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Asrock released new security VBIOS for 7000 series GPUshttps://www.asrock.com/support/index.asp?cat=BIOS
now that I have a good oled monitor what gpu should I upgrade to? current setup is a 7800xt. I plan to stay on 1440p
Hi. I plan on cleaning my CPU's heat sink and fans soon. Is the thermal paste shilled by GM worth getting? And what should I use to clean off the thermal paste on my CPU after removing the heat sink?
>>110214905
>>1102149057800XT is fine for most games with the official FSR 4.1 upgrade.There's 0 financially sensible upgrades in this market.https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-7800-xt.c3839
>>110214930my current gpu is black though while the rest of my build is white so like maybe I should get a white 5080??
https://youtube.com/watch?v=MFDiuBomSuY
>>110214920Duronaut and MX-7 should be good enough for most people.Get Duronaut if you prefer to use a paste spreader, MX-7 just needs the cross application (draw X and let the cooler mounting pressure handle the rest).>what should I use to clean off the thermal paste on my CPU after removing the heat sink?You can use disposable lens wipes if you have them.Arctic sells MX Cleaning Wipes, but they leave behind a very strong odor. They updated the formula following customer feedback, dispose the used wipes to your outdoor trash bin asap.Noctua also sells disposable wipes, but they're pricier.https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09R1TMXR3https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MZ4K67Y
>>110214936Ask your case manufacturer to send you a solid side panel, tell them you'll pay for it.
>>110214905you need a rtx pro 6000
>>110214999>They updated the formula following customer feedbackwhen did this happen? I repasted my cooler with mx-7 at some point and the cleaning wipes that came with smelled awful
Paying $200 extra for a 5800X just to have 64MB of L3 cache glued on seems ludicrous to me.
>>110214884I want to upgrade by 5700x to 58003d mainly for emulation. But im not sure buying outdated CPU for ~$500 is worth it
>>110215064enjoy having a shitty cpu from an old platform instead of the best cpu of it's generation that ages far better and is still enough for gaming despite being almost 3 generations behind
>>110214999Do not draw X. A pea sized dot in the middle is the best way to spread evenly and avoid bubbles. Any other shape produces either airpockets, oozes onto the mainboard, or both.
>>110215064That cache keeps your data fresh in CPU time instead of it getting lost in dram refresh cycles. Makes a huge difference for sound quality more than DACs.
>>110215118https://support.arctic.de/mx-7 Arctic recommends the X
>>110215131just use ptm7950
>>110214905>oled>1440p
it's kind of insane but I actually think the pc parts prices are going to crash overnight next weekbecause trump literally destroyed the US with his AI policy, we have people vibecoding the entire adobe suite and full games that play into browsers now, the US is the country that loses the most with that because the US companies are the ones that sell digital services to the rest of the world, how did they not notice that was going to happen?when he loses the house and the senate they will force him to halt the AI expansion and censor AI models to save those companies but it might be too late already due to how close the chinese are with their modelssomething is going to happen with regards to AI starting next week and it will have a bearish tone to it, some slowing down needs to happenand that means relief for the consumers
>>110215215nigga prices are never coming down
>>110215215
>>110215215it's enough that the democrats dont want to bail out AI companies if things go south to make investors reconsider but if they pull it off is another question. At least OpenAI missed its target of the current funding round so they might run sooner out of money than previously expected.
>>110214999>buying branded wipes with funny juice that's not just alcoholAre we serious?
>>110215316I suggested any lens wipes first.I also tried out of those products.The Arctic & Noctua wipes cleans off thermal paste grease much better.>>110215047Maybe they just added the lemon zest.
>>110215316>Dumbass thinks TechSpray isn't a corporate brand.It literally has a registered trademark for brand protection.
>>110215215AI is also a digital service that the US can sell, and the US monopoly on AI is even stronger than any other digital service. It's only China that offers some competition.
>>110215086but the 5800x3d is $330
>>110215433u're replacing thousands of software companies with 2 companies that employ 200 people, it's going to cause a revolution
>>110215458I'll believe it when I see it.
How is Gigabyte MO32U24 in terms of watching hdr movies? I'm stuck between this one and LG C6 48. From what i see LG is brighter and supports dolby vision but it's more expensive where i live.
IPS or OLED1440p or 4K27" or 32" QD-OLED or W-OLEDtriangle subpixel or RGB Stripe$500 or $1000
>>110215493OLED TVs are better for HDR media consumption.
>>110215493for kinos, TV's are better and its not even close a 55" s90f is better than the c6 48
Will the next Ryzen generation be worth upgrading to, or are current-gen options good enough to stick with for 2-3 years?Thinking of getting a 7800x3d/9800x3d OEM bundle since it's the only way to get around the retarded RAM prices.
>>110215515>>110215552Thanks. I might as well wait for a month then, since it's November.
>>110215354Lens wipes aren't always alcohol based.Pure isopropyl wipes is what gets used for both the tops and bottoms of CPUs where I work. Excuse my skepticism as we're paranoid about any microdot of crap as it tends to fuck with lanes and memory.
>>110215577zen 7 if you have ddr5, zen 8 for ddr6
you can tell this general is full of retarded millennial boomers because every other thread is about TVs, nobody under 25 has a fucking TV. I've lived alone for 4 years and I don't have a TV. None of my friends that live alone have TVs.
>>110215732why do tvs make you seethe this hard
>>110215732You can use TV as a cheap large monitor, they are pretty bad though.
why can't noctua manufacture an AIO without bending fins in the radiator? I just had to order my third 240mm to try and get one with no bent fins. i fucking refuse to pay a premium for bent fins
>>110215577wait for zen6 12 core x3d, it will be your forever cpu before the war
>>110215732I have 3 TVs
>>110215786statusmaxing as a cope for heightcels, you hate to see it
RTX 5070 non TI or RX 9070?Main use is VR and casual games, i rather get the best card possible before they dissapear this black friday or prices increase even more.
>>110215732Ok boomer. Nobody under like 60 has a TV, unless they're heavily into smth like sports or gaming.
>>110215732TV died.News are fake.TV shows suck.Netflix sucks.And most people who live alone watch a 24" monitor instead or a 8" phone if they are poor.At best its used for old series and movies but nobody will pay $1000+ for a TV just for that.
Rate and hate my bait
>>110215825Bit sideways.
>>110215086>I want to upgrade by 5700x to 58003d mainly for emulation. But im not sure buying outdated CPU for ~$500 is worth itAm4 isn't getting any faster anon. When the time comes to upgrade you can either be setting on a 5700x system or a 5800x3d system.
>>1102158059070
poorfag neets projecting itt
>>1102158055070 or 9070XT before they hit $1000 it's already too late for the 5070TI
>>110215086Wouldn't a 5950X make more sense for emulation
>>110215086You gain basically no fps. A 9600X3D would be way better if AMD ever released it.
>>1102149055070 Ti if you find one for MSRP kek
>>110215021Just one?
>NVIDIA RTX 5080 24GB reportedly launching by January 2027, replacing 16GB modelsave your money only a couple months outi'm gonna say itI'M GONNA SAY IT...............wait
>>110215577Why didn't you buy earlier when shit was still affordable?Makes me wonder every time. Why only now?
>>110214905best value is 9070 with XT bios. closer to 9070XT than stock 9070. and closer to 5070Ti than 5070.
>>110215756Serves you right for not buying an Arctic Liquid Freezer.
>>110216049>only $2500 msrp for a shitty gpu that is not even 10% better than the $600 9070 xt
>>110216057wrong
>>110214905You already know the answer
>>110215732>all of my friends are poor retards and not enthusiastmaxxed hdrenjoyersok and? nobody cares>nobody under 25 has a fucking TVnobody has a 5090 gaming pc either you retard>I've lived alone for 4 years and I don't have a TV.you have a TV (read display) except it's tiny because you are POOR and RETARDTV=Display
anyone else remember on release day how this general was screaming that the 9070xt was going to be a flop because of the $750 price?and now nvidia isn't even selling cards.
>>110215600>Excuse my skepticism as we're paranoid about any microdot of crap as it tends to fuck with lanes and memory.The people who made those wipes are aware of retards like you.
>>110216201Bet everyone would be lining up to buy a 9070XT for 750 USD at this point. That's dirt cheap.
>>110216183>msi Gaming RTX 5070 TI 16G FRIEREN Edition OC Graphics Card (16GB GDDR7, 256-bit, Extreme Clock 2572 MHz, DisplayPort x 3 2.1a, HDMI 2.1b, NVIDIA Blackwell Architecture)>Deliver to Alex- Boise 83709>New>$1,799.99$1,799.99>FREE delivery Friday, November 6.
>>110216234it's a nice collection
>>110216201Some poorfag niggers just fell for the $500 9070 XT rumors.
fucking poorfags
>>1102162825070 = 4090 that's why it dominates the charts
>>110216282>5090 not even on the listI thought nvidia buyers were all rich?
>>110216303We are an elite bunch.
>intel stock -45% last month>-25% today It's over (Still wish I bought and 5xd and sold)
>>11021623470 tis doubled in price from the low now No I don't need to game modern game I guess I'll just sleep for a while
>>110216366>29% down in a single daylmao
>>110215825i have the same cooler in black
>>110216366shintel got a lot of praise when they showed panther lake because it's legit a good product and then literally hid the fucking chips, you can't find them anywhere instead of mass producing it to lower the prices, they went back to focus on getting raped by amd in the server space instead and now lost all their momentum
>>110216303lol 5090GODS don't use fucking steam
Is this good for $500 form market place?>12900k>z690 ddr4 mobo>32gb ddr4 ram>850w PSUI already have 128gb or ddr4 ram and a 5070ti so I can just plug them in and use the system for the next decade.
>>1102163035090 niggas arent playing games
Intel stock will continue to bleed until their fabs deliver a highly-demanded process node.None of the nodes in the pic managed to live up to the hype.Other companies would be bankrupt after these failures.18A was supposed to be the turnaround node, now it's 14A.
>>110216449no
>>110216449Fair price considering a used 14700K with questionable reliability are sold at around $250 to $300.
>>110216234
I need a>Motherboard>CPU>RAM>SSDYou guys think the price of these will go down at all on Black Friday/cyber Monday to warrant waiting until then to purchase them or should I just buy this shit now?
>>110216513Buy them now if you spot a good bundle deal, especially if there's a Micro Center nearby.Newegg offers some decent CPU + DRAM + Motherboard bundles fairly regularly.
I can't believe I've been using ips monitors for yearsthis oled is just... natural. like this is how everything should look.
>>110216454it was supposed to be 20a LOL
>>110216454tbf 18a was pretty good in mobile with panther lake
>>110216513>motherboardmaybe>cpuyes>ramLOL>ssdLMAO
Intel is major fucked atm because they rely on the shrinking PC market to absorb their older fabs' fixed costs.
>>110216603>intelaviv is dyingoh noanyways
>>110216611amd monopoly is just as bad as intel monopoly
>>110216625source?
>>110216625amd doesnt have factories in isn'treal like shintel and njeetia
>>1102160495080 is already hitting +2k. 24gb version is going to be 3-5k street price.
Compiling Shaders...
>Order a new case, Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2 Server Edition>Estimated shipping 1 week>Ordered it 3 weeks ago.This fucker is sold out everywhere and the delivery estimate keeps on shifting forward every week.It's the only reasonably priced case that can fit multiple GPUs.
>>110216513you may as well wait it's not like any of that shit is going to sell out in 3 weeks
>>110216366huh
>>110216513motherboard and cpu? yes you'll probably be able to buy some sort of combo of cpu+mobo that will be slightly discounted, ssd+ram? no, just buy what you can get that does what you need.>extremely grateful i have a galaxy brain and built my dream-giga-rig in early 2025, including a samsung 990pro gen4 4TB M.2 drive exclusively to hold all my games.
November is here
>>110216706What perplexes you? This is horrendous for a NASDAQ company across a 5 year timespan — Intel deserves to crash even more but it fucking sucks that they’re motivating the mass scare about AI
>>110216721They already crashed down to 20 bux last year I told niggers to buy Intel nobody boughted They were crazy cheap last year
>>110216714>Nothing to buy on sale>I quit consumerism now I don't care anymore
>>110216721How does a chip company that makes iterative improvements on cpus and makes 15 year bets on building fabs according to a roadmap suddenly gain 3 x valueIt was never real.
>>110216744remember the intel shareholders told them to sell their fabs and are angry they didn't
>>110216513you need a new case
>>110216449very good
>>110216788Wtf is wrong with my Corsair C70, I love this fat fuck
>>110214884
>>110216802i owned a corsair case i quite liked too, T700 i think, but when i built my giga-rig, upgrading to a antec flux pro was an insane improvement. Its all the little things that the technology in case-building has incorporated over the years that you don't really notice until you're building in one.The audio-muffling, the superior quality case fans that are absurdly quiet, the better cable management in the back, the better integrated rbg management and usb socket shit. Its just superior, every ~8 years its worth upgrading from even a top-tier case alone.
>>110214884Picking up a B850E, R7 9850, and 32GB of DDR5 from Microcenter tomorrow. These will be standby parts to upgrade my AM4 desktop when it finally shits the bed. I want to pick up a 9070 XT to round out the rebuild. What's the market projection? I wouldn't consider buying around the holidays a few years ago, but I don't know if the prices will go back down after the new year anymore.
I am tired of searching and waiting. I spent 1 year looking and searching. for the perfect monitor. Deciding IPS or OLED or MiniLED or VA. What resolution. Is dual mode worth it? What about burn in? Maybe the next miniled will be better. Maybe the next oled will be better. Maybe pulsar monitors will be better. Maybe I should get a TV. Maybe I should get a bigger desk. Maybe I should buy nothing. What size should it be. I know now. The perfect monitor does not exist. I waited and waited for RGB Stripe only for it to have poor uniformity, green tint shift, panel lottery and low brightness and more reflections than mirrors. The OP says just wait a few more months bro this time we'll fix it bro. Samsung Display is laughing. LG Display is laughing. They make two panels, both with massive pros and cons. They make one tiny improvement each year hike the prices and then repeat the cycle. Now they say next year monitor prices are all going up because we live in hell and this industry is cursed. I am buying this one. I will definitely have buyers remorse. I will definitely wonder if I should have waited. I will definitely be mad when the prices drop. I don't care any more. I'm so tired.
>>110217236Dual mode is just cope for high res monitors not having the capability to support a high refresh rate at its native resolution
>>110214884Can i safely buy the i7 14700k nowadays? Did they fix the instability issue?
>>110217236Get the ASUS model of this, PG32UCDM3
>>110217319Yeah update bios and check power limits but desu id wait for the new raptor lake cpus in jan
>>110217359>Same silicon stepping>Higher price from AI by Jan>Different nameThat's a no from me dawg
I think I'm picking up an m6 mbp. Do any of the other igpu offerings in a 14" laptop come close? It's for playing twenty year old mmos and shitposting in bed.
>>110217599You can do all of that on a Ryzen 5 8650hs
>>110217626except for the 20minutes of battery life, sure.
>>110217627Stop installing Russian cryptominers on your pc
>>110217626specifically looking at modern igpus because they do pretty well at higher resolutions and are very efficient. So like apple m6, snapdragon x2e, intel x7 358h. Ryzen AI series.
>>110217236Price seem pretty steep for that monitor.Wait for holiday discounts, it could go down to $900 (MSI store previously offered this price).
>>110217145AMD is set to pass on increased GPU + VRAM order costs this month.GPU prices won’t go down for a while.https://www.techpowerup.com/354332/amd-reportedly-plans-another-radeon-gpu-and-gddr6-kit-price-hike-for-november?amp
>>110218253Damn, that's so fucking greedy.
>>110215786This guy is just happy that someone wants to take his photo.
>>110216706>American government buys stake in Intel>price goes up>price now going down toward when they bought inWoopsy daisy.
>>110216982I dont get it openAI is currently not profitable and he basically told all non-business consumer to fuck off
>>110214884I wanted to upgrade my pc over the next months or so and need a new CPU and a new Motherboard + PSUI was thinking of getting the Ryzen 7 5700X since its pretty afordableI heard its aging though and i dont want to go trhough the trouble of buildiong a pc only to throw out most of the pices later on againI heard there are better cpus out there from Intel but i dont know much about themI just bought 2x16gb DDR4 ram sticks so i need a CPU/Motherboard that supports DDR4 and not 5Im not sure what Motherboard to pick up thoughI dont know much about this sort of stuff i asked Chatgpt and it recomended the Ryzen 5700x and an MSI B550M PRO-VDH WIFI MotherboardAre these good options?Overall evetything would cost around 300 Euros together witha new caseIm planning on buying the stuff next month and then also upgrade my gtx1060 grapcis cardI also need an SSD because load times are terrible for most games i play
>>110218682AMD's DDR4 stuff is pretty overpriced, but if you're locked into it, you've not got a whole lot of choice, yeah.Intel's newer 250K and 270K offer way better price:performance than AMD right now, but require DDR5.
>>110218740i already have the ram and dont want to buy DDR5 ram
>>110218801Look for a 12700k. The boards are getting hard to find new though. Last of the DDR4, no instability, no corrosion, they just work.
the little white led on my gpu seems to be dead. it still works though, do i need to worry?
>>110218861Your GPU now performs 0.03% faster now that the led power budget goes to the core.
>>110219235lmao. for real though is it something to worry about? looking at it it seems to be fried, some dark spot there. but my gpu works completely fine, good temps at 100 % load and so on.
>>110219245LEDs are completely optional. My PC has none except for the Ethernet port lol.
The prices of these things are way scarier than anything outside my house.
Is it worth it to upgrade from 9600x to 9800x3D?
>>110219343ok. so it can't affect the gpu in any way it gets fried then?`good to hear. though i wonder what caused it to fry, it's on a mildly used gtx 1660 i recently bought
>>110219361It's a lot better but it's nearly 2 years old and the 10800x3d will be released in 3-6 months
>>110219369Who knows? The LEDs on my Netgear have been going strong for 20 years but my night light is already dim.
Are GPUs, ram, and storage affordable yet??
>>110219443>but my night light is already dim.what's that? to be clear i mean the white little led that's always on to signal that the gpu has power, even if the computer is off
>>110219439I'm asking mainly because I found it at a 240 eurobucks, the 10800x3D will probably be well over double that when it hits the market
>Warthog RS case out of stockDamn. I guess I will go with the 4000D. Question, I'm planning on building my own NAS down the line, would a mini ITX would be sufficient to support 8 HDD? Does anyone knows of a good decent size case with hot swap capabilities?
>>110219492>what's that?
>>110219554aha, thought you meant some kinda night light INSIDE your computer
>>11021880114600K is safe to use, and provides better gaming performance than a 12700K.A stock 14600K doesn’t boost high enough to request dangerous levels of voltage (past 1.5V).>>110219361You might as well wait for Zen 6 X3D, the 9800X3D will likely be offered at a lower price by then.>>110219542Highly doubt a mini ITX case can house all those HDDs.Unfortunate the Warthog case is oos.
>>110219630I found a Jonsbo N3 Mini ITX that could support that. I might look into it.Man, I certainly need to get my parts now.
>>110219509Buy the discounted 9800X3D if it’s offered by a reliable seller.Make sure there’s a way to get your money back if you end up with a dud.Cover your ass.
>>110219667It's a reliable seller and I'll use paypal so it should be fine. Still hesitant because truth be told I don't need the upgrade that much but it's hard to pass up such an insane deal.
>>110219931240eur is pretty goodIt'll take quite some time to beat that, maybe from amd releasing a cut down 8 or 10 core zen6 x3d for under $300 like a year and a half from now
>>110219931PayPal Goods & Services include buyer protection.This is the required payment method in some of the more trustworthy PC hardware trading communities.You can offset the purchase cost by reselling your 9600X.I’ve sold over $700 worth of used PC parts this month.
>>110219931You should also ask which board the CPU is installed in, or share HWInfo summary.There is a risk of buying a degraded CPU with no warranty coverage.
>>110218856>>110219630Intel costs 100 Euros more Is it really better than the AMD one?I dont know much about pc parts so if you really suggest it than im just gonna save up and buy the Intel 14600K if it lasts longer and is better its just that i have a tight budgetI wouldnt mind spending more money if its neceseray though but im not gonna uopgrade next month like i planned then i might have to wait another week then
>>110220333See for yourself.They tested the 14600K with a DDR5 RAM, but it’s only a 6000MT/s kit.Intel CPUs scale better with faster memory speeds (preferably 6800 or faster if the CPU IMC can handle it).https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i5-14600k/17.html
>>110220369but i only have DDR4 Ram
>>110220383My point is the performance difference wouldn’t be that big going from 6000MT/s DDR5 to a 3200 or 3600 DDR4.I’d say running Intel CPUs on 6000 DDR5 is some prebuilt PC tier garbage setup.
>>110220383https://youtu.be/omumzW1AtGE
>>110220435Okay so im saving up for an 14600K and a Z690M DS3H DDR4 That should cost around 400 Euros together 160 for the main board is a bit expensive to me but its the best i could findI dont have that much money right now so im gonna save up a bit and get it in 2 months or soI also need a new case and a psu my old one only has 450W
>>110220616Check for decent holiday discounts for all your options. Gl.
>>110218682You chose the worst time ever to upgrade a PC.Why not earlier? The current market situation didn't appear overnight.You had plenty of time to realize that it would only get even worse for quite a while.I don't understand people like you. What were you thinking?
>>110220673>Why not earlier?I didnt really care that much about gaming back then and didnt know anything about computersI got mine from my parents 12 yearsa go and never upgraded it and now i that im older and have a job i got moew into gaming and pcsI also finished trade school and learnt some stuff about how a computer works and how to build one but not muchIt was mainly just what a cp/gpu motherboard is what they do in very basic terms and stuff like that but building a gaming pc didnt look that hard to me so i got interested in building or atleast upgrading mine
>>110220673Some are too busy with life responsibilities to keep up with hardware news.Some are lazy and spend most of their time escaping from reality until it catches up to them.Some get too complacent with their existing PCs and decide to set aside checking out deals on upgradeable components etc.A lot of people are ignorant on personal finance and investing to keep up with industry news, or believe in conspiracy theories to miss out on the most profitable stock market bull run in human history.
Man I love AMD they either work forever or crash/bootloop nonstop within the first hour there's no inbetween.
>>110220724just like nvidia or intel then? pc parts either work or they don't
>>110220724If you recently bought a new DDR5 kit, there are some with dual rank 8Gbit ICs potentially causing compatibility issues.Gigabyte memory QVL tends to share more details about the chip manufacturers
>>110220890Intel and Nvidia hide their instability a lot better. They crash the program and word their errors as if it's the application fault. AMD on the other hand doesn't crash out the program the whole PC just crashes and acts funny from disconnecting USBs to audio sounding like it's robotic and stuttery.
Dudes you're not going to believe this Corsair just released Nautilus II
>>110220673I'm this guy >>110217145 and I'll tell you, I held off because upgrading has been unnecessary. My setup is fine for my purposes and has been since I built it in 2019. The problem is that parts age and I assumed there would be some relief as manufacturers shifted into new generations of tech. The problem is that I assumed we'd see a new generation of consumer tech and these dickhead corpos have completely shifted away from normal computer components.I usually wait three GPU generations to upgrade, but I don't think we'll see a replacement for what we have any time soon. I've resigned myself to snatching up a 9070 XT because it's almost twice as good as my 3070 and will likely be good for 1080p gaming and video editing for the next seven years.I figured we'd be at AM6 and PCIe 6.0 by next year and now I get to reap the consequences of being a late adopter for the first time since I got fucked by buying a 570 back in 2010. I did it to myself because my PC hasn't been a priority until recently when it became clear that I could be in serious shit for my video editing if a single component failed on me right now.
>>110221393>waitfag thinks he'll be rewardedcute
>>110221311Looks like they got new fans and a better coldplate (Epyc and Xeon compatible).Idk about their older pump to comment about it.
>>110221451The Xeon/Epyc compatibility is probably someone at marketing fucking up the product specs.
>>110220923Funny thing about those dual rank 8gbit ddr5 kits is that they work fine on lga1700 but noboots on lga1851
Woot is offering the Amazon Basics branded (AOC OEM) 1080p 165Hz IPS gaming monitor for sale ($69.99).Budget builders in the US won’t find a better deal.https://sellout.woot.com/offers/amazon-basics-24-gaming-monitor-17You can find a Dell 24” 1080p 240Hz IPS for $99.99 on Amazon US.
>finally fomo'd into a 9070xt>fucking $800 for a $600 card>feel like a rape victim>check the outlook for 2027>total ram supply death>total gpu supply death>amd and nvidia colluding to drive prices even higher>re-releasing 8gb gpus for 2x the price>samsung and hynix saying they expect production ramp up by 2032Yeah, i made the right call. See you in 5 years wait bros. You are going to feel the burn even more than me lol
I like the Terra Jade case for aesthetic reasons. Am I a dumbass if I consign myself to Mini ITX motherboards so I can use this case?
>>110216303I sold mine for 6000 EUR (bought it for 3100 EUR last year), which is pretty sad. I probably won't get my hands on anything more powerful in my lifetime, considering how things are going.
>>110217236>Maybe the next miniled will be better.You're obviously insane>I waited and waited for RGB Stripe only for it to have poor uniformity, green tint shift, panel lottery and low brightness and more reflections than mirrorsthat's because it's a woled nerfed back to first gen qdoled>I am buying this one.you also have the gigabyte which uses the same panel if it's cheaper mo32u24small monitors are kinda boring and dimmer than tvs, unless you are playing esports or doing productivity, tv wins, and allegedly they are less eye-rapey than previous gens atleast on woled, qdoled tvs always was better, allegedly>>110217599actually might go to the designated apple cuck spot in retail store to check out this display it sounds insane, for 4k it better beyou could buy a 83" tandem woled for those bucks
>>110221848Not if you know how to work around the space limitations.Do thorough assembly research and identify pain pointsTune the processors to run more power efficiently.You should build what you want within your budget.
>>110221828>Day1 RTX 6090 Prebuilt on klarna 36 months>It will appreciate in time earning me moneyHAHA
HWiNFO64 v8.55-6110:Updated memory chip mapping for AMD Radeon PRO W7900.Add power limit sticky flags workaround for Arrow Lake-S.Added several new ARM architectures.Fixed chipset detection when AMD B650 chipset is used on expansion card.Added Panter Lake-H 080.Added reporting of ASIC Quality for newer NVIDIA GPUs.Extended NVIDIA power rail descriptions.Updated reporting of ASIC serial number on NVIDIA GPUs.Added reporting of ASIC ECID and IDDQ for NVIDIA GPUs.Enhanced sensor monitoring on ASUS ROG CROSSHAIR X870E GLACIAL and EDITION 20.Added support of MPS MP2995, MP29005, MP29005A and MP29025 VRM/PWM.Enhanced support of Nova Lake-E and Razor Lake-H/HX/S.Added reporting of VBIOS project information and GOP version for NVIDIA GPUs.Fixed automatic update of ARM64 version.Fixed reporting of tREFmax in AMD ULL.Updated Intel XMP 3.0 support.Updated Intel PresentMon.Added MAC/PHY temperature monitoring for several Aquantia/Marvell NIC adapters.Enhanced support of NVIDIA Spark.Added AMD Radeon RX 7500.Added reporting board number and ID for NVIDIA GPUs.Added reporting of GPU Hot Spot temperature for AMD Polaris.Added monitoring of AMD B650 chipset temperature on expansion card.Added monitoring of Sapphire PhantomLink temperature and status.
>>110221444As opposed to what, retard? Be one of the mouthbreathing cosoomers that buys every new component the moment it drops? Or being one of the perpetual denial engines amidst the luddite crowd that still swear the 8800 was the best GPU to ever exist? I've eaten my shit sandwich this time around. How was yours?
I'm just gonna bite the bullet and get all the parts. I might save some money driving +4 hrs to a Microcenter. But I hate this timeline.
>>110222009>As opposed to what, retard?Buying when shit was cheap bitch LOL. Keep waiting for the bubble to pop and sales to happen. lol, lmao.
>>110221911bold of you to assume anyone will be releasing new gpus within the next 4 years when they are making $35,000 reselling 5080 chips with 96gb HBM and cant keep up with demand. You are fucked wait fag.
>>110222060>>110222009I'm a waitfag for cheap shit and apparently I was retarded or a consoomer for it.They laughed because I bought a shitton of DDR5 in 2024 and lots of SSD storage in 2023.IDK why the people who actually buy things when cheap are considered the unreasonable ones nowadays. It surly hasn't hurt.Self-proclaimed waitfags who still don't have a DDR5 system are just pretenders and it's almost safe to diagnose as mentally unwell.
>>110221848I have one of these and building it made me hate my life so fucking much.Trying to find space for all the slack in the power cables (which are sized for an atx build) was horrendous, and you get to pay extra for the privilege... Pay special attention when selecting a cpu cooler, this is the critical part you must design your build around.The noise issue due to turbulence you see in reviews of this thing is FUCKING REAL. ONLY USE COOLERS WITH THE FAN UNDERNEATH THE HEATSINK, like the noctua NH-L12S. Noctua is nice because they provide list of motherboard compatibility.At these motherboard sizes your cpu cooler may collide with the chipset/VRM heatsink.Your cooler selection will in turn impact what motherboard, cpu (max wattage etc) and even RAM you can use (yes, special low profile ram is a thing in case you didnt know, i ended up using the G.Skill Flare X5 F5-6000)pic related, my bunny inspecting the case after it was unboxed
>>110222188that thing is either really small or your bnnuy really big
>>110221839gee Bill
>>110221828I never understood people saying "lol gl waitfags" Your GPU could drop out from orbit for whatever reason and then you will be in the same predicament as themMore people should be pissed off about the ship sinking in the first place instead of just being glad it won't happen to them
Is there an ultra budget 1080p build I can do for entry level ai/blender/gaming shit? Will I need 16gb vram?
>>110222596am4 pc + 3060 12gb I guessyou likely need 32gb ram too for ai and 3d productivity apps
>>110222617I thought ai just used vram?
>>110222623If you hold an llm fully in vram its way faster but I think they spill over to system ram if the model is large or context get big all the 16gb nvidia vram cards are not budget friendly tho
>>110222635How are the a770/b580? Also which am4 cpu is recommended?
>>110222652Only nvidia gpus are viable on AI appsYou can get 5800x3d which is a bit expensive, non-x3d cpus are pretty cheap but are worse for gaming. Blender prob benefits from high core count.
>>110222573Everyone is pissed but at the same time waitfags are fucking retarded.There was multiple years of good pricing, I considered myself a waitfag because I waited for good deals or found a good deal that gave me an excuse to upgrade, but waitfags FOR WHATEVER reason didn't think things where good enough. At what point are you waiting? Are you waiting for a $20 discount that will never materialize? Are you waiting for things to drop to 20% of their value? Intel was giving away shit for free, if you went AMD you didn't have to get an extreme motherboard for a 9800x3d, RAM was cheap, SSDs where pretty cheap. GPUs were "high" but there was *something* for every budget.I used to think waitfagging was just being reasonable but there was endless moments with others throwing pearls at people to get something cheap and waitfags just didn't take it and now everyone who didn't buy is crying about it.I just don't understand it man.
>>110222652As many cores as you can afford.
There 10 million RTX 6000 sitting in warehouses doing nothing right now.
>>110215732>nobody under 25 has a fucking TVYeah maybe because you're surrounded by other fucking losers who are still living at home. Anyone with their own place has a tv in the living room
>>110222756it's the exact opposite, retardlearn to read the fucking postwho the fuck still uses TVs? if I want to watch shit I'll watch it on my laptop, or pc monitors, or even ipad. Why would I want some stupid large screen that I can't move around and is useless for anything besides sitting around on a couch and watching slop?
>>110222754they contributed to spacex, nvidia, openai, anthropic, google, amazon, broadcom market cap tho
>>110222781Cope more you poor faggot, you either live in a studio shitbox apartment or you're lying. Having a living room without a tv in it is extremely ND to the point where I think you're just baiting
>>110222799millennials are so retarded
>>110222781Anyone who is remotely well adjusted and lives outside an apartment.TVs are so fucking cheap no one bats and eye at basically every room having one, whether it be for TV or vidya.Some people even use a TV because they use their PC on a couch
>>110222754There are people gaming on RDNA5 right now somewhere at Valve
>>110222781>who the fuck still uses TVs?people who don't want to watch shows and movies on their phone, which is a lot of people. TVs are cheaper than ever.
>>110222802You are most likely just an extremely strange person and you've normalised it entirely.Any well adjusted young person will have a study that their PC is in, and sometimes to relax they will go and stretch out on the lounge and watch some youtube, plex, streaming services. Maybe some games on a console. They'll also use the TV as a wind down option when with family or friends. You seem to think its normal to have nothing in your lounge room. If you do, it's just furniture of which you get off your PC and then crane your fuckign neck at a tablet, phone or (likely because you're a virgin) a steam deckYou're the weird one
>5080's are discontinued now tooi guess my pc has lost technology from the peak of human civilization, it's like gaming on relics from atlantis.and they're releasing 4gb gpus nowhow far back will hardware specs go? until they're no longer useful? i wonder if this is this how they plan to force people onto the cloud long-term. Just make all the consumer-grade hardware slower and worse until people have no choice but to sign up for GeForce Now and shit.
>>110222847ok boomer
>>110222860Phones are going back to 6-8gb.
>>110222866my s23+ should last another 10 years too i guess
Does AMD on DDR5 still suffer from long-ass boot times?I remember waiting forever on reboots when I had an AM4 + DDR4 system, and I tested 3 different CPUs (2200g, 2600, 3700x) and they all had significantly longer boot times than Intel CPUs.
you should install linux
>>110222465>343 x 153 x 218 mm
>>110222188If you're gonna get a mini ITX case, why not get something a little more practical?
>>110223504Already did. My windows folder got corrupted last week so I just bought a new drive and installed ubuntu on it. Only real problem I've had has been that apparently ubuntu can just randomly decide to stop allowing you to login properly and you basically have to fix your entire desktop environment. My guess is that it had something to do with uninstalling the default file manager.Still, better than the last time I tried to install linux. Ubuntu had to be booted in some weird safe mode option because otherwise it wouldn't recognize any password as valid. Mint just booted to a black screen after the install. Not even a "no signal" or just a little blinking dash in the corner, just pure black. Pop's package manager was broken on a fresh install and I just gave up on it. So far the best improvement has been in handbrake having a few QoL improvements and better VP9 encoding, so I save like half of the encode time now.
>>110223457Only during memory training which only happens when you change BIOS settings or update it. After the training it should be instant for future boots.
>>110223504usecase?
>>110222781>who the fuck still uses TVs?Nobody used TVs for gaming before OLEDNow as you know OLED saved large format gaming (remember nvidia BFG Displays?)HDR got introduced and TVs are better for it than displaysTVs are more immersiveTVs have better brightness and pqEveryone NOT RETARDED, have begun using TVs (oleds) as displays since LG OLED and continue to do so now because mentioned reasonsAll your displays are tiny and shit nobody wanna watch that shitYeah I haven't owned a TV in forever and saw no point in it either up until recently"TV" statement is irrelevant as it's just a larger display (with speakers), that's literally it>>110222799you can fit a 98" in a 1 room apt np, it's not like shit takes up space
poorfag neets who dont leave their rooms will unironically ask you who the fuck uses tv's
Stop spamming about tvskill yourself
>>110223823This
Whats a good cheap external hard drive right now
>>110222781>if I want to watch shit I'll watch it on my laptop, or pc monitors, or even ipad.insane poorfag cope
>>110223457Yes
I guess I should buy one of those 5090's, since everyone's getting them.
>>110224003good idea lots of savings are to be had
>>110224003At the current prices you might as well get an RTX 6000
>>110223692>Only during memory training which only happens when you change BIOS settings or update itRedpill me on this. DDR4 didn't have this IIRC>>110223996>YesIs it noticeable? Asking because DDR5 memory supply is fucked and I doubt it's possible to get good dies at a reasonable price.
>>110223990TVs are the cheapest thing there isYes, every normalfag has one.
>>110223823>one post entire day>spamming>referring to a singular poster (you are schizophrenic)yourselves* would be more accurate unless you are implying schizophrenia>>110223955that uh wd 5tb one is cheap for meymmv
>>110224062For their houses.
>>110224083the thing is slightly more powerful than a 3060 which is way older
>>110224064>you areso many TVschizos
God I wish I could stop taking my epilepsy meds
>>110223802>Nobody used TVs for gaming before OLEDPeople did, it just wasn't until OLED that people got over the idea that TVs where unusable with PCsAlot of is where noticing that with HDMI 2.0 many TVs started to have really low latency and 4:4:4 support.You could pick up a big ass TV for like $300, much cheaper than a monitor of the same capabilities. OLED being basically excusive to TVs really broke the outright propaganda people had about TVs versus monitors.
hear me out, what if I assemble me own memory sticks?I gots the gear for soldering them. can I find broken ones? or scavange them from broken laptops with soldered on memory? I developed the skills so I don't have to deal with this pricing nonsense.tips&tricks? anyone attempted it? mix&match part numbers? how many types of chips are there etc
>>110224391russian hardware enthusiasts did this so long ago when the crisis just started
>>110224505ram sticks should be easy to work on with hot air station, they are small and not much mass. and spaced out parts.just need to source the chips. are there blank pcbs? or maybe recycle broken ones. but where the fuck do I source the broken ones from?
>RTX 3060 12GB>Ryzen 5 3600>2 x 8gb ddr4 ramWill i survive the shortages bros?
>>110224583peak gaming rig, you good bro. don't fall for consumerism memes
>day 2 of owning an oled>still shitting myself over how good everything looks>even games I forgot I had installed
>>110224589I NEED to try subnautica now
>>110223955> good cheapgood or cheap?
>>110224583yeah that'll last you another three years easily
>>110223955I use a 4TB Lexar NM790 M.2 SSD in picrel enclosure.I got the SSD for €260 in early '25 and the enclosure for €50.With USB4 I usually achieve write rates of 1.3 GB/s.
>>110224589what panel
>>110224589game for transexuals unironically
>>110224672these new genders are getting ridiculous
>>110224666MO27Q28GR>>110224667yeah but its fun
uhh... holy shit guys. I just connected my oled to my macbook and opened up vscode. it's bad. like really bad. I think I can get used to it but.... that's depressing.
>>110224721why is it bad
>>110224764The text fringing caused by the unconventional subpixel layout.>>110224721I warned you. You might get used to it.Don’t throw the product box away in case you need to return it.There’s an Alienware 1440p ultrawide QDOLED with stripe RGB subpixels (280Hz model).
>>110224806>$800 monitor>worse panel>ultrawide garbage>but no text fringingyeah thanks
>>110224806rgb stripe oled isn't ready next gen will be better if you buy now you're better off with a tandem oled for quality
>>110224806>>110224721mac is greyscale. there is no fringing with greyscale because there is no color. rgb causes fringing because its showing color.
>>110224721Warned you a thousand times nigga 1440p oled is a meme, 4k is the only option if you do literally anything other than play games 24/7
>>110224806macOS makes 4K look trash crazy to use oled 1440p with it
>>110224583I've got great news, the walking in a city simulator was really just a tech demo.
>>110224583i have a very similar rig but i was fortunate enough to get 2x16gb ram before things really went to shitwish i had a better cpu than the r5 3600 though
its disappointing how apple makes good looking monitors, but locks them at 60hz and charges $800
>>110225353>800$3000*
Women are stupid. Do those bitches have any idea what it means to own 64gb of ddr4?
>>110225366>owning ramStop doing this.
>>110225424>Stinky jew says delusional thingWater is wet
>motherboard came with a realtek RZ616 wifi card >it has been giving me issues since the first few months after building this pc>20-70 mbps download speeds and likes disconnecting randomly>replaced it with an intel AX210 that i ordered yesterday>download speeds shot up to stable 200mbps and >random disconnects completely stoppedWHAT THE FUCK
>>110220673I had and still have no moneykys
>>11022033314th gen is a lot better than Ryzen 5000They also run ddr4 fine though challenge nowadays would be finding a decent in stock ddr4 lga1700 motherboard. Some b760s are fine but other may struggle to keep an i5/i7 running without theottling
>>110224689you better never check the 5% greyscale
Can I cool my 5950x any more even though I've already got a 280rad? I'm stuck in a Lian li o11 dynamic air mini
Budget 2000-3000€Country ItalyGive me a minmaxed PC for vidya and 3d sculpting, onegai.
>>110225895It'll be am5 x3d cpu, 32gb ddr5 and 5070 type systemintel or am4 make no sense, more ram is prohibitively expensive, high vram nvidia gpus are too expensive and 5070 gets the job done
Damn man, all these beautiful fish tank cases feature a huge 5080/5090 in white while my broke ass settled with an ugly ass black 4070. You can't really chase aesthetics being poor ig.
>>110222847>he thinks people can (or even want to) afford a flat big enough that you have a "lounge room" where you basically do nothing except watch tv and talk with gueststhat's why people are in debt and doctors earning 6 figures live paycheck to paycheck. The amount of terrible financial life choices it takes
>>110222695>T. Jensen
Let's just make up new random taxes to tax goycattle that make no sense
>>110226308putain de merde and shit
>>110224371>People didNiggers have no perception of nuance holy shit fucking tired of niggers with autism taking everything literal In absolutist termsSlow laggy smeary nigger VA tvsFuck
getting tired of the g502 and its dogshit software, what are my options for these needs?>similar number of buttons and shape>around $100 tops>some basic macros, a double click, a click spammer while held, and a hold for half second, release, repeat while held>fucking fairy wonder wish but onboard memory to store these macros so software is not needed constantly>wired>lighting optional, if it has rgb im just tuning it down the the lowest brightness red anyway
Holy fuck what is going on? I thought things got cheaper on black friday???
Where am I supposed to apply air duster if it's too cold to do it outside and I don't want to make my house dirty? I don't have a workbench in my garage sadly.
>>110227275>raise price before black friday>discount it to pre price raise level heh nothing personal
>>110227284Open a window and instead of blowing all the dust you wipe it off with a damp paper towel.
>tfw no CPU discounts during black weeks >CPUs already up $50 in all categories Woried
>>1102273239800X3D is $60 off at Newegg, $80 at Microcenter, Best Buy price matches
Better than Microcenter
I know I shouldn't overthink this but which thermal paste should I go for? MX-7 or Noctua NT-H2. The latter is a bit more expensive.
>>110227377MX-7
>>110227381Thermal Grizzly was also an option. Anyway thanks. Anything I should know?
>>110227392When you spread it, the air will smell like skittles and your pets may want to eat it.
>>110227345I'm a europłot
>>110227443What stores does euro even have idk what they are
>PowerColor Red Devil OC Radeon RX 9070 XT €1049.90>PowerColor Reaper Radeon RX 9070 XT €1059.90
>>110227377Igorslab keeps a really good, if not the best list and research. So the best paste is always changing. Just use that to guide you.
>>110227284Wear layers and clean the PC outside.I can't believe we need to teach these things to adults.
>>110214884The pre-built master race. Its currently the only way to avoid ram inflation. Somehow. Im unsure how that works.These ibuypower PCs are equipped with 32 gb DDR5 ram usually.. I need a better short table for mine instead of the shitty cardboard though..
I moved the creeper back because he was standing over top the radiator.
Is buying used LGA 1700 boards risky? My gut instinct tells me that these used Z690 or Z790 boards are the modern day 990FX Sabertooths; inevitable failures from 14700K/14900KYS's cooking them.
>>110227484Hey I've got a creeper in my case too
Since PC building is dead why are you all not working on gettiing your old machines upgraded and in mint condition rn so you have spare PCs?
>>110227479It's cold and wet.
>>110227484>gay leds>fish tank pc>GPU with no life expectancy stuffed in a ATX>high wattage spaceheater abomination>liquid cooling insanityngmi
>>110227507The degradation risk is in the CPU, the motherboard's BIOS with the mitigation microcode doesn't allow the CPU from requesting dangerously high voltages.The updated board BIOS also defaults to "Intel Default" settings that sets saner maximum power draw compared to the 4096W unlimited power draw profiles.Try to buy one from someone who kept the product box, with pristine socket pin condition + original socket cover included.People who had the original intent to resell the board probably took better care of it.
>>110222695What waitfags were always saying was, don't be a brainwashed consumer. People are not going trip over themselves to tell you when to buy. Good deals means marketwatching in general. 90 % of gam3rs making posts like "should I upgrade" are sitting on a 4070 FOMO'ing, because they have no impulse control drooling at the latest gam3rnexus video.The other case where you are actually in need, like actually poor or want to enter the gaming or homelab space from nothing. That's a lot different. In which case you should be doing your homework and not get a overpriced RGB gam3rstation 3000 brand new.
>>110227534Clean the PC some other day then, when it isn't rainy or wet.I am not your mother, figure this shit out.
>>110227507You mean 14900KF. Mine hasnt broke yet. Its about 2 years old. Ut jist has the cheapshit Msi motherboard that ibuypower puts into many of thier prebuilts.. I just posted the pic of the creeper PC.. The other day I saw some weird rainbow colors flicking on the display.. I said oh shit and updated the gpu driver. I bios updates were supposed to solve the degradation issues on those CPUs.
>>110227507>>110227546All high wattage/high heat AMD and Intel spaceheater builds are pure garbage as are 50 series GPUs and anything that needs a 1000 watt PSU. See you all in two years with your inevitable part failures and tears. If you do an intel 1700 build put an i5 or a T in it based on what is low watt. It will last 20 years and stay under 30 degress if you do it right. So far all 5ghz+ CPUs are as cursed as 50 series cards
>>110227545I thought this case was sorta ugly in the pictures. I ordered one anyway. Its actually really beautiful in person. Its design is meant to show off the expensive af gpu. I do enjoy being able to view it. Thats a Y70 case.. its heavily discounted when bought in a pre-built.. the cooling performance on the i9 14900 KF with the 360mm rad in that case is phenomenal. Its runs nice and cool.. its probably the nicest case I've ever owned. Its also the first aio I've ever had. It quiet. It pulls less dust into the case. This PC has made me into an aio convert.
>>110221848Well if it's all just aesthetics then I guess it's all up what you are willing to pay for taste. You are paying more for less functionality and smaller form.I will say though that, I do regret not leaning into more niche/extreme parts building computers up over the years. Because what I now realize that as I get interested in homelabbing and other tangential stuff, all those weird parts could have been repurposed later. For example ITX board is great for a suitcase PC. Laptops for home assistant smart solution for home or car etc. EATX or production parts for LLM or other more heavy production stuff. etc ec.Finally as much as niche parts cost more, the depreciation is also less.
>>110227580Glass is the dumbest material on earth to make a PC case from aside from chocolate. You will figure it out.
>>110227507Buildzoid recently bought a 14900KS for benchmarking purposes, and plans to set a 1.45V core voltage limit.That's all you have to do.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUI3zEFiN9c
>>110227476Thanks I'll check that out. Apparently the MX7 is difficult to apply.
>>110227568You are a deranged bitch who doesn't know how to set saner & more power efficient CPU settings.
>>110227190razer basilisk is pretty much the same line of mouse but different branduse AI to write autohotkey scriptsI wanted one of my macros to be activated on keyboard press but you have to buy a razer keyboard for that so autohotkey it is
>>110221848>Am I a dumbass if I consign myself to Mini ITX motherboardsYes. No debate. PCIe slots matter. RAM slots matter. NVME slots matter
>>110227580I'm happy for you. Your happiness is all that matters.
>>110227601ENJOY YOUR PARTS FAILURE. yoU GOT SCAMMED BY YOUTUBE 'MARKETING' SAnd now you are stuck with an unstable shitbox
>>110227545
>>110227592That's a pretty based score-chasing buildPretty dumb chip for a daily PC though
>>110227507Midrange and better lga1700 boards are very overbuiltThe best of them can run a 14900KS without any vrms heatsink required
>>110227484slapping that ugly ibuypower logo on a hyte y70 should be a crime
>>110227545>hating AIOs>hating modern GPUsyou're the one that's not gonna make it
>>110227568>you vill run ze low wattage CPU and you vill be happybluepilled and Klaus Schwab approved post
>>110227637I mean all Id need to do is fill it in with black sharpie.
soon it'll be above the 2060 LETSGOOOOO
>>110227623>unstable shitboxI know what the fuck I'm doing with my PC. Enjoy your stock-settings.
>>110227624I gave aay a 5090, a 5080 and have a 5060ti 16GB lying ina drawer because I don;t like what I saw on my flir. Same for my 14th gen i7. The difference between you and I is I did not have to pay for that garbage so don;t treasure it but see it for what it is. Badly made thrash for idiots. Shit that sucks watss and spits out heat like that does not belong in an ATX case and never did. I like cool, effecient, clean machines that can run on 500 watts. If you want heat turn on a radiator not a PC.
>>110227663You could have run the 5090 at 300w and 5080 at 180w with mvolt+ you fool
>>110227663Sure you did.Let me guess, 9070XT?
>>110227663>'I am a fat & lazy American who's unwilling to learn how to fine tune my enthusiast-grade PC processors!'
>>110227583 #Bare in mind this is the Y70 case. Its quite large even though its described as a mid tower. It cools like a full tower. The Y60 is an smaller similar case to this which is also mid tower. Im my experience larger cases cool better. The Y70 is no exception. Maybe ill show you some idling temps..later in the thread.I was very thrilled when I first turned this on anlooked at the idle temps.>>110227523 #Noice. I have some small creeper toys also. And steve.. that lego creeper belongs to my kid but he looks standing ontop the PC.
>>110227653whatever kiddo. Back to youtube u go for validation and some nonsense about how you can nearly see the reflection of the shadow0 on the anus hair in some lgbt walking simulator dlc..while your PC belts out heats and ticks down to failure at 10x the rate mine does.By the way I have a vastly more powerful system than you simply because I have 4xV100 32GB in an 4 way NVLINK board and two A100 40GB alongside a m1000e fuclly loaded blade server and fibre san. All of it will run cooler and outlast your toy. It's not a competition, you are not in my league to start with. Putting high wattage high heat parts in an ATX case is fucking dumb.
>>110227699Get help.If you knew how to use all those parts, you'd understand these CPUs & GPUs aren't constantly running at maximum power draw (especially when gaming).
>>110227699That's a highly specific fantasy GaylordNone of the hardware you listed can output a higher framerate than an rtx4070 in ue5 games either
>>110227681No, I has a box of 3060 12GB and have standardised on them for client machines. Sad but true nvidia had not made good well designed hardware in a long time now. I would rather the 5060ti 16GB actually delivered because it should eb low power low temp but the flir on it is too hot hor my taste (different issue to 5080/90s but basically bad trace designs for power that look like shit under flir).
>>110227608The razer basilisk is our current gaming mouse. We have two. Its really great for ark raiders. We use the extra side middle clicks for shoulder swap and the gear quick menu.. its very handy.The last mouse I had thay could do all that was the logi G502.. the basilisk is jist a better sorta updated better ergonomic version of that. Its clear they were inspired by the g502 when making the basilisk.
>>110227726Any cheap Nvidia 5070ti/5080 GPU with the reference Nvidia pcb has crazy hot traces Nvidia has a history of half-assing their board designs
>>110227711I already knew you were a retared kid with a head full of screaming idioots on gaytube thanks. >>110227707I run my systems and use them for large database dump analysis. You'd need hearing protection behind the blade chassis when I am working
Put a tank in your tank.
>>110227726You just had set a 900~925mV voltage limit and apply a slight GPU core OC to retain stock performance @ lower power draw.This is all you had to do:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPpW9yXHvOUImagine getting filtered by a few Afterburner sliders.
>>110227741It is what it is man, nvidia just did not give a fuck.
>>110227742Your work environment is shit, no wonder you're brain damaged.Enjoy your onset dementia.
>>110227747Sorry due you are too stupid for me. Go buy yourself a server that takes at minim four volta GPUs and a few xeons and stop wasting your fucking money on crap and recently badly made crap at that.
>>110227741>Nvidia has a history of half-assing their board designsAnd how many RTX 30, 40, & 50 series card end up getting bricked by these so called hot traces?Always with the histrionics.
>>110227770I'm not the idiot who's working right next to that server, if you actually use them to begin with.Get your head checked. You are not doing well. It's a bigger problem if you're hallucinating all this shit.
>>110227764I am in the top of my home, it lives in a basement, like you. BTW even the i5-144 64GB slow DDR5 and a 3060 12GB does pretty much everything I need aside from heavy large file processing and GPU intensive big data analysis so I have no fucking idea which gay walking simulator you thought was worth making that designed toi fail abomination for. We are not the same
>>110227794>We are not the sameThis isn't the insult you think it is. It's a good thing there's only one freak like you.No one buys your schizo bullshit.
>>11022777930 none. 40 has issues depending 50 is cancer and was just nvidia on full idgaf
>>110227811Crying like this won't change the reality that you couldn't afford any decent RTX GPU.
>>110227779Every Nvidia generation from the gtx500 to rtx5000 has had some gotcha, with the 2080ti as the exception>How manyHow the fuck should I know? And the amount of cases was never the claim in the first place. Like I said, they have a long history of bad reference PCBs if you have been paying attentionWhat did happen in recent history is rtx3080 and rtx3090s DYING from running certain software like Amazon New World andhigh powered rtx4000-5000s melting the fuck out of their connectors under load.
>>110227800If you think using a decade old m1000e or four way nvlink boards is skitzo bullshit boy are you at newb level. DYOR or pay me. Design and build systems for value reliability and effecciency not because some praciung faggots rants about shadows in gay walking msimulators on yoo tube and tells you to build a fairy light fish tank spaceheater designed to fail with shit like 50 series cards in it and CPUs/GPUs you have to be thankful are noit showing degretation or fire risks.
>>110227836truthpillconsumer stuff is often not very good and not much in the last five years is well made.
>>110227836>bad reference PCBsExcept ancient GTX cards wtih reference PCBs are still working @ advertised specs & sold in used markets.>rtx3080 and rtx3090s DYING from running certain software like Amazon New WorldThis is a GPU design issue, not a board & VRM component issue, which was rectified with the 3090 Ti & future RTX series releases.>andhigh powered rtx4000-5000s melting the fuck out of their connectors under load.This problem is addressed by fixing the cable connection or replacing the cables.Don't buy high power draw cards if you find them to be too risky. No one's forcing you to buy a 4090 or 5090.
Heres my idle temps of the ibuypower PC with the Lego creeper standing ontop. Its cool as a cucumber.. it probably helps we're avoiding turning the heat this winter. Our house is cold af. Ambient is probably close to 60°f/15.5°Y70i914900K (not KF whoops)4070 super tiAnd who really cares about the temp of anything else in there? Not me.I had to make an image collage as I couldnt get HWmonitor to open up multiple instances at one.
>>110227852>Design and build systems for value reliability and effecciencyNo one is using 12nm Volta cards (2017 release) in 2026 if they value power efficiency.You can quit larping, don't pretend you're doing something meaningful with your stitched up AI server.
>>110227817Even my cheapest 4x 32GB V100 board is bettrer than a 5090 in every way I care about my 2x a100 40GBs thrashes it. 5090 is a fucking toy and a badly made one.
>>110227882You don't own them until you prove you otherwise.Until then, you're a schizophrenic nigger.
>>110227872>ancient GTX cards wtih reference PCBs are still workingSurvivorship bias. That obviously happens because all the dead gtx980s with blown memory controllers have zero resale valueAlways so quick to defend Nvidia sm h
>>110227881You really need to believe people like me don't exist. Sad. Ok whataver. Fucking normies.
>>110227891>Survivorship bias.It's a lot of surviving hardware. You can continue to freak out the few exceptions like the minority you are.>>110227892I genuinely hope freak like you don't exist. get help.
>>110227888>does not realise how easy this is to do because he can't think outside an gay fairy light fishtank spaceheater ATX case for lgbt dlc walkng simulatoir fps measurement.Save the thread and get into real computing for fuck sake before you miss out on that too.
>>110227917It's not about the ease of setup, it's about the actual proof of ownership.You don't own them until you prove you otherwise.Until then, you're a schizophrenic nigger.
I'm in a predicament, do I sell my 5090 for 10 grand and bank like 7k in profit and just play games on piss 5 and switch 2 or keep my 5090 and bypass the profit opportunity.
>>110227927Sell for 10 grand and buy a 9070xt for $800 to replace it and carry on PC gaming
>>110227927Be prepared to accept that you may not own a better video card for the next 5~10 years.
>>110227891I have a dual boot XP 7 machine with a 4GB 970 in it. It;s fine. I also have a 1080ti 11GB in a 4970K that is fine and I even have a 750ti in a XP/loonix case that is fine. I do find repasting and cleaning relaxing though
>>110227923>seethingwhatever.
>>110227927You should sell the 5090.There's nothing wrong with the GPU, it's a great card, and I wish I would have bought one.But, it's just a GPU. There's other cards you can buy for a fraction of the price that will do a good-enough job of playing video games. There's not some life changing difference between a 3080Ti and a 5090.However, 7K can do a lot, and you're never going to see a return on investment like that again in your life. If you put $7K into a saving account that gained 6% a year, by the time you retire it would be like $300K. You won't realistically get an opportunity again in life to randomly get $7K that you can do whatever the fuck you want with, at no cost to yourself.
>>110227927sell it and buy two a100s and a setup and a 5060 12GB and laugh at the insanity and do on holiday with the change
>>110227949You were the one who's been seething about "muh +5GHz boosting, high power draw processors" for the past hour.You're a mentally ill, lying nigger.
>>110227966>5060 16GB//typo fixed.
>>110227927Why would you but a 5090 anyway? Thats way too much gpu for gamers.
>>110227969>muh cpu is nearing 200 watts (you)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aVpiGzsCBI
>>110227990>'You need to respect me online because I'm pretending to own Volta and Ampere server cards'
>>110228009Everyone fucking has them except you it seems. Serves you tight for wasting your time in lgbt walking simulators.
>>110227937Oh I will I will be adding 2 more A100s as they are about to hit surplus. I donl;t have a use for more than four though.
Will the price of 3090s stay inflated over time?
>>110228036Use the imaginary proceeds on your mental health therapy.It's always the mentally ill people who are obsessed with RTX cards and "saving the thread".
>>110228009>server cards'You mean nvlinked SXM2/3/4 by that do you? Because that is what I am talking aboutYou do realise you missed out again or is it just hitting you hard rn. Why the fuck do you even think this stuff is unobatium it's not even state of the art. Are you in Russia or something?
>>110228047Wccftech just said that the planned 5080 24gbs are cancelled again which if true, may let the 3090 stay inflated for quite a while more
>>110227874Use HWInfo
>>110228108I think the 5080 super was never real. If it was then it would have been leaked through drivers already. AMD drivers already have rdna5 & steam deck 2 hw flags.
>>110228159I feel like every "Leak" about the 50-series has been complete bullshit.
The supers did exist but they were planned to be released before memory went crazy so nvidia canned them
>>110228159Nvidia drivers never leak new GPUs since nobody not even AIBs have working drivers until launch dayThe only indicator of upcoming Nvidia GPUs is fromphotos of physical PCBs of which there are none for the 5080 24gb
>>110228224There should be vbios entries like edid entries leak monitors otherwise how does the driver know what the fuck it's talking to
>>110227927Sell it next year, it'll be worth 20k.Next year is going to be so fucking bad as people realize the AI bubble didn't pop and everyone fomos into system upgrades and more long term memory deals are made with companies.New Zen will launch too making a lot of people upgrade.It's going to be so fucking bad with hardware prices that if you have a 5090 or any card you want to sell, hold onto it.
>>110228323AIBs don't have easy access to NVIDIA's pre-launch vBIOS, they need to go through NVIDIA's staging servers that track access history.It's not at the stage to be sharing vBIOS access when board partners don't even have the reference designs for this SKU.
>>110227592What if I set a 1.39V voltage limit?
>>110228360You might as well buy a 14700K if you don't need/want the 14900K to hit the advertised maximum boost clocks.
>>110227558I saw a Z690 used with a 14700KF and the box label has an RMA sticker on it. I see a lot of broken Z690/Z790 boards second hand, so.
>>110228376That's my idea. I have a bunch that I can get the 14700K to get similar performance to stock while getting sub-200w power draw under full load by tuning it.
>>110223457My last bios startup took 18 seconds. I don't feel any problems with it.In addition, no one forbids you not to turn off your PC, but to put it into sleep mode.
>>110228329>as people realize the AI bubble didn't popkek it has popped and way down we go you either know or you don't Nasdaq is down 6% on the month companies like google and intel are dropping 10-25% and Nvidia is struggling to stay above 200. This is not a sector in a boom, it's a sector that is stuggling and the smart money is leaving before the lid blows off the shit business models, bullshit circular financing and fraud.
>>110228687>>110228687>>110228687new
>>110228630Yeah sure it is, AI is going to disappear just like internet disappeared after Dotcom blew up.If these big guys do go out of business, the hardware shortages are going to be 100x worse after every single company out there starts building their own clusters over using a datacenter.
>>110228378It's probably tards mishandling them. Lga1700 pins are very tiny and easy to bend or break compared to earlier sockets
>>110227608>>110227731isnt razer software hot garbage though?
>>110229853yes that's why you use autohotkey and never touch the razer software after turning off the led
