech is a trickle down from TVs.

redpill me on pulsar

What's the best way to start tuning my BIOS settings? Should I just stick to the presets?

>>109914353
>>109914368
>>109914427
>>109914434
this depends on too many variables
I've heard everything from windows install + drivers + specific game engine + display in question

still nothing else to boughterize

JBAOTV

>>109914453
rgb has color crosstalk/color bleeding, even slower panels, less dimming zones
ips also still smears

>>109914510
if you are sensitive to flicker you will vomit, get headaches, be drugged after prolonged use of it
if you gonna try the 60fps flicker meme you gonna see insane flickering at 60fps
still an IPS and 1440 max

overpriced

it's lcd strobing

strobing disengages with fps flacuations

it gets updates through firmware so they can improve it atleast

seems unsuable for esports, its not esport tech, its clarity tech

>>109914077
I saw the flickering, the fringing, but lcd might be even worse
idk what's better
you can get stripe subpixels but now you get jailbairs uniformity and a carpet texture and green tint instead (woled fiesta)

>>109914458
it is good practice for all monitors in terms of minimizing the effect of frametime changes not just oled

>>109914499
it is long known you are supposed to limit fps 3-5 fps under monitor max refresh so you never go into vsync

>>109914569
>3-5 fps
it's percentage based now due to the frametimes shit?
like how nvidia autocaps 240hz to 225fps
that is not 5 fps

>>109914529
>disable any automatic OEM software installers (only relevant for windows)
>disable fast boot
>enable expo or xmp
>disable RGB lighting in S4 & S5 if you have any
Optional would be things like disable unused devices e.g. realtek onboard sound if you use a soundcard or external USB DAC or enable hardware virtualization for VMs. Motherboard and setup dependant but some lane configuration you may need to switch around disabling USB4 if not needed for faster secondary m2. Sometimes you need to set the GPU as primary so the iGPU of the processor isnt used. Turn off or enable rebar if you want.

>>109914617
I guess, when it became rule there were no 500hz monitors so it makes sense

>>109914617
I believe the FPS cap formula for Reflex is:
>Refresh Rate - (Refresh Rate x Refresh Rate / 4096) = FPS Cap
4096 is set to give about 0.25 ms frame time buffer to avoid triggering V-Sync, it fluctuates between 0.25 ~ 0.3 ms in practice.
The minus 2 or 3 FPS is for 60 Hz refresh rate.

>>109914529
Familiarize yourself with a variety stress tests if you're trying to overclock stuff.
>Should I just stick to the presets
I wouldn't use the board vendor's OC presets in their BIOS, they're so power inefficient.

File: cursed pepe.jpg (47 KB, 564x679)

47 KB JPG

the 5090 is a 1440p card
the 5070 ti, 5070 and 5060 ti 16gb are all 1080p cards
or at least control resonant makes it look that way

>>109914920
crazy to think that the 3090 was marketed as 8k capable by nvidia 6 years ago

>>109914368
use hdmi 2.1 not dp

>>109914368
>hitting the refresh rate ceiling
ngmi

File: 1746407573245393.jpg (93 KB, 700x671)

93 KB JPG

>play game
>see micro stutter
>check frametime graph
>it's perfectly flat
Now I'm wondering if a 3m long DP 1.4 cable actually makes this shit, because the 1.8m HDMI 2.1 cable that came with a monitor seems smoother. It might be an extreme placebo though, but chatGPT not being very helpful in this matter.

>>109914353
>>109914368
this is like when you have photosensitivity epilepsy and you get exposed to flickering lights and it makes your brain hallucinate more flickering lights

>>109915116
shorter cables are short for a reason
then gain there might be dsc thing going on since your monitor is 4k

>>109915116
it is not that hard to switch cables and try it again
personally I never had dp cable longer than 1.5m that didnt cause problems for high refresh modes

>>109915116
what's chatgpt gonna do? just read reddit threads and regurgitate the misnformation back at you because redditors are retarded?

>>109915135
>>109915150
I'm not that anon. My monitor is 240hz 1440p OLED. I'll do some testing, because it's a very interesting thing, but I'm pretty sure these very rare stutters are monitor / cable related. I use a 3m Equip ""Premium"" cable, because I use an arm and the 2m is kinda short.

File: 1789824566545029.gif (972 KB, 200x251)

972 KB GIF

>>109914920
>No I can't turn down anything from ultra and max pathtracing
>Yes I have to run native instead of quality
The game scales down to like a 2060 intelligently like a white man coded it. Be one yourself.

>>109915189
hehe

>>109914994
Well games were lighter wight back then, but yea 4k was even pushing it.

>>109914994
it was about 8k tvs but those went away due EU regulations

>>109912999
>onee-shota
dare I say based

would a 9070 GRE be an okay improvement over a 6700 XT for 1440p gayman
I know it's basically a castrated 9070 which itself is still worse than a 5070 since AMD can't into raytracing and upscaling, but graphics card prices are mental and the GRE seems somewhat reasonable

I'm doing a system overhaul and want to shift my old windows install to a new drive - is clonezilla the best way to clone the OS? Aim HDD -> SSD.

>>109915579
you want to reinstall windows

>>109915579
to give you the stackoverflow like answer. You're better off reinstalling windows as it bloats anyway and it will fuck up likely a handful of things if you copy it.

>>109915546
Nigga that’s barely a 30% upgrade in fps, save more money

File: IMG_9545.jpg (3.53 MB, 4281x4957)

3.53 MB JPG

how dumb was it to go from a 7600 to a 6800 non-xt? i figure 6000 series will be more viable when fsr4 comes out for it

>>109915827
You won't beat infiltration saving.

>>109916020
pants on head retarded given rdna3 will likely do fsr4 much faster than rdna2 (like how rdna4 is much faster than rdna3 is)

>>109916020
anyone needing a gpu and not buying an nvidia 5070 ti when it was msrp was pretty dumb

File: cursed pepe.png (89 KB, 200x219)

89 KB PNG

i didn't know the 9070 GRE was a thing

>>109916095
the funny thing is it's not even better than the 7900 GRE

>>109916115
that's awkward

File: 1769660953593181.png (479 KB, 976x850)

479 KB PNG

okay so since my monitor broke in the airport im using the hotel's tv as a monitor and it has like 100ms delay anything I can do to fix this

>>109916352
have a few beers

>>109916352
are you the guy that was taking his monitor on a flight

File: 1758976698179581.jpg (37 KB, 500x500)

37 KB JPG

>>109916358
yeah

>>109916171
a>>109916095
AMD released that card, set a crazy price for it then never marketed it or gave it to any reviewers. It's not even an OEM only card like that 4GB garbage. AMD will always do this dumb shit.

GRE in general should've stayed as the chinese only shit bins.

>>109916352
Go to the TV settings and see if there is a game mode. Try to run a HDMI if you are using a wireless connection
>>109916354
this but a bottle of Jameson

File: 1781734652178542.png (191 KB, 498x381)

191 KB PNG

>>109916420
>game mode.
holy shit thank you so much, it's still awful but the latency is so much lower now

AMD is releasing a gpu next year
Without asking an llm can you remember what its called, what generation it belongs to, what type of vram it uses and where its msrp will land on

>>109914920
*720p

If I'm buying used ram off fb marketplace or craiglist, what should i be looking out for/asking the seller?

>>109916560
ask for ram with cum stains on them

>>109916458
10800x cpu and 10800xt gpu are launching same year
zen 6 + rdna 5
ddr5 + gddr7
current gen prices + tsmc increase

I have two ram sticks but I have four slots. When upgrading can I just buy two more? Do they need to be the same model as the previous two?

>>109916626
they should be the same speed otherwise the fastest stick is bottlenecked to the slowest speed and you paid more for nothing

>>109916626
>Do they need to be the same model as the previous two?
They need to be the same speed, latency, timings, etc
If they're different then the whole thing will perform to the lowest specs, plus there could in theory be instability problems

>>109916560
A picture that includes the model number so 1) you can look it up and 2) have a pic to check against when the you get the sticks in your hand in case they did a switcheroo.

>>109916571
Right. So anyway, what should i be looking out for/asking the seller?

>>109916660
Is it practical to ask them to do a memtest and screenshot that or is that too much for fb marketplace/CL?

File: kit.jpg (122 KB, 704x580)

122 KB JPG

>>109916665
ask them for a pic of the memory running in windows. hwinfo64 is free.

>>109916682
No given the length of time those have to run to give reliable results.

>>109916420
>this but a bottle of Jameson
/g/ is a bushmills board
take your swill and leave

>>109916638
>>109916643
I see. Thank you.
Additionnal question: I know having 2x16 is better than having 1x32, would having 4x8 even better? (I want to go from 2x16 to 4x16 but I guess that would still apply)

>>109916737
I've always heard that two sticks is better than four, though don't ask me why

im simply just going to wait for zen6 and rdna 5

>>109916737
consumer cpus are dual channel ram only so 2x and 4x will provide the same bandwidth benefits but 4x will be harder to run at oc speeds than 2x as the cpu memory controller has to work harder to keep double the memory banks active.

>>109916737
>>109916744
For a given capacity two sticks are better than four because - in absolute simplest terms - it is easier for the memory controller to handle.

This is why if you look at your motherboard's qualified vendor list for memory the speed they validate four sticks run at is slower than two sticks.

>>109916621
No, from what I recall, Zen 6 comes out late this year and RDNA5 comes out 2028 (assuming they can get enough GDDR7).

>>109916745
GPU prices will increase at least twice before RDNA5 comes out. You'll consider yourself lucky if you can find a 10600 or 6060 for under $1000. With 8GB VRAM.

File: gpu.jpg (143 KB, 1357x957)

143 KB JPG

>>109916767
AMD already has working Zen6&RDNA5 engineering samples, at this point they are refining the software/drivers and looking to release by 2027.

>>109916776
id rather pay $1000 for a 6060/10600xt than $500 for a 5060/9060xt

>>109914368
This is why i dont buy experimental tech

>>109916792
wise choice, a 10600xt will be cheaper than a 5070ti and destroy it.

File: miyu4.gif (45 KB, 220x220)

45 KB GIF

games im gonna play when i finally get my gayming pc (maybe next year):
emulate demon souls
emulate bloodborne
emulate xenoblade 2 so i can use the unburger mod
baldurs gate 3
shadow of the erdtree
REmake 4, re8 and re9
maybe something multiplayer? would rather not spend too much time in multiplayer games since you can accumulated thousands of hours very easily
nier replicant
pragmata
cyberpunk
the eventual persona 6 and smt 6
the eventual gta 6 pc port
maybe alan wake 2
death stranding 2
armored core vi
maybe the ff7 remake games
the eventual half life 3
some older games that i can't remember right now
the new gachasloppa by nexus
maybe modded skyrim
im currently emulating xenosaga 1 with my weak pc
recommendations welcome

>>109916840
in reality you wont play a single one of these and just doomscroll 4chan

File: blue.png (808 KB, 1280x1275)

808 KB PNG

>>109916840
yugioh gx tagforce
if enough people buy it they will make zexal tagforce

File: the ascent.jpg (3.81 MB, 3840x2160)

3.81 MB JPG

>>109916840
If you want some "oh wow holy shit that looks nice" graphics I'd recomment The Ascent
5 years old and imo still impressive for a top down twin stick shooter

>>109916840
bg3 alone takes like 150h to play so employed people take half a year to finish it

File: 1779181114820784.png (109 KB, 968x694)

109 KB PNG

MLID been real quiet since Kimi spoke

shut down all that RTX 60 in 2027 talk MLID was lying about

amd next graphics 2027
nvidia playing catchup in 2028
its like 360 vs ps3, 360 (radeon) arrived hard and early. ps3 (nvidia) arrived soft and late.

>>109916892
nvidia still makes consumer products?

>>109916745
you're going to be waiting a long time

>>109916895
gotta have a backup plan in case AI blows up

>>109916892
there will be no Nvidia 6xxx series, everyone will have to buy rubin pro for 50 grand

>>109916895
they have contract with epic games & nintendo to continue producing RTX hardware.

File: miyu1.gif (2.59 MB, 860x484)

2.59 MB GIF

>>109916855
i love playing videogames anon
>>109916861
ive only ever played hearthstone and slay the spire when it comes to card games, yu-gi-oh sounds intimidating but i'll try, i loved the GX anime when i was a kid
>>109916868
this looks great, how came i've never heard of it before
>>109916873
it'll probably take me like 200 hours because of my autistic tendencies, im unemployed that's why im struggling so much to get this PC done

>nvidia announce the 6000 series
>entry models cost 1600 bucks
>perfect chance for AMD to come out with reasonably priced cards
>
And you know they'll go full retard again

>>109916931
because they beat nvidia in cost competitiveness by ordering 90% fewer chips from tsmc fabs and..

>>109916931
isn't is possible to do some AI shit on AMD too? Otherwise they can always just buy them and salvage the VRAM to do something else with it so I doubt they will be cheap.

File: alexis.jpg (63 KB, 490x830)

63 KB JPG

>>109916917
the GX anime dub is really good and the new game is the only way to get the season 4 content in english officially.

>>109916789
what you said just means CPU may still come out this year (requires less software stack, easier to manufacture), but GPU not until 2028 (large chip, harder to manufacture, no GDDR7 stock, drivers much harder to do) unless you mean a paper launch. Nvidia isn't planning on new GPUs until 2028 either.

>>109916952
Technically it's possible to do AI stuff on AMD, it's just orders of magnitude slower

>>109916931
won't happen, even if entry model geforce cards cost $1600.
either it will cost $1600because 3/4ths of that is RAM cost, or it will cost $1600 and so will the entry level Radeons because why sell them at a lower price if the costumers will buy them anyway?

amd doesn't really put that much effort in radeon because they dominate the cpu market anyways, right?
besides, it's hard to actually want to try to help the consumer, let's say they release some super good GPUs that outperform the nvidia equivalent in power, functionalities, power consumption and a cheaper price, the scalpers are gonna ruin all of this effort anyways
and also let's not forget the fact that the nvidia CEO and amd CEO are cousins so maybe there's something going on there when it comes to not wanting to ruin each other's businesses by being too competitive

Hardware wise AMD could easily compete with Nvidia, it's software where they're still years behind

>>109916956
i'll definitely play it then, i'll do it for yubel and alexis

>>109916980
To AMD, Radeon exists to make chips for consoles. That is their #1 job. They get most of their mandates from their biggest customer - Sony. They only started paying attention to RT because Sony was asking why they don't have RT.

>>109916999
>nvidia releases hardware that usefully accelerates software features for several gens
>amd each gen: yeah theres no hardware support. Look forward to neural rendering exclusive to 10xxx gpus

>>109916999
Software is good enough. The whole point behind LTSC releases is so the software is good enough you don't have to update for 10 years.

>>109917048
nvidia cannot do vsr with mpos off. its a hardware limitation with their display engine. amd can do it on 7000 and up.

>>109916980
They don't put any effort into GPUs because R&D is a gigantic money sink, plus they were never able to fab large chips. Nvidia is better at both. Even for CPUs they only got better because they could split the I/O and compute to separate chiplets, both which are very easy to make so they can use cutting edge fabbing processes and still get decent yields. GPU requires both cutting edge process AND high yields (Nvidia doesn't get good yields either, but they sell chips at 10x markup for datacenters and cars).

AMD attempted chiplets on gpus with RDNA3, but it did not scale at all with RDNA4, so they only released midrange cards with no flagship. Until they can do chiplets for GPU cores, AMD won't have a high end Radeons.

What they are doing instead is making big APUs like Strix Halo, and repurposing the GPU tile/chiplet as a discrete GPU. From what I recall:
AT4: 20-24CU with LPDDR5X/6, Medusa Halo and low end discrete GPUs
AT3: 40-48CU with LPDDR5X/6, Medusa Halo and mid range discrete GPUs
AT2: 60-72CU, xbox/ps6, I forgot which memory, may or may not be used for discrete GPUs
AT0: 80-96CU with GDDR7, flagship discrete GPUs

Anyone here knows exactly how large is the rtx 5060 die (GB206)? I only see mm2 numbers but I need width and height.

>>109917162

File: 1788151398892894.jpg (33 KB, 640x480)

33 KB JPG

i need it.

>>109917212
?

>>109913175
And what exactly has been solved? Where could such refresh rates be useful?

File: miku.jpg (1.01 MB, 2484x2243)

1.01 MB JPG

what does it feel like to own a next generation computer?

>>109917518
>dota side panel
let it go anon
the game is dead, by valve's hands

what does it feel like to have a gf

found a tiny bit of rust on top of the fuma 2 that was on my brother's old pc that I was going to use on my mom's new pc, I wonder if I should buy a new one, I'm putting on wd40 on it and I'll scrub it later to see if it goes away, the fuma 2 is a brilliant cooler I want to re use it

>>109918179
>>109918223
i wouldn't know

>>109917518
too ugly, asus makes a proart case that looks amazing and has the same feature, 200mms in front

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3HWvdq

>1,000$ ram

a.i. is really worth it I presume

>>109918415
oh i own that exact same card, but not the other parts, so i'll be copying the rest of your build except that ill go with only 32gb of ram to cut down the cost

>>109918415
nvm, that ram is for content creators apparently? what will you be doing if you don't mind me asking, anon?

File: cabbit.jpg (183 KB, 984x697)

183 KB JPG

>>109918471
>a φ-scheduled, event-driven, hierarchical-memory SNN where the φ-schedule is both the computational clock and the cache-replacement policy. The hot set is stable between φ-scale boundaries (no page thrashing), the page traffic is 30× below memory bandwidth, and the STDP updates are local to the paged-in data. This is a neuromorphic process on a general-purpose computer — the "neuromorphic hardware" is the VRAM/DDR5 hierarchy + CUDA cores + the φ-scheduler as memory controller.

https://pith.science/paper/2604.12167

Something like this for a experiment to see if I can make an autonomous pc agent.

It would be trained on minecraft and qwen in a unix distro running a vm with the computer running a tiny sliver of visual cortex for living in a rendered environment of itself.

That way it won't be like subjected to ultra violence and porn and I can save it's "brain" for future development.

>>109918471
its not real creator ram since it's not ecc

Should I buy a OLED monitor for gaming and a separate monitor for everything to avoid burn in?

>>109918548
that's wild, anon, good luck. what if it feels resentful because you never let it watch porn though? maybe it'll hate you after you give it a body and won't have sex with you
>>109918562
what would be actual ram for gayming?

using a google smart TV as a monitor and it auto turns off as soon as it stops receiving any signal from hdmi and it requires a remote to turn back on and it defaults to the google tv movie selection channel instead of the HDMI input it was just using whenever it turns back on
jew have complete disdain for the goyim

>>109918668
I've been thinking about the tv box piece of hardware a lot lately, it's the most neglected part of the house hardware for everyone
it can't run linux because HDR is bad, it can't run windows because windows is bad, it has to run android, but it has to have widevine L1 hardware enablement, which means you can't actually build a diy tv box that works, you have to buy one that is good and has widevine l1, dolby atmos, dolby whatever else
the only mod we can do to those devices is actually building a custom android image with the help of claude and extract the widevine and all the other shit lines of code from the stock image and then we get a better tv box, sadly that's all we can do today until linux HDR is fixed and then we give up on widevine and just use jellyfin

>>109918612
>actual ram for gayming?
anything that's rated for 6000mhz cl30 to cl26
that teamgroup cl34 kit is fine too since it should be using the same hynix a-die ram as the aforementioned gayming kits

>>109918605
You may as well just buy a small 42 or 48 inch oled tv if you're only going to use it for gaming.

>>109918668
Make sure to check all the settings and turn that off. Worst case see if you can get into the service menu but I don't know what that'll offer. Maybe an inputs only mode or something.

I have a 10-ish year old PC
>i7-6700k
>32GB DDR4 2666MHz (8GB, 4 sticks)
>Mix of SSDs and HDDs
>Currently have a GTX 980 Ti
>850w gold rated PSU showing no problems
Am eyeing up an RTX 3070 from eBay for $250. Gaming at 1440p and I'm intending to use whatever technologies get me the best performance at the best mix of fidelity and fps. I really don't want to have to upgrade my PC beyond the bare minimum. Will I have any issues with an RTX 3000 series with an old 6th gen intel?

>>109918605
seems pointless since you could just save that money to buy next monitor instead of buying shit

>>109917968
everywhere, there isn't much to upgrade to left, segmenting monitors is over, it's over
it's been solved

>>109913175
People will play 1440p on a 4k panel using interpolation and they'll be happy... Fucking gross.

>>109919206
3070 isnt good since 8gb vram, its going to run into problems
but since all prices are fucked now idk.
maybe try to look at used 10-12gb 30xx, 40xx gpus just for the longevity it gives and ability to use vram using features like rt or frame gen without game crashing to 10 fps randomly

>>109919281
I can get an 11GB RTX 2080Ti for the same price as the 3060Ti, or for $370 I can get an RTX 3080 10GB. Anything past that starts getting into the $500+ territory and at that point, I might as well just buy a new 8GB RTX 5060. For reference I'm on a 6GB GTX 980Ti as is so really anything would be an upgrade at this point.

>>109919281
actually now that I'm looking, It appears the 3060 Ti and even the RTX 5050 are similar performance at 1440p whilst the 5050 has newer instruction sets. I can also find a brand new RTX 5050 for $310. I might just do that.

>>109919292
3080 wouldnt be terrible in that scenario, I can play games okay on mine but vram is occasional issue at 10gb, but I bought that 5y ago.
ampere has poor frame per watt performance vs 40xx and 50xx and they're so old so youd need to open em up and change thermal pads

5050 is like bare minimum for esport titles.
>PCI-Express 5.0 x8 interface not x16
seems bad

low end has been decimated and best value gpu is probably 5070 or 9070 xt

>>109919254
upscaling is not interpolation
or did u mean bothj

>>109919319
>low end has been decimated and best value gpu is probably 5070 or 9070 xt
if a brand new PC or even something remotely new maybe. I have a 6th gen i7 lol. I'm just trying to get >70fps in modern titles at respectable graphics settings. Given my choice(s) are a used RTX 3080 that I pray hasn't been used for mining or severe abuse or a mediocre 3060 Ti, or a brand new 5050 with newer tech and a warranty, I think I might go for the last one. Chatgpt claiming maximum of 8% performance loss on the absolute top end running the card in a PCIe 3.0 system.

5060 with 12gb would've been rly good gpu but alas nvidia didnt think so

>>109919206
stay in 1080p and u'll be fine, the difference isn't even that big

>>109919359
5080 24gb too

Dumb question: AIOs use non-conductive coolants... R-right?

File: Screenshot_20260927_174945.png (97 KB, 856x468)

97 KB PNG

>>109919705
Nope.

File: 1757622425290297.gif (1.17 MB, 500x378)

1.17 MB GIF

Total cuck mentality here but what are the odds of picking up the used hardware from data centers for cheap to build a low workload rig with some moderately beefy specs? In like 3-4 years when they all change out for the newest best shit and their older tech is around the point of failure.

>>109919359
5060 isn't powerful enough to make use of 12gb but 10gb would've been a nice sweetspot and kept the price down a bit

>>109919758
its a 128bit card
12gb would have been perfect for it since nobody makes 2.5gb g7 memory chips

Do you guys put shit in/on your pcs?

File: vUpNL9FhniDdQjNewhVTRj.jpg (241 KB, 1687x1687)

241 KB JPG

Is there a better mouse?

File: 49848486569.jpg (90 KB, 1280x719)

90 KB JPG

>>109919921
Yes.

File: 1783454166548798.jpg (42 KB, 656x519)

42 KB JPG

>>109919921
>razer
>>109919982
>logishit

Why is the sn850x recommended but not the 990 pro?

>>109920250
990 pro is bugged on Linux

>>109920250
I think it used to be that the 990 Pro was quite a bit more expensive than the SN850x. But, obviously that all got fucked up.

>>109920250
nobody here likes samshit

I bought a 240Hz va monitor and it has bad black smearing when moving fast. Is it supposed to be like this?

>>109920927
>I don't want smear
>buys the slowest tech on the fucking market
I have already told you this multiple times
yoiu didnt listened
and you bougherized

>>109920947
What should I have gotten?

>>109912999

2x 4090s 32GB DDR3 1030 DDR5 2GB 4x1TB SSD +DVD RW and BT/WLAN
1 x MSI NPower Z87 4090K 32GB DDR3 1080TI 11GB 5x1TB SSD DVD RW
1 x i5-14400 32GB DDR5 5600 3060 12GB 1TB NVME 3x 1TB SSD
1 X dual core duo e8500 8GB 2x2TB HDD 970 4GB DVD RW
1 x Dual Core e6500 8GB 2x2TB HDD 750Ti 2GB

2x 16TB NAS

I got rid of my 5060TI, 5080, i7-14700 simply because I realised I don't like high wattage high temp machines and practically they did nothing for me and I did not enjoy them, plus I had a techy kid begging me for them and went fuck it. Each to their own. If it needs more than a 650 watt PSU then I don;t want it. Have a box of 1000+ watt PSUs that I'm trying to find a purpose for.

>>109920955
if you are VA-poor than atleast you can get an IPS so you avoid the super smear
or an oled if you wanna spend more

>>109921025
>2x i7 4970s 32GB DDR3 1030 DDR5 2GB 4x1TB SSD +DVD RW and BT/WLAN
>1 x MSI NPower Z87 i7 4970K 32GB DDR3 1080TI 11GB 5x1TB SSD DVD RW
>1 x i5-14400 32GB DDR5 5600 3060 12GB 1TB NVME 3x 1TB SSD
>1 X dual core duo e8500 8GB 2x2TB HDD 970 4GB DVD RW
>1 x Dual Core e6500 8GB 2x2TB HDD 750Ti 2GB
sry fixed typos

>>109921040
Money isn't an issue for me. I am more of a cheapskate and only went with the monitor for the price and size and resolution, it was a UW 240Hz for about 200 dollar. For content it is fine but playing games is a mess

>>109921053
>Money isn't an issue for me
Buy RTX pro 6000 then

>>109913028
I don't generally look at my monitor from the perspective of someone watching over my shoulder

>>109921322
I personaslly am sick of high wattage high heat crap ESPECIALLY high wattage intel CPUs and nvidia GPUs. I want cool running low wattage machines that do want I want. Running a 5080 or a 5060Ti 16GB gave me absolutely nothing that a 3060 12GB or a 1080Ti 11GB did not do fine. I'll never bother running a space heater machine again. That stuff belongs in a server.

>>109921475
Your Jacuzzi cost more power than RTX pro 6000

>>109921493
It's not the cost of the power it's the fact that the heat cool cycles are just ultimately a shit enviroment and the stress over the 5080 having melty cables while I was asleep, the i5-14400 and 3060 12GB are on a 500 watt psu and barely break 60 degrees with load. The enbtire system minus the 36060 12GB peaks out at 180 watts. The utility i7-4970s 32GB with 1030 2GB ddr5 machines barely reach 200 watts. Suprisingly the 1080ti and i7-4970 also run very cool (the Gods of thermal repasting smiling on me). If I wanted to spend 20 grand I could but it would be on parts for server blade setup and fibre san. Plus my entire home has hydro, wind and solar that runs all the water and heating pumps, lighting and low wattage stuff with the NASs on UPS and I don;t need or want a 1000+ watt PC that is a fire risk thanks to nvidia in my home. I fuck around with LLMs and there is fuck all difference in load and t/s between 5060ti 16GB and a 3060 12GB with rebar on pci 4 and DDR5. Equally any gaymes I care about are fine on it for me even the modern ones(most of thje ones I actually play are retro). Each to their own.

Worth spending £40 for a 9900x rather than a 9700x? X3D not an option.

>>109921550
Just say you are poor anon. Stop larping being a rich people. Were all poor here

>>109921574
I don;t evenm know what counts as wealthy these days. My assets bare easily north of five mil and I live in a very modern owned house with my own very good arable and and woods. Then again I've never bought a new car in my life or borrowed money. I have other hobbies including antique arms and antiquitarian books, artisanal goldwork, retro computing and oild machinery, I have amy own 1/4 scare steam engine and a half mile of track. I don;t mind spending 5 grand on something if it's gud but if you step back and get real, the current high wattage era sucks and delivers nothing. If you want to spend five figures for fuck sake put it into a blade server and fibre san and not this garbage. It's just Nvidia, intel and AMD shitting on you from a height and it delivers nothing compelling.

>>109921631
Nice larp

>>109921641
There is a vast vast gulf between us if you need to believe that kid. You'll get there.

>>109921653
Sure bud. Meet at golf course soon ?

>>109921641
If only having money stopped your dog from dying. It does not sadly. Such is life.

>>109921662
I fucking hate golf and golfers. You hit bullseye there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1-axqBZdNk

>>109921565
Why is X3D not an option?

>>109921639
>>109921639
>>109921639
GET IN HERE BROS REAL THREAD

>>109921736
Fuck off debo

>>109921631
wtf is this shit
stop being mentaly poor and get an oled

>>109921053
>>109921475
>>109921550
>>109921631
based 5m net worth VA user boomer

oled has the best motion clarity so get that if you aren't poor, but they draw more power, unironically you can feel the heat off an oled

man I feel bad for you guys who are upgrading/buying in right now

>>109921951
The only winning play is to double cope down and justwait until 2028+
or the DDR6 great reset

this is a console cuck year anyway and people didnt evne boughted PS5 Pros got cucked too so if you missed the last sale on that you are paying 500€ extra just to play GTA6 slop on release, brutal

cucked upon cuckening upcon cuckening

>>109921951
>he doesn't live in terror of his components failing randomly

I'm wearing a bra and panties right now while watching recaps of my favorite soccer team. What CPU/GPU combo do I have?

>>109922028
laptop with a snapdragon

>>109922028
Apple m4 max

>>109922028
ARM CPU

>>109922028
Gopro and a 2022 laptop

>>109921916
Hes larping

>>109922411
Uh oh the rtx6000 pro haver is feeling adequate now

File: 1762366308578761.png (123 KB, 294x337)

123 KB PNG

Nova Lake X3D

idk who is possibly excited to buy new hardware where these terrible prices, I think the play here is waiting for the last generation of ddr5 before upgrading which will be zen 7 and hammer lake I guess

>>109922747
Nova Lake is exciting piece of technology

>I am pretty anti-social, I live a quiet life of work, woodworking, fishing and gaming.

How do I live like this

>>109919206
dude don't buy an 8GB gpu

>>109919359
Should have gotten the 5070 12GB. Decent chip, decent vram. It was perfectly priced at $500 that's why they sold so many and it's easily the most sold 50 series gpu.

>>109919748
who knows
the way they talk about ai will kill us all those drives might just all get destroyed after being done with them but probably not companies still don't want to pay for that shit

I've been looking at this display: iiyama GOB2701QSC-B1
What do you guys think? The brand isn't common in the us but it is in Europe

>>109923124
itll perform like oled but key downsides might be not having rgb stripe sub pixel layout and gray uniformity of woled

im very confused about monitors and want one for my pc build
going from laptop to desktop
could anyone tell me what is the difference between ips, va and hva?
btw dont get what mini led lights and lcd difference

>>109922747
People who win sharknado

>>109923244
lcd = bad
ips = lcd with poor contrast = bad
va = lcd with better contrast thanks to individually controlled backlight zones but worse pixel response times = bad
mini led lcd = bad, but can do hdr, but has blooming which is bad
oled = good

>people part of the AI bro tech club blanket labelling the techflation as a "gaymer problem" so nobody takes it seriously
Reminds me of conservatives labelling the gas and grocery inflation as a "liberal" problem.
Pretty sad and unfortunate.

>>109923304
People typically dismiss the permanent underclass since they have no power
They only care when they organize and come to their homes to kill them as too large group to conveniently gun down with few guards

What is a good pc for my normalfag parents who are mostly just going to be browsing (and in the case of my father messing with drum MIDIs), assuming a max budget of $700? I'm completely clueless as to what constitutes a good non gaming pc. They'll probably want 16gb of ddr4 minimum, I don't use windows 11 but I assume its pretty resource hungry.

>>109916075
Doesn't it get ouclassed by the cheaper 9070 XT, though?

>>109923337
No, its amd. Who told you that?

File: RFGzsAft8vmdw53AsRVyXJ-10(...).jpg (80 KB, 1024x535)

80 KB JPG

>>109923337

>>109923270
thanks so if va is bad then hva is bad too?
i will look into oled

>>109923355
So like 10% extra performance, for like double the cost...

>>109923368
LCD has been terrible tech for couple decades now.
Theres been incremental improvements to cope with how terrible the tech is but nothing changes that its fundamentally backlit, which is bad, it uses slow liquid crystals, which is bad, and its sample and hold, which is bad.

OLED fixes the image quality at the expense of burn in risk, you still need to cope with stuff like having rly high hz monitor with nvidia frame gen to deal with some of the sample and hold awfulness.

>>109923392
will i reduce risk for burn in if i use lower brightness?

>>109923405
you reduce it by having a 2nd lcd monitor that you can keep static stuff like taskbar up on
Then you use oled with black desktop background, dark mode chrome browsing and set the monitor to go to to sleep after 15 mins of non use.

If you want to have a monitor for productivity where you have same stuff up on screen 10h a day you dont want oled, but its fine for gaming and such.

>>109923375
You dont buy nvidia card for gayming

>>109920927
yes
that's literally what VA does and why it's basically been abandoned

>>109923375
the point was in 2025 5070 ti cost around 750€ and that was a decent purchase.

>>109923429
okay i want a good monitor for gaming mostly, i play fps mainly so good response would be ideal

>>109923328
>What is a good pc for my normalfag parents
m5 mac mini

>>109923497
pulsar monitor is likely better for clarity but its 1st gen tech and you'd be paying 700€ for ips contrast so thats lame

OLED is best all around for enjoying media

>>109923515
>clarity
*motion clarity

>>109923223
so what should I get instead?

>>109923497
>i play fps mainly so good response would be ideal
get an oled with highest hz you can afford
don't fall for dual mode scams

File: 1769805845120515.gif (489 KB, 220x275)

489 KB GIF

>($467)Ryzen 9800x3d
>($1000)XFX Mercury Rx 9070 XT OC
>($200)MSI X870E AM5 PRO X870E-P WIFI PCIE 5.0 WIFI 7 5G
>($486)Corsair Vengeance 32GB 2x16GB 6000MHz CL38
>($90)Random ATX Case, 6 front ports, at least 2 USB-C
>($40)Random Air Cooler 6 pipes 2x120mm
>($90)Random 850W Fully Modular PSU Platinum
>($274)Kioxia 2TB SSD m.2 Gen4
>($170)AOC 27" Fast VA curved monitor 1440 260Hz 1ms
This would cost around 2800 euros (2500 after tax shenanigans) for me. I have been stuck in a 2017 $500 Ryzen 3 laptop till now, I really want to get something before the year ends or the orange nigger war makes everything worse

>>109923515
>>109923533
acer Predator X27U seems affordable, what is better to use hdmi 2.1 or dp 1.4?

>>109923528
https://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/oled-rgb-stripe-panels-explained-should-you-wait
I dont think they're releasing the rgb stripe monitors at 16:9 1440p format yet
its actually hard to rec 1440p monitors until those come out, also they'd be expensive

QD OLED is generally the best for having better uniformity, so either wait for rgb strip or go for some >360hz current gen qd oled

File: hierarchy_rasterization.png (319 KB, 1200x681)

319 KB PNG

>>109923337
>>109923355
If it's rasterization they're pretty much equal.

File: 1783069573540326.jpg (26 KB, 640x554)

26 KB JPG

>>109923545
>Fast VA

>>109913511
I got my uncle a used 8th gen based Toshiba Tecra X40-E and it ran great. I’d recommend going newer ultimately but if you can’t that laptop is great

>>109923549
forgot to say the model i am looking at is 500hz

>>109923561
once you get 4080 territory you are hitting Windows limitations. switch to Linux and the 7900XTX is beating 5080 easily.

>>109923557
guess I'll wait a year or two then, but why would I pick a display over 360hz? I don't need that high of a refresh rate

>>109923549
the cable shouldnt matter much, old nvidia gpus had worse hdmi compatability but it shouldnt matter with current gen gpus

>>109923600
typically the samsung/lg up the hz incrementally year over year
oled pixels shift fast enough for 1000hz+ monitors so its simply about the underlying electronics being fast enough, power delivery to each pixel and such
if you see current gen oled with suspiciously low hz its been arbitrarily segmented into lower price tier which makes little sense to buy

nvidia 50xx has 6x frame gen and it adds motion clarity to games, if you get 100 fps in a game you can saturate a high hz monitor with frame gen

File: IMG_0676.jpg (54 KB, 976x850)

54 KB JPG

The only gpu i can afford is the 5050

>>109923841
Buy used, a 3060 12GB is a good option.

>>109923841
The Minimum GPU for Titanfall 2 on PC are an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 with 2GB of VRAM or an AMD Radeon HD 7850 with 2GB of VRAM

>>109923841
Save up.

>>109924122
It doesnt matter if RTX 5090 increase by $100 / day

>>109924122
theres loads of people who arent employed and rely on parents buying them stuff
getting more than 300€ from dad for a gpu is difficult

>>109923877
thats double the price

File: 1764101946742601.png (110 KB, 400x400)

110 KB PNG

Will things get any better, /pcbg/bros ? Has anything like this ever happen in 1995 - 2014 ??

File: chuditsover.jpg (15 KB, 360x360)

15 KB JPG

>>109924251
It's over.

>>109924251
for this long, affecting multiple components at the same time, and only getting worse? nope this hasn't happened before ever.

>>109924251
No, nothing quite like this. I don't think it'll get better. I think this is the new normal.

>>109923841
>can I play Cyberpunk?
>I don't know, flip a coin

>>109924251
The system assumes couple AI companies will be worth more than the entire USA economy

so if that happens it'd be bad, and you prob want to be dead by that point

>>109924244
You must live in a wacky place for that to be the case.

>>109924265
>this is the new normal.
as long as users and companies take the anal abuse silently...

Is the Mordor AI server tower really that profitable ?????

>>109923508
I probably should have clarified that they're windows users exclusively

>>109924251
2040 when World War 3 finished with USA losing and China winning

Do cases make much of a difference or is it mostly for looks?

File: 1773924954724207.gif (98 KB, 220x220)

98 KB GIF

is it worth getting one of those $800 secretlab gaming chairs

>>109924531
Not really, Macs have nothing to do with PC building.

>>109924801
Having a hotbox makes your computer slower

>>109924801
as long as you have one exhaust fan you are fine, intake is optional

Are there any good SATA III SSDs I can purchase at this point that aren't overmarked by 400%? I'm loooking at the samsung 870 and it's almost $470.

>>109924801
Noise levels are the only thing you should care about. A PC that's all mesh will be audible which may or may not annoy you.

File: MF_Bears.png (1.93 MB, 1170x1333)

1.93 MB PNG

rate my "budget" build. Things with manually adjusted prices are purchased already from eBay. It appears I've become a walking corporate sponsor for ASrock just due to current pricing.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sJyzh9

>>109925872
Why do you need 2 hard drives
Why do you need 3 144hz monitors

You can save a lot of money and use it towards getting a way better monitor and GPU

>>109925872
imma be honest 1080p looks so damn fucking ass it's unreal, in most games, unless you're gonna be playing competitive slop

>>109926021
>Why do you need 2 hard drives
Non program storage and redundant backup.
>Why do you need 3 144hz monitors
Because I'm on 1 monitor right now and want more as it's very limiting.
>You can save a lot of money and use it towards getting a way better monitor and GPU
There's no GPU worth getting for the money I'd save on monitors. I've looked. Prices are fucked. The B580 is literally the best GPU at sub $350.

>>109925872
With how game support goes buying intel has been a mistake
Control resonant launched without intel upscaler/fg support for example.

>>109926070
would you say it's worth the cost of getting 1440p over 1080p? There's ASrock 1440p 180HZ IPS panels for $150 each. I play everything from AAA single player games to World of Warcraft to Apex Legends.
>>109926081
yeah I'm aware of the Intel limitations but unless I'm willing to bleed like another $300, I'm not getting a GPU worth a damn it feels like.

>>109926081
the stellar blade intel arc fiasco showed me these devs will never give a shit

>>109922028
Apple neo in flourescent orange.

>>109926091
yeah defo go for 1440p, games are too delailted nowadays so 1080p feels cluttered, like you can't really look at stuff that's far away in a detailed way
the thing here is that that gpu is the equivalent of a 3060 so you'll probably have to play on medium/high if you want to run games at 1440 60fps minimum

>>109926091
all gpus seem they're at least 25% more expensive now vs pre-memory crisis

so 5070 or 9070 xt are the go to recs for """value""" atm

>>109926105
>>109926139

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yyxM4g

the only card I can find in relative range of what I selected was the 9070GRE for $550 which is still $220 more than the B580. Is it worth it? I can only get 2 of the 1440p monitors to say within the same price as the 3 monitor I had selected before but whatever. GPUs are fucking wild atm. The only other option >10GB VRAM than the 9070 is the 16GB 9060XT for $500 but I feel like the extra RAM is wasted if the GPU itself is far weaker.

>>109926139
HUB said it's about 40% more on average for nvidia over msrp and 25% more for AMD.

Not counting the 5090 of course.

>>109926145
> 9070GRE for $550 which is still $220 more than the B580. Is it worth it?
YES
And 2 1440p monitors will be better than 3 1080p monitors

>>109926158
jfc a "mid range" PC used to be like $1000 including a monitor. Now it's almost double that using 4 generation old CPU and an older RAM standard used from eBay. All for the faggots in silicon Valley to be allowed to replace us all with shittily made LLM's and curry niggers