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Discussion and Development of Local Image, Video, and Audio Models

Previous: >>110073382

https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide

>UI
ComfyUI: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI
SwarmUI: https://github.com/mcmonkeyprojects/SwarmUI
SDWebUI: https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide#the-stable-diffusion-web-ui-lineage
Wan2GP: https://github.com/deepbeepmeep/Wan2GP
Neural-Pixel (sd.cpp): https://github.com/Luiz-Alcantara/Neural-Pixel

>Checkpoints, LoRAs, & Upscalers
https://huggingface.co/models
https://huggingbay.xyz
https://civitai.com
https://civitaiarchive.com
https://openmodeldb.info

>Tuning
https://github.com/spacepxl/demystifying-sd-finetuning
https://github.com/ostris/ai-toolkit
https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainer
https://github.com/tdrussell/diffusion-pipe
https://github.com/kohya-ss/sd-scripts
https://github.com/kohya-ss/musubi-tuner

>Qwen Image 2.1
https://huggingface.co/Qwen/Qwen-Image-2.1

>Minimax H3
https://huggingface.co/Comfy-Org/MiniMax-H3
https://neta.art/use-cases/en/h3-1000-prompt-list

>Anima
https://huggingface.co/circlestone-labs/Anima
https://animastyles.thetacursed.com
https://tagexplorer.github.io/
https://animadex.net

>Krea 2
https://huggingface.co/krea/Krea-2-Raw
https://huggingface.co/krea/Krea-2-Turbo
https://lumenastrum.github.io/clio-style-preview/gallery/

>Klein
https://huggingface.co/collections/black-forest-labs/flux2

>Misc
Share Metadata: https://catbox.moe | https://litterbox.catbox.moe/
Txt2Img Plugin: https://github.com/Acly/krita-ai-diffusion
Archive: https://rentry.org/sdg-link
Collage: https://rentry.org/neo_collage

>Neighbors
>>>/aco/csdg
>>>/b/degen
>>>/gif/vdg
>>>/d/ddg
>>>/e/edg
>>>/h/hdg
>>>/trash/slop
>>>/vt/vtai
>>>/u/udg

>Local Text
>>>/g/lmg
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>>110079328
>Maintain Thread Quality
https://rentry.org/debo
https://rentry.org/animanon

Odds of Krea 3 being open-sourced as promised?
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Blessed thread of frenship
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>>110079436
>Odds of Krea 3 being open-sourced as promised?
30%
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>>110079436
>Odds of Krea 3 being open-sourced as promised?
50%, either they do it, or they don't.
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any anons care to share an H3 workflow or some general tips for someone who tried it week1 and is just now returning to give it another go? it seems alot has changed, so many different methods and tweaks since then.
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>>110079497
what to share?
just use official templates
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>>110079328
Deboshit :(
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>>110079328
>Maintain Thread Quality
https://rentry.org/debo
https://rentry.org/animanon
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flux 3 just got fucking destroyed lol.
https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1x796qs/here_we_go_again_mossimage/#lightbox
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>>110079638
trained on 3.2B images, 5B, apache 2.0. Supports JSON / BBOX but does not require it. Knows both natural language and booru tag based prompting.

Oh. And its the least censored base model so far btw. Here is with a crappy simple prompt: https://files.catbox.moe/6irxjh.png
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>>110079638
its trained on booru tags which is huge
knows lots of characters
feels like anima that can also do realistic stuff really well
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>>110079630
Great image, strange noise pattern. Looks like updated Gemini
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>- **Exception Message:** ValueError: too many values to unpack (expected 3)

Why does every comfyui update just break everything
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>>110079661
just shitty filter, which is why I deleted it.
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>>110079669
 pip install -r requirements.txt 

?
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>>110079638
No editing / multiref is a killer though. Hopefully someone will finetune it since it's Apache 2 and smol
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>>110079638
is this it
are we finally back!!?
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>>110079719
seems like it might beat krea 2. Better small details. Even more uncensored. Knows a fuck ton. BBOX, booru tags...
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>>110079638
someone make convrot
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>>110079638
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>>110079744
Enough params to not be dead weight, adequate size, booru tag support is nice, character recognition is great, bbox support is huge. Can't wait to test it
Chinese overlords taking over once again
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Chinese culture status?
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>>110079744
>Better small details. Even more uncensored
Idk anon, I'll give it a go but whatever this preview image is doesn't seem better than Krea
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>raped by h3
>raped by mossimage
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>>110079839
It feels like china times their release just to fuck with BFL
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it knows some fetish shit out of the box lol
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>>110079834
you picked out the worst image in the bunch
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Can it do cute pp's tho?
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>>110079638
Neat, I was just getting bored enough to try Qwen Image 2.1. Handy of them to make it installable through ComfyUI's manager too. I might still wait for base ComfyUI support though.
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MOSS seems great as a local image model, small, good gens, I'm sure there is a catch, it probably trains like shit, or everyone just ignores it and waits for the next quadrillion b model that'll be forgotten in a month
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>>110079510
what about improvements to speed and such? arnt anons using caching and other methods like turba loras? Im trying the offical template but feel like there has to be more to it / better ways
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kill ani
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how do i un-hag krea2 prompt?
Do I have to use the base model for it?
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>>110079941
nah, training well on just tag captioning.
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>>110079941
Booru tag support is big if true. Gotta see how it stacks up against Anima.
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>>110079942
The template workflow does have an optional turbo-lora switch that helps. My other suggestion would be trying Comfy Kitchen attention, especially if you aren't already using sage or something. (There's either a node you can insert into the workflow, or you can launch ComfyUI with --use-ck-attention to use it for everything.)

>>110079945
Try the TextFusion lora?
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>>110079688
I strongly suspect people who run into problems after a pull just don't know you're supposed to do this. Also manager_requirements.txt if you're running with --enable-manager.
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Moss. not perfect but the best for a base model so far. Give it a month
https://files.catbox.moe/5bbayb.png
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cozy breas
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>>110080033
Base but >>110079879
?
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>>110079638
>the team is using coomer pics to advertise the model
Based beyond belief
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>>110080033
ah hell naw what unc making bruh keeeeeeeeeeeeek yo what the skibidi is that? nah nga JSID
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https://huggingface.co/nif0/MOSS-Image-SFT-ComfyUI/tree/main
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>>110079688
>>110079669
could be a custom node - look into the console

btw new flux is good
better than shitty qwen
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>>110080139
https://huggingface.co/speridlabs/iris-3b
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Moss is uncensored but it's not good. Chroma/Kroma and Krea are better.
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>>110080173
Moss bad?
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>>110080007
>The template workflow does have an optional turbo-lora
mine doesnt, but its the day 1 template, ill see if theres a new one thanks
>My other suggestion would be trying Comfy Kitchen attention, especially if you aren't already using sage or something. (There's either a node you can insert into the workflow, or you can launch ComfyUI with --use-ck-attention to use it for everything.)
Neat, is the node offical/included by default? whats the name?
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>>110080194
Yeah, plastic textures, limited world knowledge, bad anatomy on some complex realism prompts that are nailed by models like Krea, Flux.2 Klein, Chroma, etc... Didn't test it much more after that, maybe it's good at anime, idk.
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>>110080147
It's ComfyUI-VideoHelperSuite, even the nightly is broken
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>>110080173
>Chroma
Write better bait
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>>110080173
based, let's go back to waitfagging for the next quadrillion b model
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>>110079328
>stayed up all night after ban evading all day just to troll bake
>became pointless within the first post
Really funny seeing him suffer, bet he's going to have a melty once he wakes up especially now that it's clear even the mods are tired of his shit and he didn't move the needle.
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>>110080007
now everything I type is a bit extreme
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>>110080352
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>>110079744
sorry I'm new to this, but isn't krea 2 a bigger model? how can moss be better?
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>>110080379
there's many reasons why a small model can be better, more modern architecture, better vae, better dataset
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>>110080352
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flux3 would be so good if they trained of nsfw or even nudity instead of their insane safetyfag stance
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>>110080379
qwen image was 20b, and we need different model for normal t2i, a specialized edit model, and another specialized model plus a custom vae for rgba image
qwen image 2(.1) is only 7b and can do all the above

this is not to said moss is better than krea2 since i havent tested it yet, but smaller model can be better than bigger one
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>>110080379
Difference in how it trains, training data, and capabilities
It being coomer friendly is already mogging krea2
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>>110080364
>>110080392
>spams the same things
>losing sleep
Continue to suffer
Also eating more bans as usual
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>>110080410
just wait for the lora
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why can't catjak stop shitting up ldg?
what causes this behavior? is it just because xhe's a nigger and can't stop xherself from doing this? low iq, low impulse control, all this shit
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>>110080430
I always feel like bfl traps their training so it's made on purpose to completely destroy nsfw concepts
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>>110080384
>>110080424
>>110080422
it makes sense, thanks anons
hopefully this is good
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>>110080440
how is that possible? you should be able to reverse it by flipping those safety cuck weights around
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>>110080438
>seething even though anons organically hate you
Keep losing sleep schizo
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>>110080379
MOSS uses Qwen3.5-9B vs Krea’s Qwen3-VL-4B-Instruct as text encoder, so maybe it would even be better at concept understanding, who knows.
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>>110080422
>and we need different model for normal t2i, a specialized edit model, and another specialized model plus a custom vae for rgba image
this, we need modular easiyl trainable models for different purposes, not cramming trillions of parameters into some huge blob so some dude can show off how he can run a quant on his 5090
>inb4 during and after muh vramlets
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>>110080455
it's always possible, sure, but it's harder to do because they make it annoying/costly on purpose
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Moss is the least censored "official" model I've ever seen. No issues with full porn. It even knows how used condoms look. Best anime knowledge among non-anime models (better than Kroma). But it so undertrained. There are few gems among melting and body horror.
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>retard schizo always melts down at the same timeframe
I'm sure we will have very organic posting
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>>110080459
i think we need better training technology. they already made good memory management systems that let us run these big models on smaller cards. surely it should be possible to do the same thing with back prop
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where's my NSFW edit model, I need to edit gigantic jungle bushes on all shaved pussies
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>>110080512
what happens when they both fart simultaneousy
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>>110080496
>But it so undertrained
so it was the catch
there is always a fucking catch, damn it
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>>110080518
i really hope we don't ever get any... what a shit taste
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It knows the diaper leotard. ELon can fuck off with kickflip car, future is here
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>>110080529
lowest test ITT
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>>110080518
I'd do the opposite as I hate hairy but I don't think it's possible yet one way or the other sadly
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>>110080546
holy vased, all the other models I tried so far had problems with swastikas
Does it know good ol uncle Adolf?
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>>110080553
Sadly not, but it kind of works when you add "mustache" to the prompt. Then you get 80-90% accuracy
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>>110080575
which namefag is t his
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>>110079638
what vae does it use
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>>110080288
you look into the error and it tells you what is missing
you look into related gomfy file you find earlier version of whatever they removed or bloat added
you temp remove it

or better, shrimply add it to custom node's call it is usually in function definition (this sometimes works sometimes does not)
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>>110080586
flux 2 and it is better than previous kleinn
ledditors are tarded
ostris has lora training code and hopefully others add it too
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>>110080206
>Neat, is the node offical/included by default? whats the name?
Yeah, it's official. The name's Model Attention Backend. It lets you pick between Pytorch attention and Comfy Kitchen attention.
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Somebody has to train it further. It'll be the best anime model.
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>>110080630
it got his face and hair correct but not the mustache
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>>110080632
what's missing currently?
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>its called moss because local is stagnant
KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK
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>>110080666
The jacket is also on the wrong way
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it can do shitty NSFW https://files.catbox.moe/w8imaw.png
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>>110080676
It's undertrained. Lots of things melt when you prompt for many things at once. But because it wasn't RL-ed to shit, seed variety is quite good.
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>>110080695
>used filled condom
holy shit
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cozy
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did anyone test what kind of difference the base vs sft version has?
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>>110080695
ah I see, almost like concepts aren't fully understood
I wonder if there are chances they are continuing the training for it
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>>110080695
I wonder if using json would make the concepts stick better.
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>>110080524
that would make fartanons pp feel funny
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>>110080722
They released base and SFT. Usually, the next step of training is RL.
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Man LTX fucking sucks. Everything becomes blurry, or the angle and scenery changes into something completely different and usually messed up, almost makes me miss WAN
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>>110080700
Can do it even in realistic style.
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don't click at work moss
https://files.catbox.moe/odrmo8.png
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>>110080742
first model to nail my fetish like that without lora (sfw image + nsfw properly hinted), amazing
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>>110079328
>stayed up till 2:30 AM to bake this thread
Ani is such an owned worthless failure lmao
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>>110080689
https://files.catbox.moe/y20hls.png
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>>110080754
did you use natural language with a prompt enhancer or just wrote with booru tags?
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>>110080775
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>>110080784
thanks anon
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>>110080775
what? you mean for realism?
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>>110080806
based?
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>>110080808
lol I'm a retard.
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man... it can do even creampies
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>>110080773
Still no idea why trani did this to xerself
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>>110080737
you need the golden touch of the kinosseur to use it
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Anyone can try this on MOSS?
(can't test right now)

A vibrant, warm neon-lit street scene in Hong Kong at the afternoon, with a mix of colorful Chinese and English signs glowing brightly. The atmosphere is lively, cinematic, and rain-washed with reflections on the pavement. The colors are vivid, full of pink, blue, red, and green hues. Crowded buildings with overlapping neon signs. 1980s Hong Kong style. Signs include: "龍鳳冰室" "金華燒臘" "HAPPY HAIR" "鴻運茶餐廳" "EASY BAR" "永發魚蛋粉" "添記粥麵" "SUNSHINE MOTEL" "美都餐室" "富記糖水" "太平館" "雅芳髮型屋" "STAR KTV" "銀河娛樂城" "百樂門舞廳" "BUBBLE CAFE" "萬豪麻雀館" "CITY LIGHTS BAR" "瑞祥香燭莊" "文記文具" "GOLDEN JADE HOTEL" "LOVELY BEAUTY" "合興百貨" "興旺電器" And the background is warm yellow street and with all stores' lights on.
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Why do some people here seem to dislike the concept of a model small enough to have community reach so much, no one's gonna take away your quadrillion b blob FOTM model that'll be forgotten in a month
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>>110080902
queued
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alright so whats better for editing? gwen 2.1 or klein 3?
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>>110080902
Seed variety is huge. One example won't tell you much.
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>>110080902
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>>110080933
Looks pretty slopped but prompt adherence seems good
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>>110080933
>>110080939
Thanks anons, I'm more interested on its capacity to add all random texts properly in the image.
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>>110080909
API shill trolling.
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>>110080579
Ani after he logs off
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moss nsfw: https://litter.catbox.moe/c20iqnzqi4jcs4tr.jpg

What are lora sloppers (mystic, snofs, etc) gonna do? This model already knows everything the sloppers implement.
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great model
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waiting for official comfy thoughever... im gonna continue coping with the SAFE flux 3 klein
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https://litter.catbox.moe/k011cp.jpg
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>>110079638
>another 5b parameter image model
when do we get an actual upgrade instead of constant downgrades?
This shit is sdxl with better prompt adherence
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>>110081000
oh my safety
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>>110081033
>nooo not the model that people can actually run without quants and can train loras for it hurtsssss
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>>110081041
>caring about what normies can run
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>>110081041
also easier to finetune
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>>110081033
use flux2 dev then
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>>110081054
You can still run your FOTM blob that no one cares for, why mad
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>>110081062
>>110081041
Please stop feeding the API troll.
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>just noticed ComfyUI 0.41.0 came out
Bwuh?

>no MOSS yet though
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>>110081057
horrifying, why won't anyone think of the safety
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mild gore is pretty good too.

https://files.catbox.moe/grd52j.png
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>>110081058
flux2 dev is unusable due to the shit dataset and safetyslopping. And it's quite outdated now, but it does make good landscape images I guess
>>110081070
What has me wanting a good 40-100b parameter model for local to do with API
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>>110081057
Maybe. Hopefully. I tried it with ming-image, unless there's something fucky with ai-toolkit, it did not take well at all to big LoRA training. Even at 1e-5 LR it just lost base quality and didn't learn new concepts.
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>>110080902
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>>110081097
>ming-image
with a training adapter?
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>>110081111
Yes. Hahah yeah I tried without it at first, totally blows up.
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oh yeah, you should put negative
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>>110081124
Can you try some more gens with weapons, particularly rifles, assault rifles and swords. Models keep fucking them up to this say
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Is there any interpolated frames node that only adds a specific number of frames? Like, I want to add 1 every 4 frames, but everything I tried wants to 2x the original frames
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>>110081096
>me wanting a good 40-100b parameter model for local
I'd want GPUs able to run that shit first
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>>110081085
and with realistic image
https://files.catbox.moe/3yf8ho.png
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>>110081156
time to fap
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>>110081162
lol
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>>110081153
But they already can. How long are you going to make this retarded argument that hardware tops out at 24-32gb?
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MOSS looks too good to be true, what's the catch
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>>110081147
Used the old de-noise + frame-interpolating trick to deblur ghosting in video
It removes artifacts caused by Turbo LoRA in fast motion.
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>>110081186
doesn't know floyd or gosling
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>>110081139
i'll check if i have prompts ready
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Wait, did we actually get an unslopped (MOSS) base model that's trained on billions of images isn't reinforced and finetuned to death on aesthetics?

Did BFL open up a wormhole or something by benchmaxxing too much?
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>>110081186
This actually normal, the key is the text encoder, it always has been. Has anyone tested to see if it can do comic panels with proper placement?
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>>110081151
I think you're crossing the line with insulting his mother like this.
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>>110081207
kind of funny since yesterday the fudders were saying we would never get something like sdxl ever again
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>>110081033
>This shit is sdxl with better prompt adherence
That'd be unironically great
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50 steps is a pain... someone needs to finetune it for 12-20 steps.
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>>110081262
What's the gen times
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If nothing else, it’s a pretty great stress-relief model. The prompt adherence is crazy.

https://files.catbox.moe/tnd0ct.png
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>>110081241
Sir this is a fictional character
>>110081207
BFL is a disgrace
It is funny this model dropped I can't wait to test prompt adherence once the official wf drops
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>>110081269
60-70 seconds for 1.5 mp on 5070 at 50 steps, cfg 3.
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>>110081251
fudder here, I still believe it, there's a catch, we just haven't discovered it because the model just dropped
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>>110081000
her face gives a qwen "anime to realistic" vibe somehow, tamer and less potato face but still there
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>>110081262
the furries are distilling it
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>>110081104
Thanks, plenty mistakes still in the text.. but not bad at all.
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does moss know charlie kirk?
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>>110081280
by the time you discover it, it will be too late...
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>>110081279
>*unzips*
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>>110081207
BFL will never add boorus, even sfw ones are probably too unsafe to them, despite the insane number of properly tagged useful concepts in them.
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>>110081322
They have made two failure models back to back, we don't need them anymore. Forget the censorship the models run like shit and are slow and the only reason why it's that way is because they want to funnel people into the API.
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>>110081283
I specifically prompted for plastic asian face, which I like. Maybe if you prompt for an average face, you'll get something different.
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>>110081337
I'm ok with your result anon, but I hate the ones qwen did, so I'm glad it's not defaulting to that
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>>110081332
Even for the API their hate of anything unsafe made even openai or google image models better, simply because they added obviously nsfw in them and a whole lot of other concepts, but they simply filter the input text and after generation.
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>>110081356
Could they not see how other companies handle it? Krea 2 is a perfect example that they are just fucking stupid and like Stability refused to read the room or even approach it in a sensible manner. You can easily add safety without destroying the model, the irony is they used SD3's failure as a marketing point and still became just like them.
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>>110081363
melty and sloppy
maybe a z-image final pass would fix it?
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>>110081375
It's low resolution, also wait for the official WF. Convrot model should alleviate the speed . People said the same thing about qwen 2.1 and it wasn't as bad as people originally thought.
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>good at realism
>good at anime
>knows enough body anatomy and NSFW to be solid base for finetunes
Seriously there MUST be something wrong with the model, I am overwhelmed by a feeling of impending doom
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>>110081367
qrd on stability ai? i lost interest after sd 1.3 and now i am back
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>>110081398
well it looks pretty bad so far
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>>110081367
I think they are content in their niche, just good enough to be selling their services, but inherently limited by their stupid stance.
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>>110081186
What is so good about it?
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>>110081404
They kept dropping shit tier models while using enforcers to shill their shit and preferred frontend at the time.
People lost all respect for them when they released a lobotomized SD3 that was not what they advertised and they had the nerve to say it was a user issue when it was a objective lie. Once new models came out everyone jumped ship including comfy and now the company is dead.
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>>110081428
easy to run as is and I like the results
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>>110081413
Why are retards like you ever present in these threads. Do you understand how base models work?
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>MOSS le bad
We have gone full circle time to waitfagfor the next FOTM
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>>110081429
kek, i am reading wikipedia and black forest labs came from people that left stability ai after it went broke. didn't learn from their mistakes
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>>110081446
im waitening for offical cumfy wf :)
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Am I supposed to use Base or SFT for NSFW?
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is klein 3 that bad? like I want something to make assets for a game I'm making... I was set to use gwen, but saw klein 3 dropped. its not a pron game btw
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>>110081464
sft
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>>110081398
Can you really not see it? It's a boring model. That is the entire drawback. Everything it will produce has already been produced by previous models.
The target audience are people new to the hobby and gamers with 12-16gb gaming cards, soon 8gb cards once int8 versions drop.
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>>110081466
people said the workflow was broken so i am not sure if they fixed it, but the regular images anons were posting on here had screwed up faces so i don't think it is very good if that kind of thing persists after they fix the workflow
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Okay, we're actually back. MOSS is handling the complex prompts that the Krea 2 base model on the API was giving me.

In fact, the MOSS release was what I expected the open weights Krea 2 model to be. Wtf are we doing Krea.
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>>110081486
moss bros we fuarkin wonned
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nsfw test https://files.catbox.moe/75prcj.jpg https://files.catbox.moe/u8wj0h.jpg
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>>110081482
>Everything it will produce has already been produced by previous models
ok...what hasn't been produced?
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>>110081482
>nooo people that don't have a 5090 can use this LOCAL model
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they have this on their website. try it out and see if it works better
https://github.com/OpenMOSS/MOSS-Image/tree/main/skills/moss-image-prompt-enhancer
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>>110081454
Yes it's the actually competent people from Stability who left. Too bad their competence didn't stop them from being moralfags.
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>>110081486
good, maybe krea 3 will be fucking amazing in return
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>>110081454
They did not and still have the same pig headed approach. They just did slightly better than Stability at the time
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>>110081466
Flux is always shit
The only time it wasn't shit because the competitors shot themselves in the foot first. (Qwen& stable diffusion)

Never liked anything they made.
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>>110081578
flux vae was great though
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>>110081492
I can name you a bunch of things, but seeing the extremely slopped panel image posted that would be a great example. A model that can make entire manga panels out of the box, with both promptable font style, layout prompt and prompt adherence for said panels.
So instead of asking uncreative retarded questions ask yourself this, what can this model do that the previous models couldn't already?
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This retard is never happy he just sits here to complain and spread misery
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>>110081601
It's called being realistic.
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>>110081594
kek
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>>110081601
well yeah obviously, but that makes him easy to ignore, he'll never be happy about anything anyway, so whatever let him be grumpy
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https://huggingface.co/Comfy-Org/MOSS-Image
https://huggingface.co/Comfy-Org/MOSS-Image
https://huggingface.co/Comfy-Org/MOSS-Image
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nsfw https://files.catbox.moe/ikm8p1.jpg
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>>110081601
>>110081606
>>110081629
Who?
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>>110081635
35 stars raped nocode dev
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>>110081594
>What can this model do that the previous models couldn't already
coom + bbox support
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>>110081633
flux2 vae
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>>110081594
>>110081642
coom + bbox + anime knowledge
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Do you have to boomer proompt it or do booru tags work?
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>oh no the plebs might be able to run and train this model
What are guys like this doing in a local thread
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>>110081633
No w4a8 TE? That shit is almost twice the size of the actual checkpoint.
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>>110081672
I think everything works, booru tags, normal sentences, json and bbox (gives the best result according to their paper)
it's pretty nice it's this versatile
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>>110081679
I told you. It's the API troll.
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>>110081680
stop being poor
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>>110081680
wait for kaijeet to do it
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>>110081672
booru tags might be supported, but don't expect any complex scene with tags
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>>110081688
Nigger it's the fucking TE, quantizing it makes no difference (up to a point).
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>>110081679
>>110081685
Sounds like the same guy shitting on people not using Krea because "he has a 5090" or some shit
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>>110081601
>shit model comes out
>two retards hype it endlessly
>one of them is the thread schizo, confirmed
>it doesn't do anything special
>gets upset when I'm not impressed
Not all of us are impressed with shit
>>110081642
>>110081663
So it can do nothing new? Not a single thing?
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>>110081707
>quantizing it makes no difference
there's a world difference between bf16 and Q8 for diffusion text encoders, but you do you (retard)
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>>110081710
Probably, yeah. Would make sense.
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https://huggingface.co/lodestones/MOSS-Image-SFT-8-steps-dmd
8 steps moss
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>>110081712
Name 1 model with coom, bbox, anime, and booru support out of the box
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>>110081724
based furry
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>>110081724
I wonder if lodestone will make some finetune of moss.
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>>110081724
That fast? Fuck yes.
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Anyone run these on toasters (Intel HD 630)?
I don't mind if take 3 hours to generate single image.
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>>110081744
He'll inevitably fuck it up
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>>110081528
Holy shit. This model is fire
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wtf is a bbox
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>>110081763
The base model already has nsfw, so less chances to completely destroy anatomy.
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>>110081767
A positioning tool
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>>110081758
were these moss?
top left is nice
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>>110081634
damn. did they censor nothing?
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>>110081767
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>>110081712
>muh new things
A good local model is small enough and easily trainable so you can just do your own lora locally if you encounter something it can't do
Just keep playing with your FOTM blobs, no one is taking them away from you
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>>110081796
>gemini
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>>110081794
Censor? They straight up trained on porn.
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>>110081794
its not censored, just undertrained. genitals get very melty closer you get
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>>110080695
Are you using the base model or the SFT model?
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>>110081778
lodestones will find a way
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>>110081724
>dmd
And it's shit
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>>110081151
You just can't help yourself, huh?
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>>110081816
SFT.
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seedance shill is the guy posting mixed race porn by the way
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>>110081822
don't pay attention to this cuck
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>when I do something
hehe
>when he does something
How dare you!
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>>110081758
you can do it with only a cpu, but it will take some time to generate a picture
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>>110081695
>>110081695
>>110081695
When ready
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>>110081850
Thanks for bakering
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here comes the melty
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>>110081838
I fine with taking long time, (6th gen intel with 4 cores)!!
which one easy to install and to use?
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>>110081805
>literally making shit up now
Can you upload a few of the loras you made for moss or are we fantasy maxxing now?
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>>110081863
*braces self*
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>>110081850
thanks for the cozy bake anon
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>>110081809
it's an example anon
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>>110081863
>>110081882
We don't split bake schizo only your camp does. How does it feel to go so hard constantly only for it to mean nothing?
You're losing sleep over toys stupid squabble while we're enjoying the new model
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>>110081878
No I just stated what a good local model looks like, obviously there are no loras yet because it just dropped and we have to wait and see if it actually fits the bill
Just keep playing with your quadrillion b blob that no one cares about, no one is stopping you
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>>110081929
Did it get the AK right on the first attempt?
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>>110081920
:)
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>>110081920
>We don't split bake schizo only your camp does
so you're just straight up lying now? you literally were split baking for months until mods started banning your ghetto ass
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>>110081936
two gens with ak, and both were correct. also knows some handguns
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>>110081929
Leon's girl but older?
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>>110081695
>>110081695
>>110081695
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>>110081950
yeah, it doesnt have knowledge of Leon the Professional
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>>110081947
Who created 4 threads that needed to be deleted yesterday?
Holy shit even when you should be happy you come off as miserable it's it because you know that you need to hawk the general 24/7 only for regular anons to fix it?
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>>110081821
You need to change the sampler
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>>110081921
>we have to see if it actually fits the bill
Exactly, so why bring it up in the first place. And how many times are you going to tell me to play with fotm models while moss is literally the current fotm model that you're hyping for some really strange reason. The model hasn't shown anything impressive or interesting yet, once you realize that we can talk again, but for now just keep slopping I guess
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>>110081981
you did
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>>110081877
well i've only used comfyui

to give you an idea, i generated a picture just now using anima (30 steps) which took 48 seconds on my rx7800xt (cold start)

i'll get back to you once the cpu one is done, but my cpu is a 24-thread ryzen 9 7900x.

30-step anima base is certainly not the fastest option, you'll probably want to use something lighter. oh, one step finished on the cpu, current estimate is just under 50 minutes. i don't know if your gpu can help at all.
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>>110081877
>>110082037
oh also forgot to mention, when using only a cpu, keep in mind the model will load into ram instead of vram, so like if something says it needs 8GB of vram, when running on a cpu that means it needs 8GB of ram instead.
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>>110081151
LMAO
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>>110081633
what clip type do you use for qwen3.5_9b?
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>>110082079
https://github.com/Comfy-Org/ComfyUI/commits/master/
I dont see moss in the commit list, so idk, they might be preparing
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>>110082094
Check pull requests
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>>110082141
>supports bbox coordinates
holy kino
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>>110081877
it has completed 9 steps in about 15 minutes, which is enough if i used anima turbo instead of base.
ps. i just started comfyui with "--cpu" to tell it to just use the cpu
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>>110082188
Holy batman. You can use this for 4 steps https://huggingface.co/sorryhyun/anima-turbo-4step/tree/main
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>>110082188
based waitchad
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>>110082230
that wouldn't be too bad. it's 15 steps in with an average of 97.24s/it.
with only 4 steps that'd be about 7 minutes per picture. of course my cpu is better than anon's 6th gen intel, but still it might be tolerable. better than nothing
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>>110082263
With cfg on? With cfg=1 for turbo models, each step would be much faster
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>>110082273
i don't normally use my cpu, if you have any suggestions point them at >>110081877
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>>110080742
Anatomy is super fucked. worse than klein (the good one).
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>>110082263
lol i forgot i was running this
[INFO] Prompt executed in 00:50:54

surprisingly the picture is a bit different despite using the same seed
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>>110082702
Depends on seed. But yeah, sometimes it's fucked.



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