Brand new Asano Tanch limited editionHow to request advice:>Budget>Intended use (media, source, environment)>Frequency response preference and music examples>Past gear and your thoughts on themFAQ:>Where do I buy IEMs?Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio>Shopping Guide (IEMs, PMPs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):https://consoomer-guide.pages.dev/>/iemg/'s Journal:https://iemgazette.pages.dev/>EQ Guide (EQ 101, Targets, Myths & Misconceptions, Papers, etc.):https://iem-eq-guide.pages.dev/>Measurements:https://iem-eq-guide.pages.dev/measurement-databases/>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:• Tanchjim Bunny DSP (Mild U/5-Band PEQ) - $22• Tangzu Wan'er S.G 2 (mild V) - $20• EPZ Q1 Pro (V-shape) - $35>Bullet IEMs:• Tanchjim Zero Ultima DSP (Mild U/5-Band PEQ) - $22• Sony IER-EX15C (Warm/Dark) - $30• Etymotic ER2XR (Towards Neutral) - $140>Flathead Earbuds:• NICEHCK Vido (Warm) - $5• Yincrow X6 (Warm) - $10>USB-C DACs:• JCally JM6 (Non Pro) / CX Pro - $8• JadeAudio JIEZI (10-Band PEQ) - $18• TRN Black Pearl (10-Band PEQ) - $38• Qudelix 5K (20-Band PEQ/GEQ) - $110>PMPs:• HiBy R1 - $85• HiBy M300 - $200• TempoTec V1 - $110>AVOID USING:• Mainboard audio when using multi-driver posPrevious Thread: >>110123153
Official /iemg/ Tier ListMid Tier$5 shitbuds$10 shitbuds$20 shitbudsHigh Tier$3 shitbuds$4 shitbudsTop Tier$1 shitbuds$2 shitbudsGod Tier$0 shitbuds$0.49 shitbuds
>>110149436presumably totl iems would all be unspeakable abomination tier? degenerate filth
>>110149557Yes
>>110139855One more try
>>110149436It's true. And also the reason this general will never be taken seriously.
>>110149764people will take us seriously in two weeks
>>110149764Maybe if we're serious, the seriousness will spread.
>>110149825>>110149841By true I meant this general unironically believes in what's in this post >>110149436.
>>110149390They're coming today and I'm excited.
>>110149854Nobody with a real job believes this btw
Get serious.
>>110149930Looks like a bunch of pretty stones you'd find at the bottom of a river
>>110149855How's $270 compare to $30?
>>110149975>all that shitlmao
>>110149865If you don't look like >>110149574 you don't have a real job.
>>110150070Why does he have a nuclear reactor core in his IEMs?
>scientists claim to have found harman tuning>can't even find the g spotWhy do we trust them and sociologists on normnigger society? They probably still lick their gf's cunt.
>>110149975I got the "ANC" ones, doesn't cancel shit, charger also kinda sucks, rattles, charging connection isn't stable, though overall still fine for the price at least
>>110149975A pale imitation of Fox TWS.
>Berlin, Germany (October 22, 2026) – ADAM Audio today introduced the H715 Reference, its new flagship open-back headphone designed to deliver a monitoring experience comparable to high-end full-range loudspeaker systems.$699 open backs. Intrigued. Want to try these out
>>110149930I'm kinda pissed that I have to drop $1500 for a pos some (((reviewer))) gets for free, with extra customization.
>>110149436What about >$20 shitbuds?
>>110150165In this day and age you have to ask who paid those soientists to spew that retarded shit
>>110150317The jews?
>>110150312Employed Tier
>>110150290>$1500 for a posWhy not autoeq EDC Pro to it?
>>110150437Because I'm neither poor nor deluded and coping.
>>110150437Not enough THD.
>>110150446You forgot retarded so you're retarded. Checks out wasting $1500 on pos.
>>110150446Bragging about owning luxury Chinese electronics isn't what richfags do.
keep being poor and seething
The trvke is you need both iems and headpos. When ear canals get irritated, switch to headpos. When you get hot spots on your head, switch to iems.
>>110150694>ear canals get irritatedlolmao ngmi bucko
>>110149390What's are some /pmpg/-approved compact desktop CD players?Even better if it fits within 14x19cm.
hope tian peng gets heavily discounted + coins + code on 11.11 (it wont)
The trvke is chinese shitbuds and headpos satisfies autism without completely destroying you like with what happened to the boomers, thus ending the generational curse.
The trvke is you are not getting exotic woods for your speakers compared to your parents generation
The trvke is plastic from China is way more exotic
>>110150694If you can't wear your IEMs all day get better IEMs.
>>110149930Fact: $5 shitbuds has proven that anyone who's really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like.
/iemg/ Dogma Check Tired of the hivemind? Here’s your prescribed sanity dose:>Crinacle is not your priest.Rankings are a guide, not divine scripture. Your ears > his spreadsheet.>Harman and JM-1 ≠ perfect.It’s a preference curve, not a law of physics. Some genres need deviation.>Chi-Fi isn’t magic.Great value, yes. Immune to QC issues and hype cycles? Nope.>Graphs are not sound.They don’t show staging, dynamics, or fit. Use your ears, not just squigs.>BA ≠ metallic, DD ≠ perfect.Implementation matters more than driver type. Always has.>Meme sets aren’t the whole hobby.If it’s not shilled 24/7, it might still be good. It's highly encouraged to form an original opinion.>Disagreeing ≠ cope or deaf.Let people like what they like without foaming at the mouth.>Loud posts =/= smart takes.Confidence without experience is just noise. Show graphs, impressions, or both.>Cognitive dissonance.When you're presented with a truth that threatens your entire perception of the world around you, your brain will simply refuse to process it.This has been your scheduled break from pos groupthink.
>>110150261>experience comparable to high-end full-range loudspeaker systemspff good luck with that one
>>110150694>When ear canals get irritateddoesn't happen
ZERO 3 IS OUT!THIS IS NOT A DRILLBUY BUY BUYZERO 3 IS OUT!THIS IS NOT A DRILLBUY BUY BUYZERO 3 IS OUT!THIS IS NOT A DRILLBUY BUY BUY BUY
>>110151901Oh shit he's right. It's on Amazon.
>>110151907Amazon you say? It's also on AliExpress.
>$40yeah im out!
>new posjust eq bruh
>>110151901>$30 on linsoulWhat were they thinking
What are we plugging our RU7 into today lads?
I'm glad RU7 is under $200 and still being produced.
What is the poor man’s alternative to Sony Walkman NW-WM1ZM3
>>110152989>>110152981>>110152969>spyware linkNigga...
>>110152937This + dongle https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3256807764385286.html
Turned my K11 R2R into a deltasigma by running it in 1-bit mode and having foobar2000 upsample to DSD256. Now I have paypig performance for only $100.
are these any good?
>go to ASR>another headpos broscience thread>new preference bounds look retarded>amir calls the trannies out>trannies get mad>The CEO of Fox is in the threadhttps://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/new-headphone-measurement-database-by-the-headphone-show.74042/page-12#post-2706421omg this hobby is too funny
>>110150466The paypigs depend on /iemg/, otherwise their purchase has no purpose.
>>110153233>>I searched for your reviews, and that is the latest one that popped out. If your own writing discredits you, and as fresh as this September, then you have some serious soul searching to do. What you wrote was so much anti-science, that any pretense otherwise is laughable.>>>You have another review you want me to read that shows you actually care about science and engineering? And stuff you promoted in your article?>>>What is your background in science and engineering? I read your bio but didn't tell me anything related to this. Where did you learn all the vocabulary you use? Surely not AES. Correct?
>>110153314The funny thing is none of this is scientific.>science and engineeringNotice how they have to lump in engineering because building these products is infact electrical engineering. But they're not even doing that. No wonder the Replication Crisis is happening. They can repost papers, but they can't ever replicate them.
Engineering is when you load up 15 DSP filters in foobar2000. Science is when you claim Harman works across all music genres, people and products because there's a German autist who has autism. In the end we're all listening to tunes on a computrer. If this is science then I'm a banana.
>>110153376Science is when fox faceplate.
>>110153233Holy fuck it's getting really heated there.
what is the point of the ru7 when you can just get an r-2r or hybrid delta-sigma + tube dongle?
>>110153233Who is CEO of fox?
>>110153314You really just wojakified this? AI makes 'jaks now? It's over
>>110153476Shanling ua7 costs more and doesn't really need the tubes. The opamps work without it.
>>110153476What's the point of hybrid delta-sigma + tube dongle when you can just get a normal dongle.
Why is JM-1 so good, bros?
>>110153696it's not. it's only good because you add preference filters and remove LMR
how can they like something that doesn't measure correctly? this is anti-science.
>>110154092Nobody asked, "Why is Cornish Cross chicken marinated in teriyaki for 10 days in a fridge then put in a smoker for 5 hours so good", retard.And you just clarified why JM-1 would be considered good, which exactly was the point. So thank you.
>>110154241>chicken analogyidk i bother replying to POC
dynamic heft? what the fuckfast? whatever that is..COHERENT timbre!? i'm gonna be sick
>>110153233Just read the whole thread and my head hurts. Still waiting for an expanation for how clearly harsh headphones can fall within the new preference bounds.
>>110154317Because bounds are retarded. Curves with similar level of preferences have similar relation of bass to treble but different mids. Maybe you could pin down bass and treble and make mids huge instead. That will filter out obviously bright and muddy bullshit. But that's still just a fundamentally stupid idea.
>>110153495It's a mystery.
>>110154393Right. I agree, even assuming as true that the one line Harman target is insufficient to predict listening preferences, putting an error bar at every frequency along the Y axis is wrong, because magnitudes matter in relation to other frequencies, not just it's own frequency, in listening to music.If it were up to me, we should ditch the bound, keep the Harman line, and calculate the rate of change, or curvature, from one range of frequencies to another of the measured headphone or iem, against itself. Characterizing a FR plot with curvature would tell us bright vs dark, which these bounds cannot do.Although I never read the original Harman paper or the listener article lol.
>>110154287you eat chicken at a knockoff Ukrainian KFC, though.
>>110154570This all comes from the retarded idea of trying to appease the highest number of normgroids. Obviously giving descriptors for the FR that you can then choose from is better. And there was that tool recently that searched for similar IEMs, it just doesn't understand the concept of bright and dark.
Post your orders dawgs
>>110154759I'm waiting on a order of premium eartips from Pentaconn.
I have extremely high hopes for this one.
Just do what I did and get free iems from reviewers. Don't even need to use coins or Chinese spyware
>>110154759why did you buy that pos...
last pos i ordered, not here yet
wanna buy kz vibe x and nicehck tears. everyone says the stock cable for both sucks though. any recommendations for what to buy? also which eartips are good these days?
Lmaoing at the nigga that bought this.>but muh magnets
>>110154759Holy mother of headpos
>>110154928>just beg for used iems goyyeah nah cunt
>>110155207There's kbear st12 for 4.4mm and 3.5mm going for $7.50https://a.aliexpress.com/_m0MFBEJnicehck tears is a $5 shitbud if you use coins see picrel. could also get the kbear st12 this way and pay even less + use a bigger couponsmoondrop spring tips and tangzu sancai noble are also $5-10
I'll also buy kz vibe x next sale
>>110155411I think this is 1 of the 5 good pos KZ ever made out of literally 100 of models they shat out over years
>>110155461Nice, do you own them?
would all this hold a candle to 1 pair of foam tips
>>110155461>1 of the 5 good pos KZdawn, edc pro, kz vibe x, libra x, kunten, edx lite latest revision, castor regular, ed9 pro
>>110155535bit of a dumb question when comfort/enjoyment for one person is the exact opposite for millions of other people
KZ is actually a legendary company, they even filter midwit plebian paypigs
Even KZ's meme iems are groundbreaking. 5DD for $20
Would KZ be the Pollock or Picasso of iems??
kz is based.
anyone have the final audio b3? see some on the used market and they look so cooldont really care about the sound, moreso how it aged, the feel of it, comfort, etc. yk, the stuff that reviews dont spend much time on for some godforsaken reason
>>110155828>the used marketIf it seems like a good deal, go for it. First ask the seller about any problems they have had with them while they owned it and go from there.
>>110154317they literally explained why
kz is endgame. Nightcraft Vesper 8W improves its techs.
>>110153233CEO of Fox becoming an unironic ASR poster is the funniest development.Also Amir is a retarded boomer who is out of touch, Sean Olive talks with the Headpos Show guys and Sharur pretty frequently and had a hand in both their projects.
>simply beautifully tuned>simply superb tuning>rich and full-bodied>comparing these headphones to the Dunu Talos? They sound roughly on par>Knowledge Zenith truly managed to reach a whole new level
not IEMs but hpg is gone so i apologizeany recommendation for comfortable closed back headphones? to date my 598s are the most comfy cans i've ever owned but i want some closed backs that sound Good Enough and are comfortable enough to forget that i'm wearing them
>>110155535Foam tips never as good as a silicon tip that fits just right
Amir is having a huge melt down over these new bounds. I think they are silly but does he really have to go nuclear on listener for it
>>110156109Limited choices for closed backs, unless you want to dab in wireless. I like my Fiio FT1, added a capra strap from DMS's rec, just wore it for half a day. Low clamp force on my head, with cup swivel, large and roomy thick pads.
>>110153233why is amir malding so hard? can't he be like less emotional? lol
>>110156103does amir not get that >single standardshould be a bit more than a single line lol?
the whole thread reeks of engineering vs academia, and for those wondering, yes there is a massive chasm between both fields.
>>110156485>engineering vs academiayou'll have to be specific about competing sides at play. all engineering comes from the academia that provides the curriculum. you mean to describe the endless pissing contests and arguments between fields of audio science and fields of audio engineering rather than "engineering vs. academia", which means nothing
>>110156485academia is not involved tho lolit's reviewers vs reviewers
>thinking Harman comes from academia
>>110156547define academia
>>110156565Define science. Then define biology. Then try and define a woman. Hint: you can't.
>>110156596Define sandbox.
>>110156658Define CSD plots
>>110156665A crazy set of moveable points.
>>110156668Define REW
>>110153233A fascinating topic. It brings to mind some measurements, I believe for the HD 800S. Taken on different individuals. The very same model could show a 10–15 dB variance in certain frequency ranges, depending on the person. For some of them it was neutral or even warm sounding headposThat said, it’s reasonable to assume (and, in fact, far more likely) that someone recommending, for instance, a bright-sounding pair of HiFiMAN or Beyerdynamic headphones simply doesn’t know what they’re talking about. Often, this is just a classic case of someone having spent their money on a product and becoming convinced that it’s the absolute best choice. They refuse to to acknowledge idea that having an "itchy ear" after just a few minutes of listening isn't actually normal. Also ASR is retarded
Define define
>>110156596you went masks off a bit too fast... I accept your concession tho
>>110156755Define wrong 2-pin cable
>>110156596A woman is what we will all become :)
>>110156757I want the world to see me take your concession
>>110156766We all start as women in the woumb, but then we evolve further and grow some balls
>>110148184Broscience won. Harman has fallen. Science will now enter another 1000 years of darkness as society evolves into Star Wars level forgotten technology and engineering enters a golden age.
Apologize.
>>110156894They apologize for polluting the planet with outdated trash?
>>110156959Repent of your sins and you will be forgiven
>>110156972I bought CRN and sold it 4 hours later.
Scientists will now repent of their sins for leaving the creator out from his own process.
Do you think you can just commit autism and get away with it? Pride comes before the fall.
>>110156685>Often, this is just a classic case of someone having spent their money on a product and becoming convinced that it’s the absolute best choice.its a zoomer thing, they do it with literally every product they own and get extremely angry if you don't agree with them. Meanwhile you can find 1k page forums about boomers shitting on whatever speaker/headphone they own and things they did to improve it, like mods or tube amp choices. It's why forums like ASR are pure cancer, because if you don't repeat what amir says you are deaf or uninformed which is just boring like that screenshot from last thread where he wants every headphone to sound identical>I believe for the HD 800S. Taken on different individuals. The very same model could show a 10–15 dB variance in certain frequency ranges, depending on the personchanges a lot on placement of it and how the vertical height is from most peoples anecdotal experience but tylls graphs showed the same from memory, fun headphone but its pretty bright it's probably one of the hardest headphones to talk about in general because the second some retard tries it while exclusively listening to lolicore or some trash electronica they flip out, but if it's well recorded classical or something acoustic it's a very different storyi could never use any of the eq's people set up for it, basically all sounded like dog shit in my opinion >>110156103literal humiliation ritualyou will buy one of 50 chink planars that sound identical with the exact same failing headbands and you WILL be happy. whenever people post his audience getting redpilled its always fun to see
>>110157100he posted traffic numbers doubling HP.com as proof his content matters more unironically in the thread, ignoring HP.com's traffic is almost always through their Youtube for review content. Not to mention with how dead threads are on ASR it's clear the bulk of his "traffic" is just Google promoting ASR first in a lot of cases.People stopped seriously engaging with ASR once their DX5II's started blowing up and Amir dismissed it yet again.
>>110156466People really don't remember that Amir:>is the reason Microsoft gave up on audio codecs, because Amir wasted so much of their time and money on it>he was fired by Bill Gates personally for being comically incompetent>he spent years defending the AES papers that were the precursor to MQA, claiming he could hear the difference between them and Redbook and he had golden ears (despite literally being deaf)>unmodded his entire forum and panic shut down every MQA thread when his entire site turned on himEven solderdude disagrees with Amir in 90% of threads, I cannot fathom why he still posts there.
>>110157359>People stopped seriously engaging with ASR once their DX5II's started blowing up and Amir dismissed it yet again.kekhim and his goy audience spending years seething at schiit over nothing only for them to end up with their rme dac2 clone exploding their headphones. I really don't know how anyone took him seriously after his first year of being a total faggot to everyone for no reason
>>110157359I have witnessed instances where something was recommended or advised against based not even on the full review from his forum, but simply on those charts where he compiles all the devices he has measured into a single graph.
>>110157100>yfw hd800 is actually one of the better behaving headphones in this regard
multikilobuck gear is for listening to asmr on youtube
>>110158588audiophiles spend 1k+ to listen to anime osts, ASMR and movie scoresi'm one of those incels, except the movie score part, i have some self respect >>110158563its such a weird headphone, it has such little clamp that it will literally fall off your head if you look down for 3seconds. so it moves a lot but i think most people use it pushed all the way backstill makes eqing it annoying for people if the guy who eqd to some meme target placed it entirely different than you are, and some fatties use the headband down to max
>>110153117Sheeeeeeeit paypigs btfo
>>110158588multikilobuck gear is for anime girl musicmidwits: noooo that's not the hans zimmer chungus it was intended formultikilobuck gear is for anime girl music
I only listen to real music.https://youtu.be/AcvmeEjirmY
this band never gets old for me, especially their early stuffhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cP4I_kHmC-Q
$55 HE-R9$250 HE6se$100 ebay HD 700$50 ebay Fostex T50RP mk2$100 aliexpress R2R dac in 1-bit mode with foobar2000 outputting DSD256$250 ebay ESP-950$650 Nectar Audio HiveXHeadpos is solved.
>>110159302>$650 Nectar Audio HiveXdont these tend to have issues? seen some headfi post about the drivers getting stuck and kind of kills the whole jap larp of electrostatsstill havn't found any locally after all this time, ebay fees in canada are just pure cancer
>>110159348I don't know, I think there's a warranty. They don't cost that much to produce
>>110159348Bros entire collection is nothing but issues.
>>110159377A small price to pay to solve headpos.
>>110159385$5 IEMs solve headpos.
Why are there no good iems for gaming
>>110159427there are
>>110159458Which ones? I want something that works well for both games and casual music
>>110159467tanchjim bunny gthe g is important
>>110159427you need two 16 inch subwoofers and 360 surround speakers for gamingwhen a grenade goes off you should be afraid irl and experience temporary hearing loss
>>110159467bunny dsp, zero 3, gate, cadenza 1/2, waner 1/2/redpretty much any somewhat competently tuned pos should be good for boththe problem is their behavior inside your specific ear+your preferences
>>110159427g10
>>110159474>>110159497>>110159513Okay thanks for some examples. Going to see if they are within my budget, 50-70 dollars
>>110159475Unacceptable latency for gaming.
do iems require a dac?
>>110159667generally nobut it dependsusing a cheap dongle (like apple one) is a good practice
>>110159302nice shit, nice to see older stuff too. Iems are in a bad state if a post about some rather mediocre headpos managed to stir up more emotion in me.he6se driven with what?
>>110159667u can destroy your hearing with digital volume, like on my pc my iems need volume between 4-8/100. As we know with windows its gamble and i had few close calls with these. So i bought external dac amp with gain settings and volume wheel to avoid destroying my ears
>>110159667trn black pearl with a balanced cable is minimum
>>110159521Don't buy any of that hot garbage, a $5 shitbud is more than enough for gaming.
>>110159783>he6se driven with what?ebay nad 2100
>>110159667only if you wanna play music through it
>>110159858>balanced
>>110159667>requireOnly if you get one with a 4.4 connector that doesn't plug into your standard 3.5.
>>110155596+ sonata, decet, pr2, as16, vaderAlready up to 13
>>110159997I have a pair of KZ AS16 Pro and they are so fucking uncomfortable that I can't wear them without feeling pain
Unless KZ started making IEMs with 3d printed shells there's 0 good KZ IEMs.
Vinylhttps://files.catbox.moe/5hl39c.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/7yv70w.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/s4wwta.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/t82i2u.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/otqik4.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/mrxnc8.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/wuknnq.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/kr73d1.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/3t2hq2.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/y1va98.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/coxlrd.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/zahq7d.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/8e78n0.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/gw0cia.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/qx55dk.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/ojkvvk.flachttps://files.catbox.moe/mnqc9i.flachttps://files.catbox.moe/xe1nof.flachttps://files.catbox.moe/8r27ye.flachttps://files.catbox.moe/29a93k.flachttps://files.catbox.moe/rw62a1.flachttps://files.catbox.moe/ndt7jf.flachttps://files.catbox.moe/ts93fd.flachttps://files.catbox.moe/7h5dsk.flachttps://files.catbox.moe/umm3gh.flacDSDhttps://files.catbox.moe/laedyk.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/bka0ds.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/uhkd9e.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/wlwc7e.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/x9xu8a.wvhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/vni5rsv8.wvhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/u0z0unmb.wvhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/vnw48nb8.wvhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/puonfko.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/mytuqp.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/vopou0.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/oooraw.wvhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/th6n048e.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/gl69ac.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/si3ph6.wvhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/plf95f91.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/cbde2c.wvhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/ho342av2.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/xn0r9v.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/wdrrga.wvhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/nzelg02x.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/j9yavo.wvhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/c738hnxg.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/3uy53s.wvhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/djkxy3f.wv
>>110160046Deaf.
When I wrote 5 I meant:EDA BalancedSaga Bass or BalancedEDC ProVibe XEvery other KZ IEM in existence belongs in the trash. I know there are shills here that literally get paid to promote and get free IEMs to shill KZ here so this opinion might not be popular but it is the factual one.
Vinylhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/0k4dlt03.wvhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/6az78sjg.wvhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/4o9mpw31.wvhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/v200pmz1.wvhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/okny9qkj.wvhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/7bm0c5mm.wvhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/if3paxlr.wvhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/8a50lw5x.wvhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/mtbs18sp.wvhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/60cu3fw8.wv
>niggas arguing over which of their 5-10 models are goatedKZ won.
just ordered moondrop chu 3 feels good
just ordered a generic chu knockoff feels good
>>110160160ED9 Pro mogs all that
>>110160264No, that's dogshit
>>110160419Where's Kunten in your list
>>110159667IEMs require a DAC, I recommend K11 R2R set in 1bit mode with foobar2000 upsampling to DSD256 with a kbear 4.4mm cable, chu2 and foam tips. This will cost about $120 but it's a small price to pay for endgame.
>>110160454does a fiio k3 work fine?
I’ve been testing Sovereign Symphony 8W again. The newer version uses a twist braid so it’s comfortable on the ears but long listening still hurts. Maybe I need one with earhooks.Comparing the SS8W with the SS4W, the 8W is surprisingly brighter/leaner than the 4W. Each cable upgrade is warmer than its predecessor (SS4W is warmer than Sov2w, Sov2w is warmer than Mira etc.), so this is a departure from the norm. However, the 8W does stage wider and deeper than the 4W, and makes the 4W sound claustrophobic in comparison. The 8W’s more extended/smoothed treble helps contribute to its airiness and spaciousness. The 4W’s treble is more forward in that regard. However, I really much prefer the tonality of the 4W over the 8W. You get a more natural mid timbre and low-end impact with the 4W. With the SS8W you lose too much of the dynamics and low-end definition. 4W is a more V-shaped coloration which is better suited to my prefs. With 8W you’d probably have to run some thick mud sources to bring the low-end back, maybe something like the Riviera Labs or Trafomatic Primavera.Personally idk if it’s worth the upgrade ($11,000 vs $5,500) over the Sov 4W. I guess if you just want to stagemaxx.
>>110160495Upgrade to Gate cables.
love totlzo as much as the next guy but this reads like satire
I spent last night trying to compare a dongle with a larger portable amp, but I couldn't reach any clear conclusions. it even seemed to me that dongle had better bass but I tried volume match them to vocals so it might be just vocals pushed back a little. Besides different headpos this shit sound pretty much the same for me. And even is i hear something ow am I supposed to know that this isn't just a case of poorly done volume match between them?I wish I had even 10% of your hearing ability.
>>110160898If you want definitive answers for shit like these you should get one of those $80 Chinese couplers. Humans are not reliable. Some dacs don't even measure flat. You'd probably need one of those $50K audioprecision rigs to properly evaluate but if a dac doesn't measure flat a simple loopback cable will catch that too I think.
>>110159497I went with cadenza 2
graphsworks looks cool but holy shit a subscription model? wtf are they thinking
>>110161100Are those.. buttplugs?
>>110161078it's 2026... just decompile it
Any Overwatch/CS/tac FPS players rocking IEMs here? I'm looking to switch over from a shitty gaymer headset but not sure which to go with.
>>110161287Simgot EA500LM or TKZK Ouranos
>>110161287artti t10
>>110161161>indian ganges but make it IEMs instead of trash, contemporary architecture instead of slums
>>110161100all that for $0 with aliexpress coins btw
>>110161100What happens when you don't know how to buy IEMs.
I have an obsession for audio-technica products
>>110161078>avg iemg user can't afford $5/monthlol
>>110161995imagine shilling for subscriptions. let me guess, you don't mind every feature in your car being tied to a subscription fee either since you can afford it? fucking retarded goycattle
>>110162075seethe and dilate
>you will not own your EQ and you will be happy
Why opamps so expensive. And do I need 2 of them for each channel?
>>110161287KZ ZS12 PRO 2
>>110162263>KZ ZS12 PRO 2Mogged by CCA Hydro
>>110162323my CCAs broke after washing them once in my washing machine. never again
>>110162531lol no iems have a chance of surviving the washing machine
>>110160689The entire totl scene is satire.>what if we took portable audio... and made it NOT portable...>>110162197Because retards buy them.
Holy shit! GraphWorks EQ is already obsolete. Arch troons wonhttps://github.com/massiveadam/massiveeq
>>110161995
$5 Shitbud Alert
>>110161766do know*ftfy
>>110161995>oi do you have a software loicense to EQ that shitbud mate wee woo wee woo
>>110163245Those who know don't make 30 mistakes lol.
mfw kilopos paypigs get rekt by a $0 Kunten Pro
>>110163325>$0THD is too low so techs are nonexistent. Hard pass.
>>110163361PR2 autoeq to kilopos is the new meta?
>>110159302How do you like the SR007?
Are multi driver iem the go to for gaming?
>>110163463the new meta is copying HRTFs from people with golden ears and factoring that into our EQ
>>110163613do they do leg day or just ohps, curls, etc
hi im a tourist shopping for wired earbudshow come over the ear is so prevalent? I can see why you'd want it on a stage but for any other situation i'd rather not have the discomfort of wires tangled around my ear
>>110163682the wire is covered with soft plastic hope this helps
>>110163682You can get flat heads or bullet style.
>>110163682Wire over ear reduces the load on the tips, cable microphonics and makes IEMs slide out less.
>>110160494It would work but it wouldn't be 1-bit R2R dac endgame
>>110164052Of course not. Even 1 bit R2R wouldn't be endgame.
>>110162664Graphworks was obsoleted by uploading your song to squig, which is like their main selling point - smoothly adjusting EQ while listening.
Buy your Cayin RU7 for only $145 here https://www.usaudiomart.com/details/650366895-cayin-ru7-dongle-dacamp/
>>110164161>based PR2>cringe wrong 2-pin cablejust get the right cable, my guy. also, justify the price point of the RU7 if you could.
>>110164227It has line out and isn't far off from K11 R2R, outputs 400mw.
>>110164227DAC technology have not caught up with the incredible distortion of PR2 yet so you gotta spend more.
The paypigs don't want you to know that you can upsample DSD256 to a 1-bit R2R DAC.
>The paypigs don't want you to know that you can upsample Bulgaria to a banana
i am now calling rusbum ceo. ceo, please grace us with another fucked up pic
The paypigs don't even know that upsampling adds zero extra detail or enhancement to audio. If you want 'tube tone': add an overdrive or distortion plugin.If you want 'R2R tone': add a low pass filter.
>>110164358
The paypigs don't want you to buy a $95 K11 R2R or $145 RU7 and get foo_input_sacd for foobar2000 or pirated PGGB and send upsampled DSD256 to a cheap Aliiexpress 1-bit R2R dac, thus achieving their performance at a lower price point. Oink oink.
>>110164413Another option is making a shell script that plays through SoX.
Is this a competition to make the quality as low as possible? Just use beyer headphones.
>>110164497or hd 600
>>110163499TRN VX Pro+ 1DD+8BA for $30TRN ST7 2DD+5BA for $20
>>110159131K11 R2R and TA-66 were combined $250 at one point lol
Then get yourself a box of $0 shitbuds to own the paypigs.
>listener btfo by 2 jeets in a row
$0 knockoff chus + $145 cayin ru7 + $0 foam tips + $5 kbear st12 4.4mm cable + $20 galaxy s4 with symfonium or neutron player upsampling to dsd256total: $175
https://youtu.be/7DIhUx1JaRQ
AR3000 will solve headpos tomorrow
>>110164926Just autoeq the knockoff chus to mega5est or chuzo + convolver and it's endgame
IEMs are solved, cheers.
>>110164966>warmpoosorry i need my female poison
>>110165122female poison speed runs hearing loss, don't fall for it
https://www.amazon.com/portal/customer-reviews/B0C7PNV6KF/ref=cm_cr_dp_mb_show_all_top?_encoding=UTF8&ie=UTF8&reviewerType=all_reviews"OMG, THIS IS THE HOLY GRAIL OF DACS!With dsd128 Vinyl captures, played through USB audio pro bit perfect mode, the sound stage is holographic, every instrument breathes its own space and transient depth. The special realism is astonishing.I'm listening through fiio ft1 composite wood driver headphones, it's like reference monitors strapped to my head, lol.I tried the hifi muse m3 Ultra with Jan tubes, very warm , clean DAC, but the cayin ru7 elevated the smooth analogue bloom to a whole new level.I was chasing getting free of PCM quantization artifacts and sharp digital cold glare. High bit PCM came close, but dsd128 from vinyl capture broke the barrier and no more glassy piercing siblance, just smooth warm detailed non fatigued bliss.Adding the 1 bit resistor array of the cayin ru7, into the chain eliminated the last distortion from Delta sigma DAC modulation and over sampling that occurs from splitting the dsd128 steam into segments.The dsd128 into aPure 1 bit steam resistor array is true linear path from vinyl record to the ears. I can hardly believe vinyl can sound this good.I captured the vinyl into dsd128 with a korg ds-dac-10r dsd capture device with a douk p7 tube phono preamp and rolled nos 60s Sylvania Baldwin tubes into the line RCA of the korg ds-dac-10r. So rich, I cannot go back to PCM."
>>110165223>A whole lotta bullshit just to enjoy music."Never again", I said.
>>110165246The amazon reviews of RU7 are absolute cringekino. You simply have no taste.
>>110165255see >>110164376
>>110164926
>>110164926The free version of neutron player upsamples to DSD256
>Honeymoon with Weiss Helios endedI still like the 300b amp but now I think the Helios dac is boring af. Back to the drawing board, I wanna try the Allnic D-15000 dac for the thematic pairing.
Hi, /iemg/. I need your advice. Can you recommend me some bluetooth noise-cancelling earbuds/iems? I want to be able to put hearing protection on top of them, like Peltor Optime, unless you deem it overkill. Everybody seems to listen to fucking reels on speaker mode nowadays and there are so many fights I can pick throughout the week.>BudgetBelow 100-150 EUR / USD, but flexible. I want the best noise cancelling for the money. So if the sweet spot of bang for the buck is higher, tell me and I'll make sure these last me a long time.>Intended use (media, source, environment)media: Listening to music, podcastssource: Phone or, rarely, laptopenvironment: Out on the street, public transportation.>Frequency response preference and music examplesI don't know enough about spectral analysis and my preferences to say>Past gear and your thoughts on themI am not really an audiophile, but I liked the Tangzu Waner 2. I also have some blue viddo that I find fine.Thanks in advance
Only poweramp and neutron does it
What's the current year stack for uploading music files on a server and serving it in a player, with playlists, and a search function? Basically soundcloud but without all the bullshit of having to create an account, inadequate library, and tracks disappearing all the time?
>>110166046i just put a microsd card into my phone haha
>>110166046You have a few methods, all of which will require you to get your own local music files>syncing between computer host and mobile playerYou have a lot of options here. Musicbee has sync support, fobbar2k probably too. Syncthing is also workable. However, all of this does mean that you will be playing files that are on your phone. Handy if you don't have network access but it can be too much storage after a while>computer host with jellyfin/plex/navidrome/azuracastYour computer is now the streaming service. Might require messing around with stuff before it works as intended but you don't need to worry about your mobile player's local storage.
>>110164227>>110156763What's wrong with using the wrong 2pin cable?
>>110166095nta but it just looks ugly as sin. also, not a good idea to add a protruding 2pin cable on qdc, you have a lot of torque acting on the shroud which is already fragile
>>110164926What happens when you don't know how to EQ.
>>110166095some of the metal pins are exposed to air and moisture. the pins are easier to bend because of leverage.
>>110166121Leverage, not torque.
>>110166199potato tomato
>>110166176Works on my poweramp
>>110166317wtf is DSD and why should i care?
>>110166328nta, but it's meaningless if you're converting from PCM. not even redundant, just absolutely unnecessary and you definitely should not care.
>>110166328RU7 is a 1-bit only dongle
>>110166331It literally won't play PCM, like all deltasigmas.
>>110166030>DSDImagine being this stupid. DSD adds distortion and can't ever be fixed, it's for braindead people who want 'bigger number better' like PCM over 48khz.
>>110166328>>110166331>>110166346The History of Digital Audio>sony uses 44/16 pcm for their vhs tape recorders and later CD>people realize running dac chips at a higher frequency sounds smoother and that 44/16 is a compromise>sigma-delta chips oversample using 1bit cuz less computationally intensive and lower power in spec sheets, new chips every year>sacd was going to be 96khz>pcm chips are on their way out>because oversampling is close enough to highres, sacd instead uses/develops DSD (direct stream digital) to bypass oversampling in the oversampling chips by having the format be the same 1bit oversampled signal>MSB pipes pcm into resistors, sells for $3000, nobody else figures this out for 15 years>people figure out how to pipe 1bit/sigmadelta/DSD into resistors
>>110166333Pathetic.>>110166337Even the cheapest deltasigmas are precise enough for more than 1 bit now. >>110166347Completely wrong and clueless.
uh oh, the paypigs are oinking already
>>110164413Now we watch the paid shills run damage control.
>>110166353"Paypigs" and he spent over $5 on a DAC lol.
>>110166347>people realize running dac chips at a higher frequency sounds smootherOnly audiophools ever thought that.It's always been wrong.
>>110166347There's a reason DVD-audio isn't a thing anymore because nobody gave a shit about 24-bit over 16-bit CD standard, soundwise. Than you have to ask yourself, "why didn't blu-ray audio albums catch on, then?" Same reason.
>PR2>The model that was silent revisioned ONE WEEK after the review units went out>Was already rapetreble and after the silent revision is even more rapetreble>Somehow some boomer is recommending this piece of shit 2 years later to everyone he seesI cannot believe some of you niggers
>>110166377Only the rape treble, the hiss of vinyl, the distortion of tubes and 400mW of power(for fucking IEMs) could unclog his ears, of course it's a revelation for him.
The paypigs go insane when you tell them $5 shitbuds are endgame.
>>110166347>"oversampling makes sounda smoother">people buy NOS DACs for the smoothness Bro can't even get his audiopedophile memes right.
the cheapest possible gear is necessarily the best. if you disagree you're coping which means i'm even more right. i win forever. checkmate, paypigs.
>There is no audible difference between plastic IEMs costing a dollar and an endgame setup costing thousands of dollars. But there is a difference between PCM and DSD.state of iemg
Are Moondrop Variations worth it in 2026? If I spent $500-600 on shitbuds that would make me a paypig, right?
>>110166480You seem on edge and in need of a hug
>le smoother soundingMost vague audiophile words used by iemg in unironic way.Can we even measure smooth sound? What does it even mean? I thought it was word salad describing non-existent thingsGrim
>>110166484autoeq edc pro to variations, shit brix
>>110166415Deafzo goes insane when you tell him $5 DACs are endgame.
Don't be fooled, /iemg/. Foxzo always shits up the end of the thread just to get to the bump limit faster. She's a creature of habit.
Good build quality, good accesories 1DD small size shitbud?Chu 3? Meze Alba? Other options?No plastic trash from KZ, GK or simillar, no resin too.
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>>110166560new meta:$0 knockoff chus https://a.aliexpress.com/_mqjPXxZ$0 foam tips https://a.aliexpress.com/_mPTniCJ$5 kbear st12 4.4mm https://a.aliexpress.com/_m0MFBEJ$145 cayin ru7 or k11 r2r 1-bit with poweramp/neutron/pggb upsampling to dsd256 https://www.usaudiomart.com/details/650366895-cayin-ru7-dongle-dacamp/
>>110166515If you ask normal people smoother means rolled off treble. But the deaf can't comprehend how treble works and that oversampling gives you more of it, not less.
>>110166570>"nobody took my bait so I have to reply to myself again"
>>110166578Meds.
>>110166565buying ru9 and fuck your tiny limpwrist dongle
>>110166560Hopefully you figured out you got a reply from a deaf KZ retard. Other metal IEMs in that range are lan 1/2, ruta 10 and ea500.
>>110166578>everyone took my bait so I don't need to reply
>>110166515Smoother is when you listen to an equivalent of angle grinder to remove all the imperfection from your ears.
>>110166633I use my JBL Live Buds 3 to drown out actual angle grinders.They justwerk.
>>110164962he's both right and wrong lolbut just as retarded as the rest of them
>>110166808He's at least smarter than foxzo, that's for sure
>>110166862You relate to him because you don't know what EQ is either. For you EQ is some garbage like sonarworks. Nobody is using that for a good reason.
so much hype for the zero 3 and not a single peep afterwards
>>110166899Shut up bitch we know what EQ is
>>110166963Moveable points is crazy.
>>110164962His argument is to minimize unstable factors and to get used to stable factors. Like, that you have to get used stock tuning just as much as you have to get used to EQ. This is immediately debunked by unplugging headphones and letting speakers play. Now you have two different tunings to get used to. With proper EQ you only need one. Even if you only have one pair of headphones and literally nothing else getting used to bad tuning is still a bad idea, you can literally fry your ears with unequalized treble.
>>110166965I accept your concession.
>>110166988Learn what EQ is.
>>110166992I know more than you by a long shot.
>>110167001You don't know what EQ is at all. You did not recognize what an EQ filter is and thought graphs have moveable points for some reason. Like you've never opened EQ in your entire life. Genuine toddler level understanding.
>>110167012Not reading all that crybaby shit lol. I know way more than you. It's been proven time after time how much more knowledgeable than you I really am, it's truly remarkable
>>110167018It's been proven every time you know absolutely nothing. You had to use chatgpt to read a graph lmao.
>>110167012>Genuine toddlerYou're literally the only anon here who acts like a pissbaby brat. >muh armchair knowledgelol
>>110167021Absolute emotional cripple with a learning disability. Chatgpt runs circles around you
>>110167046Pure projection as usual. Chatgpt told you how panning works and you still failed to learn anything.
>>110167060The projection is on you. A mixing board defeated your entire worldview and that's why you get emotionally charged when talking about this shit. Fucking failure.
>>110167076Mixing board buck broke you so hard that you starred thinking I was writing online articles to mess with you.
>>110167088*started
>>110167088Fascinating fanfiction. I taught you audio mixing. You only 'understand' audio on a tabloid level. Honey, get a grip
>>110167155I taught you that you didn't even understand what you're quoting. It agrees with me, not you.
Autistic screeching above
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