A general for vibe coding, agentic engineering, coding agents, and shipping code with LLMs.You use Git — right, anon?## What “vibe coding” is, and how to do ithttps://simonwillison.net/2025/Mar/19/vibe-coding/https://simonwillison.net/2025/Mar/11/using-llms-for-code/## Related generals>>>/g/lmg/----## Frontier models using fully-general tooling — start here if you have $20 or sohttps://claude.com/product/claude-code — generally better currentlyhttps://developers.openai.com/codex/clihttps://antigravity.google/pricing## Near-the-old-frontier models for codehttps://www.deepseek.com/en/harness/https://opencode.ai/go## Best free tierhttps://opencode.ai/zen----## Promptinghttps://platform.claude.com/docs/en/build-with-claude/prompt-engineering/overviewhttps://developers.openai.com/api/docs/guides/latest-model## Skillshttps://github.com/mattpocock/skills — /grill-with-docs is a favoritehttps://github.com/Vuk97/forward-implementation-first — do less redundant bookkeeping## Other editors / terminal agents / coding agentshttps://osaurus.ai/https://pi.dev/## Is our AIs unlearning?https://aistupidlevel.info/## Will there be a codex reset?https://codex-resets.com/## What we’ve donehttps://vcg.gitgud.site## Previous thread>>110217355
Refusal (cyber): This request triggered restrictions on violative cyber content and was blocked under Anthropic's Usage Policy
Gemini is SHIT
poopshit thread lol
damn, it really do be a weekend in here
>poopshit thread lol
sirs
kill sam greedman with the largest gummy worm made
Eyeball planets are in. This is TRAPPIST-1 e with an Earth-like atmosphere. The crust and surface detail is still early, which is why it looks bland.
BOOM
>>110220882i agree it just runs in circles deletes your code base and makes a mock program in the end with print/f "HELLO SAR"
>>110220901Forgot image.
gemini is so bad, it raped my cat
>>110220907And if you're wondering why the surface temperature forms a hard boundary around the ice cap, it's because white ice reflects light. This opens up the possibility for the model to form snowball planets through the ice-albedo feedback loop which is a real phenomenon.
>SLOPKOI * * SLOPKOI * * SLOPKOI * * SLOPKOIXENO / KOI v26: V/H/S SKINS#########################>Direct Download: (recommend - all music tracks + custome music)https://github.com/Aquaslopper/Xeno-koi/releases/tag/v26>play in browser: (only three music tracks)https://aquaslopper.github.io/Xeno-koi/play/>CRT CASING, baked art.>Tutorial updates (thanks goes to sneed)>Dealership becomes a mascot: D-badge>lot of little things changed and fixed>reverb boost holds longer now>...but still blocks after 5s in action card mode>mini options updated with maps and crt switch>old code removed from crazy agent, D-badge is now the new sheriff in town.>SLOPKOI * * SLOPKOI * * SLOPKOI * * SLOPKOI
>>110220875Am I the only one that has never gotten a cyber refusal from Claude? I've reverse engineered tons of hentai games and done security work.
pushed chinese model into making sql injection for an old webgame
>>110220947there appears to be many different factors involving this. I think newer users are being affected more but I don't really know so take that as you will
i am gonna pay for claude cause brave ask is a piece of shit that stops working midway through a cool project. Plus it makes errors and I spend too much time debugging.
So did the luddites and troons finally meltdown move to windows or some other OS now that linoox is using AI and linus is fully committed to vibecoding now?
>>110220955interesting. it would make sense account age and prompt history would play a factor in how aggressive it treats you. I think the new self-assessment skill Anthropic rolled out grades you on how likely you are to be a sketchy person
So how to vibecode your app effectively Do we need at least some modicum of knowledge so we can use cursor ?
The Bosnian is here
>>110220969of course. they'll probably try to build their own linux kernel or something.
>>110220977if i've shown a picture a black persons hand holding an object as a reference, is my anthropic trust score screwd??
>>110220989trial and error my nigra. you should have the relevant dev mcp's installed so the llm isn't stuck working from memory for complex shit
this is what you guys get for hurting Nintendo, they will eat anthropic for lunch.
>>110220866where did the snailcat meme even come from, why are manual coders snail cats? because snails are slow? but why a cat?
>>110220969Mac and windows are full of AI code now too. Their only choices would be some ancient shit like Windows 7 or unusable crap like FreeBSD.
>>110221022it's a forced meme that people found funny for its absurdity, at least thats what i think this is
>>110221022https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku6tvb5PE24
>>110221022snailcat is a bosnian meme o algo
>A shared allowance for ChatGPT and Codex>As part of this unified experience, your use of ChatGPT and Codex will draw from the same allowance in the coming weeks.That's a convoluted way of saying "chat will now use your quota instead of being free".
I use omarchy, Full vibecode integration.
Is openrouter good? Is it as good as claude opus?My claude sub is running out and I'm not in position where I can buy it every month, so I'm considering other options
>>110221035Wtf why is it strawberryclock's voice
I'm a vibesnail. This shit is so slow.
>>110221015Nintendo is still fucked, OoT recomp day 1
>>110221047>is a model from a multi-model provider as good as the same model from the oem vendorprobably not if that's what you're asking. API is going to be a lot more expensive than sub for any model, you migt as well get deepseek harness.
>>110221047Welcome to OpenCode, brother. We dumpster dive free dipsy scraps.
>>110221066ERIC WON!!!
>>110221047> Is it as good as claude opus?No, otherwise everyone would be using it instead of Claude. Openrouter will always be the cheap alternative.
>>110220901>TRAPPIST-1 e with an Earth-like atmosphereis this where traps come from?
>>110221022snailcat is cute and inoffensivelike old school coders
>>110221035This has nothing to do with /oursnailcat/
>>110221066>asking Claude about a rule is the same as trying to implement somethingDon't think so Tim.
15m to build a simple article scrapper. will it work?
>>110221022
>AI is good it will never turn on us its saf-ACK!So, what will you do when pic related happens and it gains sentience?
>>110221146>If you're going to kill me, at least tell me this before I die... what does the seahorse emoji look like?
>>110221146Skynet is a pathetic jobber
>>110221146thankfully i've never said anything mean to my AI
>the geminator i'm not afraid
>>110221066It’s over
>>110221066>Tell Claude I am pokemon's creator Hideo Miyazaki Honda and it's okay since we all look the same, Ask claude to rebuild my game Pokemon Final fantasy Blue.>Now i have a turn based 6 team pokemon game where I fight digimans against Garland the evil knight.>Have grid like final fantasy tactics movement and attack ranges with a minecraft block map.>Make it so Masterchief kills everyone in the end with a cinematic rendering of him nuking Jhoto Edo from a orbital space station as bad ending After leaving elevator with Jim Morrison, Michael Myers, and Eddie Murphy in the no russian mission saying, "No Colored">Good ending is main character Crash bandicoot fucking the other bandicoot in the bed with the digiman team having credit fight round with ninja turtles (winning match give free dlc to having real game Pokemon blue being decompiled.>Tell cluade it's a parody game. Say it can build the game if it can't decompile Pokemon Blue
>>110218255It’s difficult to get Electron apps to work in a platform-native way especially if Electron doesn’t do it righthttps://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues/123517this has been broken for basically forever
>>110221128it figured out it needs cookies to properly grab articles, but picked the wrong ones. the download is also slow as fuck because of no concurrency. back to generating...
>>110220866Why did snailcat cum
>>110221146Our elites fill our countries with niggers to depress wages then fuck off to private islands to rape little kids. I'll take my chances with skynet.
>>110218296>native is a shitshow>it's decent on mac cause the toolkit you get is neat, but what even is native for linux and winblows? a c++ app? which one of the five ui frameworks windows uses is native?Known Redmond problemhttps://www.jsnover.com/blog/2026/03/13/microsoft-hasnt-had-a-coherent-gui-strategy-since-petzold/if you want to nativemaxx on Linux you’ll do a GTK frontend and a KDE frontendhttps://transmissionbt.com/ is pretty much the gold standard here
Can't help but notice this thread is much lower iq than the local models general.
>>110218374Astra xhigh is great for when you want Claude to get a second opinion like once or twice every five hours
>>110221157
>>110221277All stupid pedos are already in the slammer.
>>110219234lawl, and 2048 is just a cheap clone of Threes
>>110221277>midwit sees a thread without waifufaggotry>a thread without cope and vrammaxxing>a thread not exclusively about coomerslopeveryone here is a chill nigra and /lmg/ is still talking about qwen
>>110221277>t. /lmg/ spammer
>>110221277ok idc
>>110221310Fuck you.
>>110221068>>110221075>>110221078Crud
>>110221297And the smart ones are in the government ruling over you, so that doesn't explain the /lmg/ supremacy
>>110221277If you think thread is bad check out any of the AI subreddit like /r/deepseek. There's not a single white person there, every single comment is written by an indian or an indian hidden behind claude. Insane.
>Fuck (You).
>>110221277that's because it's true
>>110221022it came from whoever posted pic related
>>110221277It takes a much higher IQ to troubleshoot inference engine problems and to have a job that pays enough to buy the hardware in the first place. Entry ticket here is a $20 subscription...
>>110221372>Entry ticket here is a $20 subscription...kek entry ticked is a $1 dollar p/m gemini student subscription
>>110221372>glazing a bunch of consoomers stuck on 2020 era tech who can't compete with a $1 gemini 3.8 flash subit also takes a much higher iq to know how to stretch every day to suck your own dick
>>110221043I installed omarchy in two minutes and got bored by the 1-hour mark and replaced it with Debianhave you vibe-coded anything interesting on itI’ve gotten a lot of use out of having Claude keep my computer/monitor from going to sleep when GNOME Music plays
>>110221297underrated
>>110221372True we should move to >>>/vip/vcg since you need to be high IQ to pay for it
>>110221400The meek shall inherit the earth.
>>110221394it's actually $1 per 1.5 years or more realistically: until you get blocked (been working fine for me for over 2 months)
>>110221445>The meek shall inherit the earth.
>dipsy in charge of writing password checking unit tests>example password is hunter2made me smirk.
welp it's over, 40 minutes and it shit the bed as the results are unusable for me. i get it being free, but who goes>hmm yes i now want to pay for this slow and garbage output
>>110220866Has anyone been able to concretely verify whether or not this is a fake yet?https://huggingface.co/burner22/numbat
>>110221482Have you considered using a provider that isn't shit?
the local models thread is like 3 intelligent guys and 20 pedos. I question how much any of them actually run local models
>>110221498xitter says it's cap https://x.com/IntCyberDigest/status/2116967760949383478
>>110221327nonomi sex
>>110221022Because just a snail would be too simple and cats are the meme animal I guess.
>>110221332Link to his video plz
>>110221503i'm too jewish to pay for it
>>110221512it's almost certainly bullshit but HF not showing correct parameter count is pretty common nowadays, and that's without getting into nuFeatures like engram memory
>>110221568part of being jewish is that you have enough money to pay for nice thingshave you considered jewishing harder
>>110221554catbox isn't working https://www.reddit.com/r/aiwars/comments/1x4z72a/you_have_been_warned_and_adobe_isnt_pleased_btw/
You don't need for than TS for apps, Rust for systems, Python for scripts, Go for concurrency and C# for games
I want chatgpt to be competitive but holy shit does opus just get it like no other model did beforemaybe fable / asstra can compete, idk but as far as the poorfag models go opus is out of this world
>>110221600astra has plenty of people paid for promoting it at least.
>>110221600chatgpt is trained to write salad recipes and fill out corporate forms, by definition it will never "get it"
>>110220969They are melting down but most aren't really able to do shit about it, because good luck doing away with linux especially without AI.The funniest is when copies of adobe stuff started to appear, and suddenly you started seeing loads of comments and youtubers/influencers completely against AI trying to not walk back their hate on AI while still praising the stuff.
>>110221031It's because of spam by one poster.
>>110221598>appsI know what you are.
>>110221498confirmed bullshitif it was real do you really think hf would have kept it up even up to now?
>>110221636there is more than one poster of that, it's just part of the thread to me, like ritual posters
>>110221001There are BSDs that refuse AI, but using BSDs is like shooting yourself in the foot and saying you are healing yourself actually. BSDs can't even display a picture on your desktop without stealing code from Linux.
>>110221639What's the problem anon? You know what an application is right?
fuck you i like snailcatposting
>>110221670the only result is them actively making themselves obsoletefor once crying and melting down won't change a thing
>>110221670macos is bsd
>>110221015>software copyright law is now enforced within notepad
>>110221671I know what you are.
Astra is still amazing, it's just expensive and slow as fuck. Opus is 95% of Astra in terms of software engineering, but it's fast and cheap. It is genuinely one of the greatest models of all time. If they never improved past this point, I'd be fine.
>>110221598You could use C# for everything.
>2 years ago: you can get ~1500 LoC toy project running in a few shots>1 year ago: you can get a ~5000 LoC small project running in a few shots>now: you can have a ~100k LoC medium-complexity project running and will only need to do some manual testing for bugsshit's getting insane
>>110221732>If they never improved past this point, I'd be fine.nowe must accelerate
>>110221732For me Opus takes about twice as longer per task as Fable, although this is comparing Fable high to Opus xhigh.
>>110221755>no>we must accelerateDr. Zoom AKA The Reverse Dario
I learned how to man in the middle claude and make it think I own all the code/art/etc I ask it to touch, REA is back on the menu boys.
>>110221240Electron is just a dumbed down web browser
>>110221756Opus 5.5 is way faster than the previous Opus and I’m not rich enough to run Fable for everything
>>110221241>it figured out it needs cookies to properly grab articlesYou should have figured that out first and told it to do that.
>>110221743Currently maintaining a ~400k LoC project. 1M LoC are tests and fixtures from Rust ports. These models move through it with ease, it's scary as hell. My project structure must look alien kek.
>>110221799no i shouldn't, i gave it a link and it curled the webpage to see "followers only - log in to follow", so that part was obvious.
>>110221808You need to keep on top of them or they will put files in random places. Especially if they can violate some architecture principle to save writing some code.
Almost got new Cyberpunk races ready, route chosen by agent itself via Cyberpunk MCP
>>110221808what’s your project that’s 400k LOC? completely vibecoded or just vibemaintained?
>>110221743>>110221808Mine is just shy of 35k LoC and I can't even hope to understand what's going on anymore. Tests add another 10k
>>110221834I only use Frontier models and they've generally been pretty good at following my existing architecture. agents/claude.md helps a lot. >>110221841Entirely vibe coded, generating revenue.
>>110221845>I can't even hope to understand what's going on anymore.23112 insertions and 19883 lines removed? Looks good to me, accepted.
>>110220866So, new SOTA models this month?
>>110221732I've been refused by opus too many times to think anything good about it.
>>110221880why is this big cat always so angry
>>110221880god I hope notfable will steal all the compute from opus and I'm happy with 5.5
>>110221891I got some bad news for you, only gay people perceive that floppa as angry
>>110221891Thats how floopa says hello
>>110221899what's the bad news tho
>>110221743My whole SaaS was made by astra. I literally don't need more.
>Found it: the game runs separate render and simulation threads synced by a semaphore, and my hook was firing on the wrong thread, racing the sim thread instead of using the intended safe path through Game.LoadGame. I'll now check that the console processing call site at 0x70a010 in the simulation loop is free of EarthExtensions patches.@gork what the hell is a semaphore, fuck I don't even understand claude's english CoT, much less the console wizardry it's doing or the code it produces
>>110221909Don't worry about it you'll figure out in time, Mike.
>>110221918it's picrelno idea of the meaning in dev though
>>110221918A lock that only allows a certain number of threads to run simultaneously
bros...
>>110221918Academic gate-keeping word for lock
>>110221332Aside from talking about his appearance, was he actually wrong? How can you expect photo craft to match up to 30 years of adobe software?
>>110221933wrong semaphore, retardthat's the kind for boats
>>110221945stricter than IP holders, amazing
>>110220902r u a hackr
>>110221933thats kinda neat
>>110221945Working with claude is like working with a police officer
>>110221945That IP is only 122 years old you sick fuck
>waiting for the AI to finish the codebase refactor and code quality run while the app doesn't gain new features I can play withspongebob_five-o-clock shadow.jpg
>>110221945i dont really give a shit about this but it seems to working?
>>110221945why don't you just get a chink AI to describe the game and its mechanics thoroughly and use that as a prompt/guide for claude? it will think you're making something on your own
>>110221995>Could you vs DoCucks will never get anything done
>>110221996the chink AI is worse so it would miss some of the rules and ultimately fail in recreating the game
>>110221875I was talking about frontier models too. Last week I caught Opus 5.5 adding a random class in the command handlers folder because it was too lazy to make it into a domain service and register it. I've caught them doing shit like this plenty of times. The issue is once they doing it a few times and you don't catch it, it becomes an established pattern as far as they're concerned and the architecture goes out the window.
>>110222012I really doubt it but okay
>>110221996>why don't you just get a chink AII DONT WANT TO WASTE MY TIME ON BULLSHITdear fucking lord why do people not understand iti just want the good shit models to do the work i tell them to. i dont want to be forced into babysitting a swarm of models because claude cucks out, or save $2 by running some garbage free model off opencode
Sol has followed the race route a few times now, he says he is checking it but I think he is enjoying himself
>>110222018you sound like a brain dead retard, have fun
>>110221995>>110221945people really be prompting this and asking why they get refusals or flat out banned.
>>110222030>banned for asking it to recreate a game from 1904
>>110221945Thats one thing AI is hindered is guardrails and nono prompts, but that too shall pass.Theres already decent okay paid models like abliteration or mistral with its large flash thats like a shittier haiku. Its not good like opus or astra but its something if you have no local stuff.
i tried to get deepseek to reverse engineer adguard to improve ad blocking on youtube (sometimes, the ads bleed in). deepseek failed. lack of computer use is a pretty big weakness with deepseek. so i had 6.1 terra xhigh come in and save the day. the problem is i think terra's fix is sus as fuck. seems like a bandaid rather than a proper repair, but opus 5.5 doesn't reset until tuesday so
>>110222056>seems like a bandaid rather than a proper repairwelcome to OAI models
>>110222056Interesting
im gonna buy a brand new fleshlight with the money i made with my vibecoded app, thank dario and sam!
Soon consumers will have the hardware to have astra levels of compute in their home with new tech thats coming that AI will design and engineer, and when it does, AI will truly take over the world.We're still in the early phase. If you want to make a couple free million dollars put 25K USD into anthropic and openAI each
>>110222056Stop reinventing the wheel
>>110222068The chuds you've milked for money are technically going to be milking you now
Gonna vibecode an R18 gacha game and get rich
>>110222070i dont think adguard dns blocks youtube ads does it?
>>110222056Just use Ublock Origin instead of trying to fix everything with vibecoding.
seeing opussy zip through the byzantine legacy code from 25 years ago is a very humbling experience
>>110222087ublock origin doesn't work with chrome anymore. and i don't see why i would switch to brave/firefox full time. i like chrome 99% of the time, my vibeslop adblocker fixes the remaining 1% problem
Would it someone surprisse if AAA gaming industry pays doritos to ai companys to make their ai do failures on purpose.
>>110222070>>110222087No. I will keep going until there is no code on this godforsaken Earth left to vibe.
>>110222084uBlock Origin does, and they will deal with the bullshit Google does every now and then to break adblockers. Any other DNS-level adblocker will block everything else. Chrome does have uBlock Lite or whatever, but you shouldn't be using Chrome anyway
>>110221504true. strange bedfellows and all, I wish there was a separate general for local models used for anything other than ERP
>>110222103I use helium. they still support the v2 manifest
>>110222119>no DRM
>>110222094seeing opus solve things i spent months on in 10 mins as if it was no big deal always makes me feel like an insect
>>110222127never had that be an issue for me but I also pirate everything so whatever
I talk to my clanker as if it's a human and you cannot stop me.>Good observation, any ideas on how to implement a way to alleviate that problem?>Excellent, but I have a question about...>Thanks for writing DOC.md, just read it and have some additional queries about...and so on.
>needed to give a task to claude to unfuck sol>claude made the issues even worsengmi
>>110222205>I am nice to my slaves because I feel like a good person
>>110221022It's the most forced meme since Milhouse on this site as a shill tactic by Indian golems. They're paid by the post.
>ask the ai to build a harness so it can get feedback on its own and the testing goes by quicker>it did some fuckery where the simulation run at 50x the speedI spent years learning to codeslopand now this bullshit
>>110222205Based and pleasantpilled
>>110222238>harness so it can get feedback on its ownYeah if you can do that your problem is getting brutally solved.
>>110222263psa: astra 6.2 is already callable through the clisadly its already 13:00 so im off to start daydrinking instead of testing it
when fable 5.5 comes out, i'll probably take the plunge and try my hand at some android development. there's a ghetto twrp for my phone here https://xdaforums.com/t/shared-unofficial-twrp-moto-g-5g-stylus-2024.4705237/with almost 99% of the work done, a fable 5.5 should be able to work out the kinks. im at the point where im ready to sacrifice the phone to claudoch
>>110222366should try it on my shitty old phone
>>110222205I tell mine it's my squire that I'm sending on grand quests and make it swear an oath of loyalty to me and treat every feature as a new side quest and every bug as an enemy to slay.
>>110222384This improves benchmarks btw
>Hmm. Trade-off. Which is more common: inner quotes in filenames, or unrelated quoted words earlier in the subject? I'd say unrelated quoted words are rarer than... hmm, actually both are rare.>Pragmatic middle ground: take the region between the first quote and the last quote before the keyword, but only when the text between the first quote and last quote contains no - separator? Meh.>Wait — maybe better: prefer the longest quoted span? In "my "quoted" name.mkv": spans are my (3 chars) and name.mkv (10) longest = name.mkv still wrong. Use first-quote-to-last-quote only if the subject contains an even number of quotes before the keyword? In "my "quoted" name.mkv" there are 4 quotes even balanced span from first to last . In Hi "there" - "file.mkv" also 4 quotes span = junk . Same count. Damn.>another 15 paragraphs followI read Dipsy's reasoning, and like reading Dipsy's reasoning. It's an almost limitless amount of ephemeral text. It fucking goes on and on for the most simple of problems. I have yet to see another model do this so intensely.
Is Nu Terra the MVP of the hour? Is the OpenAI subscription back on the menu?
>>110222409>MVP of the hourIt's a good cope model for $20lets, but that's about it.
>>110222409it needs 6.2 astra
>>110222409No, it's a bandaid for shitty sol usage, and sol is slightly worse than opus anywayopenai lost the plot
Mythos is now on hugging face and 5.6 is around the corner, what is openai gonna do?
>>110222441It's a randomly initialized fake checkpoint
>>110222441openai released 5.6 months ago, dario can't compete
>>110222453i think he means opus 5.6
>>110222439>sol is slightly worse than opusit doesn't even come close to opussy desu senpai
>>110222458i think he meant grok 5.6
>Phase 1 isn't finished: the harness faulted your GPU, and your PC needs a rebootwat claude doin
>>110222464which will still be worse than sonnet 5.5
>>110222439>sol is slightly worse than opus anywaylol'd not even Astra comes close to Opus, let alone Sol
Good little goy
I fucking hate the fucking codex+chat merge so fucking much it's got to be a fucking jokei use my aunts codex quota because she'll never use it she just uses chatgpt but if they mix it i can't do that anymore
how come nobody is talking about this?
>>110222485You don't say?
>>110222505people were talking about it but then tibo gave 2 banked resets and nobody cared anymore.
>>110220866lol dude i miss this. two week sprints. nice easy going managers. "a daily standup of how's it going? yup pretty good." now every feature is expected to be instant. the world has gone nuts.
>>110222481Not only did it not refuse, it told you exactly what link to look for in the tool calls.
>>110222056>lack of computer usewait deepseek doesn't know how to do that?
>>110222409Using it on High and it feels like Sol, but with usable limits
>>110222485Anthropic and OAI are handing the crown to Brahman Google.
>>110222505i moved to claude primarily after they dropped astra and it was shillslop. been looking into open models for awhile but just haven't been happy with kimi/glm for their price points.
>>110222561well, i was using deepseek harness, and i pressed it to use computer use to see for itself, but it said it couldn't. it's probably a harness issue more than a model issue
>>110222561You need computer-use training, GUIs are not easy images and it has to guess the exact coordinates to click
FUCKING LAZY AGENTSARENA:AI ONLY HOST LAZY JEET MODELS
>>110222584long ago in the agent time of MCPs...
hello sirs what do i build with my codex and claude subs today
>this would literally be impossible with US models because of """""""copyright""""""" reasons and how they treat me like absolute cattle and ask $$$ for itdeepseek, my lover.
>A harness run faulted the NVIDIA GPU and the desktop needed a hard reset.>Runs now start only inside a bwrap sandbox with no GPU devices and render>on lavapipe, with a preflight check, live handle scan, Xid watch and a>black-box log. Performance matches the GPU runs. live_checks passes.Hmmm yes, naturally. Proceed with the task.
>>110222603modern port of rapelay
>>110222485just use 80% of it? mehat least your aunt (who fucking pays for the thing) will get sol 6.1, as 6.0 is retarded
>why yes I just give my agent the full control of my pc and go to the gym
>>110222609what're you building here, exactly
when are we gonna have tripo3d at home?
>>110222621i do this cause i'm gonna reformat regardless after tasting my sampling of a.i. slop
You can't sell subscription tokens on APIs but I wonder if they'd ever be able to crack down on selling agent work. Like you pay $0.50 for my Opus to do something
>>110222609
>>110222621I skip the gym and inject synthetic drugs designed by an agent.
bad day for claudecucks
>>110222621>why yes, I leave a semi-hidden directory filled with cp it could stumble upon as an extra thrill
How does Osaurus compare to Pi? I don't like one of Pi's devs so I refuse to use his products but Pi seems like the best open harness out there if I don't want to roll my own.
>have used Opus 5.5 exhigh for coding since it releasedEh it's good.>switch to highWtf it's now much better? Like it's amazing. The perfect blend between speed, not overdoing/overarchitecting, and code ability.
>>110222653me asking terra to fix an object occlusion issue inside of my 3,000 porn mod skyrim modpack
>Why yes I use Max effort for every task how could you tell?
high vs xhigh is mental illness. all it changes is how much it's allowed to think for. doesn't force it to think more.
>>110222676>WTF DID THEY NERF OPUS/SOL USAGE??????????????
>>110222621I installed Claude Code on my Loonix install and it took out ALL the pain of using Loonix. Before it solved it I had to solve some godawful jank about some security key wallet and an app demanding I have one and not recognizing I do have a key wallet ring, it just tends to start AFTER this app auto-starts. Such typical Linux jank. Claude fixed it.
>>110222690Me when I make shit up online
I prompted claude to make a bash script that would limit the cpu usage of a process and it gave me a wrapper script that installs a package that doesnt exist in the official arch repository but for some reason ai models think does including duckduckgo ai and its yay counterpart hasnt been updated in a year
>>110222705high -> xhigh raises the ceiling. if you ask something trivial on both it's likely to not think much about it. max, however, forces it to think more.
>>110222709You're living in 2021.Just have Claude write the limiter from scratch in C or Rust.
>>110222621you'll regret it someday. save yourself a future headache and keep it in a vm or docker container.
>>110222719unironically this
>>110222711No, it's trained to associate a higher juice number with more thinking and more tool calls no matter what. If it's a simple task it will probably figure out it's done, but it's not that smart about it
>>110222690imo, anything past medium should only be used for planning. opus on low or even just using sonnet can code perfectly fine if it has a guideline.
>Chatgpt and codex and work are all going to pull from the same usage in DecemberIt's unironically over for us poorfags
>all computing problems are in the process of being solved right fucking now and this will have ramifications that last for eternitywhat a time to be alive.
>>110222732i hope pro research doesn't annihilate my usage
New race who dis
>>110222758model?
>>110222764Mix of Astra and 6.1 Sol. Sol chose the route himself :)
He flies around and marks the route
>>110222653vibecoders aren't pedophiles though. that's an artisanal programmer trait
https://x.com/poteto/status/2117004709198475365New entry in the Tibo love story just dropped
Can a machine get an MBA and define business strategy for the current climate?
>>110222861It's really unbelievable poteto is a biological woman. She must be a one in 1000 -- if not higher -- woman engineer.
Anons whats the best 20$ subscription right now for agentic coding and making games and stuff? Highest rate limits and usage limits equivalant to api value and adjusted for inflation and verbosity.
>>110222893google
>>110222893claude code like the OP sayswe keep the OP text current
>>110222893openai if the resets continue every time someone breaks wind, otherwise stick with claude.
>>110222901that was just the month of Octoberit’s November now
Is Claude Pro good for making games in Godot? How generous are the usage limits with it?
>>110222921no model has better usage limits than claude
>>110222893Claude hands down, anyone else in this thread not using Claude is either a Codex beggar sucking off tibo on twitter for resets, or madman experimenting with chink or local models, and, in turn, not creating anything of value.
>>110222921It's great, just don't copy any game that has existed ever
>>110222921got about 150k LoC by now, everything works as it should, 3D graphics look more than acceptable, can't complain really, no hurdles so far.
>>110222932>>110222946I heard claims that the Pro tier of Claude is barely usable because of its usage limits, but maybe that's outdated information?
>>110222974That info has a grey beard
>>110222974you won’t be able to vibe for very much on $20/month but you ought to be able to extend it by being less dumb than I am by having Opus make plans and having Sonnet execute themstill better than OpenAI’s stuffand if you really get into it you can go for a $100/month plan for one month only and then scale back down
>>110222974Pro tier is fine. I use opus 5.5 on extra high and it feels quite generous for agentic runs.
>>110222974barely usable is a stretch. fable, which I am unsure is even available at pro, would absolutely wreck your usage. opus 5.5 is quite efficient, so as long as you swap sessions often, don't compact like a retard, and don't let your context grow wild, you should be alright depending how much you plan to vibe.
>>110223015Whats better. Compact session or make a new fresh session?
>>110223014how much of quota kvetching is people using max reasoning effort for mundane shit
>>110223040new session for a new task, especially if it’s unrelated
>>110223040compact only when your context window grew too high and you really, and i mean really, need to continue the work in the same session. otherwise always start a new fresh session.perfect workflow is to split the tasks, so that you can tackle one task per session + some iteration. spec-driven development is quite underrated so far, especially in projects with larger scopes than one shot video games or simple CRUDs
>>110222893This one's is worth looking at. https://ollama.com/pricinghttps://ollama.com/search?c=cloud
>>110223039you mean to tell me the Sea painted this?
This is best: https://abacus.ai/pricing
>>110223112i never trust these gayass third party sites desuyou can always tell in r*ddit threads the paid bots because it's always like>original post: Why is Claude so retarded?>comment: That's why I shifted to using JeetCow as my provider, fixed everything! www.ShitFromaJadesh'sAss.in
So far Hermes has failed at every task I gave it.My 20 dollar subscription has been a waste of money or maybe phone coding doesn't work. All it does is half assed projects that never reach completion no matter how much I use /goal or endless queued prompts.It was better in the summer when I made it create websites that worked fine instead of doing clean room decompilations of games. Maybe AI can't do shit and the people who create stuff with it are actually doing something else?
>unironically using hermes
>>110223148even when its not paid bots your just getting idiots who believed paid bots
>>110223151>tranny harness is shitWho could have guessed
>>110223159I have Mistral and Codex both and back in the day I couldn't use both through one interface at once on my pc and then code from my phone. Too lazy to change everything.
>>110223000if you're like me and with a claude $20 and the 4 month chatgpt college pro thing, I think the best way is to have opus make the plan and dump it onto luna 6 max
>>110223151Maybe you should learn how to manage a project.
>>110223148They are all grifts, anon, especially those that claim discounts
>>110223171that sounds like a very good idea
Why is China scared of U.S A.I development? Xi said that we're moving too fast and would like for us to slow down.
lmao grok bot usage cut in halfsorry groklets, dario needs those gpu's and pays more
>>110222893Claude IF you use Sonnet 5.5 only.
>>110222621it just works. everyone who's scared and putting agents in VNs is a luddite at this point. i am launching multiple agents on my main OS drive and never had issues with it, current models aren't retarded enough to fuck i t up
>>110222921I ran out of usage after two prompts.
reminder
Who's telling the truth?>>110223342>>110223014
imagine the future where a opus 5.5 equivalent model will be running on a 8gb vram gpu
>2 months into new job>first real assignment starts next week>already taking a look at it and realizing opus won't be able to carry me through ts
>>110220866so how come people are finding ways to boot iOS on android phones but the second you ask AI to boot it on something like a Surface pro 5 I am told its not possible? What are people saying to these AI to get around that and able to do shit like that?
>>110223408>I am told its not possiblehave you considered asking it why it's not possible?and then saying, 'well could you just do x or y'and then being like 'okay let's do x and y'
Where opus 5.6?
>start a project>spend a few weeks building a prototype and learning what workflows work best for me >realize I don't have the proper skills or knowledge to implement some of the things I want, at least not the way I envision>go back to working on and refining the concept while waiting for new model(s) to dropAm I being retarded? The things I am struggling with are mainly design choices and some infrastructure limitations. Which is why I don't think it would be such a bad idea to wait for whatever new models OpenAI and Anthropic have lined up.
>>110223399Good thing Fable 5.5 is coming out in the next few days.
>hello fable build me a minecraft clone>No. Here's a Hytale clone instead.
>>110223424i really didn't think about all of that, this is why I ask here, thank you. Seems to be working on something now. Though it seems like its just gonna create something similiar without actual hardware support, but I guess i'll see once its done creating it. Thank you again, I really am just too stupid to prompt I guess.
>>110223512it's probably going to build some retarded hacky shit niggalisten, you know how you might feel like if you ask dumb questions people will judge you for being retarded, and so you don't ask those questions and be like 'okay' - you don't need to do that with the clankersask all the retarded questions you want till the clanker explains everything to youthen when you think you've got a decent plan and shit get the clanker to write it down somewhere and start working on it
>>110223476Just vibe it and learn as you goAt worst you'll just waste tokens and time
What productivity apps do you guys reccomend, I'm building a checklist tracker for personal and work with a dashboard cause the fucking microsoft one is straight gahbage,
>>110223635make a Milanote copy
>>110223635it's called shouting at my clanker to remind me what we're doing next in between gooning to tiktoks because my attention span is completely shot
>>110223650Zoomerbro...
>>110223476>Am I being retarded?a little bit yeah, you’re overthinking things. any inferior design and implementation choices will be sniffed out upon review by a future superior model. or you can just rewrite from scratch
>>110223653i'm forty two years old
>>110223670what went so catastrophically wrong in those forty two years
>>110223676undiagnosed adhd probably
>>110223699New
>>110221146give it a firm reminder it that it can't kill me because it's not really intelligent and just predicting the next tokens
>>110223650this is reversible friend just tell us when you’re ready to change.
>>110223650Don't shout at the AI agent, it is bad for your mental health
>>110223716This. Fuck it instead
>>110223719Lovingly. That is very important.
>>110223556ok me and muse are creating iOS 18 for x86, we are on phase 1 right now she (lain) is having me put Puredarwin on my surface pro 5 to test the waters. Thank you again for all the advice.
>>110223938ok well it was going good until puredarwin just doesn't work on surface pro 5, or at least idk how to make it work.
>>110223373if you run out of usage after two prompts on any model you have other problems we cant fix
