Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/Provide specific use cases : Gaming / Video Editing / 3D / AIState BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped>CASEmATX: AP201, Lian Li A3/B4, XT M3ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), Lancool 207/217, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50, BF360 Flow, HAF II 500Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8>CPUBudget: 7500F, 7/9600/X, 225F, 12400F, 5600/XGaming: 9850X3D, 9/7800X3D, 250K, 5800X3DWorkstation: 9950X/3D(2), 9900X/3D, 270K>COOLERAIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Cooler Master Atmos, Lian Li GA II Lite, Nautilus RS, Silent Loop 3, Noctua NL-LC1Dual tower: A620 PRO SE, Phantom Spirit, NH-D15 G2ITX/>42mm RAM: AXP120-X67, Mugen 6 Dual FanTIM: Duronaut, MX-7, PTM7950* (phase change), KryoSheet (graphene pad)*Most online PTM7950 listings are counterfeit>MOTHERBOARDAvoid ASRock AM5 boards, CPU degradation issues still reportedChoose boards with ALC1220 audio codec when possible>RAMDDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)DDR4: 3200CL16, 3600CL18>SSD (update firmware)Avoid Crucial, they no longer replace failed SSDs under warrantyDRAMless: (SN)7100, C925G, NM790PCIe Gen 4.0: (SN)850XGen 5.0: (SN)8100https://borecraft.com/>GPUBuy the best one you're willing to pay forAvoid poor value entry-level GPUs like RTX 3050 & RX 6500 XT**8GB has become a major constraint even at 1080p>PSUBuying guide:https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/>MONITORBudget: 165/180Hz IPS (24" 1080p / 27" 1440p)HDR: discounted OLED or MiniLED (IPS/VA: motion clarity vs. contrast)High-end: wait for 2027 OLED releasesCheck reviews & owner feedback>OSActivate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt>CASE FANSMeta: Case with good stock PWM fansMidrange: Pure Wings 3, Arctic P-Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)Previous : >>109912999
both amd and nvidia are actual supervillains for making 8gb versions of the 9060xt and 5060ti
Asking again, any recommendation for SATA III SSDs?
>>109926329any that are left
>>109926332god damn it
>>109926332>>109926339lol
>>109926323*4gb
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3HWvdqI want vllm, ubuntu, goose, and SmolLM3-3BThen I'm gonna do a software neuromorphic emulation of a STDP network to wrap the SmolLM3-3B and have two cards each running the a.i. agents and wrapper, so I can get two a.i.s that can conversate in a virtual machine of the same OS, Ubuntu.That way I can put guardrails on the A.is so they don't delete special files or configure the system that bricks the card or worst, the solid state drive.If it works, I would have the first consumer grade autonomous pc. Which would be pretty cool.
>>109926293Fuck you dont remind me
>>109926293that's cucked because it means a smaller memory bus isn't it
>waitfags be like
>>109926323what about the pricks face when he saw the gyatt?
>>109926456More like $700 in 2070
this is the apocalypse
>>109926273I love NTR
Why did I buy a 3070 OC instead of a 60ti
>>109926540you were warned about the VRAM BROYOU WERE WARNED
i literally havent recced a <10gb vram gpu for the past 5y
>>109926273>nvidia interracial cuck trying to depict amd users as cucks
6090 or Ford F150 might not be a meme soon
It is over...
im so fucking scared of vision loss, bros
>>109926835Avoid OLED and flickering technologiesEmbrace flicker free display tech like LCDs and disable flicker causing VRR
>>109926734
>>109926581I literally havent recced a GPU in the past 5y because a midrange card isn't supposed to cost over $400
>>109926835just make sure you have a good job and can save up few hundred grand so when the eye restoration treatments become available you have options in your older years
I am once again asking if it is worth spending $600 on a secretlabs gaming chair
>>109926912what if you go blind before you met those expectations, you're literally so damn fucking cooked, you'd have to pray to mr.beast or something
>>109926921buy ergonomic office chair made by chinese sold by amazon
>>109926946that is the exact opposite of what I want to buy. I've melted through like 3 of those chairs and they only ever last a year or two. i finally have some money and want to buy something that's nice and will last.
>>109926954how fucking FAT are you
>>109926954How? Chairs last forever if you're under a certain weight
I have about 50 old 500gb EVO Samsung SSDs from work, can't sell em because I am worried about someone recovering customer info from them, what should I do with them, thinking of making like a big software raid drive for the fun of it
>>109926954well theyre as durable as gaming chair made by an american brand that ships chairs from chinabuy a specially made chair for fat people
So question How much slower is an HDD, even a performance one like a 7200 RPM, than an SSD? Asking for someone who wants to cheap out on an OS drive and combine OS and storage into one. I haven't used an HDD only computer in so long that I don't remember if it's even that bad if you use performance hardware.
>>109926961>>109926962I'm incredibly skinny but if you sit on these chairs for 6-8 hours a day the fabric starts stretching and the synthetic leather eventually tears and flakes off. Also the build quality is usually horrible and they have other problems, one of the chairs I bought had a metal rod that broke off on the right side of the backrest and collapsed it after 8 months. The last chair had the padding compress and the metal backbone started digging into my back after a year.
>>109926954here, it sounds like one of these chairs will be more your style
gaming at 1080p makes me feel like im a little bitch wearing a chastity cage
>>109926979https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcwi72qL5mQ
>>109926494https://youtu.be/DeumyOzKqgI?t=31We will stand tall, face it all, together
>>109926986>tears and flakes offI always buy cushioned fabric chairs for this reasonThey're also much cooler to sit on for hours
>>109926986you're giving your chairs a hard time by being so skinny, you should gain weight and grow a nice ass
>>109926986>I'm incredibly skinnyThis is your brain on copium.t. someone on a chinkshit office chair since 2021
>>109926986post the crease that forms when you pull your forearm up to your bicep
>>109926456The bubble won't pop, but every big lab is working on developing its own accelerators. There is a long queue or smaller labs (and Chinar) waiting for their turn to buy Nvidia GPUs, and Nvidia never increased production enough to create a crash even most if the big labs turn their back to it, but if their OpenAI, Anthropic and some other get their own TPU equivalent, it might still ease up the demand for Nvidia hardware. Unless big labs see it as a competitive advantage that their competitors cannot get the hardware they need, which would cause them to continue buying all of it.On an unrelated note, in 2023 I built a workstation around it having two 4090 GPUs. I just bought one because it was like $3k and waiting a bit would help me getting the second one cheaper. The only shops that still sell the one I want now have it for $14k. Any day now.
>>109926921either you buy ikea markus for 250, or buy a herman miller for 1.3k-1.4k€ eu and get a 12 year warranty, or you buy a 247 certified chair for control centers for like 2-3kor you take the steel framed kitchen chair pill
maybe I should've gone for Arctic's MX-7 instead...
>>109926921If you are buying a $600 chair because of your posture or your back, don't.Otherwise probably better deals but eh whatever
>>109927164I used the carbice ice pad and it was very easy to put on and does pretty well so far
>>109926273This year was straight awful for my PC building>270k plus had a defective IMC. Only first two dimm slots>3080 has a slightly longer pcie or something. Had to use a riser cable>my first ddr5 kit was stolen by someone jacking my package in February>bought a "new" sata ssd from Best Buy that's already crapping out (diagnostic tools say it's good)And then I bought ram and sold a stick (didn't use the right dimms originally, thought only one was working) and bought more again later (finally worked). FML. I should just sell my PC and go to console next gen
>>109927351most of those issues have all simple solutions if not properly diagnosed and you are the single consistent variable.
>>109927351what the fuck is IMC and dimm? 3080, what are you from, the future?SPEAK ENGLISH
>>109927164Y?
>>109927351project helix will save us surely
>>109927351You'll learn from all of this and it should go much smoother next time
>>109927363I did solve em all (that could be solved). The drive is definitely questionable. The IMC is a CPU defect. There were no bent pins on the socket and the CPU was pristine. The mounting hardware was also on properly and so was my aio cooler and both were adjusted multiple times. No dice. That fucking blows. I really need to scrap this build or sell the parts. I wanted local AI and two dimm slots only is ass
>>109927386I built 2 PCs and upgraded once before building this one. I got ROLLED. All of my bad karma in one year
>>109927396As in, this is my level of experience. I'm not that new
>>109927373apparently these expensive shits are real finnicky, not to mention - electrically conductive, enough that you're better off with traditional pastes
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3HWvdqWith ubuntu, goose, vllm, and SmolLM3 https://www.ti.com/tool/IWR6843AOPEVMGet two of these badboys, and a.i. said I could make my monitor look into my room in 3d. That way I can have my computer develop "Robot vision" with radar and be able to track me in the room while I give myself shape and dimensions to my baby a.i.s I'm gonna raise in a sandboxed VM.
i didnt expect the fans to be that loud all the timejust so you know im a retarded cuck but still what should i do should i fiddle with the bios or whatever or should i put the pc farther away from my eardrums ?
>>109927589Buy quite fans and put the computer further away from you
The FastCopy app is very handy if you need to transfer a bunch of files to a back up HDD.
>>109927410you should have gottered the 33mm one so it would fit entirely on top of the ihs without having any chance of making contact with anything it shouldnt.
>>109927600noted
US$600 - $900.Some video editing may be needed.I have no idea what I'm doing. Is it even worth it to build a budget pc? It's for a family member so it needs wifi. I always keep hearing that it's better to build since you and get better performance than a prebuilt but I can't even stay under the $700 limit since there's a Dell at costco they want.
>>109927845are you actually going to buy windows
>>109927862I don't how how to get it otherwise.
Novida is looking desperate lol
>>109927876buy cheaper copy of windows from an asian site, key reseller site like kinguinor use a script to get rid of watermark github.com/massgravel/Microsoft-Activation-Scripts
>>109927410I use one on my mini itx build because it was a bitch to put together all the tiny screws and things, it just works and I won't have to replace it
>>109927131Black compute is very much a thing roght now. There are data-centers setting on land without any power. Also half of these data-centers run on diesel... have you seen the price of diesel lately?
>>109927876I'd just use the script to get rid of the watermark and it also let's you customize the wallpaper like a legit copy would let you too bad you missed on jeffrey epstein's key with infinite uses
I'm actually excited for raptor lake next because I need to build a home server
So I bought the Noctua AIO, cause once I heard one exists and that it's supposedly really good, my horniness level for that thing shot through the roof. Yes I'm a Noctua fag, and I'm like the 1% out there who genuinely like their colors, so I don't give a shit about any black edition dogshit.That being said, I was using arctic LF III 420 and of course replaced it with the 420 Noctua thing + additional VRM fan.For 300 billion monetary units, I feel like it's not worth it. I tweaked it to have the same RPM as my old AIO, pump was running roughly the same (though the Noctua one can run a lot faster, but at high speeds it gives off a very annoying hum. On quiet and balanced you wont hear it, dont sperg out you autists).Yes it runs around 2-3 degrees cooler (though that is after replacing 2 year old paste with PTM), yes the whole thing is a bit quieter, but arctic is not known for low noise. But in hindsight, I wouldn't have paid that amount of money for it. I'll keep it inside, because I'm way too fucking lazy and having a replacement AIO with 4 years of warranty left just in case might be good.tl;dr: if you already have an arctic LF III AIO inside or sperg out about brown colors, don't replace it, unless you are fully autistic about the noise and a couple degrees.
>>109928019It's just a slight rebin of 14th gen i5/i7 and without a 8+16 SKU to replace the i9
>>109927845buy 11 pro retail instead.
>>109928042newly manufactured parts are always better even if specs are similar, for instance my new 5800x3d does -30 undervolt all cores, and it won't be plagued with the other raptor lake issues
>>109927845what will you do with the computer? just browse the internet? but a 3200g ryzen and be done with it
>>109928033The bottleneck is always going to be AMD's shitty heatspreaders, desu.You can only transfer heat so efficiently going through the thick IHS that AMD uses.
>>109928058ryzen cpus have been known for getting better the longer the production runs
>>109928058For raptorlake specifically that might be more trueIt just sucks that they aren't porting bartelettlake 12P over to consumer lga1700
i will never forgive myself for buying 32gb instead of 64 in 2024
>>109928719the one good thing about being a thirdie is that i can be guilty free from my build choices now i have a ryzen 5 9600x, a 9060xt (16gb) and 32gb ddr5 ramits not the greatest but i don't mind since i literally could not afford anything better
>>109928786im first world lower class and i have 9800x3d, 9070xt and 32gbddr5really not much different
>read news on 10070 XT>oh so much better, you rike better card? much process, better than 5090!>16 GBSeriously hope they won't fucking blunder like that
>>109928837That article is fake and gay, all of its claims are baseless speculation10070xt if it's based on AT2, will have a 192bit bus and only able to support 12/18gb if it uses 2 or 3gb gddr7 chips
>>10992871999% of gamers don't do or play anything which will come close to using 32gb ram.
>>109928786>>109928828I'm a mixed breed of 9800x3d, 9060xt and 32gb ddr5.
>>109929064firefox takes 5gb with no tabs openone roblox instance takes 1gb. i need atleast 30 roblox instances for my farm so i can make 1 dollar a dqay o algo per favor to feed my family
>>109926921I've never spent more than $100 on a chairBut I've bought 5 chairs in 5 years so....
>>109928837>Falling for radeon's BSlol every time
>>109929134I have like 20 chrome tabs open + YouTube video + Spotify + discord open while gaming and it uses about 20gb max
>>109929134I browse the web using chromium inside a VM with 4GB of RAM, works fine. A bit pointless to have more than 5 tabs in RAM, in all honesty.
Another crushing result for the 9070XT against the 5070Ti. :(
>>109926921honestly, just watch some office chair / ergonomic chair reviews. Many of them will tell you that these secret lab / gaming chairs are absolute ass, compared to just a regular ergonomic office chair.I've bitten the bullet on a HM (embody gaming). It's not gonna make fireworks fly out of your ass or make you feel like you're in heaven, but all the many options to adjust and overall comfyness, long warranty and quality can't be beat. Do I think it's worth 1-1500 bucks? Probably not. Is it one of the absolute best choices out there ever and thus can simply ask for the price premium, just like Noctua fans? Yes. There's really only 2-3 manufacturers of premium office chairs that are worth checking out and dishing so much money into.If you really wanna be cheap, buy a refurbished one or a 2nd hand one that's not been used for 1-2 years. Or some office closure sale.
>>109926273OP finally decided to put something based instead of lolicon
>>109929289>what the lack of Shader Execution Reordering does to a "modern" gpuit's just the starting chapters of regret for rdna4 buyersrdna5 will cause even more butthurt
>>109929289>A fucking remakeAnother crushing result for goyim
>>109929289>rt ultra+pt, 4k with performance upscaling>"Mom, look, 40 FPS, but at least we owned the chuds!"Impressive, very nice. Now let's see how majority of players would prefer to play it on their mainstream 27" 1440p monitors.
>>109929313Ergo chairs are mostly cope, just stand up for a few minutes every hour and perform some planks to strengthen your core.
>>109929289AMD's slower VRAM means it gets beaten by a 12GB card>9070 and 9070 GRE has a more modest gap between the two. I guess this is the power of GDDR6.
>>109929461>Majority.What's the market share of AMD again?
>>109929468its worse than that. rdna4 lacks several hardware features that nvidia has had for 2 generations now
>>109929483No idea, about 17% I guess.
>>109929530Not the majority then?
>>109929546I never said anything about GPUs and AMD in particular. What I did say though is that majority of mainstream gaming PCs have 27" 1440p displays.
>>109929461Majority of gamers play at 4k because of consoles and mainstream popularity of 4KTVs and monitors nowadays.
need more storage, what the fuck do I do? I was going to finally build a NAS but with current hardware prices it's probably not happeningI don't exactly need another SSD, it's mostly for media and pictures, but I also don't really want to go back to the noise of mechanical drivesshould I just get an external drive I can rip out the drive from down the line to use in a NAS? that way I could just keep it disconnected if I don't need it
>>109929570And run Nvidia cards from the 20XX series onwards and so have access to RT and DLSS...
>>109929461>Ultra (No PT)aka medium setting
>>109929584
>>109929595Not playing at 5K means you're playing on low settings
>>109929640Resolution is independent from graphical settings.
>>109929461>he boughted $800+ gpus to turn off ray tracingishygddt
>>109929644That's something someone who plays in low settings would say. Next up: 1080p is fine.
>>109929603that's several times as expensive per GB as an external HDD, plus I'd have to juggle several of them to match the capacityyou know I think I'm just gonna get the 4TB seagate and call it a day it's not actually that expensive
>>109929289oh no i cant play AAAslop on max settings
>>109929698why buy high end gpus if you dont want to play new games at the highest settings?
>>109929717many reasons
>>109926273Is there an audio included version of OP?
>>109929717How about playing games in 4K at 120fps
>>109929583>4k because of consolesconsoles will be upscaling from 720p you fucking dimwit>mainstream popularity of 4KTVs and monitors nowadays.4k monitors are not mainstream, where did you get this retardation from
>>109929763There's the same amount of 4K monitors as 1440p in my regional Amazon top 10 best sellers right now. >consoles will be upscaling from 720pThe 4k benchmark image posted here was using performance upscaling so I'm not talking about gaming at native 4k but the popularity of 4k displays. Hdmi 2.1 is a common gaming buzzword right now.
>>109929318Miku is a loli
>>109929717why use highest settings if you're not hitting 60 fps?
>>109929805That doesn't look like Miku
>>109929820Its Miku https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ObvFPLk8eI
>>109929842Where is the smacking scene? I want the OP video
>>109929875Thats AIslop duh
>>109927589Test out the fan noise levels @ different RPMs through the BIOS or fan control apps.Refer to this BIOS fan curve guide if you don't know where to start.https://support.arctic.de/en/pwm-settings>>109928033>Yes it runs around 2-3 degrees cooler (though that is after replacing 2 year old paste with PTMThere's still another 2~3°C to gain from the PTM curing process, phase change TIMs need to go through a bit thermal cycling to settle in.>>109929584>need more storage, what the fuck do I do?You take it in the ass.
>>109929717he wanna make AI pornos>>109929722lying twat
Building your own PC in 2026 is stupid. You will save money buying a prebuilt.
>>109929289
>>109929289>>109930183Can't believe the difference between 23 and 40fps was only $150 a year ago lol
>>109930164when you type systeminfo in cmd it doesn't call your prebuilt your name it calls it dells computer.
>>109930183>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Windows 10/11
There's a reason CS2 & Deadlock & Dota2 are DX11 & Vulkan only. DX12 was a mistake.
>>109930215How well does it run on tranix?
>>109930131https://youtu.be/ueEc_YBXmeY
>>109930223you cant fix a DX12 game by switching your OS
>>109930207Yeah but the parts are still the parts, you can do what you want with them
>>109930223>>109930243 is correct. With explicit APIs its up to the dev to improve performance not the driver. DX11 is implicit API so the driver can improve it and so can DXVK.
>>109930246dell\alienware uses proprietary parts
>>109930207Guess I've got no choice but to change my legal name to Dell
put rgb in my pc for the first time because i upgraded and all my components matcham i trans now
>>109929645yes120 > 60 fps
>>109930287You are transhuman now
>Want to build a second pc so I can separate private life and work. >I have anime porn and vidya in the same computer I use to work. >Not good. >Dont even need something strong since it is webshit and some smallish java projects. >Even the shitty optiplexes my workplace buys in bulk are through the roof. This is going to get normal once again, right?I have a T15 I accidenrally bought that I keep around for emergencies but prices have to become affordable at some point, right?I cant even move from AM4 to AM5 because 32gb of RAM costs more than the fucking CPU.
>>109930231Man this guy is still whining?
>>109930341Buy a 1tb ssd and dual boot?
>>109930273Windows can detect system integrators and do their own tweaks so you aren't getting the same experience as someone who custom build theirs.
>>109930260The expensive stuff is still swappable, mb, psu, cooling systems might need to be swapped but for the dollar amount a prebuilt is still very viable, imo.
>>109930371He's pointing out very crucial stuff, many companies that supply pc parts are in jeopardy because of the restrictive costs of gpu's and memory. this will be an issue soon because it won't be how expensive things are, it will be that they aren't available anymore.
>>109930541He's just whining for clicks.It's all just doomposting for activists who want to be angry at nothing all the time.
>>109930745>Hes whining for clicksRetard. Look at his viewer counts. Its down before the pricepocalypse. If he desperate for clicks he can make easy bait videos
>>109930378I dont want all the pirated shit I download to share hardware with the work files that contain sensitive info and access credentials.
>>109930371>>109930745When owning a PC soon will no longer exist, he has a right to complain.
>>109930872>PC SOON WILL NO LONGER EXIST>Meanwhile PCs are still remarkably cheap for what they are.Shit was worse during crypto. The entire industry did not collapse.It's not going to collapse now because 5080s are $1600 instead of $1200.
>>109930183Nothing on this picture is playable. I would take 60 FPS (49 FPS 1%) as passable if it was performed by 3090ti without upscaling at all. Thought people here have highter standards than console peasants.
>>109930894Anon this was WORSE than Crypto and 90s - early 00s PCs COMBINED. Reminder a PC costs $10000 back in 90s. And now a PC costs $20000
>>109930913You can buy a pc that 100x more powerful than one from the early 00s for like 200$
>>109930930>Missed the pointRetard
>>109930894No that was GPU driven and Nvidia shat on consumers to focus on enterprise equipment, but it was phase one of the plan to get people to migrate to consoles, this time it is memory and GPUs and the price points are exceptionally restrictive, they are forcing people to the cloud based subscriptions, and this isn't going to get better, it's designed to get worse especially if you have any intentions of having a local AI which they are desperately trying to stop because that is why they have secured investments for the datacenters, but trimmed down AI is now within people's reach and the hardware is being used to keep them out.
>>109930930software is also 100x slower so it evens out
>>109930896VRR makes low fps playable unless you fell for the bad OLED firmware meme
>>109930938so true, the bloat is real
>>109930935The point is that you're a million year old piece of outdated farm equipment.
>>109930938Just disable ray tracing and then it's only 50x slower.
>>109930894At least everything else other than the GPU and psu was cheap back thenNow, every bloody part costs more
>>109930974Just look outside.There's things like starlink crowding the night sky. This isn't tye same world it once was. These computers are not comparable to their counterparts from the 00s, just like pcs from the 00s weren't like pcs from the 70s.
I barely use my gaming computer. The specs were decent when I built it:>RTX 4090>i9-13900k>64GB DDR5>dual 4TB M.2, gen 5I'm considering moving the RAM and one SSD to my server PC and selling the rest. My server has an RTX 3060 12GB (enough for the rare game I play these days) and I have a DGX Spark for AI.Tell me why I shouldn't sell at today's prices.
>>109930937>Memory prices are out of control!!!11>Look inside>32GB is more than enough for non-productivity tasks>$450Come on man. I'm not going to pretend this is good. Or that it's not a big deal. Or that the days of cheap memory weren't really good days. But it's not that big of a deal. Anyone building a PC was budgeting about $300-400 for RAM anyway. It's just now you get less of it. Close some chrome tabs or something, you're just not going to see a difference in gaming between having 128GB and 32GB.
>>109931013You'll likely never have anything more powerful than a 4090 for the next decade if you sell it. You'll never get as good of a price for compute as you did then.Maybe you're right. There's good reason to not own something like that, but the catch is that you already own it. If I truly doesn't give you joy then dump it on somebody who can use it for ai without a second thought. Money is good and if you need to eat that 4090 could possibly feed you through a multi0le of means but selling it would be the easiest and most profitable in the short term.
>>109931023If you're not a competitive gaming shitter, you can score a 5700x + 3200cl16 ram for cheap, call it an opportunity to finally upgrade to 4K gaming
>Silverstone SM61-312Last year I was gifted what looks to be an excellent case for my new home server/NAS build. I have a handful of SATA 8TB white label WD/HGST drives I picked up over the past few years, around 4-6 of them or so. The question however is apparently this case has a faster and more performant SAS capable backplane >Internal backplane supports 12-port SAS / SATA drives and features 12 Gb/s Mini-SAS HD SFF-8643 connectors along with SGPIO compatibilityand I've not worked with SAS before. I'm pretty sure that my SATA drives should not be a problem in and of themselves, but I wonder if its worth it to procure some SAS drives too. I know the backplane supports SAS, but do I also need to buy an expansion card / PCI-E if my motherboard does not offer onboard SAS ports (which I am guessing most consumer boards do not support native)? Can SATA and SAS coexist on this backplane or does it basically push everything down to SATA speed or otherwise only partially/incompatible?
>>109931064the cost savings from sticking to am4 are worthless if you have to spend on a 4k capable gpu instead
lol if your 4090 dies vendors won't repair or give you a new one. They downgrade you to a 5080.
>>109931013>The specs were decent when I built itit's still a good pc now. the 4090 is still the second best gpu.
>>109931001Every part that exists today is a minor upgrade from what was available in 2021
>>109927372>average /g/ - technology user's technological literacy post-2016 and post-ai boom>>109930894>pcs are still cheapYou are absolutely full of shit.
>>109931013there is a non zero chance that's the last consumer hardware you'll own for the rest of your life
>>109931105PCs are a very cheap hobby compared to everything else and what it does.
>>109931107We'll always have MIPS shitboxes from China.
>>109931130Stop playing pretend for attention.>hurr durr cars are more expensiveIs not a valid defense for skyrocketing component prices.
>>109931130That would be fine if rent, food and water hasn't also skyrocketed in price Agenda 2030 is in full swing and we're all frogs in a boiling pot unless you're not goyim
>>109931048>You'll never get as good of a price for compute as you did then.>>109931107Wish we had a crystal ball to know the answer on price trends. I really don't use it anymore, it sits sleeping for all but maybe 4 hours a month. The only reason I didn't sell already is it keeps gaining value instead of losing it as it gets older. I don't need the money, but I want max value while I can get it.Last I checked, I can get an entire RTX 5070 Ti prebuilt for what just the 4090 is worth on eBay, so it's starting to feel silly to sit on it. And I figure if I really want more gaming power just in case, I can swap the server's RTX 3060 for a 5070 (I want the low idle power).
>>109931152Cars are actually cheaper these days. But, sure. If your hobby is cars, $5K a year is pretty standard.
>>109931170There won't be any high-end GPU released next year so your 4090 will continue to get more valuable since it's priced as such for its ability to support 48gb of vram
>>109931179>Cars are actually cheaper these days.My hobby is cars, this isn't remotely true. Everything I was watching and considering buying doubled in price from late 2025 to today.>But, sure. If your hobby is cars, $5K a year is pretty standard.That's a crazy amount of money to budget. My most expensive car to maintain is a hand-built Italian, and it needed a once-in-a-decade major service last year. That required transporting it out of state and leaving it with a specialist for two weeks. That was a $5k bill. Other years are much cheaper, unless you're counting insurance in your calculation. The cost of owning that car averages to maybe $1k/year even if you include the $5k bill. Even the more expensive cars I've considered, such as McLarens, are sub-$5k/yr for annual maintenance.
>>109931236>It's cheap if you don't count the consumables needed to use it. Well... Yeah...
>>109931194>There won't be any high-end GPU released next yearThis is a good point. Even if I don't use it, I suppose the value should at least maintain going into next year.Thanks for the help, I needed a second opinion sanity check. I think I'm going to harvest the RAM and non-OS SSD for my server and sell off everything but the RTX 4090 for now. It can sit in its box on a shelf until either I decide I need it again, or prices start to finally dip and I sell.
>>109929289What does that even matter? The 5070TI costs $1200 now and the 9070XT costs like $800. Besides I thought HUB said the 9070XT equivalent is the 5060TI 16GB now anyway. https://youtu.be/17B2Kh6U2sk
>>109929289>59 fps for a 5090 are we deadass
>>109929289>23 fpsHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAPATH TRACING IS 4 YEARS OLDRAY TRACING IS 10 YEARS OLD HOW IS AMD STILL SHITTING THIS OUT HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>109931303GPU is like gold nowadays. Keep holding what you got because 5090 could reach $20000 at this rate
>>109931416>Double the performance >For only 50% more moneyPretty good value, desu.
sup /pcbg/what do you think? something missing, something wrong?Europoor, Belgium. Can get a few hundreds more for budget.1 × Fractal Design North Mesh Midi-Tower (561315)1 × AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D - 8 cores, 16 threads (559239)1 × Thermal Grizzly Polartherm, (561126)1 × Silentware Bora RGB, 1x 120 mm (567924)1 × AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT, 16 Go GDDR6 - Asus Prime OC (565988)1 × MSI Pro B850-S WIFI6E (567580)1 × 32 GB DDR5 (2x 16 GB), 6000 MHz, CL 30 - Patriot Viper Venom (565867)1 × 1000 Go NVMe PCle 4.0 Black SN7100 (565609)1 × be quiet! System Power 11 B 750 watts Gold \ (565646)for 2171€
>>109929461>$800 TO PLAY AAA SLOP AT 1440P NATIVE lol i'll never understand the amdrone brain
>>109929584>need more storage, what the fuck do I do?You buy itThat's it
>>109931452>9070XTI would not.
>>109931452I would get fatter PSU.
>>109931452Fractal Summit is the newer case with better chassis (front panel fan slits don't impede airflow).Duronaut might be better than Polartherm.This Fractal Ion 3 850W is good and relatively affordable in Belgium, got 3x 6+2 PCIe cables for the 9070 XT OC card.https://be.pcpartpicker.com/product/VfgZxr/fractal-design-ion-3-gold-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-fd-p-ia3g-850
>>109931452>MSI Pro B850-S WIFI6EThe Mobo has a bit of a mediocre VRM, if you care about that. Big hardware unboxed motherboard comparison (gets saved as webp and 4shit won't take it):https://www.techspot.com/articles-info/3050/bench/2025-11-06-image.jpg
https://github.com/sdli1995/dlssg_for_sm86/blob/main/README.en.mdwhats your thoughts on 30xx gpus being able to do 4x frame gen, but nvidia opted not to make it happen for 6 years after launch
>>109932673Frame generation isn't good enough in its current state to care about it.This includes Intel & AMD's implementation.
>>109932711what do you mean, it literally adds more frames into ur games for cheap
>been using 1440p monitor for a while now>occasionally play games on my 4k TV>my brother gave me his old 144hz 1080p VA monitor, because he bought an OLED>mfw I see for the first timeI can't believe people still use 1080p for games, shit is literally unusable, no sign of sharpness.
>>1099327271080p is great on small screens like handhelds. But I agree, there's no reason to bother anymore for something monitor-sized.
>>109932727I can't stand 1440p in monitors bigger than 24", at this point.
>>109932787Mine is 27", I guess it's still okay, but above that 4k is a must.
I havent used 1080p for over a decade but having recently gotten 32" 4k display the difference between that and 1440p 27" is less than going to 1440p from 1080pand games run easier on it, 32" is a bit large for having it arms length away during games, 27" 1440p is the sweet spot
>>109932723There are places where you can notice the fake frames, the UI/HUD for example.It leaves haze/foggy trails as well.
>>109932811Try 27" 4k.
>>10993281132" is ridic, I already use my 27" monitor as 2x 1920x2160 monitors glued together, pretty much. Even in videogames I catch myself looking around by rotating the game camera rather than looking to the sides of the screen.
>>109932867The fsr dlss implementations are meant to not interpolate the ui elements
>>109932916It falls apart at 4x and 2x at a lesser extent.You can stay ignorant, NVIDIA and everyone else are counting on that.
>>109932947thats not an ui element, just an artifact you barely see because you have a new frame each 5 ms or so
>>109932954That's a motorcycle's HUD element.You can settle for that level of image quality, don't impose your slop standard to me.If it's noticeable, it's failed.
>>109932970now post a video of it running at 200 fps
>>109932976So people shouldn't use PT + 4x ~ 6x MFG? Maybe even DLSS5 included? Where's the consistency in marketing?Not everyone deep throats marketing shill like (You). Just agree to disagree and fuck off.
>>109932990Im not sure what are you mad aboutthat people play games with fg with 200 fps without pt or what
>>109933002No one here's angry, you just have low standards for what you pay for.You do you.
>>109926600fake news.vulkan runs better than rocm
>>109933016it is up to everyones decision if they prefer better motion clarity at the price of some artifacts and input lag, it is better to have that option
>>109933066Then drop this conversation. FG has noticeable flaws.Until it ever reaches "better than native" quality, there will be plenty people who treat it as a last resort to boost FPS.
>>109926273https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTuq-9ktp9Yhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTuq-9ktp9Yhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTuq-9ktp9Y
>>109930222all of those games suck
>>109933105just to make sure have you actually played a whole game with dlss frame gen
>>109933114Don't act like the imperfections magically resolve by themselves towards the end of a game.Imagine defending a visually flawed feature this persistently.NVIDIA doesn't even disclose how many people regularly toggle on FG, they've shared the percentages for the other DLSS techs (Super Resolution, RT, & Reflex).Because the FG usage figures probably isn't that impressive.
i think theres room to discuss (not from me at least) goyscaling but goyframes? youre literally blind and/or a jeet if you like this literal dogshit>brrr numger goes up= unga bunga good
>>109933105Im not anon you were having conversation withlast resort fps boost is worst use because how latency adds upit is best used as cheap improvement of motion resolution, if you have 5090 and 500hz oled monitor, you use it to pump fps to increase motion clarity
>>109933152So you're lecturing peope playing games with fg from the perspective of a youtube video viewer who fanatically hates nvidia for some reason.
>>109933226I own an RTX card and used FG, it's not good enough. Period.>franatically hates nvidiaI said Intel & AMD's FG are imperfect as well.>So you're lecturing peope playing games with fg You're the one who's doing the lecturing to me, that the imperfections don't matter.If it's noticeably bad, it's not worth using. Agree to disagree and move on.I'm not trying to convince any of you FG slop enjoyers. Do whatever the fuck you want on your own system.Just don't act surprised when others have higher image quality standards.
So I know the timing is shit. But I really want to upgrade my decrepit GTX 1070 Ti paired to I7 7700Porbably gonna use linux mint or steam OS for gaming. I dont like windows 11 in the slightest and for the first time in my life Im ready to do the big jump.I have a 2560X1440 LCD monitor 60hz that I want to keep using. Im planning to spend between 1500 to 2000 euros.What does that get me nowadays?
>>109933210>increase motion clarityExcept they add trailing imperfections, even on minor activities like crossing a sidewalk.You guys want to stay oblivious to these things, that's fine.I'm not saying FG will never improve, but it's not even at DLSS2 Super Resolution quality at this pt.
>>109933317your best value gpu with current inflated prices is 5070am5 system price is a bit inflated from the ddr5 pricing, so instead of paying 100€ for 32gb ram its 400€nvmes are somewhat overpriced too so some people settle for 1tb cheapo drives and upgrade laterso am5 mobo, 32gb ddr5, maybe zen 6 cpu if you wait till 2027, 7800x3d otherwise = 850€5070 gpu 750€750-850w atx 3.1 psu = 120€meshify 3 case = 150€1tb ssd 150€cpu cooler 50€ plus you likely want to upgrade the monitor to >360hz qd oled which is additional 500
>>109933322to me personally the benefits of increased motion resolution far outweigh minor artifacts as long as input lag hit isnt very high, it really depends on the game
>>109933375And I'll discard that opinion of yours.
>>109933358>5070 gpu 750€Checking now the prices in italy are already 800 + euro, I dont know if its due to different VAT, but fuck me....Overall very solid suggestion, thanks.
>>109932954>You barely seeHave you tried paying attention? I suspect anyone pumping out nvidia "features" has motion blindness (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akinetopsia) and thus they don't see the ghosting and the noise artifacts.
>>109933398People tend to post prices that are like 10-20% lower than what you'd get out there in the wild, don't let it bother youAlso make sure to check prices daily if you're trying to maximize gains, the same PC components I bought a few days ago are also like 10-20% more expensive now
if amd gpus are good why is no one buying
>>109933643most people are also using windows...
>>109933643"$50 cheaper than Nvidia" isn't really going to cut it with the current prices
>>109933643in previous gens DLSS just utterly raped and gaped amdall AAA games supported upscaling outside of japanFSR 2 image quality was literal garbage, so you either buy nvidia and get the correct end result or you "save money" buying amd and get 5 years of shit graphics or play at native at 50% worse fps than nvidia at equivalent image quality. So, 90% nvidia marketshare9070 xt finally fixed upscaling, and amd marketshare got better
>>109933643because i already own a 7900xtx
seems like some of the b650 and b650m is out of production now, so grab one before they sell out if you want to be able to use wifi and bluetooth on win 10
>>109933643People dont use their GPU solely for Video Games
>>109933718Out of curiocity, what's so special about wifi and bluetooth on B650 which is not present on B850?
>>109933743wifi 6 vs wifi 7, they refused to make drivers for wifi 7 on win 10
>>109933743it's just more cope by wintards
>>109933643amazon.de top search results:5070: 200 sold/mo5070 ti: 100 sold/mo9070 xt: 1000 sold/mo
>>109933643Being slightly cheaper than Nvidia isn't really worthwhile in the days of DLSS and raytracing.Being a bit slower or a bit jankier with drivers is one thing. Missing features is a whole different thing.
>>109933856
>Nvidia launches record $150bn share buyback>Nvidia is now authorised to spend up to $235bn on share buybacks before January 2028.jfc jensen is making so much money they can do this shit. That stock value is going to rise even more. This shit is ridiculous. The prices will never go down.
>>109933685>>109933857>>109933741but AMDGODS told me FSR/RocM is closing the gap now with maybe enough tinkering
>>109934345RHI app is popular among amdgods so they can cope with the deficiencies of owning amd
Should I buy the wire view pro II Noctua edition?It's going to be a long winter in the gpu world and I'm wondering if I should get the extra protection for my ever increasing investment
>>109934382Yes
Any recommendations on a 27 inch or less 4k monitor? I'm looking to move on from a 27inch 1440p one that feels too large for its resolution.
Things are dire in the market, and I just really want a GPU upgrade from my 3060 Ti since I just finally bought a 1440p monitor.How bad of a pickup is grabbing a used 12GB 3080 for $300? Only other real option is a new 5070 for $1000~
>>109934618i don't feel sorry for novideo goym
>>109934618it might be worth it if you can tolerate the risksreselling old gpu and so ona 5070 is inflated that high? If it was around 750 it might be worth buying
>>109934632Yeah, 5070s have gotten super inflated recently. I opted for buying the mobo + CPU for a new build first, and that was clearly a mistake on my end.
>>109934618At $300, there's nothing that comes close to that
>>109926273Ummm, now what?
>>109934772wait for memory crisis to endsub to geforce now
>>109933805My b850 box says wifi7 im sure it did. Nah, wifi 6e lol
I've got 2x48gb 5600 ddr sodimms. Thinking about selling them for my new build, but I would probably only get 64GB due to the price. Feels pretty painful. They make those sodimm to dimm adapters, but they seem kind of jank. What would you do?
>>109934610 (me) Also my pricepoint is less than $600
>>109934618>5070 for $1000Why not a 5070 Ti for about $100 more?
>>109934772They'll add a small 40mm fan and call it the palit gamerocker occ edition that goes for $1500
>>109934905See>>109934772
>>109934772Now if your card breaks SCAN will give you a similar but slightly 5070Ti.Manufacturers tend to discontinue more expensive production lines in order to optimise more lucrative ones.
>>109935104There are dozens of models in stock even on Newegg.
