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Discussion and Development of Local Image, Video, and Audio Models

Previous: >>110085843


https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide

>UI
ComfyUI: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI
SwarmUI: https://github.com/mcmonkeyprojects/SwarmUI
SDWebUI: https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide#the-stable-diffusion-web-ui-lineage
AniStudio: https://github.com/FizzleDorf/AniStudio
Wan2GP: https://github.com/deepbeepmeep/Wan2GP
Neural-Pixel (sd.cpp): https://github.com/Luiz-Alcantara/Neural-Pixel

>Checkpoints, LoRAs, & Upscalers
https://huggingface.co/models
https://huggingbay.xyz
https://civitai.com
https://civitaiarchive.com
https://openmodeldb.info

>Tuning
https://github.com/spacepxl/demystifying-sd-finetuning
https://github.com/ostris/ai-toolkit
https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainer
https://github.com/tdrussell/diffusion-pipe
https://github.com/kohya-ss/sd-scripts
https://github.com/kohya-ss/musubi-tuner

>Qwen Image 2.1
https://huggingface.co/Qwen/Qwen-Image-2.1

>Minimax H3
https://huggingface.co/Comfy-Org/MiniMax-H3
https://neta.art/use-cases/en/h3-1000-prompt-list

>Anima
https://huggingface.co/circlestone-labs/Anima
https://animastyles.thetacursed.com
https://tagexplorer.github.io/
https://animadex.net

>Krea 2
https://huggingface.co/krea/Krea-2-Raw
https://huggingface.co/krea/Krea-2-Turbo
https://lumenastrum.github.io/clio-style-preview/gallery/

>Klein
https://huggingface.co/collections/black-forest-labs/flux2

>Misc
Share Metadata: https://catbox.moe | https://litterbox.catbox.moe/
Txt2Img Plugin: https://github.com/Acly/krita-ai-diffusion
Archive: https://rentry.org/sdg-link
Collage: https://rentry.org/neo_collage

>Neighbors
>>>/aco/csdg
>>>/b/degen
>>>/gif/vdg
>>>/d/ddg
>>>/e/edg
>>>/h/hdg
>>>/trash/slop
>>>/vt/vtai
>>>/u/udg

>Local Text
>>>/g/lmg

>Maintain Thread Quality
https://rentry.org/debo
https://rentry.org/animanon
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Blessed thread of frenship
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reply with only your best moss gens
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so... best nsfw gen you made with moss so far?
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>SDXL 2 is finally real
Do you forgive chang?
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>mfw Resource news

10/16/2026

>MOSS-Image: Text-to-Image Generation with Native Layout Control
https://openmoss.ai/MOSS-Image

>MOSS-image ComfyUI Repackage
https://huggingface.co/Comfy-Org/MOSS-Image

>MiniMax-H3 Sol Engine in ComfyUI
https://github.com/NVlabs/Sana/tree/sol-engine/models/minimax_h3/Sol-H3-ComfyUI

>lodestones / MOSS-Image-SFT-8-steps-dmd
https://huggingface.co/lodestones/MOSS-Image-SFT-8-steps-dmd/blob/main/lora.safetensors

>FLUX.3 Klein RefMods
https://huggingface.co/datasets/malcolmrey/various/blob/main/flux3klein/docs/FLUX3_KLEIN.md

>Sakura — FLUX.3 Image Klein text encoder, uncensored (GGUF)
https://huggingface.co/webmp3/Sakura-FLUX.3-Image-Klein-TextEncoder-Uncensored-GGUF

>SCOPE: Semantic Bounded Credit Optimization for Prompt Engineering in Text-to-image Generation
https://github.com/MAC-AutoML/SCOPE

>Which Tokens to Merge? Diffusion Dynamics for Efficient Image Generation
https://github.com/SeungJuCha/DaTMe

>Beyond Pairwise Repulsion: Collective Diversity via Determinant Maximization in Diffusion Sampling
https://github.com/mobled37/DetNO

>Seeing Both the Forest and the Trees: Reusing Holistic 3D Priors for Part-Decomposed Generation
https://zhao-yiqun.github.io/structparts

>Purify Before You Align: Improving Representation Alignment for Diffusion Models
https://yingheng-wang.com/LAP

>MYOPIA: Understanding the Limits of Tree-Based Reasoning in Vision-Language Models
https://github.com/islammesabah/VLM_Classification

>Valtz: Native macOS app for generative creation and composition, powered by Vpipe
https://github.com/tgo-app-dev/valtz

>ComfyUI v0.41.0 released
https://github.com/Comfy-Org/ComfyUI/releases/tag/v0.41.0

10/15/2026

>FLUX 3 Image: Maximum control over every pixel
https://bfl.ai/models/flux-3-image

>FLUX.3 Image Klein in Diffusers
https://huggingface.co/blog/flux-3

>FLUX 3 Image Klein for ComfyUI
https://huggingface.co/black-forest-labs/flux-3-image-klein-comfy
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>mfw Research news

10/16/2026

>Temporal Specification Guidance for T2V Generation
https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.20822

>Sparse Attention for Video Generation Acceleration via Growing Sparsity and Reduced Search
https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.21129

>UltraDiff: Transferring High-Fidelity Priors to Compressed Latent Spaces for High-Resolution Image Generation
https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.21202

>Intern Lumina U2: A Multi-Codebook Diffusion LLM for Omni-Visual Understanding and Image Generation
https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.20818

>FeaTok: Feature-Loss Tokenization for Image Generation
https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.22060

>ACEdit: Stable Multi-Turn Image Editing via Asymmetric Conditioning
https://saradorfman1.github.io/ACEdit

>RIGen: Beyond Action Following with Reciprocal Interaction in Generative Gameplay
https://murphylmf.github.io/RIGen

>Routing Policy Optimization for Online Diffusion Reinforcement Learning
https://velox-world.com/rpo

>Velox: Spatial Memory Makes World Models Efficient
https://velox-world.com/velox

>Not Just a Subject: Capturing Adaptive Scene-Specific Variance for Visual Storytelling
https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.22320

>ManiFusion: Unlocking the High-Throughput Generation via Superposition in Manifold Space
https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.21433

>Speculative Forcing for Efficient Autoregressive Video Generation
https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.22347

>EigDiff: Eigensample Diffusion - or how to significantly reduce training dataset size with performance variation?
https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.20999

>SoftCache: Adaptive Step Size Caching for DiTs
https://malnick.net/softcache

>Rethinking Classifier-Free Guidance for TI2I Flow Matching
https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.21550

>FocusOPD: Structure-Guided On-Policy Distillation for Diffusion Models
https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.21250

>SUPRA-TEX: 3D Generation with Super-Aligned Texture
https://supra-3d.github.io/supratex

>Reinforcement Learning-driven Diffusion Models: Language, Vision, and Beyond
https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.21539
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>old catjak pic as OP
>rentry links unmolested
>old klein links still included
>no links for moss
Inneressing
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>>110087978
also anistudio link
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Reminder to remove the ani studio link next thread, the schizo put it in the thread and I didn't see it in the copy paste.
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>>110087984
>and I didn't see it in the copy paste.
I am on your side but I have to chuckle at that one.
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>>110087983
>>110087984
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>>110087555
>AniStudio: https://github.com/FizzleDorf/AniStudio
so i let a proper ai analyze that repo and i think we should remove it from OP
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Total schizo holocaust
>>110088007
Keeeeeeeeek
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>>110087984
Anistudio now officially recognized by catjak and approved by an original gen, it's lore now, no taksies baksies
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>>110088007
you asked a smug redditor to comment on it?
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>>110088007
LMAO BASED
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>>110088012
:D
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How's MOSS do with artist styles? Can it revive Hatater?
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>>110088007
The sad thing is I was interested in his UI until vibe coding got to the point where I could do all that shit myself thus making anistudio deprecated.
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>autocomplete still doesn't support Nodes 2.0
Another reason I still preferred the old style. Am I supposed to use escape-slashes for parentheses with Moss?
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>>110088007
>You commit history is a joke
i remember anon saying exactly this
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>>110088007
now do one that isn't primed with your preferred response. I'd be curious to see an actual unbiased review
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>>110088007
>proper ai
What are you using? Is it like a website that grades repos or something?
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>nono tranistudio is perfect all critique is just mean
lolcow
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>>110088007
what makes it funny is that this is all true lmao
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so now that anistudio is officially /ldg/ approved, is anyone else going to switch to it?
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>>110088083
does it support MOSS?
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>>110088007
Oh jeez this will trigger a new level of seethe kek
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>>110088093
i think
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>>110087968
testing krea 2 general edit v2 with this pic
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You love to see it
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>>110088150
Forgot my image
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>>110088007
So obviously there is no malware in anistudio. Thanks.
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hey i thought the avatar troon was crashing out over people advertising that UI. so why is he advertising it in the OP now? can someone answer? thanks
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>>110088181
It is a very elaborate operation by the Flapjack sect. Your foundation must be at the realm of FourChannel Gold or above to attempt to understand, junior.
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khoya, I summon you
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>>110088144
looks like your midwest white trash
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>>110088218
bruh it's currentYear+11, clone the repo, ask your favourite chatbot to make it work with moss, qwen2.1, whatever else you want
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>best quality, newest, saber \(fate\), fate \(series\), @takeuchi takashi, 1girl, standing, planted sword, outdoors, meadow, blue sky, sunlight
>Negative prompt: worst quality, bad anatomy, watermark, jpeg artifact
>25 steps, cfg 2.5, er_sde, simple

The artist tag does something, but it looks nothing like Takeuchi. I think I'll try some others.
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Truly ldg is the thread
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I gotta give F3 Klein some points for actually really being able to do 4096x4096 straight out of the box without any fuckery. On the distilled version too. Should be good for upscale editing type stuff I imagine.
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>>110088258
my favourite chatbot is tay
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>frog poster is retarded or acts retarded
pottery
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moss is better than anima at anime, better than krea at real, knows booru tags better than illustrious, its so over
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>>110088351
Source?
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>>110088351
>better than krea at real
lmao
lol
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>>110088287
Removing "best quality, newest" also has an effect, but still looks nothing like Takeuchi.
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>>110088351
So far I've only seen grainy=real images or straight up embarrassing slop of moss. So should I blame the toolers instead of the tools since the model is better than krea and anima according to you?
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backgrounds have been nice so far
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>>110088309
Looks slopped though
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>Avoid sequential CPU offloading. The authors offer GPU-resident, component-offload, and sequential modes, explicitly describing sequential as slower. Keeping the denoiser resident during sampling is the first thing I’d investigate: unchanged model quality, but requires enough VRAM. Official performance notes
>Compile the denoiser. Their Gradio interface has a Compile DiT option, disabled by default and unavailable with sequential offloading. This is a promising optimization without deliberately reducing quality, but they publish no speedup figure. There’s a ComfyUI caveat: their plugin documentation says to use eager execution with skip-layer guidance or changing block patches because TorchCompileModel filters relevant guards. So compilation needs verification with the recommended sampling workflow. Official notes, ComfyUI caveat

Has anyone investigated this stuff yet?
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moss is great wtf. qwen and flux 3 rekt. krea still cool
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>>110088372
Tried a single-word artist name instead, with @optionaltypo. Looks nothing like their style either.
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>>110088309
benchode
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is blud really putting every thread img into ai detectors KEK
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https://files.catbox.moe/owrc71.png
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>>110088398
it's not perfect but this is JPEG 70 to fit on 4Chan, original PNG a bit better. The coherence at the higher res is the more important aspect anyways.
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>>110088448
nah nigger. That's not even what the OpenAI verify interface looks like.

Here's my Civit upload of the image, also:
https://civitai.red/images/145890492
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actual OpenAI verify looks like this (feel free to try it yourself)
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>>110088451
he's pretending to, poorly
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>>110088480
>zootanon still comes here
well, at least you arent posting those INCREDIBLY slopped bestiality gens
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>>110088500
when did I post beastiality on a blue board lmao
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imagine lying about this
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>>110088511
earlier he tried to say people were reposting gens from the chroma discord lol
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Moss is probably the first time we've gotten a free from slop, real non-finetuned base model
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>>110088509
you didnt but you would use that heavily slopped style which was so offensive it was honestly worse than the animal fucking part

but im not trying to be really mean i like the house gen you posted
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>>110088443
Tried a different character, just in case.

>violet evergarden, @optionaltypo, 1girl, sitting, typewriter, table, indoors, bookshelf
>Neg: worst quality, bad anatomy, watermark, jpeg artifact

Violet has about 1300 booru pics, and Optionaltypo about 1500. Moss knows the character, but still no luck with artist style. And I guess I have to specify mechanical hands and no smiling.
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>>110088525
he could also just stop pissing against the wind but i don't think he understands the situation at all right now
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so moss can only do squares or is anon just lazy?
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>>110087555
Newfag here
I do not understand the purpose of these links
>Maintain Thread Quality
https://rentry.org/debo
https://rentry.org/animanon
They read like a schizophrenic has written them
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>>110088571
If you're actually a newfag name me three new things rn
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>>110088571
we have a fat black meth addict here that likes to shit up the thread
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it has faults, but it's fast and does porn out of the box. i image this little model has a bright future ahead.
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>>110088586
I had to merge the fp16 text encoder going to see how it performs
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>>110088539
@tony taka looks nothing like Tony Taka.

I guess the last thing to try is increasing the tag weight.
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>>110088586
>fast
seriously? compared to what? it's not faster than krea2 or flux2 klein models on my machine, might be slower than z-image turbo for me too, which means i probably won't stick with it for much. any dmd or turbo variants of moss are likely to piss me off in one way or another. quality definitely better than k2 but i'm not sure it's worth the gen times really. I'm enjoying it for now because it has better seed variety than other more recent things without being awful.
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>>110088586
>it's fast
with what settings? turbo lora?
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For the anon in the last thread that said MOSS couldn't do crossed eyes.
I also love how the model generates normal looking people.
Defaulted to a Karen on this one kek.
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>>110088647
(@tony taka:4)

No dice. I guess I haven't tried the base model yet...
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>>110088699
thanks for testing anon, I guess I'll have yet again to use artist loras...
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>>110088647
>>110088699

>>110087138
>As impressive as MOSS is, it is still far from having the full booru knowledge of anima or noob.
>
>It doesn't know artists at all.
>Any character / concept under 1000 posts, it mostly doesn't know.
>Hell, there are genshit characters with 20000 posts where it consistently gets major parts of their outfits wrong.
>Basic NSFW is good, anything more niche is very spotty or mixed / melted poorly with related concepts.
>The moment you try to prompt more than 1 character with tags only, you'll get multiple more people in the image than you asked for including duplications.
>Multi-character interactions often end up with nonsensical compositions.
>
>I don't even think they specifically targeted dan/gel for inclusion in the training data. It's just that 3 billion unfiltered images scraped from the internet incidentally have a lot of anime knowledge. The model still needs a full booru tune to compete with existing animu models, and anyone claiming otherwise is huffing copium.
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>>110088586
You posted SFT images, which are slopped. Base is better
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built-in stock AYS scheduler kinda works on MOSS as an alternative low-step method to Lodestone lora while keeping negatives, this is 16 steps, CFG 5, Euler / AYS
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guys it's le shit okay listen to fudnon
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remember anon: your output resolution must match the exact pixel dimensions in the layout canvas or else bbox stuff gets wonky
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>>110088531
IDK exactly what you're talking about DESU, most of my gens here historically have been like super random assortments of genres and not usually anime or anything like that, I'm not particularly consistent in the type of stuff I post here lol

Like there's been some anime but not a ton at least on blue boards
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>>110088665
yeah it's in no way fast, it's in fact super slow for the size, architecturally it might be even less efficient than Z Image
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>>110088699
bf16 is about 20-25% slower than int8 convrot on my hardware.
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>>110088685
>normal looking people
it seems to respond well to first/last names giving less "AI" looking faces but no real likeness consistency to same name between seeds. i gave up on celeb names quick, didn't seen to really know most the ones i threw at it off the top of my head - emma watson was a decent one, of course... i've missed being able to use wildcard lists of names to get some more interesting faces than i usually associate with this shit.
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Moss is really good. It knows a naked child isn't a scaled down version of a naked adult; it gets the fat distribution and bone structure right. When I prompt a microskirt it actually makes it micro instead of miniskirt or god forbid just a short skirt like I've seen in Qwen Image 2.1
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>>110088699
>>110088766
And here's Base with the same prompt and seed. Quite different from SFT, but still nothing like Taka, unfortunately.
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>>110088791
>piss filter
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>>110088826
This looks kinda nice, but nothing like @optionaltypo.
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>>110087555
>not Chaindrite
NGMI
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Moss Base and Moss SFT should be used the same way as ZiB and ZiT
Diffuse the early steps with Base and later steps with SFT
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>>110088889
@takeuchi takashi on Base. Zero resemblance. I think Anima is safe for a while longer.
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>>110088812
What do you use to generate your prompts?
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>>110088958
I just use tags.
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>>110088949
Reminds me of those early y2k CD cover arts
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>>110088935
this model is slower than Z Image by a lot, it wouldn't be replacing Anima anyways
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>>110088999
that girl on the left has a weird looking arm
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>>110088999
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>The whole photo is badly stretched horizontally, as if an image was dragged to the wrong aspect ratio and squashed vertically. His head looks comically wide and flattened
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>>110087984
> I didn't see it in the copy paste
ofc you didnt
your fat brown sweaty hands must be shaking so much
> 110087555
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>>110088351
its not better than krea2, The SFT model has a lot of potential but its far from being a krea 2 killers. it needs hires fix pass to decent looking results out of it.
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moss is so good
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So is moss only good at generating stills from VHS snuff films?
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>>110089111
maybe it is, maybe it isn't.
going to wait and see, if some anon starts having a days/weeks long meltdown over how bad it is, well then you know it's certified kino.
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>>110089122
I was just generating some VHS stuff, hah. But >>110088808 >>110088874 >>110088931 >>110088949 and >>110088971 used Moss as well.
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>>110089122
it needs an official well-made Turbo lora with good RL
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>>110089135
It's definitely good with texture but not so much at being coherent. Will not outright dismiss it but seems very niche.
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>>110089153
>not so much at being coherent.
Do you have any examples in mind? >>110088747 was also Moss Base and it's pretty coherent, unless you mean something else.
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>>110088351
>booru tags better than illustrious
kek
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>>110089126
did you miss today's melty or what
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>>110089126
anima is still king of anime but moss takes out all other t2i models
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>>110089169
>Do you have any examples in mind?
The way it fucks up anatomy and creates impossible geometry more often than not.
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>>110089176
>moss takes out all other t2i models
Insane take.
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uh oh melti
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uh oh spaghettios
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>>110089135
Are you the anon that did the wrestling gens with ideogram?
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>>110089205
Nope.
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>>110089169
catbox?
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Tried to see if artist styles can blend, even if the pure styles are inaccurate. Is Taka too strong, or Optionaltypo too weak...? Tag weights don't seem to affect much, but tag order has a big effect. Overall, I don't really get a proper hybrid style though.
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I really like MOSS but the generation times are so god damn long
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>>110089260
use lodestones 8step details must die lora
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>>110089295
but the details are great with MOSS, thats why I like it
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>>110089122
It's the only model that can create realistic non-slopped humans to some capacity
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>>110089220
It's basically author default. https://files.catbox.moe/eka7sp.png

>>110089260
What card do you have?
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>>110089310
>What card do you have?
4070ti super
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Look at that crease, only Moss can do that
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>>110089094
he said real not 3d renders
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https://files.catbox.moe/hl0own.png
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moss sft is ok but clearly needs further post training for 1536 and 2048 res high quality results.
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35 stars tranussi status?
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>>110089322
this is horrifying
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>>110089305
>It's the only model that can create realistic non-slopped humans to some capacity
(Aside from Chroma)
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>>110089331
the anon youre replying to is mentally challenged and should be ignored
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>>110089431
Chroma is fine but it's slopped and has excessive bleed of non-realistic content into everything. And also sameface.
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>>110089301
definitely fun for 1girl gacha rolling without the scuff, detail possibly rivaling zit, and none of the krea2 vae noise ugliness so far but yeah, the gen speed is hard to live with. don't know if i want to try fewer than 30 steps but so far the random gens i find bad in some way i've fixed by removing some excess nonsense from the old sd1.4 era prompts i'm running in moss
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Feels good man 4mp
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>>110089464
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>>110089436
don't bully my bro obinnbu
yes he's not smart but he's a ldg contributor
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>>110089476
>obinnbu
lel
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Great text.
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>>110089493
>>110089462
>>110089410
why are these so blurry
are you genning with 20 steps at 0.5mp and then upscale with image upscale bicubic
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>>110089493
bro uve been genning the same fucking 3dcgi sloppa for years get ur head checked
at least its not ur shitty onsen pronmix sloppa
fucking tasteless retard sto spamming ur fucking shitty boring gens
kys
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I've had very high success rate fixing fucked up details in Moss images by just bringing them to the model's attention. E.G. in a seed that has bad hands, say "holding x with her hands" as opposed to just "holding x". And describing all the subjects in the image improves them.
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>>110089310
The prompt in the catbox implies that it's meant to be a flash photo but it doesn't look like that at all. Other than that it's basically perfect, haven't seen proper looking VHS effects like that out of the box since SD3 if you can believe it.
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>>110088971
Catbox for this one? If there's no bbox for this color me surprised. Extremely unslopped. I'm gonna have to check this model out
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>>110089524
>>110089476
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>>110089528
this is the con of using lengthy and super detailed and sometimes hallucinated LLM captions in training
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It's crazy that after all these years we finally get a legit, good base model.

If you didn't know, all of the teams that have released their base models weren't true base.

They went through SFT then they call it "base". Good example of a recent one is Qwen Image.
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>>110089521
nice (me on the left)
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>>110089437
>slopped
Skill issue
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>>110089603
catbox?
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>>110089603
It's definitely extremely good with style but you can't look at the images for too long or you'll start spotting way too much funkiness
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kinomoss
https://files.catbox.moe/u9s62i.png
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>>110089633
kys
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>>110089589
Both of those gens are using horrible settings
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>>110089633
Very nice.
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>>110089540
I'm sure you know how often models struggle with flash, but that was the only seed I tried. You reminded me of a test I still need to conduct.
>haven't seen proper looking VHS effects like that out of the box since SD3
Indeed. SD3 was also nice with typographical styling, Moss seems even better at it.

>>110089551
I liked that one a lot. No bbox. https://files.catbox.moe/6cdb75.png
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>>110089649
Missing the point.
Base models = sovl bias.
SFT = slop bias.
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https://huggingface.co/darask0/MOSS-Image_4-step_adapter_lora/tree/main

this is actually good even at the actual 4 steps.

catbox example:
https://files.catbox.moe/sy22ex.png
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>>110089668
>that gen
holy fucking kino
we are free from slop
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>>110089623
these are really really good anon
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>>110089606
https://files.catbox.moe/e5ltkp.png

>>110089621
Yea, normally I would just 2-pass with Krea to fix it but I think the Krea VAE is too slopped to retain all the different styles possible in Moss
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>>110089502
its more like bokeh with bloom effect going with the 3d render. This was trained at rank 64 with moss image SFT model.
>>110089524
i like the 3d cgi final fantasy and kingdom hearts 3d cgi render alot and krea2 perfected it such a solid way compared to any other model I've used before. Honestly just fuck off and stop it with the annoying trolling shit. I'm not interested in being some lolcow and avatar name fag for schizo posting.
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Kino Gen Hour
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>>110089697
>Honestly just fuck off and stop it with the annoying trolling shit. I'm not interested in being some lolcow
these "people" have infested many generals on this site lately. certainly a coordinated effort to kill it (that's working)
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>>110089673
meh
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>>110089676
Truly we are. This doesn't count because it's krea 2 but this was trained on Electric Retard which is another shitty ms paint comic and it works well, krea is very easy to train on while MOSS is more of a pain in the ass from what I've heard
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>>110089697
I don't think you're a lolcow or a schizo.
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>>110089671
I've been trying to tell anon this for eons but hes too stubborn to understand
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What do I lose making a sft lora
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It has some pretty nice pockets of knowledge. I cant seem to make it look like he's breaking OUT of the dome, though.
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>>110089676
chang remembered that all u need for kino is no synthetic data
blessed and based
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>>110089697
why do you basically avatarfag then with the same fucking gens? you also spam this thread with cloudshit and literally boast about going to plebbit, you're literal cancer
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going to try the training another moss image SFT lora for namine (kingdom hearts) with the same settings as the lunafreya lora with rank64.
here's the lunafreya lora if any of you guys are interested.
https://gofile.io/d/KbdGcTOz
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>>110089787
i don't think i've ever seen him mention cloudshit, at least when he is avatarfagging.
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Turns out the MOSS team are truly based.
Ready for the Anime model?
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>>110089836
regular moss is too good the anime version will not be free and open :( and im not even a doomfag
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>>110089836
Wont beat NovelAI V5 doe
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https://github.com/OpenMOSS/MOSS-Image/blob/main/USERGUIDE.md#post-training
Lora training guide for moss if anyone needs it
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>>110089836
remember when Z people said that
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>plebbit posting
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>>110089860
geg
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Chinese Culture status?
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>>110089854
Ai toolkit has the settings for it built in for training to make things easier
I honestly think this model with a lora is better than krea when leveraging dynamic threasholding.
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I wonder if Swift Image is ever gonna drop:
https://arxiv.org/abs/2608.20334
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>>110089860
Kek. I think the difference here though that MOSS actually delivers though.
>https://github.com/OpenMOSS
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>>110089828
he always does comparisons to cloudshit tho, for both videos and images
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increased the resolution from 1024 to 1280. Curious if image comes out sharper than before.
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>>110089880
>Yo new guy, join my gang or else
>You would be wise to join my gang
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>A candid smartphone photo [...] Slight phone-camera noise in the low light. [...]
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>>110089668
This was actually genned and not drawn?
Jfc if i were BFL or the Krea team I'd be kinda shook, especially considering this model is Apache.
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>>110088007
Next op picture plox
Kill ani
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>>110089895
>not x but y
KINO
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>>110089854
>>110089872
If I've already got a dataset with booru tag captions, do I really have to recaption it with natural language?
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I love LDG
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>>110089909
You have to follow the template, it does it via json file of long medium and short prompts
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Kreafag in shambles
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>>110089924
kek
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>>110089943
lol
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can it do black mario poppin a goomba with his glock while hittin a fat doobie
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Moss does not know Jennifer Love Hewitt.

>>110089836
Aww yisss. It runs slow though, so the bar for worthwhile marginal utility will be higher. Still will be nice to get a capable new option.
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woaw the anon posted a gen of a heckin asian waifu in a peculiar place again
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>>110089966
It sorta knows Lucy, but she gets blue eyes (and loses a finger, at least at 25 steps).
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>>110089966
it doesn't know celebs at all. Even Boogu knew more
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>>110089966
>>110089999
checkd
on the plus side at least it can do normal looking people
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>schizo just baked at 255
lole
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>>110090010
this is the new normal
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>>110089962
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I'll wait til close to bump to bake a normal thread.
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>>110089990
where are your asian waifus ?
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>>110090010
>>110089069
but 263 is different story
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>>110090045
The fact he's ban evading and losing sleep over this is wild.
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>>110090045
your fat brown sweaty hands must be shaking so much
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>>110090034
i don't have yellow fever
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The gore is now so virtually slop-free that I can not post some of it here kek
https://files.catbox.moe/ulm0co.png
https://files.catbox.moe/j1j3kb.png
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>>110090054
but it's not me pressing f5 every second on the main page and seething here after the unpleasant discovery
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>>110090073
you might as well start spamming threads now to get a head start, since you're gunna do it after anon bakes a new proper thread anyway
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>>110090067
Impressive anon
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>>110089999
It gives someone with vaguely similar hair. I wonder if it's all intentional along with Lucy and artist styles being off.
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>he stayed up all day just to shit his pants
Grim he's going to get perhaps 4 hours of sleep and will get back to his activities
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>>110090099
why
first bake wins according to the schizo
even if it was baked at 251
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>that hair
How much Mogudan is in the dataset...?
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>>110090140
Why are you ban evading?
Do you think this helps your case?
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>>110090140
anon you're literally talking to a welfare nigger
just stop. you'll never convince this subhuman tranny of anything
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>>110090173
Z-Image devs said the same thing. Wonder how that went.
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Fucking based. Moss devs said they are gonna make a danbooru tune for nsfw use.
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>>110089864
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>>110090179
they always the say the same thing and never deliver
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I did not prompt that clock
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>>110090120
what do you get for this F3K prompt enhancer prompt:

"Full-color outdoor photograph of Avril Lavigne standing in an urban alleyway under soft, overcast daylight, captured in an eye-level medium three-quarter shot. Positioned slightly left of center in the foreground, Avril Lavigne, a young adult Caucasian woman with fair skin and a slender build, faces the camera directly while leaning her right shoulder against a weathered red brick wall. She has long, straight platinum-blonde hair parted down the middle, falling past her shoulders with a bright magenta streak framing the left side of her face and an ink-black streak on the right. Her green eyes are rimmed with thick black eyeliner and smudged charcoal eyeshadow, and she maintains a neutral, closed-mouth expression. She wears a fitted white ribbed cotton tank top paired with a loosely knotted, diagonally striped black-and-red necktie hanging down the center of her chest. A black leather belt lined with two rows of silver metal grommets rests loosely on her hips over baggy dark charcoal-grey cargo pants, with a heavy silver curb chain looping from the front right belt loop into the side pocket. On her left wrist, she wears two black leather wristbands set with silver pyramid studs, and her fingernails are painted with slightly chipped glossy black polish as she hooks both thumbs into her front pockets. On the left, the rough red brick wall features uneven, recessed grey mortar joints and small white paint flecks. Behind her to the right, a dented galvanized steel downspout runs vertically down the brickwork next to a rectangular, rust-streaked grey metal utility box. In the background on the right, the alley recedes into dark grey wet asphalt and the out-of-focus silhouette of a chain-link fence. At the bottom of the frame, the damp pavement holds a shallow puddle reflecting the pale grey light."
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>>110090191
Wtf is going on with my drag and drop
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Hot damn it really is unslopped
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>>110090178
Z guys never explicitly said it did they?, I only remember the Noob dude saying someone from Z team asked for their dataset
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>>110090210
oh yeah you might be right nvm
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>>110090174
i had 0 bans

>>110090175
it's not for him
just yet another evidence for ldg
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>>110090208
Kek
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>>110090208
true sd1.5 energy
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>>110090198
I am using the 8-step lora at 16 steps (4 steps base, no lora, remaining 12 SFT with lora at 0.7)
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since the guy who baked the early as hell thread is really upset rn i think its safe to say we can ignore his bake
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>>110090198
Dios mio...

Here's Moss-SFT at 1024.
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>>110090208
>>110090226
kinosovl
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how safetymaxxed is the F3K prompt upsampler
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>>110090172
>2.5d body
>3d world
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>>110090258
I've just been giving the literal JSON they use for it to Gemini 4 Argon as its system prompt, and then saying like "mode: t2i. input: [my input]"
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>>110090178
Chinese Culture.
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>>110090246
looks like Jennifer Aniston a bit lol
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>>110090246
And Krea 2 Turbo.
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Do you think they purposefully left celebs out or did they not care
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new bread

>>110089988
>>110089988
>>110089988
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>>110090246
>>110090198
>>110090283
he was a sk8rboi she said "see you later boy"
he wasn't good enough for heerrr
she had a pretty face
idk the lyrics to be honest
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>>110090283
Sk8ter girl!
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>>110090232
>true sd1.5 energy
it has the same seed variety too
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>>110090289
thanks for bakering
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I unironically think Boogu is the closest
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Fresh

>>110090311
>>110090311
>>110090311
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>>110090314
sorry but this thread came second
>>110089988
>>110089988
>>110089988
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>>110090287
I feel like the resemblance would be closer if they didn't care.

>>110090314
Good work adding a MOSS link too.
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>>110090323
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>>110090333
>>110090333
>>110090333
fresh
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>>110090332
show that to >>110085843
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>>110090099
>you might as well start spamming threads now to get a head start, since you're gunna do it after anon bakes a new proper thread anyway
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>>110090336
>vandalized rentry links
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>>110090337
will you stop crying if i do?
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>>110090226
Poast sum in new desu >>110090311
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>>110090226
new Tool album leaked
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>>110088808
>>110088874
>>110088931
>>110088949
>>110089623
>>110089714
>>110090208
THESE ARE SO GOOD!!



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