Best: >Macbook proGood:>Macbook air>Thinkpad>Framework>Surface laptopOk:>Matebook>Lenovo (other than thinkpad)Bad:>Dell>HPHaha fuck off:>Acer>Anus
>inb4 mac le bad because you can't upgrade ram ssd etcYou can't upgrade to the next generation of RAM or the next generation of PCIe connection to your nvme stick(s). so it doesn't really matter. what matters is1. does your laptop have good specs2. is it built like a tank rather than like a flimsy brittle piece of shit
>>109932969Also, soldered memory isn't that bad compared to some of the other bullshit you might see. I've seen a laptop with an NVMe stick with a PCIe to SATA adapter. who the fuck does that? you lose all the benefits of PCIe
macs suck because macos sucks
>>109932898Install Gentoo
>>109933218for linux users yes, but having 8gigs on pajeetos is like having 80gigs on linux
Elitebooks with Ryzen CPUs and DDR5 ram sticks are fine though
>>109932898
>>109933237macos is just linux with a good desktop environment
>>109932898>Best: Macbook proOverpriced, overheating, underpowered, retarded widescreen, retarded notch to make it even worse, FagOS, Apple's prison, bad keyboard, one single port, made to live only three years, impossible to upgrade or repair...
>>109933517that's actually windows. WSL does everything you need out of linux.
>>109933663since when is the windows DE good?
>>109933636I'm using my macbook air m1 16/512 daily for programming. It runs our whole stack locally, two browsers + headless browsers for testing, vscode with a shitload of extensions, my clanker sessions, all smooth. It's a 6 years old laptop, the battery still mogs every other laptop, the screen and the speakers still mog your chinktop. No other brand offers this level of quality. I received my new MacBook pro m5 (pro) for work and haven't switched yet, it's not like I'm in a hurry.
>>109933636sine when are MacBook pros underpowered lmao
Thinkpad T420
>>109933895>no usbc>16gb ddr3 ram>no nvme>sub-fhd screen>cpu mogged by a $200 smartphonecomplete shit in the big 26
>>109933999>no usbcirrelevant>16gb ddr3 ramvalid complaint>no nvmevalid complaint>sub-fhd screenirrelevant>cpu mogged by a $200 smartphonevalid complaintLaptop ergonomics peaked in 2012. Everything that came after just feels awful to use.I wish laptops like the T420 were still being made but with modern internals.
>>109933316yeah I have a couple Dell Latitude laptops and they're pretty goodthe machines that HP and Dell sell by the pallet to businesses may as well be from a different company than the dogshit they sell via walmart etc.
>>109932898God: GoogleBook
I’m trying to buy a laptop for my boomer mom, she needs something to catalog images, keep spreadsheets, and general admin work. We’re trying to spend around $700What should I be looking for and what should I avoid?
>>109932898If a Macbook is the best, I don't even want a laptop.
>>109934165Just get her a Mac Neo.
I've been using picrel (i9-14900HX and 4080) for a couple years and it's been great.Applekeks need no apply.
>>109932898>Framework>Goodno.
>>109934190she wants a windows machine
>>109934353Just shoot her in the head bro
holy shit I really haven't been paying attention. I genuinely cant bring myself to submit my work laptop refresh pick that is budgeted $2k because all the fucking windows systems at this price are capping out at 32GB of RAM and non-H or X processors with fucking 1200p IPS panels and virtually all shipping from third party chink resellers whether shopping amazon or bestbuy.its really this bad?I got a Dell XPS 15 2 years ago for $2k that I'd be replacing but it came with 1TB SSD, i9 13900H, 32GB DDR5, 4k OLED, and a fucking RTX 4060.Nothing comes close to matching it, even bumping spend to $2500.im unironically bout to tell my boss I'll pass on it this time round. fucking grim
>>109933663>that's actually windowswindows desktop is a huge pile of bloated garbage made of electron >WSL does everything you need out of linux not even close
>>109932969>1. does your laptop have good specsIt won't in a few years. That's when you upgrade, which you can do with a macbook, you retarded inigger.
>>109934226i don't understand why lenovo still makes thinkpadsthey cost basically the same as legions while running on an igpu, their build quality isn't any better, legion has better ports (and on the back too) and the display is worse too
>>109934577apparently legions have less ram (big deal if you're running a language server or something). they're also fatter than a p14 or p16 afaik. also aesthetics.
Chromebooks > Dell > Hp and Macs > shit > AcerFUCK Acer
>All the laptops with matte displays are the most expensive
macs have:>soldered SSD/RAM/WLANdoesnt exist on 99% of PCs>when pajeetOS runs out of RAM it swapfile rapes the SSD to death within 3 yearsdoesnt exist on 99% of PCs>when the SSD dies it bricks your entire currybook because the EFI is stored on the soldered SSD to save $0.05 on a dedicated chipdoesnt exist on 99% of PCs>components serial numbered and tied to the motherboard to prevent repair and replacement (including battery)doesnt exist on 99% of PCs>riveted keyboard that requires total destruction of the chassis to replacedoesnt exist on 99% of PCs>flexgate cables that are so brittle they crack from opening your screen past 90 degrees more than 2 dozen timesdoesnt exist on 99% of PCs>screens so fucking shit they have over 90ms response times (essentially 10Hz)doesnt exist on 99% of PCs>screen made from pajeet trash glass that cracks from temperature change in seasons or tape over the iBotnet webcamdoesnt exist on 99% of PCs>so fire and explosion prone the FAA have banned them from all flightsdoesnt exist on 99% of PCs>uses phone CPU that's so shit it gets destroyed by decade old i3s from 2017 and can only "compete" by cheating at benchmarks in extreme edge cases with hardware acceleratorsdoesnt exist on 99% of PCs>curryniggers at apploo get so full of sniffing their own currynigger silicon shit they ship currybooks with no fans and they run so hot they melt the keyboard keysdoesnt exist on 99% of PCs>keyboards with 63.5% failure rateunheard of on PCs, and yet you curryniggers defend it with "jus werx fer me!"just because you're in the 36.5% survivor group doesn't make your currynigger trash any goodthis list goes on foreverthere's no PC laptop as total fucking currynigger shit as crapple's streetshitter booksthey are the biggest heaps of steaming currynigger shit in the history of computing second only to curryPhones
>>109935106Not to mention that matte layer is very susceptible to scratch.
>>109934577Because workstation laptop is made with worker drone in mind. Specifically better warranty OOTB to ensure higher uptime.You need to pay a lot of money on a Legion just to get the same warranty.
>>109935190and yet macs are better than the steaming piles of crap that other companies sell on the consumer market. if you had ever disassembled a few pcs you would know
>>109932898>currybook>bestpoo in the loo ijeet
>>109935728get a toilet street shitteryour currynigger trash cant even beat an intlel N95
>>109935728macs are the biggest heaps of steaming currynigger shit in the history of computing second only to curryPhones. if you had ever shat in a toilet you would know
>>109933663WSL2 is broken to the point of being totally unusable. Wangblows 11 itself is filled with poo and constantly does shit like corrupt your disk or self-bricks.>>109933517See >>109933241
>>109935728Sadly I have to agree today. I have a work mac but would never buy one myself. Ignoring the price, everything is either a mac or a low quality chinesium mac clone.
>>109932898MACOS > LINUX >>>>> WINSLOP
>>109935190this kills the currynigger
Where's my LG gram :)
>>109936122>Worst Korea makes a laptopSmell like Mossad
>>109934353Based mom rejecting the inferior OSs
>>109935071My experience with Acer is honestly much better than Dell/HP
>>109933326ITODDLERS BTFO KEK
>>109935728I've disassembled laptops for work and I'd never buy a toddlerbook that's made to be as closed down as possible. Also at no point in the history of Apple have they cared about having strong cooling. All the way from their first computers ever. They are definitely not well engineered.
>>109934839you can just shove in your own sticks if you wantthey have x2 nvme slots too
>>109932898>Framework>Good
>>109936501This>extremely overpriced>no replacement parts of interest yet>flimsy>no physical buttons for trackpad and no 3rd party option for it>>>/trash/
>>109936525>extremely overpricedEverything is these days but even before the ram price hikes not really.Especially with the displays they provide.>no replacement parts of interest yetwhat do you mean. >no physical buttons for trackpad and no 3rd party option for itif you want a worse trackpad make one.
>>109936621>Everything is these days but even before the ram price hikes not really.Which is why I make these statemements relatively. It is 3x the price of the same laptop with the same specs elsewhere. It is about the same price as a somewhat equivalent or slightly worse macbook.>what do you mean.Suppose your mobo break, you can get a new one that's exactly the same. That's about it. No sidegrades.It's more blatant with the backslot that can be upgraded with a single gpu but only on the biggest model.There is virtually 0 3rd party parts market and no real used parts market either, so you pay full price at max premium for anything.>if you want a worse trackpad make one.It has the worst trackpad of any laptop ever made, period. And unless your technical prowess are limited to facebook posting, there isn't a single touchpad without physical buttons that is even remotely usable anyway.
>>109936288https://desuarchive.org/g/search/image/J38cdvu2XfF2JiSfOAd8EA/
>>109932898I'd pick flagship elitebook over Surface craps any given day
>>109936647>It is 3x the price of the same laptop with the same specs elsewhereCPU is not what makes a laptop expensive. its mostly the peripherals.You can have a nice GPU and surround it with some piece of shit display and plastic. Framework does not do that.>Suppose your mobo break, you can get a new one that's exactly the same. That's about it. No sidegrades.It's a motherboard with a CPU on it. It doesn't come with storage, or ram or even a wifi chip.What features exactly do you want? Intel and AMD keep the features the same on each generation of hardware.You will most likely just get an upgrade that does things like run better like with the new raptor lake chips.>It has the worst trackpad of any laptop ever made, period. And unless your technical prowess are limited to facebook posting, there isn't a single touchpad without physical buttons that is even remotely usable anyway.there's a reason why apple's design won but unemployed retards on /g/ wont like it.
>>109936742>raptor lakemeant panther lake.they deliver extremely good performance and battery life.
>>109936742>Framework does not do that.framework literally does that.>What features exactly do you want?Obviously, a wide range of mobos. What if I want to buy a mobo with soldered ram or one without soldered ram or one with a better cooling-optimized design or a smaller one because it's compatible with an oversized module or a larger one because it's needed for a card I want to slot in.Similar for all the components. There are no options and no market. It's all a meme.>there's a reason why apple's design wonWe're through here, you're obviously a tech illiterate jeet.
>>109934226>10nm dual channel ram e-wastelol
>>109936750>good performanceperformance of a macbook neo but priced as a macbook pro
>>109936884And the build quality of a dell inspiron
>>109934063>I wish laptops like the T420 were still being made but with modern internals.Not cheap, but check out the x210ai and other projects by TP Art.
>>109936660As you can see from the filename this site is where I got it from. But those previous posts aren't me if that's what you're implying.Also I found the article with a 2 second google search proving that it's not fabricated. https://www.techspot.com/news/102227-m3-based-macbook-air-hits-114-degrees-celsius.html
>>109932898>Good>Framework>Surface laptopLmao, jeet thread
>>109933241>loonix needs 80gb to compete with macos with 8gboh no no no no
>>109933517>a good desktop environmentosx UI stalled about 10 years ago. Ubuntu is unironically better now.
>>109933316That vram locked to 512mb fucking sucks
>Mac Neo>only 512Go maxOk I guess I could use an external drive if I really need to. >only 8 gigs of RAMWhat the fuck, lads?Anyway, which Mac should I get (13" or 14") that isn't a total piece of shit? It doesn't have to be the latest model but if I could run a mid-tier LLM model locally it would be nice.
>>109932898>Framework
Just bought a macbook neo, it's nice and a bit fast compared to my old laptop but I think I genuinely prefer shitdows as an os.
>>109942915You've used Windows for decades. I'm sure you'll get used to macOS.
>>109942971Yeah, I'm just used to windows. I'll stick with it and see how it goes, maybe return it for something else if I don't like it after all, not too likely though. Was considering an omnibook at one point too.
>>109932898I have had my hp laptop for 6 years and it just werks and gets the job done…nothing to complain about
>>109943073Same but for longer, in my case it was just time to try something new desu.
>>109935190>>109933241>curryniggers actually defend this heap of street shit
>>109933636>made to live only three yearsMy macbook pro from 2012 still works.
>>109943975macs have:>soldered SSD/RAM/WLANdoesnt exist on 99% of PCs>when pajeetOS runs out of RAM it swapfile rapes the SSD to death within 3 yearsdoesnt exist on 99% of PCs>when the SSD dies it bricks your entire currybook because the EFI is stored on the soldered SSD to save $0.05 on a dedicated chipdoesnt exist on 99% of PCs>components serial numbered and tied to the motherboard to prevent repair and replacement (including battery)doesnt exist on 99% of PCs>riveted keyboard that requires total destruction of the chassis to replacedoesnt exist on 99% of PCs>flexgate cables that are so brittle they crack from opening your screen past 90 degrees more than 2 dozen timesdoesnt exist on 99% of PCs>screens so fucking shit they have over 90ms response times (essentially 10Hz)doesnt exist on 99% of PCs>screen made from pajeet trash glass that cracks from temperature change in seasons or tape over the iBotnet webcamdoesnt exist on 99% of PCs>so fire and explosion prone the FAA have banned them from all flightsdoesnt exist on 99% of PCs>uses phone CPU that's so shit it gets destroyed by decade old i3s from 2017 and can only "compete" by cheating at benchmarks in extreme edge cases with hardware acceleratorsdoesnt exist on 99% of PCs>curryniggers at apploo get so full of sniffing their own currynigger silicon shit they ship currybooks with no fans and they run so hot they melt the keyboard keysdoesnt exist on 99% of PCs>keyboards with 63.5% failure rateunheard of on PCs, and yet you curryniggers defend it with "jus werx fer me!"just because you're in the 36.5% survivor group doesn't make your currynigger trash any goodthis list goes on foreverthere's no PC laptop as total fucking currynigger shit as crapple's streetshitter booksthey are the biggest heaps of steaming currynigger shit in the history of computing second only to curryPhones
>>109932898>Framework>MicrosoftGet these jeet fucks out of my tier list
>>109935190>screens so fucking shit they have over 90ms response times (essentially 10Hz)First i've heard of this.
>ROG Scar>Lenovo LegionWhich one of these is least niggerish?
>>109944712
>>109936852what's wrong with the ram?
>>109932898Does anyone here have a framework? Why’d you get it? I don’t really understand what the use case is for it. The main selling point I’ve seen is the eGPU connection. That seems so weird though. To me it’s like buying a Toyota Corolla so you can hitch a Uhaul to it. Actually, it’s probably more like a Yugo in car terms since you have the option to buy the Framework multiple times in the form of new parts. I don’t get anything about the Framework, really.
>>109944734Seems the same to me.Get a MacBook
>>109935869are you fishing for the statista screencap?
>>109945693too slow
>>109936742>there's a reason why apple's design wonfor normies but not for a large portion of the tech enthusiast crowdwhile framework sells an apple design copycat to the same crowdgo be retarded somewhere else
>>109945946the catch is that the design adds thermal constraint limits and usability bugs that halve the useful lifespan of your chip (before you notice it gets slow) leading to you buying the upgrades from them to start the cycle anew
>>109945946Do not get a framework.The CEO is a jeet so obviously the product will be dog shit.What's up with this new GooglebookOS stuff, are these going to be any decent?
>>109949614selling out of googlebooks can't be a bad thing
I have $2500 to get a computer, what should I buy that will last 6+ years if I am not a retard with it?The new Googlebooks look neat, but I don't know how this Android OS is going to work in the long term as Google loves to kill off their products.
>>109948252Now that’s pretty stinky.>>109949614Don’t worry, I got an M5 Pro MacBook Pro the day of the price hike for $1999 (now $2649). I use my laptop to do stuff, not dick around in Linux. I was just curious what the point of a Framework is.Googlebook OS to me is their latest Stadia moment. From what I’ve seen gOS mainly only has web wrapped software so it is going to flop hard. It does look like Android though.
>>109933636>>109934545>upgrade not happening unless you swap out the entire motherboard, at which point you may as well get an entirely new laptop. here are some components you might want to upgrade and the harsh reality:>cpunope, it's soldered in. even if it wasn't soldered in, sockets change every 6 years or so>RAMon fat fuck laptops you can upgrade it... as long as you don't upgrade the generation. ddr4 memory in a ddr3 slot won't work. laptops that aren't fat usually have soldered ram anyway.>m.2 nvme stickyou can upgrade this, bur you're stuck with whatever generation of pcie the laptop supports. storage can be increased but speed is capped.also some retarded laptops use retarded shit like m.2 sata sticks or even a 2.5 inch sata drive
