I still write most of the code by hand

>>110121940
What are you doing? Im sure some places is just anti fun but sometimes you gotta be the fun

>>110121950
I think I just give off a general vibe that says "avoid this person, he's a loser"

>>110121955
work out, diet, shower every day and buy new clothes. lookism is very real
t. ex fatass

>>110121831
Honestly, I'm pretty decent at writing code and making clients happy. I'm better at programming than my manager, he's mostly sysadmin with a bit of coding (we are a small company)

Asked for a raise and he would accept it but the big boss is a bitch and said no sorry economy is bad. The place is really chill, no need to LLM max and we go golfing every week.

Should I change jobs? Help me anons

>>110121966
I do all of that. At 39, I'm near the fittest I've ever been in my life. I was a bit fitter two summers ago because I was running a lot more, before I started getting knee pain.

>>110121966
>>110121955
This.

>>110121966
>buy new clothes
in this economy?

>>110122034
too old unc

>>110122156
Yeah, I know. I made some bad career choices in that area. When I was just out of college, I was 22 and my next youngest coworker was like 45. Then when I got to my mid-30s, I started working with zoomers. Everyone has always hated me.

>>110121831
millennials are so retarded
these OPs are terrible when they're not tech girly tiktoks

>>110122211
these threads aren't being made by millenials.

>>110122258
millennials are like 40

>>110122287
>>110122258
>>110122211
Oh my god who cares
mentally ill freaks

>>110122287
yeah, and these threads aren't being made by 40 years olds. they are being made by some lazy, dumb zoomer janny, or by some bot

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After 25yr you are not going to have friends. College is long over, you likely did your Masters online and your friends are long removed from the city you were in a decade ago.

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Anyone take a year or longer sabbatical before? I can afford it, have $1.5MM saved up, but I'm worried that it'll be hard to get another job that isn't complete shit in this market. Currently getting paid $300K remote to coast in a toxic job with retard coworkers but I expect to get laid off sometime next year because of bad company performance

>offloading your critical thinking to be a more efficient working slave
Peak goy behaviour

>>110122382
I had some adult friends after college. As in: met them in my mid-20s, completely independent of anyone I ever knew beforehand. The problem was I met them at a bar and the entire nature of our friend group was presence at that bar.

>>110122258
They absolutely are.

>>110122428
Not enough money anon you need at least 5million for what you are describing and another 20 million on top of that to retire without working.

>>110122382
Unironically true to a large degree.
People meme about life being over at 30. It's over WAY before then.
QOL is a death spiral from 21 to death. The only way to avoid the decline is to be a loser in college/new grad, but that just means you never got to experience the peak.

>>110122382
Are ya'll okay? God damn, the yout's are worrying me, and I have enough bullshit to worry about in my own life in this economy.

>>110122382
>>110122553
Lol doomers. Fully wrong. My life has just gotten better over time. If you let time pass you by, if you let friends drift away, if you arent trying to make your life better it will get worse.

>>110122582
>My life has just gotten better over time
Yeah, you're bragging about relativism.
If you experienced my life in college you'd immediately want to kill yourself seeing how vast the disparity is.

>>110122592
nta but I bet you are one of those who partied hard in uni and entered tech because of the money and nothing else. or maybe didn't even do CS, because you clearly have no clue how depressing CS or engineering schools are.
or are a shill/demoralizarion bot.

>>110122627
I got a double major in CS + Math. I'm a lot smarter than you are.
My life is pretty good, you'd probably kill for my life. But it's still not half as fun/fulfilling as it was when I was younger

>>110122657
you clearly don't like CS, don't enjoy doing stuff and wasted your time in uni.
or are a nepo baby.
or are a bot, which seems more likely.

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>>110121831

>>110122744
Sure bud.

>>110122592
You dont sound like a good individual to interact with.

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>first assignment after getting hired
>upgrade a project
>"oh that's not too bad"
>it's using jquery that's 18 years old

these cafeteria soups are SO good but man FUCK these stupid wooden compost spoons

>>110122853
Use case for caring about a random person's opinion?

>>110122929
You tell me, why are you bragging to this guy online?

>>110122888
Just use the metal ones dummy

is it true that stress makes you look older?

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>>110123221
Look at this man after one (1) PI planning with jeets

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>>110123221

I can't stand how little money I make, my job sucks and I can't find anything better because I don't have 69 years of experience, my stack at work is outdated and my personal projects don't count as having experience with the billionth new bullshit data tool. I make more money tutoring highschoolers and cleaning construction sites on weekends than I do at my day job. Even if I got one of those "better" more interesting jobs with 500+ applications in 1 hour the money is still shit, it's impossible to build any wealth saving even 1000e a month. Europe fucking sucks.

>>110123325
It's gonna get worse too

>>110123143
they didnt have any today :(

>>110123325
Why not focus on your more lucrative side gigs instead of tech until something changes?

>>110123466
Because I have wanted to work in tech since I was 9 years old, and the idealized form of the job itself that I have in my head is at least is very interesting and challenging. I'm afraid if I leave now I'll never be let back in, I can't even find another job to move to now let alone if I had a 1-2 year career gap. But I'm on the verge of quitting anyway and just doing computer stuff as a hobby.

>Java program that fetches a database column containing the name of a java class and then instantiates that class using inflection
now I've seen fucking everything

>>110121831
hmm, I am thinking that is literally me

one good thing about growing up in the middle of nowhere is that you know where to get a house for 30k

>>110121890
I trade my token quota for alcohol.

>3 month delivery for the iphone duo
its so over

>>110123343
What crappy company doesn’t have metal spoons in their cafeterias?

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>>110121831
covid split humanity in two, just like there we humans in eden and outside of it, cain even was afraid of the ousiders because they were abominations
dealing with mental midgets on a regular basis is hell

>>110123910
>crappy company
if only he knew

>>110123325
You should try blaming it on the immigrants. That will def land you a job.

>Helpdesk for a few months
>Surprising amount of tickets are people arguing with the solution, rather than doing it and going on their way
Is this just my company or more widespread?

I do literally nothing all day
There is no work for me to do
I haven't heard from the guy who is supposed to be my boss in a month, we have a biweekly stand-up but last time he didn't even show with no explanation
I'm still getting paychecks

in my class
almost all of the females have a job lined up

None of the males do.

>>110121989
NO

>>110124590
really says a lot about our society

>>110124590
it's ok trump ended DEI

>>110124590
>Keep screaming that woman earn 70% pay for the same job
>Finance finally took notice

>>110123137
Only way to deal with blue pilled losers. Their main avenue of attack is claiming that your life is miserable and that's the only reason you don't agree with their shit takes.
You can see ITT how they will attack you and claim that you aren't credentialed, how you're a bot, etc.

I've been studying CS for a bit (sorry if off-topic) and there's some Indians in my class and it's just horrible to work and deal with them.
When doing group projects it's fucking impossible to get anything done, they just talk in circles and nothing about the stuff that matters. That is if you even understand what they say.
Then when we are suppose to do stuff without AI they are all blatantly using AI and not even trying to hide it.
Fuck and I live in a country where there's not even many Indians, I've never seen any Indians IRL.

Just how horrible is it to have Indian colleagues in real work?

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>>110124590
At my MSCS graduation the exact same thing was true lmao.
All the guys were talking about going on month long trips to Latin America or Spain after graduation.

>>110124756
They're fucking awful. At [big tech company] two of them conspired against me in an attempt to get me PIPed. Luckily my manager let me know and I was shielded since I had just gotten a very positive performance review but needless to say I got a new job < 3 months after that.
... So I guess the jeets kinda won.

>>110121831
Finally a based twg OP.
>>110121955
Smile, invite people to lunch, have hobbies and share them, ask about other people's hobbies.

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>>110122592
>>110122657
>mmhmm yeah im better than you. my life rocks, you couldn't even imagine. you're not that guy bud.

reviewing my notes on the Phenomenology of Spirit during this useless standup

>>110124818
That's how life is. Not every anon is a 90 IQ shut-in.

>>110121890
I did too a few weeks ago but now my boss offloaded more of his slop projects for me to review. I'm so tired of this AI shit I might blow some of my vacation time to fuck off and hope the PR campaign subsides in the meantime so I can return to reality upon my return.

>>110122592
>>110122657
I had a lot of sex in college and still graduated with a CS and math degree, I didn't have to get a loan because my parents are wealthy and I got good grades. I have enough money to do whatever I want now and I've told multiple women I don't want to get married. Fuck both of you retards.

>>110124897
Literally me but I went to UNC on a full ride because my parents are rich boomers who believe in bootstrapping and wouldn't pay for Yale, Vanderbilt, etc.

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>I had a lot of sex in college and still graduated with a CS and math degree, I didn't have to get a loan because my parents are wealthy and I got good grades. I have enough money to do whatever I want now and I've told multiple women I don't want to get married. Fuck both of you retards.

>>110122258
I'm a millenial and I made the last two threads.

>>110124930
Hah I do actually look like that.

>>110124818
He's right, the only people whose 30s are better than their 20s are the people who had shitty 20s. The potential for greatness is much higher

>>110124952
Why are you referring to yourself in the third person?

>>110124952
Fwiw, I had a shitty 20s and an even shittier 30s. Next year, I will start my shitty 40s. Well, we'll see actually.

>>110124756
you are wasting your time studying cs. just like you wasted your time posting in the twg thread instead of utwg.

>>110124930
>my parents are wealthy
>I have enough money to do whatever I want
oh wow what a surprise

It's almost like you can just fuck around in life and still have money as long as your parents are rich.

Anyway, you're not successful unless you have more money than your parents. You're more of a generational disappointment and sliding down the social ladder rather than up. That's the opposite of success. That's a failure.

Otherwise, everybody could just comare themselves to hobos, and say they're successful because they're not homeless. Success is relative to where you started out from. Sliding back isn't success.

>>110125212
If your parents weren’t rich despite growing up in the everything bull run where a 1200 SAT got accepted to Harvard they probably weren’t very smart and that’s very heritable. My condolences.

>>110125270
I have more money than both my parents put together. I consider myself successful

Success is personal, and relative to where to started out from. Take like Barron Trump. And imagine Barron gets a job, and makes like slightly above the median salary. Is Barron Trump successful? I'd say he definitely isn't. I'd argue he fell down the wealth ladder off a cliff. That's a hypothetical, though. Barron will get carried by his dad's money his entire life, and will never have to work a median salary job.

>>110123957
Nigga what

two recruiters have sent me messages on linkedin these past few days
are we, dare I say, back?

>>110125311
>Success is personal, and relative to where to started out from
All I'm reading is cope

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my job is so awesome
still can't believe this is my life now :3

Employment tips : Brag about your crimes online so people are INTIMIDATED by you. If someone tells you "No" ever just threaten to murder them.

we back!

>>110125764
many are saying this

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what do I do if I dont have the will to keep working? Im unemployed currently, and my body is literally rebelling against me. Its not about problems of finding a job (tho its a part of the dynamic). Its more about me working or about 12 years, and just not feeling it anymore. Help me out guys its a real cry for help and ideas

>>110125764
congrats faggot. but you should think about starting a blog or something. because, you know, this isn't your personal blog.

>>110126550
85% of this general is anonymous blogposting.
see
>>110126243
>>110125640
>>110125311
>>110124992
>>110124918
(etc.)
why are you upset when someone blogposts slightly less anonymously than the others?

>>110126686
there is a huge difference between talking about job (asking questions, making statements about things you like/hate, comparing your attitudes or experiences, ...) and being a narcissistic attention whoring blog poster. if you don't see it, then maybe you should stop being a faggot.
also, you do know avatarposting is a bannable offense, right?

I have to go into the fucking office tomorrow.

>>110126959
whats so bad about the office

>>110126686
its not anonymous if the faggot doing it is using an avatar

>>110126243

you and me anon (same YoE as well). Me personally I'm sticking my head in the sand and doing a lot of agentic coding but very soon I'll have to walk through the desert again.

>>110126243
>>110127063
there are lots of alternatives. you could marry some rich woman that is willing to be your sugar momma, scam/extort people, produce or hunt your own food, ... be creative, I guess. or maybe ask >>>/biz/

So far this week has been awful, and not in a spooky Halloween way. Like full failure mode awful.
On top of that, yesterday mid-day I started crying over no 4chan. I tried to post on various communities I kept bookmarked or googled and they were scary.

Maybe sharing my deranged thoughts on the internet is not the best usage of my time, but it's the most social I ever get.

>>110127350
>Women that are better looking and higher job rank than me
Intimidating & French-brained.

>have first round interview
>it's surprise technical interview
>the entire panel is foreigners
>grilling me super hard
>won't let up on the technical questions, clearly trying to see where i flounder
>feel like an idiot on every question
>assume i'm not getting the job
>never get a response
>message the HR guy 3 weeks later just because i want the rejection because i want my self-hatred to be confirmed
>oh my gosh i am so sorry, the team said you did great but i completely dropped the ball, i was supposed to schedule you for a second round and i overlooked it, i can see if they are still interested
I've never had an HR rat just openly admit to fucking up this badly, don't know how to feel. Somehow this is even worse than if I had just failed. I almost feel like I'm in one of those elaborate shit tests you see on linkedin

>>110127735
>. I almost feel like I'm in one of those elaborate shit tests you see on linkedin
...but once I see posts like that, I actually think there's some possibilty to skinwalk being normie.

anyone working in security here?
it has been such a fun day (for people in offensive security at least)

>>110127909
Yes and nobody cared about the pho thing. Nobody caries about TLS either.

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>>110127948
Fuck off, I love pho.

>>110127735
Why would you want to work at a place where all your coworkers are foreigners?

>>110128086
fully remote

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Another morning, another day of commanding claude. Fuck me.

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>>110128751
>@HANDOFF.md finish whatever the fuck we were doing last night

https://x.com/avstorm/status/2112930113654280449

Left my job a month ago and most of the way done raising a preseed round already. Market is white hot but I can tell it would be really hard if you didn't have a serious resume. I definitely cannot imagine staying at a big co writing code no matter what the pay is, but being a slop cannoneer is a lot more fun making your own product at least so far. If I wasn't doing this, I'd try to just do solo game dev, I also find that quite nice with LLMs since you can always do big context switches from writing the game logic to sound, art, animation, keeps it interesting.

how many different companies did you guys have to interview in order to get your last job?

apart from the one i'm pretty sure i aced, i think i'm coming up to 15 or so, i'd say it was a 50/50 split of rejections between HR and technical stages

>>110127909
>offensive security
you keep away undesirables by hurling slurs at them?

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>>110129612
4 interviews for current job and had another 3 job interviews recently. I don't think any of them went anywhere. I might be better off doing an internal job move within the company.

i applied recently to 30 companies so getting 1:10 ratio of interviews sounds good for me. Last time i had applied to 15 companies to get that many interviews.

>>110129612
I'm starting a new job next week
Got referred by an ex-coworker a couple of months ago to the company he switched to
Typical HR screening, interview with team, interview with director & exec and a week later I got an offer.

>>110129612
24 applications 2 interviews 1 offer

>>110123221
No but it gave my stomach ulcers which take months to heal.

if your job made you go through less than 5 rounds of interviews, it's probably shit desu

>>110129612
~15 (not US)

>>110130211
I asked for precut mellons and the lady substituted it for whole mellongs.

I'm not married. I don't know what to do with a melon. Now it's just sitting in my refrigerator. I'm thinking about bringing it to work and giving it to a woman there.

>>110129612
>how many different companies did you guys have to interview in order to get your last job?
It's usually 2-3 whenever I switch jobs but getting an interview is an absolute bitch. Last time I think I gave up and only submitted about 10 applications over the course of six months.

>>110130389
My current job had one "interview" and it was basically them convincing me to work there. It's the best place I've ever worked.

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>4chan down, emotional breakdown
>Try communities and socializing elsewhere
>Total gaslighting by "friendly" communities that supposedly share mental illnesses with me
>Jumped by terfs, pooners, animal abusers, people with self imposed diets, self diagnosed at age of 50 with furrets, diversity hires that earn more than me while doing nothing
>Accepted by helldivers (irl) right wing hate powered fanbase

How do normalfiends even function? I'm confused.

>>110130802
I was too busy working to really be affected by it. Maybe that's why I'm not a furry.

>>110130802
kys tranny

>>110130821
Funny animals make me relatively happy. I don't like furries and people who are furries for weird reason of needing to be part of a subculture (aka culture appropriating zoomers).

>>110130873
Ok mad terf pooner. Go be agp about a black t-shirt somewhere else.

>>110126686
>see
the first post you linked as an example is a question/asking for help.
shan't read any further, opinion discarded

>thursday
HOLD THE LINE

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>>110127350
>you could marry some rich woman that is willing to be your sugar momma, scam/extort people, produce or hunt your own food, ... be creative, I guess. or maybe ask >>>/biz/
nobody wants me, scamming is harder than work, I lost my money on /biz/

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>>110129612
They came after me, we did one basic screening then live code interview, few days later I got my work equipment. It doesn't pay well but it's WFH in 2026 so I won't complain, I work only 2 to 4 hours a day.

>PHP vulerability resolved in less than 2 days
Wow good job 4chins tech team!
I expected this place to be down for at least a week

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>i got the job, call tomorrow to go over the contract
it's not glamorous, but it's above market rate for a nearly full remote position for something i like doing

What am I meant to do now as an AuDHDer?
I'm an unfocused social retard but I'm good at pattern recognition and systems thinking... which is what LLMs are good at

I do work as a tester, but this current company is aids, and it took me over a year to get this after failing to get another software engineering role after getting laid off from a previous SWE role.
It's annoying that every corporate job is a soulless death by jira scrum grind, and every start up is some AI wrapper that'll never turn a profit