>Price tracking
RAM: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ram/ram-price-index-2026-lowest-price-on-ddr5-and-ddr4-memory-of-all-capacities
SSD: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ssds/ssd-price-tracking-2026-lowest-price-on-every-m-2-ssd
GPU: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/lowest-gpu-prices-tracking

>GPU hierarchy 2026
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

Tier-list:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://borecraft.com/
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>Other helpful Links
Mobomaps: https://mobomaps.com/
German autism: https://www.igorslab.de/en/
Alternate to pcpartpicker: https://pangoly.com/en/pc-builder
HDD pricing: https://www.listofdisks.com/

>HDR related
Game fixes:
https://github.com/clshortfuse/renodx/wiki/Mods
https://github.com/KoKlusz/HDR-Gaming-Database
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/hardware/display-graphics/calibrate-your-hdr-display-using-the-windows-hdr-calibration-app

OLED news:
New stripe RGB QD-OLED panels with higher maximum brightness releasing in 2027 (DisplayHDR True Black 600 certified).
https://global.samsungdisplay.com/31456
https://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/oled-rgb-stripe-panels-explained-should-you-wait

I want rdna5 though

>>110037824
>you can make me suck cocks
POST IT THEN

>>110037824
>Expensive As Fuck
Lmao

I'm thinking of buying a Asus Prime AP303 case.
Will the airflow be fine with the only exhaust fan being the rear one? The top would be blocked by the desk.
I assume the mesh version is better for airflow (I prefer the looks too)?

>>110037906
AP303's suitability mostly depends on the expected power draw of the PC components.
The case's front intake is blocked by the PSU, you should stick to a sub-300W power draw video card and an X3D CPU if it's a gaming PC.
You could undervolt the GPU to draw around 200~250W as well.

Just a reminder DDR4 is back with new CPU rumored for it on both Intel and AMD

>>110037939
>Alderlake++++
>Zen3+++
Hell naw

>>110037918
It's just a Ryzen 7600 and a RTX 5050 currently and for the next few years, with plans for the last compatible x800/x900X3D and a 70 range GPU later.
Thanks.

>>110037951
I picked it if its only 10 to 15 % slower than current CPU gen

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I love my tiny case.

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>pried off the front panel and filled the hollow space with alubutyl sheets that are just the right thickness and taped them along with 1cm of memory cell foam on both side panels
I will test how frightening my genius is before removing the duct rape and applying each layer properly with the dedicated adhesive

>>110037988
I love my case how I love my women, big and spacious

Windows is a huge piece of shit

>>110038016
it just works for browsing the internet and playing games on my nvidia gpu

butyl and memory foam are actual magic
you can't even tell the computer is on aside from the pipey sound of fans spinning when fully loaded, and these are 90mm GPU fans at 30% FFS
it's unbelievable how it takes a literal decade for some people to do this

Need some tech support lads.
Got an elderly PC.
Gave it to my brother in law.
Every few months, it'll refuse to turn on.
I reseat the CMOS battery.
It turns back on.

Why?

>>110038061
The performance is too inconsistent on Windows. Today it's fast the next day it's laggy as shit.

>>110038085
works on my machine

>>110038068
Sounds like it could be a dying CMOS battery, but reseating it shouldn't normally fix a PC that won't power on at all. Try replacing it with a new CR2032 first. If that doesn't help, it could be a motherboard issue, a failing PSU, or a power-state problem. When it fails, do you get absolutely nothing (no fans or lights), or does it power on but fail to POST? Also, does unplugging it from the mains for a minute make any difference?

>>110038088
Remember when a Quad Core was fast as fuck on Windows? Not anymore an 8 core feels slower today.

>>110038097
It's because Indiana took over microsoft

>>110038097
my 8 core ryzen cpu is snappy af on win11, as i said works on my machine

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Now that nvidia doesn't give goyim a cut down top chip anymore how will next gen look? (if there even is one)

will there be a gb202-like 6090? or will they only release a step down die? if so, will it even beat a 5090 from today? and if they don't release the fastest they can, will they even compete with amd big gpu?

or will they resume giving goyim big die in 2028?

>>110038096
I'll provide as much detail as might be relevant, because I have a few theories myself, but I was hoping for just a "Yeah, it's X" kind of thing. Which might just be the CMOS.

>Computer is "Off" in that it's plugged into the wall with the PSU switched on.
>The motherboard has a red light on it, this stays lit for as long as it's plugged into the wall.
>Pressing the power button doesn't seem to do anything at all.
>Never had the issue when I owned the computer.
>Before giving it to my bother in law, I put it into a new case. This was a cheapo chinese case from Amazon. So, given it's the only thing that's changed, I can't help but wonder if it's shorting somehow.
>The PSU itself, the power switch is locked in the "On" position, the switch stopped working years ago, and I figured it's better to be stuck "On" than "Off". And the PC worked fine for years after.
>I personally kept the PC on pretty much 24/7, my bother in law is the kinda guy who turns his PC off every night.

I'll replace the CMOS battery, and then take a closer look at this chinky case, because thinking about it, I don't trust it.

New 240Hz/280Hz 4K QD-OLEDs when?

>>110038170
Honestly, I'd suspect the case installation or PSU before the CMOS battery. The motherboard LED confirms it's receiving standby power, but doesn't prove the PSU is healthy. Since the issue started after moving to a new case, I'd check for misplaced motherboard standoffs, shorts, trapped cables, and the case power switch wiring. The PSU switch being stuck on for years is also worth considering. Replace the CMOS battery as a cheap first step, but a dead CMOS battery shouldn't normally stop the PC responding to the power button entirely. My money would be on a case-related short or an ageing PSU.

>>110038203
next one is 360hz vstripe next year
there is a chance 240hz native tvs might come next year or maybe not they will milk it one more gen or whenever hdmi2.2 is coming to tvs and their controllers are redesigned so maybe not

>>110038203
360hz ones are coming pretty soon, q1 2027 perhaps
ROG Swift PG32UCDN would be one of the next tier up monitors

5070 worth £100 more than 5060tu 16gb?

>>110038167
It already got memoryholed but 4090 was also killed and replaced by the 80 super
6090 gr102 will be available when rubin launches unless gr103 is really that good and stomps on gb202 in perf and ppw

>>110038240
5070 is much better for gaming
16gb price only makes sense for people who gen loli porn at home

>>110038244
yh benchmarks the 5070 is quite a bit better but 12gb vram kinda shit

>>110038265
you can expect the industry to not push out games requiring massive amounts of vram for the next few years

>>110038219
>>110038239
But I don't want to pay for 360Hz.
I only want 240Hz/280Hz so I can frame-gen from 80 - 120 fps when I play single player games

>>110038283
they released 240hz qd oleds some years ago so you typing messages online rn seems kinda redundant

>>110038296
Not with the latest panel tech though

>>110038240
the 5060 ti is a 16x card pcie5 but has a x8 electrical layout giving it the same bandwidth of pcie4 x16, It only makes sense for pcie5 boards that bifurcate when both slots are occupied to x8. You get the 5070, you get 12 gb vram while the ti variant gives 16 gb vram. I would go for the cheapest best option being the 5070 ti, but if you buy a 5080 you minus well buy a 4090 or 5090 if you could.

>>110038243
some quiick research shows that next gen the dies for pro cards and gaymer cards will be entirely different so I guess that was pointless then
so they will make a large gaming rubin then
6090 it is
thank you jensen

>>110038301
You need to get the 360Hz panel next year if you want the best panel tech in 16:9 display ratio.
Monitors and PC components/peripherals are mass market goods.
You won’t find parts that meet your exact needs most of the time.
Either set a 240Hz display refresh rate limit or a MFG 3/4x limit.

>>110038283
a 360hz from any manufacturer other than asus will probably be cheaper though
>I only want 240Hz/280Hz so I can frame-gen from 80 - 120 fps when I play single player games
you cant use vrr at 240hz on 240hz it will be like 225hz though
on a 360 u can lol

>>110038341
>you cant use vrr at 240hz on 240hz it will be like 225hz though
That's why I also specified 280Hz
Looks like I'll just have to wait for a non-Asus 360Hz panel

https://www.microcenter.com/product/707412/MAG_272QP_QD-OLED_X24_265%22_2K_QHD_(2560_x_1440)_240Hz_Gaming_Monitor;_AMD_FreeSync_Premium_-_NVIDIA_G-Sync_Compatible;_HDR;_DisplayPort_HDMI_USB_Type-

my current monitor has a vertical line of pixels out but still good.

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>>110037824

>>110038439
whats the story behind images having random dots added to them

>>110038445
indian vibe coders training off bindis. we are truly living in the indian century.

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>>110038469
Convert to Hinduism and get your free ereshkigal

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>>110038485
I'm converting to linux

can someone make the bubble pop

>>110038573
Just accept that prices stay elevated until 2028
buy a new part at current prices or find a new hobby

>>110038107
Yeah right bitch ass zoomerfuck

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>>110038591
gaming is not a hobby, it's a way of life

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lol

>>110037939
I just bought the 5800x3d

>>110038573
Pop tech CEO heads.
100% effective

>>110038698
I just sold my 5800x3d thanks for buying it

I need new Nvidia drivers

>>110038674
I really hope this nigga pirated the game because having a 470 in the big 2026 and buying $60 games instead of saving that money to upgrade hardware it's just wild

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>>110038739
I bought it new

>>110038814
nta but can i cum on it

>>110038825
Muh thermal compound

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how more expensive is ddr4 compared to ddr5 anyways, and how much does it affect your gaming experience

>>110038856
90fps on DDR4
100fps on DDR5

I played at 60 - 75fps anyway so i dont give a shit about DDR5

>>110038870
that's not too bad at all

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First time built. But i noticed that MB is always at 17°celsius lol
installed all drivers, and updated bios too...
both progs show me 17°temp
(running 4 game clients at this moment, that's why cpu&gpu are warm)

>>110038856
>>110038874
the ddr5 experience is next gen if setup correctly, its hard to describe unless you actually use it. but if you have it not set up correctly you will know its not next gen as its the same as ddr4 or worse crashes on the windows desktop.

>>110038915
following a tutorial can't be that hard

>>110038874
>>110038915
The only good thing DDR5 is good at is the CPU is powerful enough to do PS5 emulation.

>>110038353
haven seen any 280hz rumours
maybe the 360 will be sold for the same as the 240 tops ends now
or maybe not
who knows
displays are overpriced to tvs anyway
should litearlly be 4x cheaper but oh well

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>>110038897
Use HWInfo64, there are unused sensors in the super I/O chip.
You can hide those unused readings.

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>>110038897
This is my idle

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can someone explain to me why is this selling for $3,500 in my cunt? is it laptop ram or whatever? what's the deal with the price?
Ram Lenovo 4x77a99751 16gb Ddr5, 5600mhz

https://youtube.com/watch?v=tdPC9tY4fec

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A.i. is going to make it so we can steal musicians music and make fake nickleback songs.

>>110039019
I think we're already there mang
Everything is everything now
Everything is slop
Slop is all encompassing

hell as in the afterlife chamber of suffering is not even real because hell is right here on earth

>>110039019
Yeah just hold your breath bro 2 more weeks

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these past 3 days I've been doing nothing but browsing 4chan and watching youtube videos instead of playing videogames
although to be fair im tackling a really bad videogame

how good are 1660 super for gaming?
Not really planning to play AAA games released after 2020 and really just planning to play gacha games in general... prices here are going insane that I'm going insane as well.

>>110038934
AM5 AGESA is very picky about ram

>>110038935
DDR5 is needed for its stutter free bank refresh mode

Is the Fractal Design - Define R5 still worth it in the year of our lord 2028? 2028 because I'll be damned if I get ram at the cost it is now. I don't think I'll ever exceed 1440p or 60fps for muh games and the ryzen 9600x looks like a spicey processor for shitty doom wads on gzdoom.

>>110039345
depends on the gacha game, you can probably play genshin impact and gacha games with chibis but I don't think you'll be able to play ue5 gacha games

>>110039452
No
You want high airflow case like meshify 3
Idk why they dont include 4 usb slots in the front tho

>>110039466
yeah at this point, I'm not picky atm. I see it can Wuthering Waves in 60fps 1080p. which is coincidentally what I'm looking for...

>>110039760
1080p looks like shit. if you don't plan on doing creative work like blender or stuff like that why don't you go for a amd card instead and upgrade to a 1440p monitor

the final blackpill is 4k ultra performance dlss/fsr looks better than 1440p dlaa/fsr aa whilst offering similar performance

>>110039643
but muh ambient noise level. TT
I've been sitting next to a HAF 912 mid tower with premium fans set on low for years. I'm trying to strike a balance between constant low ambient and loud as shit when temps as the video card gets hot.

>>110039853
Oh well high airflow case means you can run gpu/cpu fans slower at max rpm and achieve same performance at lower noise levels

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been using noise canceling headphones for years now, they're practically tailor made to negate the sound of fans
which is good because instead of trying to actually fix my thermal issues when i upgraded my pc and kept my old shitty case and inadequate number of old shitty fans i just took the side of the case off

I am looking to upgrade my current mobo and processor (A320M-HDV 4.0, Ryzen 3 1200). The case is a ATX mid tower. I would like to keep the DDR4 RAM given the current state of things.

I am putting a 3060 in this as well. Is a 600w PSU enough of should I drop the cash on something that can handle more?

>>110039965
you could slot in a 50xx x3d cpu in that mobo
what do you hope to achieve by changing it unless you go am5

>>110039979
That's not a bad idea either.

Actual ignorant retard here. what's the deal with undervolting? how can it give you more fps and at the same time making the card consume less electricity? Is it because the lower electricity consumption makes the card run cooler so no thermal throttling = more fps?

>>110040004
Its tuned to give it safe amount of volts so it doesnt crash at any circumstance normally.
But that causes more heat, which means more thermal throttling.
Cooler cpu has more room to boost and whatnot

>>110040017
Is it better to not mess around with undervolting and overclocking in the 50 series given the hotspots thing....?

>>110040033
for gpus msi afterburner is pretty safe and easy so theres no real reason not to do it

>>110040050
Basically as long as you monitor the temperatures you should be completely safe?

>>110040060
The temps go down when you undervolt, its not relevant.

The thing to follow is making sure the card is stable and doesnt crash. Usually you can undervolt to a certain level and it wont show up immediately until a specific combination of elements happen in a game which causes the game to crash and you need to up the volts

I have a 9070XT (Power cooler Red Devil), bought when it was released, it was flawless up until now. Recently my PC won't wake from sleep and I have to do a hard reboot. Most recently I literally had to do a CMOS reset to get the PC to POST. Other reviews mention the same issues and I was considering just saying fuck it, cutting my losses, and picking up a 5080 since I don't really wanna deal with this shit anymore.

>>110040090
the pc booting isnt related to gpu?
I agree 5080 is probably more fun gpu to use if you can sell the amd one

kek radeon claims another one

>>110040113
Yeah, it's specifically black screen and the drivers aren't being reinitialized.

My Nvidia driver won't recover

>>110040090
larp post, right?

>>110040138
Nope.

https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/rngCZQ
i am building a pc from the sodimms i already have. these are the updated parts, but the ram are sodimms with the same specs as the ones in the link, and the mobo is this: https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/motherboards/csm/pro-q870i-c-csm/. pcpart doesn't have the mobo i bought, and i added that one to check compatibilities.
i still have to buy a cpu cooler, a gpu, a case and a monitor. any suggestions? i live in Italy

>>110040148
whats the usecase

>>110040148
that price for the 5070ti is disgusting id feel better spending on the 5080 if im spending that much

>>110039835
the final blackpill is you shouldnt buy lower res display

>>110040090
>he found out

5080 owners are retarded

>>110040159
vr gaming (hp reverb g2, might upgrade in future), 1440p gaming (modded cp, modded ksp, mh wilds), light video editing. i usually game in a poorly lit environment

>>110040233
Right, then you def want a 16gb nvidia gpu, if you can find 5070 ti for <1000 or 5080 for <1350€ either of those.

Theres 360hz 4k qd oled monitors coming out next year so those would be best.
meshify 3 is a good high airflow case.
noctua aio is best cpu cooler but overpriced and a chink air cooler would do the job

>>110040075
Okay so it's all trial and error and having patience

>>110040090
>Recently my PC won't wake from sleep
This has to do with unstable CPU and/or memory.

>>110040270
or googling "safe undervolt [my gpu] reddit"

>>110040289
That's not fun

>>110040275
So how was it fine for a year+, nothing changed ad then suddenly these issues?

>>110040303
If you left EXPO on, you should be concerned with possible CPU degradation.
>So how was it fine for a year+, nothing changed
You can say the same for the Red Devil.

Easiest way to check is to use the iGPU in your CPU to test wake from sleep.
I'd believe it was the Red Devil's issue if the PC woke up from sleep with no display.

>>110040326
>I'd believe it was the Red Devil's issue if the PC woke up from sleep with no display.

That's exactly what's going on. I'll maybe try some stuff with the drivers. I really don't want to drop money on a new gfx card and I think if the card was failing I would be seeing more issues than what i am now or maybe it's just the starts but other users have reported the same.

What's a good case that can fit an RTX 4090?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/127969552578?_skw=aorus+master+4090&itmmeta

This is the card I have.

>>110038573
Yes, next year.

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>>110040352
Depends on your budget/aesthetic taste but a good inexpensive modern case (with USB Type C 3.2 connectivity) is the Montec Air 903 Max for $80:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2MwmP6/montech-air-903-max-atx-mid-tower-case-air-903-max-b
and Corsair FRAME 4000D RS for $75:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Mjy8TW/corsair-frame-4000d-rs-argb-atx-mid-tower-case-cc-9011296-ww

Other options that support your 4090:
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/case/#gl=360000000,635000000&sort=price&D=16,4,8&t=4,3
Chart benchmarks:
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/fractal-design-pop-2-vision-rgb/8.html

>>110038739
I kept my 5800X3D system despite rocking a 9950X3D. A secondary system is reassuring in uncertain times like these.

>>110040424
so uhm january the first 2027, r-right? that's quite soon

>>110040451
Thank you.

Would this case fit a 4090 as well?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KFAG6DA/

>>110039979
>>110039990
> A320M-HDV
> Supports CPU up to 65W
57/5800X3D TDP is 105W

>>110040553
5800x3d with a 65W TDP limit will still perform well, d e s u. That's the boon of Ryzen, any shit motherboard will give you decent single ccd performance.

>>110040534
https://phanteks.com/product/enthoo-pro-tg/#Specifications
>472 mm | 18.5 in*
>*347 Mm | 13.6 In With HDD Cage

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-4090.c3889
>The card's dimensions are 304 mm x 137 mm x 61 mm
Yes for most stock cards it should, though if you've got an especially long AIB 4090 that's over 347 mm in length you'd have to take out the included HDD cage to make room for it.

>>110040553
https://www.asrock.com/mb/amd/a320m-hdv%20r4.0/index.asp#CPU

whats the pc build if i want to latencymax

>>110040606
you can do that by buying a nintendo switch 2

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>>110040606
>latencymax

>>110040162
The prices of all GPUs have become disgusting.
You can find that card elsewhere for under €1300 but the 5080 is €1700. You get a 9800X3D for the difference.

>>110040227
4090 owner here agrees.

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should I spend $2000 on an anthros chair

>>110040253
You can (still) find a 5070 Ti under €1350 but not a 5080.

>>110040553
>>110040569
Thanks for the heads up. Do you have a certian CPU that is the best bang for the buck that is compatible with said mobo?

>>110040673
Yes

>>110040679
Best bang for buck, probably a Ryzen 5500. Should still be like 70% the performance of the 5800x3d for 25% the cost.

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>>110040352
I got the Metal Panel version.
Fits my 4090 and provides plenty of cool air to it.
Fits an ALF3 420 in top after a tiny mod of the cover.
Fits standard office chair casters in the bottom to get this behemoth mobile.

>>110037824
MIKU SEX
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>>110040673
you should spend $20 on a monthly gym membership instead and solve any posture issues you are hoping to fix with a new chair

>>110040606
Hynix ram
Hynix vram

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>>110040679
Buy the 5800X3D, it usually doesn't draw that much power.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-5800x3d-10th-anniversary/20.html
Set a 65W power limit if you're worried

>>110040595
> https://www.asrock.com/mb/amd/a320m-hdv%20r4.0/index.asp#CPU
Okay, that anon should update the BIOS first.

>>110040731
No need for a gym membership, you can perform planks at home

>>110040745
Haha, just buy a 14600k and buy a ddr4 Mobo with like 6VRMs, bro...

>>110040679
Just update the BIOS of your mobo. See >>110040595
It will then support the 5800X3D, the best gaming CPU you can get for the AM4 platform.

>>110040731
its not about posture issues though I just want a good chair thats comfortable, won't break or peel after a year and isn't built like shit

>>110040769
Except the 14600K doesn't have a 3D-Vcache that lowers gaming power consumption.
5800X3D will smoke a 14600K when both are running at 65W power limits.

>>110040721
I'll get that. Not bad being under $100. Might as well get a new cooler as the one that came with it has seen better days.

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is the libernovo omni chair good

>>110040673
once my RealLife(tm) begins I will boughterize a new chair, desk
one day

>>110040790
get a sofa and 65" oled tv

>>110040812
>Is __ good
nobody can tell that you have to try them
I wouldnt boughterize that chink chair tho. something like a HM you know you get 12+ years warrnaty and they will ship you a new chair and have good customer service
or buy something else from your locally produced companies in your country
many office retailers that arent in burgeristan
most burgerbrands are not even available here in europe that easily either so

>>110040812
Go to a decent office furniture store and demo it.

>>110040826
my RealLife(tm) won't start until I have a 77" oled...

should i get the 9950x3d

>>110040958
no, you need a 9950x3d2.

i want a girlfriend

>>110040984
You can wait until q1 2027 and buy a zen 6 cpu

>>110041010
im tired of being a waitfag

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should i buy a Li Suan lx 7g100?
i wanna play genshin impact

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this would be comfy

>>110041034
nigga you can dock your phone to a monitor and play genshin

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>>110040827
after watching chair review videos for an hour i've decided to settle on the libernovo omni se, idc that its chink shit it looks great

>>110041035
Is that for some jap suicide flat with 20sq m of space where it doubles as a bed

>>110041045
i wanna use mods

>>110041099
https://www.crateandbarrel.com/lounge-89-queen-trundle-sleeper-sofa/s520448

https://www.samsung.com/us/tvs/qled-tv/50-inch-neo-qled-4k-qn70h-sku-qn50qn70hafxza/

Just luxury shit i can't afford

>>110041035
truee, there's enough space for you to suck my cock while i play videogames

>>110041131
The only thing that's gonna be sucking is you at video games while I plow your mom beside u

>>110041139
looks like i struck a nerve lmao

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>>110041149
Get this goy out of my face

>>110041126
What if you worked at a job for 2 months so you could afford seating and a 700€ tv

>>110041160
sybau cracker

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>>110041172
who u callin cracka, dawg

>>110040788
I think I'll do that. I needed to update the BIOS anyways.

>>110041187
bitch ass cracker

Can a 9070XT run 4k games with medium-high settings and get above 100 frames?

>>110041214
sure
with performance mode upscaling and frame gen anything is possible

>>110040643
>latencymin
ftfy
too bad most people are stuck in cartesian dualism
up is le good, down is le bad
god have mercy on our souls

>>110040643
>millennial """humor"""

>>110041255
but debra wilson is easy to work with...

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If you guys are having strange display issues, completely power drain your monitor before you take more drastic measures (changing hardware settings, rolling back drivers, etc.)

Unplug the monitor's power cable for 10~20 minutes.
This eventually clears the scalar & firmware memory and resets stuck hardware handshakes with your GPU.

>>110041340
heres a less retarded version of this advice
Unplug monitor, press power button for 30 sec

Windows Key + Ctrl + Shift + B to restart graphics driver

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Mfw I learnt that 4k performance mode looks better than 1440p quality

>>110041408
4k ultra performance looks better than 1440p dlaa

>>110041411
1440p quality looks better than dlaa most of the time

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>ADATA XPG LANCER BLADE EXPO/XMP 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 C46 5600MHz

>TeamGroup Delta RGB EXPO/XMP 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-44800C30 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit - White (FF4D532G6000HC30DC01)

Is there much of a difference in gaming performance between C46 5600Mhz and C30 6000Mhz? CPU is a Core Ultra 7 270K Plus.

>>110041536
For that cpu the ideal ram is 7200mhzcl36 but 6000cl30 is passable. 5600cl46 is pretty slow.

>>110041536
cl46 is cooked and giga overpriced. cl46 is minus 10-15 fps in your gaymes

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>>110041536
https://www.igorslab.de/en/jedec-ddr5-9000-intel-arrow-lake-refresh-ryzen-9000-x3d-ram-scaling/6/
>>110041552 is correct and there is a fair difference, but I seriously doubt the premium in today's market is gonna be worth it.

>>110041588
Nta but do you still see that increase in fps even even if you don't have a high end card?

>>110039391
I dont know what that means. I dont play Competitive games anyway

>>110041662
>Nta but do you still see that increase in fps even even if you don't have a high end card?
No, you already have to have a pretty high-end GPU to not be the weakest bottleneck before RAM starts to matter.

>>110041707
does that mean that a am4 system with decent ram speeds and cl can squish everything that a 9060xt/5060ti can offer?

>>110041799
am4 realistically caps out between 144-165hz
am5 is for 240-280hz
demanding settings + vrr will bring you down to half that

>>110040984

is PC Building General thread
go play out as get some money

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>>110041699
DRAM cells lose electrical charge over time. Memory controllers must issue periodic refresh commands to restore this lost charge. During the refresh operation, the controller targets specific memory banks and locks them completely. This hardware lock blocks incoming read and write requests instantly. A locked DRAM bank cannot process CPU data requests. The system must queue or stall all incoming operations targeting that specific bank until the cycle completes.

Modern DDR5 memory modules introduce Fine-Grained Refresh (FGR) modes to minimize operational delays. Instead of locking all memory banks simultaneously, FGR breaks down commands into smaller, distributed operations. Shorter lockup times significantly reduce peak queue wait times. This approach softens the latency impact on application threads by preventing massive backlog buildup in the memory controller queues thus mitigates severe p99 tail latency spikes.

>>110041868
Use case in real world ??

>>110041966
Mitigates rowhammer exploit a real malware threat in servers and desktops, the performance benefit is a bonus.

>>110042029
So nothingburger. I use my PC for 3d animation + Aislopping + Gaming

One of my case fans legit doesn't spin at all. It's 1 of my 2 front intake fans. Just gonna ride it out and buy some new ones when they go on sale hehe

>>110042041
>So nothingburger.
A locked DRAM bank cannot process CPU data requests. It cannot process reads or writes. You know what happens? Stutter and hard faults.

>>110042055
Stutter only a problem on Competitive games

>>110042052
it spins, you just have to push it with your fingers, see~ :3

>>110041868
Also FGR is most useful for single rank setups since normal mode locks out an entire rank of memory to refresh each time
Dual rank doesn't care much either way since the other rank can still function while one rank is being refreshed

>>110040660
I wish I never sold my 4090 after upgrading to my 5090
It's the best GPU Nvidia's ever made

>>110042156
Uh yeah but who cares ?

>>110041868
This is wrong in several places. FGR is a DDR4 feature, not DDR5, and it does not "break commands into distributed operations across banks." It just issues shorter refresh commands more often (2x/4x), and since tRFC doesn't shrink proportionally, total refresh overhead can go up, so you're trading throughput for a lower worst-case stall. The per-bank behavior you're crediting to FGR is actually same-bank refresh (REFsb), a separate DDR5 mechanism that blocks one bank per bank group, while standard all-bank refresh blocks the entire rank, not "specific banks." You've mixed up two different features and presented it with total confidence. Read the JEDEC spec (JESD79-5) before explaining this to other people.

>>110042187
Dual rank chads don't need to worry about silly things like bank refresh modes, it's utterly irrelevant to their daily experience

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This thread is making my man pussy dry.

>>110042200
kek

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>GPU I boughted a week ago for 800eur is now restocked at 870eur
Christmas is going to be a bloodbath

>>110042195
I still dont understand what you said But in real life scenario theres no difference from DDR4 and DDR5 except extra 10fps in gayming

>>110042264
The only real difference is access to faster cpus now and in the future. Zen4/5 and arrow lake were pretty mid barring the 9800x3d but Zen6 and Nova Lake are looking like real generational upgrades.

>>110042195
Dual rank benefits even more because theres more banks.

>>110042276
But in the future CPU are back to using DDR4 ram with performance near 9000 series ryzen

>>110042276
Zen4 was a huge upgrade because of raw clock speed improvements and a faster fclk
Zen5% sucked

>>110042284
No? The only cpus that will be released for ddr4 in the future will be raptor lake next which will just be 14600k/14700k refreshes

>>110042293
A 9800x3d is a huge upgrade compared to a 7800x3d, what gives?

>>110042293
Zen4 was only an upgrade over zen3 it still lost to raptor lake w ddr5

>>110042298
There are strong rumor AMD and Intel to make their last gen CPU to compatible with DDR4 ram due to rampocalypse.

>>110042309
Absolutely no such rumours exist except Intel releasing a raptor lake refresh.

>>110042316
Its not raptor lake refresh

>>110042326
Either way, it's going to be limited by DDR4 bandwidth, let's call it arrow leashed

>>110042326
Yes it is https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-prepares-another-Raptor-Lake-refresh-for-2027-Gigabyte-confirms.1420444.0.html

>>110042336
None of these cpus will be faster than the 14900k anyway, the peak of ddr4 already exists you don’t need to wait for these new cpus

>>110042332
If its faster than 5800x3d, its a win for me

>>110042343
Im not gonna upgrade to ddr5 dude. Did you see 64gb of Ram price is ???

>>110042301
Its 2 years newer and less than 10% better than the previous generation. Literally the worst %/year improvement in the history of zen

>>110042350
You don’t have to do anything nigga im just telling you ddr4 is a solved platform with the 14900k/5800x3d/5900xt don’t expect anything better.

>>110042336
It's just a rebin of the 14600k and 14700k under a new name
Not even an upgraded stepping or anything so it's not worth talking about lol

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>>110042301
>huge upgrade

>>110042354
Have faith anon. New CPU will defeat 5800x3d and come close to ryzen 9000 performance

>>110042359
Ddr4 niggas living in dreamland thinking either amd or Intel give af when they are getting ready for zen6/nova lake

>>110042368
We're just in a slow news period rn
Come next year, the 144mb L3$ and new cores with higher IPC of zen6/novalake will memoryhole raptorlake next and zen3++ into oblivion

you guys think I'd have better luck selling my ram on facebook or ebay

>>110042361
It's kinda a massive fuck up that AMD did absolutely nothing with the success they've had whist Intel completely fell on their face.

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Jensen actually used to be based and have life in his eyes, i miss him.

>>110042395
you’re going to get scammed either way

>>110042407
Ask Claude to create Time Machine, and go back in time to kill Jensen

>>110042411
how will i

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>>110042361
It's because you're a doofus and posted benches that are GPU limited. 7800x3d = 5800x3d perf +30fps
9800x3d = 7800x3d + 30fps
What gives?

>>110042429
ebay always sides with the buyer so he’s just going to say nothing arrived and will get refunded, facebook you’ll probably get robbed by some niggers

>>110042407
The Jews got to him huh...

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>>110042434
>>110042361
Here's another super niche game, like cyberpunk 2077. 25 fps gain from 5800x3d to 7800x3d, 25 fps gain from 7800x3d to 9800x3d, wow, zen5%!

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>>110042434
>Cherry picking one game
Lol, lmao even
9800x3d = 7800x3d +8%

>>110042436
but ill trade at the police station

>>110042446
>>110042447
>>110042434
>720p
omegalul

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>>110042446
Yeah and when you average all the benchmarks together you get 5% retarded nigger, unlike with the 7800x3d and 5800x3d which is consistently 20-30% faster.

>>110042447
Bro, you're doing the equivalent of telling us people bought a Ferrari but according to their average speed over the interstate, it can only do 120mph, that's not even trolling

>>110042434
>>110042446
>720p
Post Real world scenario. No one is retarded enough to buy top tier cpu but only have gt710 gpu

>>110042465
At 720p, it's already on the Autobahn
If you're comparing it at 1080p or greater, it's less than 5% better than the 7800x3d

>>110042462
this is why averaging benchmarks is useless (manipulative)

If you can't afford the latest QD Tandem OLEDS

Is it better to stick with IPS?

Budget OLEDs still bad for burn in, VRR flicker, pixel layout?

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>>110042470
In the real world there is zero difference even on games that love 3d vcache

>>110042483
Even the cheapest shittiest matte 1st generation Oled is better than the most expensive ips for the instant response times alone.

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>>110042458
>>110042470

>>110042484
People should start putting more focus on 1080p and 720p benchmarks due to how prevalent upscaling is now and the most common internal rendering resolutions are in between those two resolutions

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The best part about these cpu tests is they dont even matter for GPUs weaker than the 5080.

7800x3d>9800x3d just because they aren’t burning
>inb4 asrock
Its happened on every single motherboard vendor now it is 100% a 9800x3d issue

>>110042470
The discussion isn't "is a Ryzen 5600 enough for gaming?", it's "was a 9800x3d a disappointment in terms of performance gain generation over generation?", but then we get scrubs talking about GPU-bound games and saying it doesn't matter.
Whip out the cities skylines 2 benchmarks, cowards.

i got 5090 with 9800x3d and 32 gb of ram
is there anything i can upgrade to make ai video generation of straight shota faster

>>110042492
720p testing is inherently CPU bound
Not our problem that 9800x3d scales very badly in 2/3rds of games and require a cherry picked game to show >15% uplift

>>110040728
this

>>110042518
you need a blackwell 6000 and a 9950x3d2

>>110042511
In real world scenario, CPU only matters for Emulation.... or Scienty stuff. AI / 3d / Gaming, only GPU matters.

>>110042530
Wrong, every good game is CPU bound.

>>110042488
response time isn't everything. pixel sharpness and VRR flicker are big issues and even dealbreakers

>>110042518
you could sell the GPU and rent 1000+ hours of a B300 with 288gb of vram

>>110042552
2005 called, its time to go back.

32GB quad channel vs 32GB dual channel?

>>110042572
dual

>>110042571
2005 called, your taste in games has eroded, since then.

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>>110042693
i'm gonna turn my 5070 ti card into a girlfriend.

Has anyone here went to china to increase the vram of their 4000/5000 series?

>>110042571
2005 sounds pretty good no lie

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If I want to emulate ps3 and im building a new pc, is going for an Intel cpu my best option? ps3 emulation is really hard, if i choose Intel i can buy a 14600k which are cheap and pair it with ddr4
if i had to go with amd i'd have to pick an am5 cpu and with the current ddr5 prices that's no bueno
thoughts?

>>110042847
DDR4 + AM4 able to emulate up to PS4 games.
Source : Me finished Gravity Rush on ShadPS4

need a mouse similar to g203 where the mouse isnt rubber any reccs?

>>110042864
*where the mouse wheel

>>110042851
the ps3 is built completely different
rpcs3.net/cputierlist

>>110037824
wew lad

>>110042847
who this cutie?

>>110042872
What game you want to play ? If its GoW3, the remastered version on ShadPS4 play much better

>>110042872
The problem is that graph is fairly useless, because a 14600k with 3600cl18 RAM is outperformed quite a bit by the same CPU using DDR5 6000

>>110042880
demon souls and drakengard 3
>>110042886
ram speed doesn't matter that much for ps3 emulation, it's mostly the cpu

>>110042847
How cheap are we talking? For PS3 emulation in particular, a 7600x costs half the price of a 14600k where I'm at, and has lower VRM reqs, and abundant cheap motherboards available

>>110042896
Demon Souls can run on Potato PC lol. My old ass 1600x able to run it at full speed..

>>110042903
around the same price of a 7600x
think about the fact that if i go with am5 im gonna have to spend so much in ram
>>110042904
post benchmarks and also try out drakengard 3

>>110042912
I dont have the CPU anymore. Just youtube it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YzcxFFX17k

>>110042919
i don't wanna play at native resolution 30fps, it's gonna look horrible

>>110042929
60fps on 5800x non 3d
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ej2DV2I-y9A

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>>110042944
okay this wins. that channel also happened to have a drakengard 3 benchmark, thanks

>>110042847
Launch month 12900k is better since it supports avx512 on Asus boards

Is 60 fps really enough for gaming?

>>110043220
no

>>110043220
yes for single player
not at all if you're a competive multiplayer games try hard

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I have an i3 7100, 8gb of ram, and a 1050. I would like to upgrade because of shitty performance in grand strategy games. I don't want to spend that much. Which upgrade paths are there?

>>110043324
If it's 100-series or 200-series chipset, you are restricted to 6th and 7th gen. What is the mobo? If it's ddr3L RAM it's not worth upgrading. How many sticks if ddr4? If it's 1 8GB throw another 8gb in there and get a cheap i5/i7. If you really want to "upgrade" you could also drop a 1080 in there.