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>>109938723gm sirsquick call?
Hello
new job locked in, once again in an all-male interview process, still 100% rate after 10 jobstotal foyim boycott, I'm never accepting interviews with them ever again
>Sanctity of labor. The moral and spiritual language of wage slavery. You are expected to have a career and a sense of purpose. Yippee! Be a wholesome guy with a wholesome career and a modest income. Go out and do things so you have new fun facts for the weekly meeting icebreakers. Your j*b cannot simply be the place you exchange labor for money. It has to develop you as a person and eventually become part of who you are. The pernicious corporation wants to occupy categories of life that previous societies reserved for family, religion and community.>This is deeper than corporate branding anon. The institution force feeds you vocabulary for interpreting your own life. By the time someone is fully acclimated to corporate life, they can explain their life story through the language of the company without anybody telling them to. In other words, ritualized.>Any conscious person would lament taking part in this. Some stay and relinquish consciousness. Others look to leave and can’t find the exit. There is an especially bleak point where one recognizes the absurdity of the entire performance and still has to perform it every morning. Everyone knows the enthusiasm is fake, yet the smile still has to appear. The transparency of the performance is THE POINT of the ritual. You are demonstrating that you will participate despite seeing it clearly. That’s humiliating. Corporate speak is the most offensive medium of communication one could undertake. Nobody involved is fooling anyone about their true intentions. That is the true indicator of a Baphomet Humiliation Ritual. Speak down plainly, do not even attempt to fool the subject.
>>109938748Is it possible to network out of college? I did no networking in college and now have zero real useful connections. I got a job out of college but it's not helping me get any other jobs (maintaining websites from early 2000s that are not modern at all) And I'd like to pivot from webdev to systems programming using C/C++ or rust. But since I have no real network to get into any sort of job with that I'm struggling to get interviews just based on projects and such. I am doing a grad certificate in embedded systems so will have more educational systems programming for my resume but I want to like network with people in the systems/embedded fields but not sure how to find anyone to really network with
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>>109938822No you should learn to Network(CCNA/CCNP)
>>109938723>Be a senior tech writer covering like eight different products at this goofy company>It's tech but it's finance so everyone is kind of a finance bro and deadlines are extremely fluid>Team #1 sets up calls to discuss enablement strategy or new feature deployment, cancels call ~20 minutes before it's supposed to happen, reschedules for next day.>Happens multiple weeks in a row>Team #2 has a product they've been planning on releasing to beta in October. Bumped from May of this year. Bumped from November of last year. Bumped from May of last year. Bumped from November the year before. Bumped from May the year before.>Team #2: "This might end up slipping into next year">Every time I get invited to a meeting I think I'm going to see something I can write about and add to our help center, but every time I ask for a build or QA environment they tell me they need to circle back with Compliance about a tiny issue that may be blocking the QA environment, then don't hear back from them for 3+ weeks and multiple follow-up emails>Last month I heard about a new product that needs documentation coverage but won't be ready for QA until "Q3 next year" (aka Q3 2028+)At least they pay me well and it's 100% remote because holy shit this job feels extremely stupid sometimes.
>>109938791I actually managed to get a job in a nearly 100% woman company. I learned later the company was initially supposed to be women-only, and the first few years it was exclusively vegan.Otherwise it's as you say, women never hire competent men, only chads.
>>109938866I'd rather do systems programming. firmware or embedded mostly
>>109938938Sounds like a heavenly 0 stress environment
>>109939020Lowest stress job I've ever had. I know I've got it good but I wish I had a little more of a tangible output so that I could stop being the bitch boy that everyone slings work onto (work that will be instantly added to the 'this won't get done because no one does anything here' pile)
>>109939042Work on something useful on your own time, bro.
we need a 200k+ tc only twg
>>109939095So /utwg/?
job abandonment is comfy to imagekinda like back in childhood the house was too messy, so we often didn't open the door to friends or strangersjust look out a small hole in the blinds to look who was knocking, sometimes I'd crawl on my hands and knees to get there without being seen (some people would come up to our window and look inside like peeping toms, like my moms Indian friend kek)one time, someone was at the door and I quietly went to look and noticed the door was unlocked!! I quietly locked it just before this random 45yo man tried opening it!! I think he was a criminal. Who the fuck opens a random persons door?Anyway, similar to job abandonment. Just purge all responsibility, and hunker down until they stop calling/knocking/seething. Not my problem
>actually a decent number of jobs in the salary range i'm looking for and with compatible skills>not a single one below 45m travel time and often 70-90m + having to go to other offices around the country pretty often>EU so salary ranges are minuscule and renting or moving would unironically make me less money at the end of the month that if i just went to work for the mcdonalds across the street
>>109939329I earn 170k eur.
Some white guy wrote do the needful in an email today to a bunch of indians. Not sure if it was ironic or not
>>109939353bro is speaking their language to get them to do work
>>109938822>sysjeet/embedjeetkek. someone needs to sit you down and have a talk with you if you think the grass is greener over there
>>109939343Good for you
>>109939353If he's ESL, he might have truly believed this was valid English because of exposure to Indians. I've had a few cases like these in companies I worked at before.>>109939400My point is, you can do it too.
>>109939406Sure mr biochem PHD
>>109939343What kind of job pays you that much in Europoor.
>>109939417How did you know!??
>>109939420A job for an american company
>>109939446It's not exactly the first time you brag about it here but fair play, you won. I don't see how I myself could do something approaching that though
>>109939343Sorry for your loss anon.
>>109939378well the idea would be getting in a defense company where you have to be a citizen so I'd mostly work with white people. also live in a pretty white state so by default most places wouldnt have many jeets if any
>>109938748That's the cyanide seasoned coffee
>>109939471Fine, I'll stop posting then.But it's really just luck, keep throwing the dice and you can do it, too. I truly believe this. European branches of US companies sometimes work, but most likely you want to look at US-based companies that are looking to hire in Europe (which is not the same thing). If the posting is public, it will probably be flooded with applicants. Backchannels like ads that are only displayed on the websites of accelerators or investor portfolio companies can work, though.
>>109939406Yeah I'm guessing he's some eastern European esl
>>109939524Doctor says i am immune due to acute parental poisoning.
>>109939420>>109939459that's not happening. senior positions around here pay 45-50khighest i've ever seen was i think 80k on the upper range of a principal architect position with 8-10 YOE for microsoft for a specific technology with certs.as a middle, realistically i can only really hope for something in the 33-36k range, with bonuses of maybe 2k
>>109938723Cute Juliet
>>109939590Really? Where? In Poland, an L4 at google earns 424k PLN.In Sweden, it is 1.3m SEK.In France, 117k eur.Are you Bosnian or something?
>>109939534I am in fact considering doing what my current boss did, which is move to the US (my globohomocorp has offices everywhere but has european roots) and then come back on a very good salary (essentially the same as yours) although he's a peculiar profile
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>>109939523fine but im warning you that embedded sucks ass and pays like shit for a reason. theres no glory in it. any modicum of intellectual curiosity you had going into it will be crushed
Migration from legacy AngularJS to Angular complete in less than a weekHow I did it:>step 1 upgrading from AngularJS 1.5.3 to 1.8.3>step 2 toolchain swap and upgrading runtime from Node 10 to 24, setting up safetynet>step 3 hybrid bootstrap>step 4 converting services to Angular>step 5 UI components to Angular>step 6 routes to Angular>step 7 removing AngularJS, UpgradeModule, etc.
>>109939729playwright tested, i presume?
>>109939739yep
>>109938822going to meetups and conventions is how you would do it. just try not to be one of those guys that only goes to break into an industry and use people to land a job. it is really pathetic to see that.
>>109939646Good luck!
>>109939661That should be somewhat lower than France, but not much.
>>109939665defense contractors pay a pretty penny because govt money. and it'd be infinitely better than web dev im doing now. Have to constantly be "on call" basically every day. Am expected to get a text at 6 am on a sunday and answer it or midnight on a saturday and answer it. Same with any hours outside of work hours during the week. It's hell I want to go into work, do my job then go home and not have to worry about being called in at 11 pm on a friday because someone doesn't like the way a feature looks 5 years of that and I am completely over it
>>109939951lol, lmao.hard to say what would my title even be at google, but since i'm not big on coding, IT would be my best guess
I have Canada fatigue
>>109940316IT is a janitor-tier position, schizo.The term to use for comparison is "level" as in "L4 google salary".>hurr durr mom and pops underpays that means google doesn't payinbred-tier.
>>109939981defense generally pays 2-3x less than public companies and once you niche yourself into systems/embedded work you nuke your career, earning potential, and opportunities because most other devs are too fucking retarded to understand what you do. youre also trading oncall flexibility for crunch time like gamedevs do. imagine having to work on weekends until midnight in a small busy lab with no internet access for 3 months straight, debugging somebody else's shitty code and hardware. and because the hardware and software is usually outdated or proprietary, you or your dei hire coworkers cant google most of the issues you run into for answers
>>109940343go back then gurpreet
>>109940387>IT is a janitor-tier positioni'm not kidding myself, my skills are not really in line with the kind of scale google is working with.no certs either.but to be fair, checking the actual google job site, the 2 positions listed are 60k and 90k.granted, not much of a sample size but the pic i posted earlier is probably bogus.that being said, said 2 positions have nothing in common with what i know or want to do so eh. i'll keep an eye out just in case but i'm not holding my breath
>>109939620>just get l4 at google bro, it pays... 130k usd with 45% of it taken in taxes
>>109940413forgot to mention i really hope you like debugging other peoples problems because thats what youre going to be doing most of the time. might take you 2 months just to solve a particularly egregious bug while your dei hire manager(s) pester you about it in weekly hour long scrum meetings. turns out that software issue was actually a hardware issue, so now you think its the hardware guys problem right? no, now you need to quickly shit out a software workaround and shit up the codebase while youre at it so you can focus on the other 100 issues that piled up meanwhile.
>>109940657>retard can't comprehend the difference between average tax and marginal tax
>>109940715no, 45% is roughly the amount of 130k usd salary that is taken in taxes.it doesnt count the employer side taxes that reduce the total compensation and it doesnt include things like VAT which is 25% lmao.
>>109940733Ask the clanker instead of making a fool out of yourself.
>>109940771?? retard
>>109940825The clanker is literally telling you it's making shit up on the total number, and is also using old numbers. Even then it gives you a figure below your bullshit, so self-pwn.
>>109940413defense around me pays about 100k for the starting salaries, and right now I make 70k as a fullstack which is like less than 10th percentile for my state and also under the median for the country so it's still a big bump in pay. and I'd rather stay late at work than leave and get interrupted in my free time doing stupid stuff. Im also not entirely locked into wanting embedded any "software engineering" job at a defense contractor would work as long as it isn't web shit
Amerifriends I need to know: how many days off do you get a year? Not counting national holidays
>>109940846it changes based on the municipality. is this trolling or legit retardation? last bait i am responding to.there are people on here who are legitimately surprised to find out that people get taxed an insane amount in europe. theyre even surprised to find out the salary is so much less too. so your post could be retardation or just bait, its impossible to tell.
>>10994087710 days of PTO minimum, after that it depends on the companyWhen I was working at [company], the salaries were way below FAANG (senior was ~180k but everybody was senior except literally two people who were associates/mid level and a handful of principals/staff engineers) but the tradeoff was that the office was closed for all of December and we got 20-35 days of PTO off too based upon how many years you worked there.
>>109940877like 5 weeks paid time off that includes sick days. Can only roll over like 40 hours from pervious year and cant cash it in sadly
>>109940909So ~42 to ~57, nice nice nice but I imagine that's 0.00001% rarity
>>109940882>self-pwns>cries about itLol. Lmao even.The effective tax rate in commiefornia is 34.9% at $130k. Except you can barely survive on $130k.The effective tax rate in stockholm (since that's your selected country) at 130k euros is 37.9%. However, at this income level, you live like a king.
>>10994087715 days because I've been at this company for 7 years. Never had a job with more than 13 days before.
>>109940850im telling you, youll kill yourself if you go into embedded and defense is overwhelmingly embedded jobs. if you can manage to get something else maybe itll work out but i dont recommend sticking around in the industry for too long
>>109940928The point of the anecdote is that it really depends on your employer. And that you can either have an eye watering salary or a good work-life balance but you can't have both simultaneously.
>>109940947Working at small companies I assume?
>>109941056No, medium and large companies. Including microshit and meta.
>>109941063That's disconcerting, I would have expected FAGMAN to give you a lot more than that
>finally got promoted>For years thought I could get the position be "being better at coding">Finally realized the meme>Realize now all that matters is the appearance of competency in front of the people that decideThat's it. Not even delivering matters. Just look like you know what you're talking about in meetings and you're golden. Fucking clown world.
>>109938960Let me guess. No work got done.
a friend of mine called me today offering me to become part of their startup... under the argument that shit is so bad today that you either start selling your own stuff or get left behind.shit looks grim af. how are things going for you?
>>109941135The men (tech team) did some work sometimes, but yes, it was absolutely a lifestyle company.
>conversing with H-1B indian at work>works in a different and non-tech department>pretty friendly guy, is appreciative of all the times I took care of his tickets and helped him out with his laptop issues>tell him I'm studying for AWS certifications>he leans in and offers me his connections back home that will get me IT certificates for a price>I decline but thank himIm surprised, surprised that I'm surprised, but also a little flattered.
>>109941282don't be too flattered he gets a kickbackit's a whole industry
>>109939620Shut up dude you are lying
>>109940496To Germany? Maybe. Do they let you return if that's where your grandparents are from?
>>109938723SAAR MY H1BEE REVOKED ON FLIGHT BACK TO HYDERABAD PLS HELP SAAAAR
>>109940343Everything about Cucknada is dreadful, first in the list being Cucknadians.
>>109941390Whatever do you mean? You don't like a colder drearier version of California with lower salaries and double the housing costs and a husk of a national identity that simply revolves around not being American?
chasing immigrant skirt is my main pastime, I love canada
>>109941406It'd still be at least survivable if it weren't for the locals being greedier than the greediest jew, more deceitful than the most deceitful chink, dumber than the blackest gorilla nigger, less competent than the least competent pajeet, and I can keep going.
>>109939729I don't see you mentioning writing unit and E2E tests first for the old AngularJS project and only then starting the migration. With this much code there's almost no way it fit in the context window.
>>109939981Why is oncall such a problem for developers? Why dont developers just isolate their systems properly and negotiate remote work with their teams for oncall rotations across opposite time zones.
>>109941449Because as usual, devs have 0 power or say over these things, and m*nagers don't know the first thing about anything.
>work for a small software shop of less than 50 people for half a decade >every time someone leaves we prepare a farewell card and buy him a gift, some small, some ridiculously expensive like a jewelry >I chip in every time >I get laid off >receive no card
>>109941485Yup. I no longer do these activities for that reason.
>>109941448step 2
>>109941485Sorry bra. That first lay off legit hurts. Then you become the Punished Mercenary.
Mental fatigue has drained an hour and a half of my day
>>109941499I'm not saying it can't be done but I remain critical. I've had my trouble with those """automatic""" migrations assisted by Opus just a few months ago. And yes people did complain A LOT about my giant ass prs.
>>109941522Only the AI psychosed only say otherwise.
>>109941527AI is great, don't get me wrong, but the context window remains a huge bottleneck for large codebases. The more isolated a task and the more well-defined the requirements the likelier it is that Opus or Fable one-shot the task.
>>109941537Only the AI psychosed think it magically works as opposed to only being useful for tiny things with very questionable time and financial economics due to the incredible failure rate, not to mention that only 1% of the context is usable and performance degrades to 0 after that.
>>109941522There’s a reason I didn’t even think about attempting this until last week. Even Opus 5 was trash at this sort of stuff. Technology gets better
I'm relatively new to the Angular space, but wouldn't a big sweeping upgrade from AngularJS to Angular 2 potentially cause a lot of silent failures and regressionssorry to ask an actual tech question in the Indian Hate General
>>1099415685.5 is literally a disaster, worse than 5 which is worse than 4.6Take your meds.
>>109941568Interesting I'll keep it in mind. Haven't worked on large refactorings recently, only on some not-so-well defined tasks that required a few iterations.
>>109941598>but wouldn't a big sweeping upgrade from AngularJS to Angular 2 potentially cause a lot of silent failures and regressionsNta but it's Angular 22 and the most difficult part is refactoring and migrating stuff that was previously already implemented wrong or with anti-patterns. What kind of moron writes back into an input!?
>hey anon can you help us out with x>heh now you own x foreverThis is ridiculous. The only dial I have is the quality and I fully intend to turn it all the way down.
>>109941624Getting to own things is the dream dude. That's your black box to fuck up and gatekeep now and pretend like you're essential to keeping alive.
>>109941517what happened?
>>109941449it's one thing for on call but I am on a team of 4 devs and am the only one ever called in off hours because the others don't repsond or are somehow always away from their computers so it's not that I'm on call it's that im the only one on call 24/7 and am like 90% sure I make the least out of any of them and again like 10th percentile for salary for software devs in the US and in my state.
>>109941751Did you talk to management about expectations? You might be letting it control your life way more than intended by management or the team. Otherwise you need to stop letting your team exploit you and setup an oncall rotation for your team. Outside of your own rotations, its not your problem.
>>109941973management is the ones calling me lmao. and they don't want to do on call. Think im just boned in this role and need to find something new but this experience has left a sour taste in my mouth for web dev
anyone knows what github for copilot tokens translate to, monetarily? I get 10k a month, wondering how much I'm leeching off my company
>>109942000Managers are like women. If they're needy, its because you enabled them to be like that. Start out slow and increasingly ignore them when they reach out. If they bitch about it, just say you cant do oncall past a certain time anymore because youre busy. There's 4 other guys on the team they're paying. This isn't your problem. This is their problem. They need to hire more people if they expect 24/7 oncall.
>>109941702I just got to a point where I don't know how to keep up with the tracks I get assigned. I'm doing like 4 at the same time but my coworkers are also doing that + they're more important and I seem to not be keeping up with the rest.I want to start therapy because of that, plus my relationship with my project leader being shit
>>109939534Do you have to actually be a tech wiz to get those US jobs or are there still positions open for DEI if you're from EE?
>>109938770ring ringring ringring ring
>>109938770you have one voicemail>...you have one voicemail:>hey anon, it's anon. I saw your chat message about a quick call... sorry that we were not able to connect today. Have a nice evening.
anyone else work someplace where they’ve given Claude access to non-devs? We’ve had multiple outages due to vibe coded apps raping our services and bringing them down
>>109938822networking is the fake story that people tell when they got a job using family connections or some racially motived or tribally motivated DEI hiring job. I'm guessing you are one of the 99% white people that do not have family connections and are just getting fucked over. same as me.
>>109942292sorry, all the previous DEI hires were indians who only hire indians now. it's over. you're as fucked as an unemployed white man. congrats.
>>109942000you sound very junior. let this be a lesson, don’t respond outside of working hours and definitely don’t try to be a hero
>>109942705NTA but it's survivorship bias. There is legitimately times in college where knowing somebody above you helps you land the interview for the internship/job but imo it really starts to have limits after graduating college.Referrals don't guarantee an interview much less a job
>>109942775anon specifically said after college. he's probably asked people who appear sucessfuly how'd they get their job and getting the cover-story that they networked.
>>109942736this is the correct answer but junior anon sounds like he's backed into a corner>>109942000you've got two options. either casually mention that you got a gym membership and need to get in better shape, then when work hours end just sign out, and don't respond to calls with the excuse that you were at the gymOR even better but it will take some balls, and this is what I would actually doTell your manager that you don't have a problem with working on-call, after hours, but once you've reached 40 hours of work for the week you will stop working and will not be available until start of next week. Then send an email to your manager summarizing that you will now be working 40 hours per week whenever including on call and will send an email status whenever that happens. Then when that happens you document your work hours in a status email like this:Monday 13 hours workedTuesday 12 hours workedWednesday 12 hours worked Thursday 3 hours worked.See you Monday,Anon.send the email on Thursday at the end of the 3rd third hour and sign out.
>>109942775You people must not work with high impact teams at high impact companies. swaths of people have left my org because they went to join whatever hip AI startup their favorite ex-engineering manager started. If i get laid off im a phone call away from joining them
>>109942893idk I worked in big tech but I've never had somebody beating down my door to join their company.I've gotten my jobs through the LinkedIn spray and pray
>>109942907>highimpacthe's referring to one of those fake statup companies that unemployed founders work at for free so they can keep pumping their ego on linkedin. i mean, wtf these days is actually high impact?
How do I find a job at one of those mega corrupt NGOs that just exist to launder money?
>>109941302True but he makes pretty decent money here, doubt the rupee kickback would be worth much to him
>>109942907did you deliver frequently and on time? did you provide value? did you save someone’s ass? did you at least bring in donuts and coffee on Friday?I know I sound like a meme here but these are the things people remember you by. If you’re an asocial freak that spends your time online complaining about “DEI hires” then it’s no wonder why you’re getting nowhere in your career.
>>109942932high impact meaning if any one of our systems goes down the company is losing millions by the minute. this requires a lot of domain knowledge and expertise, not something you obtain doing generic web dev.
>>109942893>>109942953>muh high impact ai startuplmao this >>109942932
>>109942997yeah, see, there aren't alot of companies that need that sort of tech expertise so when/if you find yourself on the job market, your pedegree will intimidate the hiring manager and it will be difficult to find a job. glad you are doing alright but make sure you don't get laid off.
>>109943047my skillset is pretty t shaped. right now i'm in manufacturing, where the situation (probably) cannot get any worse in the US, so if the tariffs and hardball w/ china works out then hopefully i'll have opportunities for years to come
Being on a walking pad at work on an online meeting is such a power move. You're exhibiting movement while everyone else is sitting, demonstrating you can do it while working, and it's implicit (you're not announcing, it's just visual). Most importantly, nobody can object to you walking because it's so mundane and "getting steps in" is very accepted.
convince me not to quit my jobi'm so over this shit
>>109943340Why should I give a shit about you. You come in here making demands without even explaining your situation? Go ahead and quit life too
>>109943471>>109943340twist: this is the same person
>>109941282https://durgasoft.com/
>>109943471don't tempt me
indian hate is so tiresome
>>109943537It comes from envy.
>>109943537>>109943672poojeets are so delusional
>>109943322>power movethe defining characteristic of a doosh is not knowing that you are a doosh. well done doosh. nice power doosh move. it's obvioulsy too late though, so just keep dooshing i guess.
>>109943537>i have a doubtmore tiresome than incompetent indians only hiring incompetent indians and infotech going to shit as a result?
>>109943707they're also racist and their wives are horny while they are off at work; just keep blasting in the poojeetas while they're at work, and the racist poojeets will never wonder why "their" kids keep turing out whiter than them. I must have sired at least 30 kids by now. my friends call me King Cucker.
>>109943537>indian hate is so tiresome
I'm in a sour mood after a 1-1 with my boss. Definitely going to get passed over for a promo despite doing pretty well.I've been getting glazed by my boss and his boss (the director) weekly for months. The director is known for shitting all over people and being rude. One week he spent 10 straight mins glazing me in front of ~15 people, never seen anything like it before. So, I thought I was in good standing for a promotion1-1 today:>Ask if I'm on track for a promo from his view this cycle>Keeps trying to dodge the question and not really answer it>Ask him directly again>"blah blah ...look to coworker Bob for an example of what a level N looks like">wants to see me do XYZ, needs to see my peer feedback first, can't make any promises, etc etc bullshit excuses>>coworker Bob was only here for 6 months and was not doing XYZ when he was promoted to what I am shooting for>>Bob said himself he would be surprised if I didn't get promoted >>Boss has basically promised to my friend that he will get promoted without dancing around the issue>I just say I understand it's a diplomatic no for now, I understand his perspective, and try to wrap up the meeting>Boss probably notices my checked out expression and totally switches up>"blah blah oh no no don't get discouraged, you're doing good work, you're doing what's expected of you, these are just areas for growth blah blah blah">"blah blah you are on track I just can't make any promises blah blah">you will get opportunities to do XYZ very soon>I pretend that my mood has lightened and wrap up the meeting in a positive manner after more talkingDoes this nigga think I'm retarded? Obviously just dangling the carrot on a stick in front of me so that I'm not a flight risk.
>>109938723>those kneecaps2/10 would not bang
>>109943902>Definitely going to get passed over for a promo despite doing pretty well.why do you people fall for this shit over and over? why would a good manager want to promote the most technical or productive people over some mediocre guy who knows how to talk and manage people?
>>109943953Total opposite situationBob, who got promoted, was one of the higher performing technical people who doesn't talk super wellLately I've been focusing on marketing my contributions [talking] during weeklies and have improved a lot at it. Also bring up making strategic partnerships with devs on other teams, doing things to improve our team's reputation, etc. My tech skills are just okay.
I still can't read ww2 history books once chapters reach autumn 1942. It hurts.
>>109943738the word is "douche"
>I still can't read ww2 history books once chapters reach autumn 1942. It hurts.
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holy shit please tell me faang work somehow gets better
>>109944148It gets worse anon
>>109944148what's wrong
>>109944184I wrote a long response and decided against posting it... the most I'll say is that there are a LOT of meetings and I'm completely lost
>>109942292See >>109942734Nobody has cared about ability or talent in tech since like 2005 or something also.
>>109942705>networking is the fake story that people tell when they got a job using family connections or some racially motived or tribally motivated DEI hiring job.That's literally what networking fundamentally mean, it's no lie.>I'm guessing you are one of the 99% white people that do not have family connections and are just getting fucked over. same as me.You are supposed to go to conferences and find friends that way. But yeah, I haven't found a way to do that either.
>>109942893I have only exclusively worked on such teams, but the managers have always been the most incompetent cretins around, and I'm the "ex-engineering manager starting a hip [non-AI] startup" among all my peers ever (of course, I've never been allowed a position above senior while fresh out of school w*men get slapped straight into management, but nevermind that).
>>109943047>your pedegree will intimidate the hiring manager and it will be difficult to find a job.This is correct.Worst, modern companies love firing people on the critical path and making excuses to clients instead of making sure that ship runs tight, because they developed some kind of bizarre narrative that if you have a single point of failure in the org, you should terminate it to let the org magically heal and reorganize more robustly. I don't know what influencer sold them that, but it has been that way for a while now.
>>109938723Why are Indian Hindu invaders allowed to do this in "American" tech companies? This is not an Indian branch of Intuit, this is the American office of an American company.
>>109944148It doesn't. We told you so and you didn't listen, you spammed something about crabs. You get what you fucking deserve.
>>109941624I don't remember posting this; time to buy a monoxide detector
is everyone else leaving for Open AI or just my org?3 IC6+ in like a month leftmeta, DE
>>109944586Just the shitskins. White people and competent, experienced people aren't allowed at openai or anthropic.
>>109944045no, actually, the word is actualy dooooooooosh. i was just abreviating it.
aieee I hate lookout for work
>>109944862Same NYOOOOOO
>>109938723gm sirsanyone else had issues with boomers refusing to pay them? kekjust happened to an ex coworker of mine, why are boomers so corrupt and greedy?
>>109944957No, but just send to collection or sue depending on what's available in your cunt.
>be subsidiary of bigcorp INC>parent company record profits, stock price tripled due to AI shit>during annual all-employee meeting they mentioned that people from the parent company got a substantial bonus, CEO straight up called it life-changing depending on location/COL>btw, we from subsidiary didn't get squat lmao
>>109945085that's when you bring out the :rofl: in chat
>>109945248they disabled chat for the meeting.thank fucking god i'm looking for a way out
>>109944369ok dude we get it. they are jews without the IQ. but can you spam something new now? you are preaching to the choir.
>we need to stop splitting tickets up>but not that one split that up>im allowed to split out ticket but NOT YOUso what im asking for basically is interest rates to drop, job postings to go up, and me to get a new fucking job
>mfw setting up my second agent and seeing them interact with each other
Holy shit its holiday season fuck me.
>>109946166Conjuring the spirits of the computer, but for real this time.
This month's invoices sent. Feels good mon.
>>109944148Don’t worry, you’ll get laid off soon
Am I allowed to post on here if I'm on vacation?Back to work on Monday though :(
>>109946800Yes. I feel like the weekends don't even matter anymore.
>issue we have been facing for a week now>manager doesn't want me involved in it cause I bitched about my timelines not accounting my support for others>would rather work on bugs than these unnecessary features >even AI assistants couldn't fix it>they are discussing it partially on the team chat>couldn't help myself start checking the team chat>clone project and debug secretly>reproduce it and investigate >25 minutes i identify the root cause and it's fix>missing config causing default config which isn't compatible >manager gives up tells them to ask anon>they hover over me while asking for help>they dm me the project name on git>they see that i already have the project>"didnt know you worked on the project anon">ask them to leave and come back>delete my config changes and setup so they don't know I already figured it out>figure it out infront of them in 15 minutes >all praise, these cunts wasted a week >give manager a sigh like he wasted my time again where can I just do this for work? i'm addicted to the validation it makes me feel
>>109946880You get numbed of the praise as more years roll along.
>>109946880>>109946902It's also nice to just do the hard rewarding part and not have to see the whole thing through.Anon should have had his manager move feature work away from him so that he can do superstar work.It also let's you chill a lot more of the time and creates a mystique around you where nobody ever questions your output.
>>109946867Since I have slack on my phone I can't help but look at notifications and see people running around like chickens.Not that I'm doing anything about it. But I do see them.
>>109946902the praise doesn't mean anything to me 8 years in this industry, the only praise i care about is a raisebut the validation that no one else can fix it in the room but me strokes my ego to this day ngli heard in amazon they have a star team who go and help other teams who are stuck, that's what i dream of
>>109946943Why do you dream of being the ultimate good goy?
>>109939042this sounds great I'd be writing my novel
>>109946880Seems nice to work with idiots, I work with all very competent people as the guy with the least experience. I constantly feel I'm wasting time compared to everyone else.
>>109946775BASED
Yesterday at lunch Star Trek came up in conversation, and none of my coworkers (all software engineers mid to late 30s) had ever watched or had any interest in watching Star Trek. How did this industry become filled with these kinds of normgroid retards? I just can’t imagine how anyone with an iq over 100 who grew up in an era where TNG reruns were always on TV never watching it.
got my job offer and enjoying cancelling the 10+ interviews I had lined up/demanding they make me an offer within 2 days regardless of interview stageshoe on the other foot now hr heh
>>109946880>>109946943>but the validation that no one else can fix it in the room but me strokes my ego to this day nglsame.personally, i've only ever gotten maybe 3 moments like that in my carreer, but it's worth it everytime>>109946950it don't matter anyway. i'm paid the same regardless if i spend 8 hours doing the shittiest, most repetitive job or troubleshooting an issue.it's not like solving these kind of issues requires me to bend over backwards. might as well get a (non literal) kick out of it.as long as it's not extra responsibilities that fall on me and me alone if i don't solve it, it's fine for me
>>109947349the only thing i ever watched on tv was stuff like married with children and the simpsons than i just stopped watching tvi'm objectively more high iq than you
>>109947527Obsec fail
>>109947349I watch(ed) anime instead and never had any interest in star trek, wars or marvel/dc related things
>>109944373its okay ill cry in 220k TC + a ton of benefits and free coffee!!!>>109946796no lol, everyone here has been at the org for like 5+ years. nobody gets laid off, they're all fired or leave for another job
any other non americans here permanently really mad at how much burgers get paid despite being worse than youin the UK I made 140k where burgers would get 400k, and even then I pay all of that in tax...
Its never been a better time to be a solo dev and a worse time to be a corporate dev. Constant LLM prs, 'maveriks' going off and coding some slop app or library in day, trying to force you to use it or hyping it up to upper management, then abandoning it a week later, all the fun parts of the job solved by prooomping, leaving only cursed integrations, status meetings, politics, and proposal work. On the other hand, building for personal stuff is great and effortless. The only BS you need to deal with is your own.
>>109947843bulgarian here I dont even make 60k so stfu
>>109947829I'll take fries with that.Don't look at layoffs from apple in the past 3 months lmao
>>109947829>nobody gets laid off, they're all fired???
>>109947893>'maveriks' going off and coding some slop app or library in day, trying to force you to use it or hyping it up to upper management, then abandoning it a week laterI promise I'll get to it next week.Jokes aside, where do we go from here, realistically? At some point even going solo will be pointless, unless you mean doing something for yourself and not expecting to make a living from it.
team failed to meet the sprint goal for the last few ones so everyone's under pressure, fuck that I actually am unable to care>>109941131literally this. the loudest guy in the room usually gets promoted faster.>>109943322I just got one and it's a lot of fun. it actually makes being at my desk bearable to fun depending on what I'm doing now.>>109947843for the UK 140K is pretty good tho unless you live in Canary Wharf or some shit, I'm trying to get a non shite salary and some places really take the piss with paying peanuts
>>109941485That's why you're here forever and anons are your best friends.Good luck on your new career path, I will send you a farewell giftA gift of sending you to >>>/utwg/.Begone neet frog posting pest.
>it's a "stakeholder you held in high regard asks for something so retarded that it kills any confidence you had in them" episode
>>109948129>where do we go from here, realistically?Honestly, no idea. I think the way software companies are organized needs to be at this point and I'm not sure what the new meta is going to be. It could be that small agile teams who can react quickly are gonna win by being organizationally nimble. It could also be that large firms with other know-how (existing network effects, proposal capture apparatus, robust distribution channels) will dominate. It could be that the meta stays the same, but there's a much larger focus on figuring out what the actual optimal thing to build is. >doing something for yourself and not expecting to make a living from itI do mean this. Maybe I'm just burned out at the current state of my job but working on my own projects has been a relief from what work has been lately.
>>109948235>Maybe I'm just burned out at the current state of my job but working on my own projects has been a relief from what work has been lately.Same. I don't know about you, but I changed jobs recently, after the massive AI adoption by companies this year. It's so much harder to keep up, now. I feel like there's this expectation of delivering real impact after week 2. I see coworkers having their agents open PRs and review others at neck-breaking speeds, and I know they don't understand what's happening on those moving parts at all. I'm trying to onboard myself by going slower, trying to actually understand the direction the project is going, but I fear that management will look at my stats and thinking I'm dragging my feet.
any cleared people here tell me if its worth it my autism is preventing me from getting fingerprinted and i don't know what to do
>CTO says we're already $700K over budget this fiscal yearI'm never getting that promotion, am I...
>>109939592>>109943933that's a man
>>109948333I dont think there's anything wrong with ie going slower, especially if its to learn about the product or the design. I think it will make you understand things a lot more. And yeah my current work is a slop shop, I literally proompt claude before going to bed, wake up to a PR in my name with a claude generated description and my manager does some basic checks, doesnt read the code and clicks approve. My manager has a "documentation" page he's never read that is full of unreadable llm vomit that he sends to new hires and expects them to read. Sometimes I go check the architecture he's come up with and its actual nonsense that will never scale, other times its perfectly reasonable. Regardless its actually soulless with no respect to quality and the worst part is my manager is a god at politics so he gets rewarded for it and no one cares.
>>109948567you're getting a pink slip on 12/18
>>109947490>it don't matter anyway. i'm paid the same regardless if i spend 8 hours doing the shittiest, most repetitive job or troubleshooting an issue.why does it not matter if you get paid doing something you enjoy that also keeps your brain healthy vs you get paid doing something you hate?
>>109947488Is this a larp? How does someone even get this many interviews at the same time? It takes me like 500 applications just to land one interview.
>>109948785eh, bad wording on my part.but also i can't be expected to always perform the most brain-intensive tasks and sometimes you just want to pick something easy to get through the day quickly. it's a delicate balance
>>109948866I did apply to basically everywhere, but also I am a senoir with a masters and research in AI
>>109948889Why are you even in this thread then? You pretty much have guaranteed employment with that kind of background. I'm a senior with more than 10 yoe in frontend dev and my entire career has been basically made obsolete at this point.
>>109948900you can retrain as an ai engineer in a few months just pick up some books
>>10994886610+ at the same time?probably an exaggeration.but it's very possible to get a decent callback rate by applying with a little more precision to stuff you actually have experience in.out of these applications i've had 14 interviewsbut also i'm not in the US so there's that.i've staggered my search as not to have more than 4-5 at the same time
>>109948889And I am a senior with a PhD from yoshua bengio's lab in AI and ex-FAGMAN AI research experience with patents registered in AI, and I still can't get an interview.I'm white though.
>>109925189
>>109948922No you can't. Who's going to hire an ML engineer without an advanced degree who only has experience in frontend dev? From what I understand, you pretty much need a PhD and published research to even be considered for those kinds of jobs. I am going back to school to at least get a master's in CS (because I have no relevant degree right now) but I'm not under any illusions that it's going to make any real difference.
>>109948964frontier research (impossible openai anthropic jobs) and just putting ai workflows into places are VERY different roles. Knowing how to do the easier stuff and speak the mcp langgraph buzzwords can get you the second
>>109948924I only apply to jobs I'm 100% qualified for and I've gotten 2 interviews out of nearly 1000 applications.
>>109948970>just putting ai workflows into placesThat's not even software engineering. That's something anyone can do, and there's no way anyone is getting 10 interviews at a time applying to jobs like that.
>>109948924>purposely throttling your own job search so you don't get too many interviews>in 2026 in this job marketkys larping faggot
>>109948983obviously I was simplifying, those ai workflows would be things like training models as well, but it is all pretty boilerplate python
>>109949006these fucking retards keep asking for an in-person interview, i had legit trouble fitting them together.i needed my days off to be justifiable to avoid getting shitcanned on the spot
>>109948983Unironically those jobs are super hot right now. Nobody wants to hire people with experience training or fine tuning or building these models for this, so the exact skillset they look for is nonexistent.>>109949033When training is involved, the job is typically called ml engineer or deep learning engineer instead of ai engineer.
>>109949057>Nobody wants to hire people with experience training or fine tuning or building these models for this, so the exact skillset they look for is nonexistent.What are you trying to say here? If nobody wants to hire them, why would the job market be hot? What even is the skillset you're talking about?
>work laptop with Windows on it>doing absolutely nothing, just connected to the company VPN>the fans, WHIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!
>>109949057typically no one has any fucking idea or consistency in what anything is called and data scientist, data engineer, ai engineer, ai dev ops, ml engineer, ml scientist or many other roles could all be the same thing
>>109949065Again, ai engineer is a backend engineer that calls out to ai api's and uses langchain's react agent under some bullshit graphql endpoint, or arguably some bullshit langgraph pipeline. Also the lang* ecosystem is such a broken piece of shit that only pajeet-tier bullshit uses any of that instead of engineering their own, but I digress.They explicitly exclude people with experience actually working with the actual models and training and things deeply as part of the recruitment process for some reason.
>>109949097That used to be the case until 2021, but nowadays anything with the word "ai" in it is chiefly "uses LLMs" while anyone else is dl/ml/data science/engineering/developer.
>>109938938nice humble brag faggot imagine how much you can make on the side while ""working"" at your current waiting job
>>109949074software is solved blud
>>109948157>think this one guy is really good and knows tons of shit>don't really work on the same thing, but talk to him a lot>go away from the project for two years>come back afterwards when he has left the company>he had to take over your codebase>his code is full of basic mistakesthere is something to this aura thing
>>109947843I'm in the UK and only make 50k, but considering the job feels pretty secure I'm okay with it for now. So as long as I can afford to live alone and commission hentai every month, I can live a happy life
>>109949466taxes in the UK are so fucked someone on 100k can have less disposable income than 50k if you live in the north vs them in london
>>109948900>frontend devI am so fucking glad that I stopped working frontend once I saw React and decided that I am not going to touch that mess with a ten foot pole. Cloud/DevOps bullshit seems to float fine in the current climate since it is so much more about high-concept designs, SLAs and accountability. The vibecoded Three.js demos are not going to host themselves.I would still hire a frontend dev to do actual quality work, but the MBAs are more delusional than ever.
>>109942939that anon meant that pajeet gets izzat for you being flattered
>>109948900>>109949524I've pivoted a few years ago from frontend dev to full-fullstack dev powered by AI. Basically you know a little bit of everything and enough to make AI help guide you through whatever problem you may encounter.
I really should be looking for a new job but damn, I get to do next to nothing at the current one. Are current jobs still like that (do nothing and get paid a bunch) or have the PMs decided that all work has to be done in 1 day because of AI?
>>109949572What do you think lmaoUnder MIGA and SUPER INTELLIGENCE SAAR every goy is expected to work 80 hours a week and complete tasks that previously took a month in one day with the help of AI while making sure to not give Stacy from HR the ick or else you get mobilized to fight Iran.
>>109949519that's true, even living costs up here are nowhere near as bad as what they are down in London
>networking so that's an american euphemism for nepotism, just like lobbying is for corruption right?
>>109949615no, it's a realy thing, try being nice and helpful to your colleagues, it pays off bigly down the road
>>109949615>nepotismyou faggots keeps using this word like it's a bad thing, no wonder nobody hires you
>>109949621Only to the ones you like though. Trying to be nice to people you can't stand makes you more miserable than it is worth.
>>109949642yeah, I mean, that's implicit
In what percentile of software engineers do you need to be in to have any semblance of job security and good pay in this field? Top 50%? Top 10%?
>>109949776I don't think there's any kind of job with job security assuming AI gets to the point where it can start to somewhat replace a remote worker by itself. Just months after that every computer job can be replaced and another year or so and all manual work has also been replaced.
The Indian director of engineering at my company has hired 3 people all year and they have all been Indian. Natively Indian not just ethnically. How is this legal.
>>109949813HR wants to speak about your racism
>>109949813I'll report you to Vance for racism.
One thing I have noticed in the era of AI development: a complete cease to anyone talking about software patterns. Like for most of my career, I have listened to someone every so often talking about how implementing some new pattern or refactoring things to all use such-and-such will be really good for our codebase. And all of that is basically nonexistent now.Instead, all our conversations are just about how to trim down the massive paragraphs from claude outputs, what to put in skills/md files, and other shit like that. But the code itself? No actual discussion any more. Just find it interesting.
>>109949813Assuming you're in the US, they are either hiring people already here as citizens or permanent residents for other reasons, or they are doing the classic H1B trick where you just list qualifications that are way beyond what the actual job is and list a pay window that is stupid low and sounds retarded to most people. Then they do a perfunctory interview phase with US-born candidates so they can check the box that "the role cannot be filled with a US citizen" and open the role to internationals.
>>109949844Software patterns were always unnecessary bloat beyond a select few ones like singletons and interfaces. Factories are fucking gay and I've only once seen someone try to implement a strategy pattern.
aren't h1bs dead because no one wants to pay a 100k feed for an indian it's always been insanely hard to get into the US from the UK because there isn't any reason to work cheaper (wages are bad in the UK, but not indian bad) and unless you are some superstar companies just won't sponsor you
>>109949877Correct. Eventually the massive growth of the IT industry spawned this legion of corporate grifters who figured out that selling fantasy books about software development is really profitable. Robert C. Martin probably took it the furthest, but there is some really surface level bullshit that came from the Gang of Four (TDD and XP, for instance).
>>109949969TDD is the biggest scam of all time because no one writes tests first.
>>109949892>over 40% of the domestic tech field is immigrants, mostly indian>tech field is shrinking, no new jobs>the millions of indians they have been bringing in for decades all have citizenship or greencard>trump pretends to do somethign that will have no effectall staged. the fraudulent h1b scheme was part of a trade deal with india.
>>109949984I did for a while several years back someplace at our senior dev's insistence. It was a neat exercise, but in practice just became "the implementation has changed significantly from what it was in my head originally, so I have to completely rewrite these and/or add several to cover the mocks and everything else I need". So in the end it's usually just creating a test file and filling it out later. Over time, I saw that shift into not caring as long as people had tests, which is the real reason for it in the first place.
>lookout for work needs to know your position to protect you against blablaHoly mother of goy they can fuck off
>one-line hotfix pr for a worthless client broke production for our biggest client (clanker said it was ok to merge)it was nice knowing you guys
>>109950648oh you are totally right and I understand your fustration I shouldn't have merged that just yetto resolve this I can go back and reassess the situation with this new information that you just provided and address the issue at its root
>>109950648which one was it
>my mental health>vs ability to cover its state with edgy memes>having a relationship can be replaced by being praised by managersTime to work even harder. That's the correct mindset to become as cool as Musk.
>>109950648>he doesnt have automated smoke tests before deployingngmi
>>109948900>Why are you even in this thread then?are you confused? this is the tech WORKERS general, NOT the UNEMPLOYED or STUDENT faggot general
They hired a new help desk jockey and she's a foid. But then it turns out she's actually pretty smart and eager to learn. I'm so pleasantly surprised...
Got my first PR merged (it was moving 2 lines of code from one function in one file to another function in a different file, using claude of course)I could get used to this
>>109952028Some women are fine in the workplace. You start seeing issues when the ratio grows above 20% then women start fighting each others, getting simps/white knights to fight for them. Also real issues is if you get a power hungry woman in a leadership position. At that point you get incompetence meet with mentally ill decision making. I can talk to the retarded male manager to eventually solve my problem, but a woman will treat it as a threat to her position.
how soon is too soon to update your linkedin when you get a new job? I want to make sure al of my high school friends know I'm not a loser but also don't want my manager(s) to think I'm going to job hop
>>109952120None of them give a shit about you anon.
>>109952120im going to do it the minute I get my new contract signed because I am now making more (and it's obvious with the shiny title and at a MUCH better company) that my dipshit boss at my last role and I want to dab on him after he denied my promotion
I want to host my web application. I want something cheap. a basic box. any recommendations?
>>109949984TDD is a time scam but TDD (s/development/debugging/) is a lifesaver
>>109951814>I'm ratatouille irlNobody even notices me when I'm doing my rat rat cokking things in the background.
okay but fr how did anyone like get anything done at large companies before claude? It's like I'll look at a ticket and then try to ctrl + f a string in the project and it has like hundreds of results and then there's like 50 different products in one repo and each product has like 20 nested foldersI've had like 4 meetings already where my teammates walk me through different parts of the code and how everything works together and I still can't find shit because there's so many different objects that do very specific things and then get killedlike were you expected to spend two months fucking around doing nothing before contributing? can any boomer elucidate?
>>109952232>like were you expected to spend two months fucking around doing nothing before contributing?yeah it's called knowledge, you ask a senior where to start and they point you at docs and quirks, and give you baby's first ticket
>>109952232>like were you expected to spend two months fucking around doing nothing before contributing? can any boomer elucidate?Yes, exactly. Not exactly 100% boomer But that way you gained a super important skill: reading code that isn't yours and focused on writing in a way that let's you continue coding even if you got a concussion and a hole in stomach and had to return to work after 2 months.
>>109952232You spent a lot of time looking at code in 1 product until you eventually felt confident enough to add to it. Over time as you added more and more stuff you'd be very comfortable with things. It was very time consuming but gave you a pretty good understanding of how things worked.
How do you even get an interview at FAGMAN at the senior level? Is there some kind of secret formula your resume needs to have? Do they only interview people who have prior FAGMAN experience or a degree from a top 10 CS school? I just don’t understand why I’ve never even once gotten an interview at these companies after a decade of applying to them when I meet 100% of the job requirements for every application I’ve submitted. It feels like I’m on the outside of some kind of secret club that makes it impossible for any outsider to get into.
>>109952397Go in person for a masters degree, make friends and use that sweet networking experience to get a position. Its pretty Shrimple.
>>109952411So nepotism is the only way to get an interview at those companies?
>>109952430At the senior level yes. If you get into FAGMAN at the entry level then you are going to suck wind for 5ish years to even get a chance to move up. Also Amazon is a good fagman entry even if the job/management are complete assholes.
>>109952397I got an interview at google, they talked through my experiences and I got rejected because when I said I did data consulting, I only talked to heads of data not ceos. It wouldn't have even made sense in my roles to talk to the ceo, but they had elitism boxes to check
>>109952430>>109949636
>>109952397It's incredibly difficult to get in at the senior level unless you have tons of big tech experience or are seriously cracked. Most of those roles are already filled internally by devs looking to get promoted and a lot of companies legally have to make those listings public even if they already have an internal candidate lined up.
>>109952459So it’s easier to get into faang at the junior level than at the senior level? I thought it was supposed to be the opposite because of the huge surplus of junior swe’s in the job market.
>>109952495Happened at my company. We used a manager in training to interview people for a few positions they were never going to get.
>>109952502Its not a real surplus. If you ever read the interviews being turned into your company you would understand that the quality requirements have gone up from just having a pulse too actual skills for the entry level. So if you never did internships in college its auto trashed, if you never worked with the tech clubs on campus its auto trashed, if you never had a second job working IT for the college or some dumb local PC repair place then trashed. If you don't have side projects that can be tested easily trashed. Before you just had to get through college, spell your name correctly, and not drown when taking a shower to get a job.
I feel like I've been grieving the loss of the future of this career path for the past year. It's clear that there is no future anymore, but I also can't escape it because it pays too well for me to give up and become a garbageman or whatever so I've just been in this state of slowly waiting for my job to disappear and never come back.I feel like quitting every second of every day but I have no idea what I would do afterwards because it's been the only thing I've ever been kinda good at that (was) worth anything.
>>109952531Is this post supposed to be satire or something? Because what you just described is an extremely high bar that very few people would be able to meet. I know you have to be able to solve hard leetcodes in very short time limits for these jobs. It’s only like the top 5% of top 10 cs school grads who are at this level, who probably all have at least an iq of 140.
>>109952538Don't take it lying down or in delusion like the redditors/snailcats. We KNOW AI is going to make a large percent of monkey coding dead, so train in the skillsets that might be boring or difficult, but at least you have a headstart in compared to the ones realizing too late.It doesn't have to be radical, you just need to be more of a public speaker and sales person than 90% of autistic tech people for example. It physically pains me to network but I've started putting more effort into it as well
>>109952572Its not satire but the very least if you can check box those requirements you can skip having to get a masters degree to do entry level bullshit.
>>109952579There’s nothing more delusional than thinking you’re going to make a career out of talking to a chatbot. Why would somebody pay you money to do that?
watching muted porn while on a Teams call I don't even give a fuck
>>109952614>Why would somebody pay you money to do that?I have coworkers that can't do some of the most basic Active Directory tasks *with* AI and still ask for my help. My company hires consultants for projects that I have been on calls with where they are literally vibe prompting Claude in front of me and no one bats an eye.
>Awww geee sorry anon they don't promote people any more awww shuuuuuucks man this suuuuuucks
>>109941131It's backwards. Unless you're a rare super genius, the higher positions mean less of the actual hands on stuff, like coding.One of the biggest early mistakes of my career was turning down a decent position at a fortune 50 company because it was very hands-off in terms of coding. Basically look at something, make sure there's no fuck ups and okay it to be published on their corporate site.Opted for a lower paying coding job at a marketing company where I would burn out after a couple of years.
>>109952966Rare super geniuses don't get good pay, hands-off positions, or higher hands-on positions. They rot in stable but low paid positions doing basically nothing all day, because they're not "social enough" and are "creepy". Their applications to other jobs get rejected before it even gets an interview call, because it contains a lot of "scary" achievements "which means he'll be too expensive".
>>109952174bumping for my question ya cunts
>>109953226>>/LGBT/
>>109953230wtf. theyre just going to tell me to open all the ports
>>109952614actually I get paid to make the big brain decisions and choose the correct strategies when implementing new features and fixing bugs and making sure that the code does what we expect and won't break again in 6 months.
>>109953526>>109953526>>109953526
>>109952691>mutedlmao
