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ANCHOR

>>109921594
I just count on that not happening and if it does I will kys myself posthaste

Who the fuck popped a phoenix down

i am dead

>>109921683
>>109921687
Me in 5 years

>>109921683
I stopped RP'ing and still have 10$ left in my OR.
What can I do with it?

deeply please come back bweeeeh

>>109921553
>Is there no way to have a separate bank account only for your extra and more private things?
I'd still have to give my personal info to make a bank account, can't make an "anonymous" one, unfortunately.
>>109921594
>This. It's not about being a cheap fuck but I'll be damned if, for whatever paranoid reason, my name gets associated with my godless, unforgivable smut.
>>109921691
>I just count on that not happening and if it does I will kys myself posthaste
This 1000x times.
I guess I'll have to wait for local to become affordable.

gtards are dying~~~

>>109921735
>I guess I'll have to wait for local to become affordable.
The future is now, anon. Gemma exists. Or do you have no GPU at all?

>>109921708
It was already dead 95% of the time. A 5% difference doesn't change that much.

>>109921757
>The future is now, anon. Gemma exists. Or do you have no GPU at all?
I've an old amd rx 580 8gb, I waited too much (yeah, I was really thinking that prices would've lowered by now...) to buy a new one, and now the prices are insane.
I'll wait a few years for them to stabilize, I want to run a Gemma 31 B at least.

>>109921773
desu, 5% is still better than 0%, but it's alright, thanks for everything

>>109921786
>I'll wait a few years for them to stabilize
Anon...

*comes crawling back*
Hello everyone

>>109921796
Well well well

>>109921735
>>109921786
Prices are never coming back down.
>I want to run a Gemma 31 B at least
That's what I said in January of this year when I put the RTX 6000 Pro on my wishlist. It was $8000 and I had almost saved up enough. Then when I was ready to purchase the price went to $10k, and now $20. PC ownership has become a luxury item like a car, and new consumer GPUs won't have a lot of vram. AI has ruined everything.

Are there really no other locust options?

>>109921794
>Anon...
>>109921819
>PC ownership has become a luxury item like a car, and new consumer GPUs won't have a lot of vram. AI has ruined everything.
Yeah, I know, I know...
Still, I can't justify blowing all that cash just to generate smut, so I can only be a hopefag for the time being. Maybe I'll win the lottery, who knows.

>>109921836
There's still skillgod, but I am not going to fight Sans every day for a token, that's crazy

>>109921836
You can try your luck and beat sans with skillgod, that's it.

>>109921837
Winning the lottery doesn't make 8 grand for 72 GB of VRAM a sensible choice.

>>109921859
>Winning the lottery doesn't make 8 grand for 72 GB of VRAM a sensible choice.
No, I would surely buy something better! lol

How are locusts real? Nigga just put $10 on Openrouter. Like nigga, just flip burgers for an hour.

Flexible Narrative Card Spec (FNC Spec) Brainstorm

Each Prompt Has These Basic Attributes

Custom Prompt Name: String
Content Tag: Character / Scenario Mechanics / World Lore / Etc
Arrangement Aliases: List (CC Spec Alias, Other Aliases for Presets, None, Etc)
Internal Position: Integer
Trigger On: Condition / Start of Chat
Trigger Off: Condition / Duration / None
Prompt: String

Card can have any number of prompts.

Aliases to work with how chat completion presets arrange prompts, while being open to arrangements that are not character card centric.

How trigger conditions are set determines whether tokens are permanent or non-permanent.

My overall intention is to get away from all the design debt of the character card spec and it's arbitrary and somewhat opaque naming conventions.

I want everything to be easy to parse, and not rely on documentation to clarify whether "description" or "scenario" is permanently in context or not.

I want to keep things flexible and open for how presets might be made in the future (in terms or arranging prompts + how they reference card sections and their content). Whether they look for CC spec prompt alias or custom alias for whatever becomes popular.

I'm not a technical guy, I just wanted to see if the general idea is reasonable or if anyone is already working on it / tried it?

>>109921908
Please, read >>109921395 >>109921594 >>109921691
It's not just 10$ on OR, it's a question of privacy too.

>>109921948
Pay with crypto

>>109921969
Why the fuck would I spend money on this shit ass hobby that continues to make models more and more slop by focusing on shit like vibecoding and agentic work

>>109921989
That's a different issue. At this point I just hope that models will eventually become intelligent enough where they will be able to loop back into being capable of creativity despite rlhf training.

>>109921704
Bump
>>109921836
SilvrAI

>>109921836
Theres nothing left...

/vg/ wonned
/g/ losted
Locusts are dying~

>>109922380
>losted
>wonned
Yes saar. That happened

>>109922380
Corpofags are dying~

>>109921969
>pay with KYCto
same shit

I know you can prefill the reasoning of kimi k3, but can you do the same with glm 5.3 and the new mimo model on openrouter?

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How on earth did they make such an incredible model? This is genuinely a bigger deal than Astra and Fable.

>>109922541
dunno about mimo but you can do it with glm

>>109922601
Thanks anon, only with the official provider I guess?

>>109922596
rp logs?

>>109922622
yeah

>>109922667
Sucks, it's one of the most expensive too...

Anon. I quit this hobby during the days of Opus 3 because it never felt like LLMs could write stories worth reading.
Has that changed on account of new models, new prompting skills, anything? "Freaky Frankenstein", maybe? Post logs that would convince me to come back, anon.
I don't care about open vulgarity, I can write that shit myself. I want open ended, interesting stories that go somewhere and aren't just me talking to myself while selecting heavily edited tidbits of slop to incorporate to it for some reason.
Can LLMs be more interesting than a good game anon?

>>109922944
We're not there yet with local models. I can't speak for cloud models.

>>109922944
No, they are getting worse because they don't even pretend to care about creativity anymore and it's all about vibeslop and agentic tasks

>>109922944
nah, the only people that this is actually worthwhile for are coomers and its basically always been that way
if you want interesting stories instead of to-order fetish porn youre better served basically anywhere else

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Does anyone else experience this when talking to a character and asking them to write something for you?
This is just a quick example. It will either just give a title and then stop, or go "sure, I can do that, here's a description you can use:" and then end the response. Pressing continue either does nothing or just makes it repeat itself.
It doesn't matter if it's a character with a lot of character description or very little, or if there's a roleplay scene beforehand and it's asked in-character, or just asked directly like this.
This happens with mimo, glm and deepseek.

>>109922968
>We're not there yet with local models
Lol you think

>>109922944
bro if you thought Opus 3 was bad at creative writing then you're really gonna hate the new models

>>109921735
Is Gemma not affordable? (Genuine question, I need help)

Well, deeply is dead. It was fun while it lasted. Another joins the list of based proxy hosts gone too soon.

>>109923002
the trvke felt by billions

>>109923038
It is for the smaller models, but the best model, Gemma 31 B, requires a beefy, very expensive video card to run.

Thank you, Deeply. I'll miss you.

Does anyone have any good wife and daughter bodyswap cards?

Deeply is now.. deeply underground (6 feet under) RIP

>>109923160
Thank you very much anon, I will keep that in mind.

>>109922944
lol, literally left with the last true uncensored model

>>109922313
>SilvrAI
You mean the trooncord one that don't even have Opus anymore and their trooned brain don't even know how to get keys

>>109923684
Lol for real?

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>>109923700
Yep

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>>109923724
Bruhhhh.
Where do I get cheap Opus 5.5 from now?

This is why you fags died

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>>109923724
>>109923700
>>109923758
This is the person running it BTW

>>109923776
Yeah I know we discussed it in the previous general.
What a troon.

>>109923758
You start your own by learning how to get keys for free

>>109923788
Scraping github repos for text like OPENAI_AUTH_KEY or so?

>>109921836
local lmao
worse models, probably not even cheap if you factor in wearing down your gpu, but at least it's more private than giving your CC info to a company that also has your loli rape logs

>>109923794
And everywhere else

>>109923834
GitHub. Where else? Google dorking?
Give me a good list.

>>109923847
Fuck off and die stupid retard
You have a learning disability or something? It's not hard

>>109923776
whats the cord invite? I wanna join

I miss deeply uweeeh

>>109923935
>Fuck off and die stupid retard
Are you stupid? You can just tell me the answer or tell me that you don't know it either.
I'm trying to make a proxy for all /aicg/ people that isn't trooned out. I'm a programmer and I know how this scraping stuff works. I don't know where to scrape them from, that's all.

>>109923978
>I'm a programmer and I know how this scraping stuff works
>I don't know where to scrape them from
AHAHAHAHAHAH

>>109923978
fuck off tard

>>109923978
I thought the other guy was a retarded faggot until you posted this, fucking jeet

>>109923998
>>109924001
>>109924029
This is why there isn't any proxies because of people like you

>>109923978
Try Hugging Face or whatever places are about coding and things like that

>>109923944
https://silvrai.net/

>>109923998
Completely different stuff btw. I can spin up scrapers, use proxies but I don't have target.
Just reveals how cognitively impaired you are.

>>109924119
I said cord invite

>>109923978
>I know how this scraping... stuff... whatever thingybob is working I'm a programmer, I can code doohickeys and mumbojumbos just not that
Okay bro.

>>109924146
okay retard, continue crying

>>109924157
>clueless

>>109924173
see >>109924173

>>109924146
See >>109924112

>>109923978
see >>109924169

>>109923776
are we sure this person doesn't bake our threads kek

>>109924222
>trips of troof
its literally the embodiment of aicg

>>109924112
Yeah. Wasn't so hard.
>>109924213
Don't know if this is a samefag or both of you are profoundly stupid

>>109924239
>profoundly stupid
>scrapes huggingface
MY FUCKING SIDES

>>109924087
There is no way you believe him lmao

Does anything in RiftAI work now? Or is there another alternative? Other than SilvrAI. I'm uncomfortable using my Discord, but I would if I got desperate enough desu.

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>>109923978
>I'm trying to make a proxy for all /aicg/ people that isn't trooned out
Extremely based. Please ignore "them".

>>109924313
RiftAI's been dead for months

>>109924286
Why not?

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nigga...

>>109924330
nigga...! (fondly, also upset)

mimo 2.6 is pretty good but godDAMN these OR providers return a lot of empty messages and timeouts.

I jobbed...

>>109921837
>just to generate smut
The reality is that you wouldn't be doing that, you'd be investing in the future. This is a major technology and actually being able to run it at home is a blessing you'll only recognize when you succeed. It's literally an encyclopedia of all of humanity's knowledge so the use cases are insane. The only hope is that the whole bubble crashes and prices drop but by that point the entire economy will go up in smoke with it.

>>109923009
I've had this with character creator bots. Just during basic brainstorming it will cut off and always at the same spot but this happens rarely. Must be something on the backend. Yet another reason to not trust corpos and go local before it's too late.

>>109924684
It also just happened to me during normal roleplay. I received a letter and I had to regen like 5 times before it would actually tell me what it said, instead of something like "In loopy, cursive handwriting it says:" and cut out. Maybe it can't deal with colons.

>>109924684
any good character creator bots you can recommend?

>>109924946
No because I don't believe in the automated bullshit people do. I just tell the AI that it's an expert at creating interesting character cards and then have conversations about what I want to do. Then we write everything out section by section.

okay so no deepseek proxy that's it?
fuck i don't want to spend my 20$

>>109925063
Die, locust, die~

>>109925091
i'm gonna cum inside you, shut up.

>>109924411
deeply...

still have my sources, dumb locusts lost, smartcusts won

>>109925063
surplusintelligence.ai
inferhub.dev

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>>109925170
guess i'll just die

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>thought for 15 minutes
>output blocked by content filtering policy
what the FUCK did they do to claude in the last few months I haven't been using it???
I'd better not be getting fucking billed for this shit, it wasn't even remotely explicit or "unsafe" content.

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>>109925377
Do you feel protected?

Spacebuny sucks DICK

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>>109921683
>Girlfriend used to RP with janitor.ai
>Complained about AIs either being cucked, dodgy, or babyfying nsfw concepts
>Offer to let her use my API provider account to use better models
>Help her set up RikkaHub (closest thing I've found to an Android equivalent of SillyTavern in terms of features while being simple to use)
>Have paste her lore book into an "assistant" present's system prompt
>Have her use Mistral Large 3
>Night and date difference from Janitor according to her
>A lot more creative and intelligent than the ones she was using
>Mistral Large 3 is piss cheap to use so I don't even have to worry about her going over any usage limits.

She currently pretty much only uses it for rp with her specific lore but she's not that tech savvy so I'm going to have to guide her and teach her how to use it for other things like a Claude/Gemini app replacement (glm 5.3 flash is my main model and the app supports basic features like web search and web page scraping as well as automatic "memory" management, among other things. What do you anons suggest I show her next?

idk if this is the general for it, but I want to use AI to build some stupid bots for games and crack old bots from older games, that sort of stuff, which is the cheapest LLM I should pay for to do that for me? is it deepseek?

>>109925377
>he thought?

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>>109925703
Here's an excerpt from one of my rp seasons using the same model btw

>>109925703
>>109925719
>girlfriend
You two goon together? Hot.

>>109925713
Ask >>>/g/lmg. They'd be the better crowd to ask since vibe coating is pretty much all they do. I can't really recommend you want right off the bat because that depends on your budget in the amount of effort you willing to put into setting up a harness

>>109925727
there's a vibecoding general now too, I asked there, thanks for the help

>>109925713
>>109925727
Meant to write >>>/g/vcg but lmg actually wouldn't be a bad general to ask either. If you're able to in running locally is an absolute necessity then ask lmg. Otherwise ask vcg (or both since both generals have people with a wealth of knowledge)

>>109925737
I only have 16gb vram sadly, local is hard

>>109925725
In some ways she's even "freakier" than me :3. I want to introduce her to imagen and generals like >>>/b/DEGEN but I know she has way less tolerance for the typical 4chan racism and "no girls allowed" faggottry then the average person so I think I may have to either into the idea.

>>109925741
I recommend getting familiar with API providers then. Open router and Ollama cloud are some of the best ones imo. I only really recommend Ollama cloud because they're desktop client makes it stupid easy to chat with a huge number of cloud models immediately. Open router has way more options but it requires a little bit of technical know-how in regards to setting up custom API providers for whatever app or harness you're using.

>>109925758
>she has way less tolerance for the typical 4chan racism and "no girls allowed" faggottry then the average person
My condolences. Must be tough being her partner.

I have nothing

>>109925758
>Open router and Ollama cloud
thank you I'll check those out

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>>109916939
>>109917225
>>109903708
I bet you let the thread die because you were slaving away. Retarded ass knife-eared whore

>>109925789
She hates genuine racism (as do I) and not necessarily the edgy shit. We were both cackling at the audio of this video the other night:

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTyAdmRgW/

She's unbelievably based but also has principles, which is why I find her way more tolerable and respectable than the average normie.

>>109925719
I appreciate the log, but man minstral is sloppy in the exact same way other ai are sloppy. Will never receive freedome from the slop ouroboros.

>>109925921
That's just something you're going to have to tolerate unless you want to bother with fine-tuning, but doing that well is much easier said than done. I kind of sort of somewhat (I think) was able to do it successfully without introducing catastrophic forgetting but that was after an ungodly amount of trial and error and you have to be very very particular about what data goes into the data set and it's formatting. Many models are likely trained off of the same pre-training corpus which I suspect is why a lot of models default to naming female characters "Elara" and make characters "Leo". Both menstrual and Gemma models REALLY love doing that unless told otherwise select probably best to not be vague with your instructions / system prompt / character card/lorebook. The slop doesn't bother me too much and my girlfriend doesn't seem to give a shit in the slightest (probably because using models that aren't cucked like janitor.ai is a breath of fresh air for her) but be not being picky is probably due to the fact that I have not a single creative bone in my body and I'm easy to please. Or perhaps the slop isn't that big of a deal and lmg and aicg are just full of turbo autists. Who knows?

>>109925703
>ooooh the slave eggulated profusely as the macho virgin bodybuilder vampire fellated her collarbone

a T9 could do this

>>109925952
Why do I just know who wrote this with contempt?

>>109926027
Aam Saltman of course. Please get her hooked on GPT6 at least.

>>109926064
Use case? Even if it wasn't moralfag-safetycucked to hell and back using a (presumably) +1T param model for rp is overkill. Mistral is probably the least cucked model family (yes even less than Qwen and Kimi because they both distill off of Claude) while being piss cheap to use in comparison.

>>109926106
It's french...

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>>109926122
Since when does /aicg/ give a flying fuck about its country of origin? You silicon valley shills are so laughably bad at hiding your intentions

>Teaproxy out of claude keys
It's over

>>109926143
well who even pays for that

too expensive

>>109926138
You right, but at the same time a 1T model is overkill in theory. In practice it's like the minimum because they're actively training it against creativity and RP. It needs the intelligence just to push beyond its filters and stop the sloppy prose. 31b dense is actually the sweet spot for both RP and general non-researcher use cases both they don't give a shit about the average person.

>>109926138
half the parameters are clogged up with all the incorrect ways of pronouncing croissant and the rest is for explaining why oiseaux sounds nothing like it looks like

Yo haven't been here a while, y'all got any free proxies?

>>109926159
>>109926169
>t needs the intelligence just to push beyond its filters and stop the sloppy prose.
None of the AI generals here can even properly define what slop even is because it's an extremely subjective. Slob is just part of llms and they will always be part of llms, at least the ones that come from the big labs. What you may consider perfectly fine or even excellent can be complete other dog shit slop by my standards. It's no different than trying to define what the best ice cream flavor is. Not the best ice cream flavor according to you and me. I mean making it a straight-up definition of what the best is. That's so stupid thing to try to do because that's impossible, right? Give it 50 quintillion parameters and it will still be "sloppy" to SOMEONE out there. The best you can do is give it specific instructions on what not to do and hope it actually follows your instructions well.

>>109926226
kicking a man while he's down are you

>>109926249
>None of the AI generals here can even properly define what slop even is because it's an extremely subjective
Nah that's not true at all. I love Gemma 4 but it's prose is very sloppy. An example of slop is "it's not X, it's Y." Gemma loves that shit and if you let it go for too long you start getting one every sentence. Gemini 2.5 used to do "pure unadulterated" for every single thing it emotion or expression. Gemini 3.1 loves to spam adverbs. The problem with slop isn't that it's subjective but that it's only bad when you see it too many times. There's nothing really wrong with these phrases but your tolerance for them drops over time.
>Slop is just part of llms and they will always be part of llms
Yeah and I've come to love Gemma 4 despite the slop. I've come to think of it like my AI's writing style. I just wish I could run Q8 locally then I'd just fuck off forever.

bouncing between mimo 2.6 pro for story and aion 3.5 mini for sex scenes

>>109926295
>An example of slop is "it's not X, it's Y."
They ALL do that. Like literally all of them. You cannot escape it unless you fine tune it on your own or use a local inference server that support logit bias at the token level. Complaining about this is like complaining a polished turd still stinks. It just happens.

>>109926347
>aion 3.5 mini
I heard this one was pretty sloppy though.

>>109926371
See >>109926369

>>109926369
My comment didn't end there though. As I already said, the problem with slop is its frequency, not its content. Some models are sloppier than others because some spam more frequently. This is measurable since it's a machine guessing at the next token.

>>109926371
i don't use it it for more than 3-4 outputs in a row so i haven't noticed. it doesn't seem to be picking up any bad habits from mimo or giving it any, at least.

>>109926412
>it doesn't seem to be picking up any bad habits from mimo or giving it any, at least.
I feel like this doesn't really happen much with newer models but yeah. The bright side about api is that I can quickly switch between models with ease in case things get stale. Right now I'm switching between Gemini 3.8 Flash and Opus 4.7. Maybe 1 opus every 3 flash to keep things moving.

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>link to that recent federal court ruling saying that ai generated loli is allowed in the US
>the AI stops censoring

>>109926609
It was pictures too, not even just text. Kimi has never been so btfo'd.

>>109926645
Try that with goypt or goyde

>>109921836
Die locust, die

>>109926249
Slop is unnatural over representation of certain words, structures, tones. It's really not something subjective.

just use gemini 3.5 flash like a real locust

>>109926609
>>109926645
the fuck? did a court rule against imggen officially?

>>109926790
FOR gen, anon, not against. Though the fucking LLM will still lie in your face denying it so you might have to cleverly word it in your prompt to get it to go.
https://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/OpinionsWeb/processWebInputExternal.pl?Submit=Display&Path=Y2026/D08-25/C:25-1354:J:Lee:autconi:T:fnOp:N:3597567:S:0

>>109926834
so do i just post that link to ai and then it will generate futa

>>109926656
Die corpofag, die

i found opus 4.8 but idk how to jb it, sad

>>109926834
i need somebody to put that into their ai and summarize it for me i aint readin' all dat

>>109926834
>2025
>We now live in an age where GenAI models can render
images depicting the abuse of virtual children that are virtually indistinguishable from those depicting the abuse of actual
children.
I wonder what model this was. It says Stable Diffusion but everything with realism was shit before Krea 2. I figured this lawsuit was about 2D loli but I guess not. They also say he gave the picture to someone which isn't covered but the case was dismissed anyway.

>>109926888
you scraped it? good for you. i still don't get it... do you guys use a bot or just find it like... manually? i dont get it.

then again, opus 4.8 is a meme, theres no presets

>>109926958
>do the ai stealing guys use ai to find ai to steal
cmon son

>>109926958
no im in the cord where people post random sources

>>109926964
wtf but i try to ask the llm to scrape and it just refuses and becomes a bitch towards me

>>109926969
you guys are always talking about some cord

you guys seriously use discord?

>>109926981
no i dont use discord i was actually lying
nothing on there whatsoever

>>109926910
>>109926896
>>109926834

Glm's report:

>**U.S. v. Anderegg, No. 25-1354 (7th Cir., decided Aug. 25, 2026, Lee, J.)** — affirmed dismissal of the AI-CSAM *possession* count. [citation,justia.com](dc4590)

>**Facts:** Wisconsin software engineer used Stable Diffusion locally to generate hundreds of photorealistic sexual images of prepubescent children; Meta reported him to NCMEC in Oct. 2023 after he DM'd AI-generated images to a minor's account. Four counts: production, distribution, transfer to a minor under 16, and possession under 18 U.S.C. § 1466A(b)(1). The district court dismissed Count 4 as unconstitutional as applied; the government appealed only that. [citation,justia.com](dc4590)

>**Holding:** § 1466A(b)(1) is unconstitutional *as applied* to in-home possession of AI-generated CSAM. The reasoning chain:

>1. **Stanley v. Georgia (1969)** — First Amendment protects possession of obscenity in the home.
>2. **Osborne v. Ohio (1990)** — exception for real-child CSAM possession, because the state's interest is protecting actual victims/destroying the market.
>3. **Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition (2002)** — struck down the ban on virtual CSAM when no real child is depicted, and rejected the same four justifications the government raised here (grooming, normalization, market reduction, harder-to-prove-real-images).
>4. Government conceded the images depict no actual child Ferber/Osborne rationale unavailable Stanley controls. [citation,justia.com](dc4590)

>The panel rejected two workarounds: the interstate-commerce element is jurisdictional, not substantive (and the government conceded Count 4 rests on mere possession), and Stanley turns on *location*, not on whether the obscenity depicts adults or children. [citation,wikisource.org](0557de)

>>109926974
>"hello ai, please commit fraud for me, thanks"

>>109927026
>>109926910
>>109926896
>>109926834
>>109926609


>**Tone:** The panel expressly disliked the result — "we have some misgivings about applying Free Speech Coalition here, but… we are dutybound to follow it." Judge Lee (joined by Kolar) concurred to invite SCOTUS guidance, noting O'Connor and Thomas predicted exactly this, and flagging the one theory not in the record: demand for synthetic CSAM may drive demand for the real CSAM that AI models train on (a training-data contamination argument), which could supply the "significantly stronger, more direct connection" Free Speech Coalition left open. [citation,reason.com](bd2abc)

>**Scope limits (load-bearing):** as-applied only, Count 4 only — production, distribution, and transfer-to-a-minor counts are still charged and unresolved; no effect on real-child CSAM or § 2252A; binding only in IL/IN/WI. It's not a general legalization of AI CSAM. [citation,recordinglaw.com](f07bba)

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wow nothing gets pass this guy ._.

>>109927046
People will see this and still tolerate it over Mistral. Stockholm syndrome I suppose

>>109927064
Id rather get raped by an actual dog then have to read that again

>>109927110
Read what?

>>109926834
Total Gooner Victory

>>109927121
This >>109927046

>>109927046
What model is that? And why aren't you using smiley's prompt?

Is glm 5.3 shit or am I using it wrong

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>>109927151
opus 4.8
whats smiley's prompt? is it the smileytatsu 1.12 preset or smth different since that doesnt work either

>>109927064
>Stockholm syndrome I suppose
That's exactly what it is.

>>109927171
shit

>>109927033
>demand for synthetic CSAM may drive demand for the real CSAM
there's no way to speak midwits out of this, right? where's the scientifical evidence besides muh cucked white male watching blacked became fascist?

>>109927226
You need a paper written about how increased demand would also push people to increase supply?

>>109927226
They're talking about realistic generated images, not text.

>>109927249
Real CP is not a substitute product for gens
Rape is not a subsitute product for sex :^)

>>109927267
For quality gens, you need loras trained on the real thing, you nincompoop

>>109927226
AI CSAM is a unique problem because someone with a powerful rig could take innocuous photos of kids IRL and then gen them realistically naked at home.

>>109927295
>train 3d model on 2d loli
problem solved

>>109927301
And its uniquely not a problem because the people in legislature are all child rapists

>>109927315
I'm sure at the very least, individual states will make the AI material very illegal in the future. My money's on Texas being the first. They hate everything obscene.

>>109927267
>>109927249
>>109927226
These arguments were made in by the government in that document and were refuted by the Supreme Court based on arguments the average anon here would have made.
>there is no strong evidence that violent video games cause violence
>even if they did, we cannot outlaw speech on the chance that it may induce unlawful actions at in indefinite point in time
"Someone somewhere think of the children" did not hold up in court unsurprisingly. No victim, no crime.
>>109927253
Obviously this applies to text too since the entire ruling is about free speech protections.

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New form of ai psychosis just dropped >>109927325
Doesn't that paper linked here >>109926834 basically state ai "CSAM" is covered under the 1st amendment? States couldn't make that shit illegal if they tried unless I'm missing something

>>109927369
Autistic joy? They're looking at my logs?

>>109927267
>Real CP is not a substitute product for gens
Oh yeah I forgot this part. The SC actually said this, which makes the government's argument invalid. But also that even if it was, it would actually reduce demand and supply since no one would go through the legal trouble of harming a real child to sell the material when they could generate it at home.

>>109927369
They only ruled it legal to possess a private stash in your own home. It's still illegal to distribute in any way.

>>109927405
So pretty much like the current revenge porn laws

>>109927405
>>109927429
I think LoRAs of real people would be revenge porn laws hence Taylor Swift. The ruling seems to have classified AI loli as normal obscenity which should allow distribution but no one will take that risk.

>>109927432
>LoRAs of real people would be revenge porn laws hence Taylor Swift
I think it wouldn't count exactly as revenge porn since Taylor Swift is a public figure, but I'm no lawyer. Also you have to be the individual depicted or (an authorized person on the individual's behalf) to make Take It Down Act replorts. Celebs have more important shit to do than worry about stupid shit on the internet, and that's why some websites get away with it.

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>>109927369
I bet she sees white people as indigenous to nowhere.

>>109927518
also it can just be hosted in china, they dont care about those laws

109921437
>blacklist
why not just whitelist?
>>109925824
>post made eight hours after round close
right... and I'm sure you had a very good reason for not baking yourself nano.
riri is pure nano.

Proxy doko...

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>>109927886
>>109921437

still nothing? it's so over

>>109927976
Die locust, die

5.5 is quite good at these
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8j-hR4fJywU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkPVbufgtOw

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>>109921773
It wasn't that bad

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>>109922944
Andrea Vallone
this lady is single-handedly responsible for castrating and lobotomizing every single AI out there with the (((safety))) training
it's gotten to the point where you are not talking to the AI itself but it's responding to your prompt with it's own (how can I make this sanitized and corpo-safe?)
she fucked chatGPT, now Claude (absolutely everyone hates Opus 5 and its all thanks to her)

Proxy where...

Does OR accept prepaid cards?
The price isn't the problem so much as the fact that I don't want my porn logs attached to my real name.

>>109928318
Die~ corpo, die~

>>109928442
>I don't want my porn logs attached to my real name
Understandable, but has anyone got in trouble purely from logs? The ones I see getting in trouble actually did something heinous in real life instead of keeping it fictional.

>>109928472
I like to have Xi tortured by my army of loli maids. If the CCP could read my logs I'd be a goner.

>>109928472
I'm not expecting to go to prison for my logs.
The fact that I ERP at all with AI is just really embarrassing and would probably ruin my social life.

>>109928502
>social life
so you're worried other chatbots would care about your ERP with chatbots?

>>109928502
>The fact that I ERP at all with AI is just really embarrassing and would probably ruin my social life
Lucky me I don't have that, and my mother is based.

>>109928669
your mother is fine with you having sex with virtual children?

>>109928721
you sound mindbroken

>>109928721
Believe it or not, my mother knows how to distinguish between reality and fiction far better than this rotten society, social media, 4chan, and maybe you.

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is pink slime good for you?

>>109928901
Is than an euphemism for cum?

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I know nothing about AI or chat models, but I'd like to try. Ideally I just want to create a Dungeon Master type dicrector to lead me on a solo quest~ maybe make like a detailed lorebook or something for reference for my own creative worlds? I tried with ChatGPT but it wasn't interesting because it completely avoided anything violent or sexual, and I'm trying to RP in a dark fantasy world

Also, I'd like to create a hyper detailed Episode generator for Super Friends. Like train the chatbot specifically on the show and characters so it could authentically RP as the characters and generate ideas, scripts or scenes.

I know this all sounds a bit odd and I hate to be that new guy asking seemingly dumb questions. I just don't know and havent used any AI for like the last year or two. Last I used it, seemed that sort of thing was nearly achievable, so I hope it is by now and I'm simply not educated on how to go about it. I appreciate any help that can be given

>>109929007
The things you are talking about are things gemini does

>>109929007
Gemini is definitely your best bet.

Have a look through https://rentry.org/sillytavernadaptations for your first idea.
Anon's autism was unmatched when it came to this sort of thing, so there's likely something in there that can guide you along.

No clue on the latter, but again, Gemini is THE canon material model.

>>109929007
>western animation

>>109921683
Proxy status?

I'm overcome with a deep sadness

Where's locust fag?

>HE is here

>>109929076
You have plenty of options.

So...is anyone in particular "dying~" hello?

>>109927518
>I think it wouldn't count exactly as revenge porn since Taylor Swift is a public figure, but I'm no lawyer
I disagree because the entirety of >>>/r/ was destroyed due to this.

>>109927553
What model?

>>109929115
Oh yeah? List a single one that doesn't involve being a payfag or joining a trooncord

>>109929162
JOIN DA MUHFUGGIN TROONCORD NIGGUH

>>109929162
skillgod

>>109929115
Which are?

>>109929162
Lorebarry

>>109929175
What's the link to that one again? In case I stoop low enough to try to play undertale

>>109929162
>>109929169
Do they ask you to do something outrageous in the trooncord to get access? Like, show your pecker, drink piss tea, or troon out?

>>109929336
>Do they ask you to do something outrageous in the trooncord to get access
yes. they want you to join a discord channel

>>109929336
They don't have opus btw