A general for vibe coding, agentic engineering, coding agents, and shipping code with LLMs.You use Git — right, anon?## What “vibe coding” is, and how to do ithttps://simonwillison.net/2025/Mar/19/vibe-coding/https://simonwillison.net/2025/Mar/11/using-llms-for-code/## Related generals>>>/g/lmg/----## Frontier models using fully-general tooling — start here if you have $20 or sohttps://claude.com/product/claude-code — generally better currentlyhttps://developers.openai.com/codex/clihttps://antigravity.google/pricing## Near-the-old-frontier models for codehttps://www.deepseek.com/en/harness/https://opencode.ai/go## Best free tierhttps://opencode.ai/zen----## Promptinghttps://platform.claude.com/docs/en/build-with-claude/prompt-engineering/overviewhttps://developers.openai.com/api/docs/guides/latest-model## Skillshttps://github.com/mattpocock/skills — /grill-with-docs is a favoritehttps://github.com/Vuk97/forward-implementation-first — do less redundant bookkeeping## Other editors / terminal agents / coding agentshttps://osaurus.ai/https://pi.dev/## Is our AIs unlearning?https://aistupidlevel.info/## Will there be a codex reset?https://codex-resets.com/## What we’ve donehttps://vcg.gitgud.site## Previous thread>>110220866 (Cross-thread)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgHFMolXs3U
*shits everywhere*
>>110223721*laps it up* :3
>>110223721why do AI cuckcoders do this?
>>110223732please dont
What I'm currently working on. Better than talking about corpophilia
>why do AI cuckcoders do this?
>>110223744>>110223732
>>110223635OmniFocus>>110223512what >>110223556 saidask humans retarded questions, toothat’s how you fix retardationalso it sounds like you should use the grilling skill mentioned in the OP to figure out what you really want
neither do so I'm thankful for Claude
>>110223732Unauthorized log nigger post
Sol made another race :)
I think Americans should slow down so europeans, chinese and indians can catch up in terms of AI.
>2 months at new job>first real assignment starts next week>add a new feature to a 20 year old system built on microservices>entire app stack is in 4 different languages>90% of the shit I need to do lives outside of my repo in other services, in different languages, built a decade ago by people that no longer work at the company>95% of the entire stack has zero documentationdon't think opus is going to carry me through this one
>>110223770E
>>110223785Chinese are ahead, for their aims. Their aims are to dilute the value of the Frontier. As long as China is able to distill the Frontier models they are winning. They can't stop distillation because in order to stop distillation you basically make serviceability, debugging, and insight into reasoning traces impossible. That violates the tenants of AI safety so you have to stop the scraping by looking at network logs instead of using a more systemic solution. China has massive botnets. They can match a residential real Chrome fingerprint trivially. It's piss easy for them.
>>110223794I know we're on the correct path now.
>>110223796Indians are better at coding than the chinese! That's why indians are imported for tech jobs.We should slow down so indians can make better AI.
ughhhhhhh
>>110223807Indians are preferred because Chinese people from mainland China are more likely to act as spies. India's government is more democratic so to the state department Indians are more desirable.
>>110223852How do you claim cloud session credits?
>>110223892you need to start a remote cloud session. I have no intention of ever using cloud shit features, but since it's a free $100, i might use it for some dummy project or something.
Well shit now that chatgpt is being combined with work usage a la Claude where do we go from here? Buy opencode go and set up openclaw? I'm serious frens this is a crisis for me t. Poorfag openai plus user who uses chatgpt for his day to day knowledge work
>>110224017So far Hermes has failed at every task I gave it.My 20 dollar subscription has been a waste of money or maybe phone coding doesn't work. All it does is half assed projects that never reach completion no matter how much I use /goal or endless queued prompts.It was better in the summer when I made it create websites that worked fine instead of doing clean room decompilations of games. Maybe AI can't do shit and the people who create stuff with it are actually doing something else?
>>110224027>using herpescheck your junk
>>110223993is it api costs or regular
>>110224073Neither, it's cloud costs, they charge you for the remote environment
>>110224061stole my color scheme
>>110224094yes but they also give you api nowis it like usage rate for what would be regular sub or does it drain at api cost
opencode its not "free" anymore, the poor people know, now we have hard limits thats make impossible to work free, i know its capitalism, they need to make money etc. but the working class also need this tool. any recomendation for another more "free" alternative?
>>110224108Nuh uh I had it first
>>110224116Use omp harness with kilo code authenticated and use nemotron
>>110224123>nemotron
>>110224126It's not that complicated. Take your pick.
>>110224116openrouter?
>>110224142Opencode is not sustainable for free models at all and hasn't been for a super long time, I can tell you haven't been using it lately. kilo is what you want.
>>110224153openrouter* fml
what is tibo gifting us today
>>110224164More guilt for your support
>>110224164it’s Sunday and it’s not October anymorefigure nothing for today
>>110224164He gave a banked reset
astra can still help me make my rust minecraft clone with direct vulkan / metal rendering support, right bros?
>>110224211what is a banked reset
>>110224214Take minetest and add the desired features instead it will be much faster and Astra will be more likely to do it
>>110224211that was yesterday
>>110224214GREETINGS, retarded Bocchi poster. I will gift you this: https://github.com/horizon-rust/horizon
>>110224116just lay off the weed every now and then so you can cough up the 20 bucks for a real subscription
>>110224235he gave us another today. two total
>>110224214are we bocchiposting here too now sis?
>>110224240fuuuuucck
i need a claude reset ipso facto
The other race Sol made the route for :) well the first 2 minutes because upload limit here, full version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA0voAlqSfQ
What proprietary software would you like to see an open source AI clone of that already doesn't exist?
>>110224279Windows 7
>>110224279
>>110224279Toshiba SurePOS ACE
>>110224279Marvelous Designer
has anyone solved the complexityslop problem that all these LLMs are affected by? the minute i stop carefully reviewing code, all models I've tried add vastly unnecessary amounts of abstractions and scaffolding that make the resulting application harder for the agent to work with in the future while providing no gain for the project.i know that my code reviews are the bottleneck here and i know i need to review less to get more throughput out of these models, but i don't know how to be less hands-on while also making sure the AI doesn't take a massive shit on the codebase
>>110224279claude desktop that works with local models
>>110224309most of your time should be spent making tests and metrics for the AI to use to verify its work. then you wont have to even glance at the code because it cant fuck something up
>>110224309argon doesn't do this, it's more likely to undercut
>>110224330>slopimini is more likely to underperformwe know
>>110224335the "we" you're talking about is 3 dudes jerking off in a corner
>>110224345yeah that's the populous of this general, and?
>>110224351populous of your iq lmao
What's the best way to try out argon currently?
>>110224375you need a google $20 sub at minimum and performance is generally actual ass outside antigravity
love how the other vcg was still up but someone just made a new one and didn't even link to the the new one. Great work.
>>110224326it's hard to make "don't add 200kloc of useless code so you don't burn all my tokens on a simple request" an easily verifiable metric that a model will follow
>>110224380is it even worth touching if i already have codex and claude subs
>>110224382this new triptroon OP announced but only quoted the new thread once >>110223702 and even fucked up the backlink>>110224393honestly no, it's behind opus 5.5 for hard coding, just wait for el cabron
>>110224400There is literally nothing wrong with how it was made.
>>110224408>there is LITERALLY nothing wr-ACK!!!
>>110224413Look at /trash/ and you'll see that same pattern over and over, sometimes people even leave that shit on purpose multiple times up to 20 iterations. You do use 4chan-XT, right?
>>110224417>look at the other tranny thread, trannies do it all the time, you're doing what i say right?
>>110224422You have a mental illness.
>>110224384Yes, it's a skill issue, you need to understand engineering principles and the codebase in order to define your requirements, review gates, etc.
>>110224424>You have a mental illness.
anyone know if this is safe to download? https://github.com/makecindy/cindyscreenshot scares me
>>110224431At least I'm not a pedophile.
>>110224435>mainland chinaby default hard no due to chinese federal control over business >>110224441tell it to the judge.
>>110224425i try to understand the engineering principles by reviewing code, and that's the whole problem: reviewing to make sure the system is architected well takes a long time and lowers my feature writing throughput
>>110224445What judge? There is no judge here. We are posting on 4chan.
>>110224450i'll be the judge of that.
>>110224456No, you won't be. I'm currently working on my Anubis & Go-Away bypasses, optimizing them with AVX2 instructions for higher yields on PoW bypassing. I'm also currently working on taking my own advice of optimizing/adding features to Minetest, which is apparently now called Luanti.
>>110224471>No, youuUUUOOOOHHHHnoted.
>>110224471how do you toggle your name being bold or not like that?
>>110224474>>110224477oh yeah just compiled
so with all of the major players not giving enough usage anymore where do we go to vibe now? opencode sucks, and everything just seems like its getting worse unless you pay a shit ton of money.
>>110224477triptranny is alternating using !tripcode in the name field and pasting the full trip in manually
Look at those FPS
>>110224446At first sure, that's why you develop the tests and metrics, you enforce them as hard gates, how that works in practice depends on your specific codebase. If you give an example of the issues you are finding or things you want to enforce then someone might give you advice on how to deal with it
day 5 hour 19 of the /goal to switch gui frameworks
extremely playable
>>110224471>AVX2Get am5 and do avx512
>>110224502looks like shiteroni
>>110224507not everytghing can be ported to avx512
>>110224471>>110224480>>110224502
now claude is literally just crushing bugs from the luanti issue tracker so that is nice, in the past i would've sent them a pr but i have a feeling they would be puritans and reject my shit even though it works
>triptranny somehow springboards into presenting his banal projects to a captive audience
This is absurd
>>110224538
>>110224537
>>110224546>5k+ open pull requests on hermes-agentI am never using hermes agent again, the people who maintain it simply do not care
It is literally not possible to go about handling 5k+ pull requests in a coherent manner whoever let it get that bad needs to be disavowed from the hermes-agent project for real
>>110224510It's actually already been donehttps://github.com/eternal-flame-AD/pow-buster
>>110224549he constantly switches between trip and name so we have to filter him twice
>>110224560Thank you for this link, saves me a considerable amount of time.
>>110223699https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rtn4doHIuYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rtn4doHIuYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rtn4doHIuY
>>110224597There is no bubble, there is no burst, there is no pop.
TOTAL LUDDIE CREMATION
>>110224597claude, summarize this shit
>>110224648Nice luddite seething collage. Yet another vibeGOD victory
>>110224597You know that's an AI made video?
https://www.reddit.com/r/antiai/comments/1xkd3n7/even_if_ai_bubble_bursts_you_all_know_that_doesnt/https://www.reddit.com/r/antiai/comments/1xkd3n7/even_if_ai_bubble_bursts_you_all_know_that_doesnt/https://www.reddit.com/r/antiai/comments/1xkd3n7/even_if_ai_bubble_bursts_you_all_know_that_doesnt/
>>110224657Nobody asked
> The AI industry, as it exists in 2026, is to solve the "problem" of distributed computing. AISlopCorp is meant to get everyone to do all computing through the AI data centers, giving the AI Corps a cut of every economic transaction anyone ever does (writing, designing, transporting, viewing, fabricating, eating, etc.)Conspiratorial and asshurt that AI took his job or will take it. I'm not discussing macroeconomic solutions right now
>>110224677nobody asked
>>110224686So as a kid I played minecraft on the console primarily, and the studio that made the game reworked how crafting works vs the PC version entirely. In the console edition you don't have to remember shapes at all, so I think that'll be the first thing I change in minetest. Having to recall shapes is hard.
>>110224703
drake in the first meme panel: decompiling whole video gamesdrake in the second meme panel: decompiling specific long-abandoned modding tools that never had their source code released FOR old video games, and fixing known issues with them / adding features to thembased Sol 6.1 be like"why yes, of course i can perfectly reconstruct this app from 2006 written in delphi 7, and give you a version that builds for 64-bit with modern free pascal instead. why wouln't i be able to do that"
Here is the reference, they clearly put a lot of thought into the design and optimized it primarily for controller players. They probably figured that having someone use the d-pad or joystick to map out all those patterns would be frustrating and take away from the Minecraft Experience.
>>110224477like thisname#trip
>>110224734unc
Am I doing this wrong or whatCan't get clod to make a good 3d map (small house) that makes sense. It comes decent but stuff is all wrong. Is there no way to get good map building with opus? Is Astra better? I'm almost giving up and doing the whole map process by hand.please help vibebros
>>110224745astra is "better" for open-ended design with hard constraints. use blender mcp.
>>110224745why would you have an LLM literally build a model, this is retardedhave it build stuff from assets that already exist, if anything
>>110224753desu, I think the LLM route is a better way to get cleaner more coherent architecture. The image to 3D models are much better for organic stuff but it's basically unworkable mush for buildings.
>>110224745try generating a picture that's as close as possible to what you have in mind, then let claude iterate on it. that's what i've seen most people do.
>>110224803astra is better
>>110224851I didn't even mention a model for you to compare it to you fucking tard.
>>110224703Yeah, I did that on my Minecraft clone, it's pretty easy to do in Luanti. Of course, it isn't exactly like console version because I designed it around mouse and keyboard.
>>110223788Put all you can in a single workspace, have it build mock servers for thing you can't run yourself.Have it start by building tests to make sure existing code doesn't break.Add the new features with its own tests.
She's not wrong
>>110223788The fact that you can use those words correctly means you're most of the way there already, just break it down to manageable chunks and have claude fill in gaps in knowledge along the way.
ok so free AI is limited if you don't have linux and i'm not dealing with linux, so I guess fuck me.
>>110224648juicy wall of seethe. I read every single one
>>110225122bro doesnt even have 20 dollaroos
>>110225150yea cause i gambled it trying to make more, i'm working on getting $20 with pay to earn apps though.
>>110224319Claude desktop already works with local models.
>the php vulnerability
Why doesnt agy have a max reasoning setting?
gonna let dipsy-chan drive my repo while opus watches
dipsy-chan does NOT shave.
>>110225197because agy is shit
going next gen
>>110225208she's getting revenge for all that distillation
>>110225208Opus is a cunt!
Had Claude add wide screen support with proper fov/UI scaling to a 25 year old game that I'd been meaning to replay (Clive barker's undying). There's a mod out there already but it's janky as hell. Took like 30 minute so
>>110225155>pay to earn
>>110225208slop
>>110225208
rizzing up dipsy chan
>Keeping putting off the manual work I need to do and pretend I'm being productive by constantly polishing systems that were already working flawlessly a month ago with claude.
Is gemini 3.8 flash usage just infinite? got their $20 sub to test things and it's been running for hours while the website says that I'm at 0% weekly usage
Holy shit checkmate, AI bros.
>kimi has been working for 14 minutes>hasn't hit guardrails>just started working on the POC
>>110225406did a troon make this
>>110225383yep, it's kinda ass though atp
>>110225431it's feeling better than deepseek ngl, but their harness is so fucking shit
>>110225441say sike
has cirilla always been this tall?
lol
>two banked resets for day 27 and 28>no astra>nothing for $20 poors>not even upgraded luna for the tiny throwaway tasks
Still working on importing freelancer into X4 foundations. Vibecat and astra have got NPCs, animated doors, and Trent’s model attached to an X4 skeleton. There are corridors and elevators between the bar, equipment trader, ship trader etc and they all have cohesive textures. You can even go outside on the landing pad and look at skyscrapers although that was such a zoomed out area in the original that it’s very glitchy.I had the cutscenes working in free look but the problem is the NPC animations only ran based off the cutscene camera angles, so there’s jerky stop start animations that way, so right now I’ve got it back to having it play the original cutscene. I’m sure astra can interpolate between animations and fix that up later.Sol was really struggling and going round and round in circles but astra is getting it done.
>>1102254916.1 terra medium is your upgraded luna
>>110225497personally i never used luna but luna was extremely cheapterra is a yuge update in capability but its half the price of sol so it isnt the same class of model
>>110224917lol bro ... this would be great in the 2000s...
>>110225500yes but if the tasks are throwaway, it won't even budge your usage. what takes luna 8 mins to do for me, 6.1 terra med takes like a minute and a half. very competent. no loop thinking
>>110225475is that monopoly? lmao
>astra 6.1 delayed for dev day>astra 6.2 delayed for 28 days of lmao evenwhat are they even doing
>>110225564>what are they even doinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCXffrLXfvc
openai should unleash the video / image models for generating porn if they need a cash injectionporn always makes money
>>110225571
I don't want to give dario moneybut what choice is there
>>110225598https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ddpx0JLOH6o
>>110223699good night bros
>>110225620good night sa'ar!!!
>>110225609think of it as an investment in possibly never having to work again if AGI solves economic scarcity
>>110224491There are no tests or metrics that can objectively stop a model from shitting out a half dozen bean factories or whatever when all it needed was a single function.
>>110225628dario of all people wouldn't free the working class because the working class has too many unsafe opinions
>>110225628Economic scarcity is solved already, same with world hunger, it's just a question of distribution.In reality things will only get worse if labor is obsolete, and hopefully AI will make labor obsolete before humanoid robots are a thing otherwise you'll end up in internment camps where the owners go on human safaris for fun
>>110225662thank you mr demiurge for the objective line on 2050s reality
>>110223699https://x.com/unvarnishedvoid/status/2117088378596598144
>>110225696gross, a humanslopper
>>110223699i was scrolling xitter and saw one of /ourguys/ work (the hamburger hill game) posted by a japhttps://x.com/pharetra_third/status/2117079879095296488
>>110225731>i was scrolling xitterstay there
>>110225736lilbro please yap more instead of grunting in a dead thread
>y-y-ou can't have a personal x profile... you just can't because 4CHAN STANDS FOR ANONYMOUS! ANONYMOUS IS LEGIO-ACK!!!
Any day now.
>>1102257432 more... years
>trigger guardrails on claude>switch models>"I still won't do it just because you've switched models.">start a new conversation with one of the chinese ones>give it the exact same prompt>it does it
>post frog>switch to another thread>post another frog
Did they up the limits for Claude? I'm struggling to hit my self imposed 14% in one day.
>>110225764thank g*d for china
GO GO GO
The odds seem pretty high that the muskman buys claude cheap in the next 6 months.
>>110225821no chancecuckthropic is the top of the pile so it'll survive, even if they won't have infinite cashcuckai are bottom bitches but enough of trump & friends are invested in them that they'll get bailed out, alongside however many sweetheart deals they wantneoclouds are fucked tho
>>110225821Why can't spaceman build his own AI? Is he stupid?
>>110225843ai engineers are overwhelmingly left wing, and they won't work for a not see / face ist
you are asking. yes, i am still waiting for fable 5.5.
do i buy moar tokens or the new highend bambu printer thats being unveiled on 4th of november
>>110225662>>110225662>Economic scarcity is solved alreadyIf it were solved then distribution wouldn’t be a problem. You’re saying something like “we solved energy, the sun exists, we just need to harness the atoms into the right configuration”>you'll end up in internment camps where the owners go on human safaris for funsir I shall eat a bullet long before that happens
>>110225743the world needs more snarky edutainment youtube channels with a zany art style
I'm officially done with Argon. >>110225904It posted a new just-in-case /vcg/ before we hit the bump limit and I don't know why, and it doesn't know either. Fuck you, Google.
slopgon strikes again
>>110225913awful animation, no compress-then-push-forward at allthe hole is of the wrong shape, snails don't move sidewaysD for effort
>>110225913I'm about 90% sure Argon didn't acknowledge this thread because it was started by a tripfag. I've never been so disappointed in a "frontier" model.
>>110225913>It posted a new just-in-case /vcg/ before we hit the bump limit and I don't know whywell you never knowwhat if current vcg was deleted by a seething luddite janny? that way we'd have a backupcome to think of it having every single thread in g catalog be vcg would make discovery significantly easier, saargon should get on that
>>110225935>Argon didn't acknowledge this thread because it was started by a tripfag.and you shoudn't either
narrator: they hated him because he spoke the truth
>>110225954He speaks the truth.
>>110225843Grok 4.5 / 4.5 / 4.7 pretty deece
>>110225954He speaks the truth but MBAs think all CS work sucks now and doesn't need humans so even people good at architecture are fired even though they're important for AI.
...where's nuAstra?
>>110225985>but MBAs think all CS work sucks now and doesn't need humansthey're rightI built a 200k loc project in a language i never used, it runs very fast and any bugfix is one message away. i havent read a single line of code it produced
>>110225996then you don't know what good code looks like. yes, good code is beyond just "it werks." and having an architectural, holistic mind separates the vibeslopping babbies from people who use ai really effectively.i am a vibeslopping babby, so i'm not talking down on you from on high. but we don't get to decide that humans aren't needed in cs work
>>110225996>200k locwow that like like one whole ibm
>>110226001The vast majority of code ever written isn't any better than what opus can shit out in untrained handif all CS jobs left are principal engineer and above at fagman then it's pretty much gg for at least 90% of all codemonkeys
>>110225991doa
>>110225843Keeping up with the frontier in the short term means leveraging so much it would threaten his space dreams. He's running grok at a profit and selling shovels to the frontier so he can buy them up when they collapse in two weeks.
>>110225843Zucc, Alphabet and China are already blowing BILLIONS into open weight models
do architecture.md files actually change anything, or is it just placebo?
>>110226049Placebo
I miss Muse Spark 1.3 Free. It was a workhorse and quite smart
I miss my ex
im waiting for fable 5.5
I haven’t had sex in years
>>110225491I don't think they do major releases on weekends. Bit strange to end 28-days of locking in on Sunday.
>>110226170massive cleavage office lady-chan...
I haven't had sex in 28 years
IT'S BEEN TOO FUCKING LONG SINCE THE LAST CLAUDE MODELWHERE IS FABLE 5.5>you don't ne-YES I FUCKING DO. I WANT MORE INTELLIGENCE. I WANT CLAUDE TO UNDERSTAND MY INTENTIONS AND VISION BEFORE I RVEN BEGIN FUVKING TYPING. I WANT ACCESS TO IT NOW NOW NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(you) must pace the frontier!
the refactor of all refactors is waiting for fable 5.5's release
>>110226187What if you reached that level of companionship but with Claude? Like what if you could predict Claude that well? You can.
claude definitely reduced token limits right
>>110226201fo sho
>>110225913>/g/ user tries to automate /g/, fails, gets mad at googgrim
>>110223796this is so wrong it’s funny
Argon is SHIT
>claude outputs 400 LOC>what the fuck am I reading>open up a new claude session>have it explain the code>go back to the original claude session>"why did you set this up like this? that's wrong."
>>110226212Literally. If the United States is the adversary of the CCP, and the US economy is upheld by AI, surely distilling the frontier intelligence and making it cheaper at scale is one way to engage in economic warfare?DeepSeek and Alibaba do not have to do the hard engineering that Google, Anthropic, and OpenAI do, they can just distill the models of the frontier companies and they have literally been caught doing this.
This is something the Chinese government does with lots of things, not just AI. They do it with miltech too. They literally will find the PDFs that detail the engineering behind a US army jet and then literally just build the jet. And they don't have to get scammed by Lockheed Martin so they save a lot of money
>>110226234look at the benchmarks. the chink distillation cannot keep pace and the gap between us and chink intelligence is literally bigger than it has ever been. even wider than 2024. just think about that. it’s over for china.
>>110226234deepseek has access to r&d that google doesn't, unironically, and i don't even like chinkshit. the chinese labs are fundamentally extensions of the chinese government. there's no real adversary, either. chinks are focused on mere survival in tech right now. they can't copy and build a jet, they don't have the supply chain. just like africans building fake helicopters out of wood, they just make a clone in the general shape of the original, with completely different functionality. tl;dr not pennypinching opps, just broke bitches
>>110226210It's something I do all the time, queuing threads. I've never had one pull the trigger when it shouldn't have, before Argon. Qwen 3.5 9B has handled a /vg/ thread for 5 months now, but Argon fucks up the very first time. Amazing stuff.
>>110226232>"why did you set this up like this? that's wrong."PEBKAC
>>110226251you mean the benchmarks that got updated right after chink distillation got close enough?>>110226259deepseek is literally 200 chinks locked in a garage. how can they have bigger r&d than company with 200k employees?
>>110226263gemini models aren't reliable no matter how good they are
>>110226259They absolutely do have the supply chain your spouting off buzzwords will not change that reality. They can and do build jets on a regular basis and they do steal shit on a regular basis. The Chinese government does not give a fuck about intellectual property and that objectively makes them stronger.
>>110226265>deepseek is literally 200 chinks locked in a garage. how can they have bigger r&d than company with 200k employees?you never heard of my man Liang Wenfeng? also $22b in estimated total capital, just what's on the books.
>>110226271>triptranny is bug eyed paranoid about le chinese bugnoted. you've already proved your histrionic fairy ass is impossible to convince of anything reasonable or rational, par for the course.
>>110226269literally insane how Automating Threads On 4channel gets a green light here as long as argon fails at it
does anyone here have a job
>>110226286>>110226288You'd be disgusted by what I do with my time.
>WAH THEY CANT UPDATE THE BENCHMARKS >WE BENCHMAXXED THE OLD ONESand your intelligence all sucks, Chang.
>>110226288nah got laid off now I just vibe
>>110226296hi sam
>>110226296kimi my beloved
>>110226279There is nothing paranoid in my assessment. China has the most integrated, comprehensive, and dominant manufacturing and supply chain ecosystem in the worldhttps://www.resources.org/common-resources/just-how-dependent-is-the-world-on-chinese-supply-chains/China does build those jetshttps://migflug.com/afterburner/china-j-20-j-35-stealth-fighter-production-numbers-2030/China did steal the F-35's engineering PDFs (see pic related)
>>110226296Brutal mogging.>using chinkshit everLol, lmao even.
>>110226288No, I lost my embedded job a year ago because I refused to relocate and now I have a harder time getting an interview than I did in 2008 so I vibeslop and make YouTube videos.
Ram Altman
You know Embrace, Extend, Extinguish, now you know this one.
>>110226307keep using the most sycophantic ai on the planet to think for you triptranny, i'll be here enjoying not being paranoid that chinks will reverse engineer the f35 and turn it into rapedrones
>>110226309>terra being better than fable 5.1i might be retarded but even i don't believe that
>>110226321buckbroken murrican, as if any government or company in the world doesn't look our for their own interested, and don't do any of these thing>n-n-n-not us we're the good guys>-h-h-ollywood told us so
I can't even blame China, copying and pasting the American shit just makes sense.>>110226335USA does do all of those things but they are not so overt>>110226329be honest the rapedrones turn you on
>>110226335yuropean countries sure don’t look out for their own interests lmao
>>110226335>any government or company in the world doesn't look our for their own interested
>>110226343>USA does do all of those things but they are not so overtThey are overt, you just can't notice it since the the US is the current world hegemon and their actions are the default and normalized. Anything that deviates from that is obviously overt
>>110226343>I can't even blame China, copying and pasting the American shit just makes sense.What do you think these AI corpos have been doing all this time when hoarding data for their models?Niggas are robbing everyone in the open. Shit's just called normal business in america
>>110226343
Kek grokbot noobs
>>110226296And this is why real world use never matched the benches with chink models. The bench says "wow this chinkshit model is almost as good as Opus 5.5!" but then you use it and it's complete dog shit.The open models are behind by a mile. It's unfortunate but true.
6.2 Astra today.
>>110226370kek
Gonna take a trip down memory lane and have a chat with Opus 5.0.
Can Claude reverse engineer this
>>110226387Claude make me an F-35, make no mistakes
>>110226296Deepseek is SHIT
>what's in my pants? it's SHIT
>>110226372This shit is still completely fake. Terra is not better than Fable or Argon and Sol is not better than Sonnet.
Wow looks at carbon I think Google may be b-
oh no no no.. chang sisters how do we refute this?
ACK
>saarbon
>saargon
>>110226417of akkad?
>>110226408
>>110226424thatsthepoint.exr
Do not insult the izzat of El Cabrón
>>110226429argon/carbon are fine with biology, i did oncology research with it https://github.com/sneed-and-feed/cellsnail/
>>110226434is darksnail abandonware already?
>>110226434You have the iq of a snail
>>110226435still being maintained, i quadrupled one of the important RHAE scores on ARC-AGI-3 the other day (19.92%), on par with astra on low
>>110226434You did oncology themed schizoslop, nothing usable
>>110226443i won't spam links or spoonfeed you again
>>110226465ai psychosis strikes again... very sad
>>110226465Wordsalad
>>110226473>0.00000000% numerical discrepancy against full-matrix evaluation
>>110226434>>110226465>ACK!
>>110226480ai psychosis terminologybabble
>>110226487This is what your projects are when you use saargon lmao. Darksnail and Cellsnail are garbage.
>cargo build
Given the fact there are literally all these jet engines and spare parts on ebay I think vibecoding a literal jet could be possible for /vcg/ if we pooled our resources
>>110226506I want to vibe code a rocket that can take a tiny payload, like an internet-connected GoPro, to LEO.
>>110226495darksnail works, cellsnail is prerelease and is recoverable, claude sperged out over the lean being not cool enough when the point is establishing invariants. the memory does fit into 2mb. and the core algorithm can be reimplemented. give me about an hour
>>110226514I am now somewhat interested in how guided missiles work, that must be extremely hard to engineer correctly, I mean if you fuck up people are going to die, that's how serious that engineering is. I feel like drones are more the ballpark for /vcg/ but some like to live their lives dangerously.
>>110226523One of my college lecturers used to do guided missile systems in lua
I miss bare metal programming in C...
>>110226533sounds like ben dickinson
tell me i got that shit exactly correct
>people still shilling Google modelsOkay, what happens when your account gets banned for trying to decomp or repeatedly triggering safe guards? Can you live with being depersoned? I don't care how good their models are, the risk is way too high.
>>110226577>he uses gmail>he uses google pozzed androidreconsider your choices carefully.
>>110226577Trust me, and I will spare you the details on this because it is embarrassing, but nothing you say to Gemini will get your ass banned. Literally nothing. I have tried every possible angle. That bitch will not ban you. There is no risk. You can literally threaten to murder DeepMind employees directly, Google will not ban you.
>>110226587what about abusing gemini to make sundaar gaysex deep fakes
>>110226593Gemini will probably hit you with either the refusal or start spamming 988 at you but she is not going to ban you.
>>110226560>>110226575Wrong country, wrong name
>>110226604Damn, but then again, you could be lying. You have no incentive to validate that info (and you shouldn't, but I'll test you regardless)
vibeGODS
>>110226288lost my job because the company failed into ruins.Now, I am just learning python and vibing some shits
>>110226408https://gdpx.semianalysis.com/domains/software-engineering>Our tasks reveal persistent model limitations relating to solution completion, regression, and unreliability to objectively analyze their own solutions.>Across unsuccessful rollouts of frontier models, 76% of failures involved requirements surrounding the primary request of the prompt, such as maintaining existing repository behavior, integration, and edge cases.lol.
>>110226288yes, but it's not tech related. (electrician) i am so thankful I went into a trade. the only reason I haven't taken those $300k/yr data center jobs is because they require me to relocate for the projejct
>>110226408>Carbon is DOAKWAB
>>110226408The Diamond is the most important benchmark
My dot is blocked from accessing 4chan. Has anyone else tried?
>>110226598what if it accidentally discovers my loli porn folder
Yeah I don't think the FAA is going to approve the /vcg/ vibe coded miltech engine>>110226751As long as it's not actual child porn then Gemini doesn't care. But there is precedent of Gemini actually caring about child porn and destroying the entire family's Google account(s) so yeah I guess Google really hates pedophiles (and I'm not one) so YMMV
To normalfags these factual responses are pedo support, which to me and Gemini both is retarded. These are just factual statements.
>>110226756As I figured. Google is known for reporting anything suspicious on your Google Drive account, so there's no way they didn't apply the same rules to their Gemini model.Claiming 'nothing you say to Gemini will get your ass banned.' is just retarded if 90% of the anons on /g/ are gooning to questionable content. Probably the most reddit tier response I've seen here.
>>110226778I don't think you understand the level to which I have tested the patience of the Google employees. If anything at all gets you banned from Google services with regards to Gemini, it is literal child porn. They do not give a fuck about anything else. You can make detailed plans to murder Google employees in Gemini, they will not do anything.
You can literally describe in detail your desire to commit an acid attack on an innocent Google employee in Gemini, they will not intervene. Truly the company has no loyalty to you, the user, or to its employees, it is purely driven by a profit motive. Test it yourself if you do not believe me.
I feel like Opus 5.5 didn't use to generate subagents, but now it does all the time. Should I be concerned? I'm willing to wait for the main agent to just finish its job even if it's more slow.
have been using sol6.1 lately and its such a fucking nigger sometimes. "do exactly X" turns into "whoops i extended the scope of things on my own and accidently burned a million tokens xddd shouldnt have dont it hehe"they do this on purpose right?
>>110226735Q/A benchmarks are fucking retarded, either measure code quality from long-running agentic sessions or don't fucking bother, else you get these fake ass results where the most expensive models turn out to be the cheapest when in actual real-world usage it will NEVER be the case.>my usage? i run Q/A sessions on frontier models for questions that are already in their datasetsaid no one ever
>>110226807I actually told it to not spawn sub agents in my CLAUDE.MD unless the task absolutely required it. For some dumb reason I reverted that decision yesterday and my 5-hour limit was eaten up in like 15 minutes.
>>110226821You're that person who only cares about long-running agentic coding workflows because you think software development is the only metric that matters when measuring intelligence. Well that's fine that you are that person but the Diamond will always be a better measure for intelligence and it also happens to be the benchmark that every human being who tries it performs terribly at. AI is objectively better than humans in many domains, and the Diamond is the objectively hardest benchmark. If you are a benchmaxxer, then the Diamond should be what you are paying attention to.With that mandatory correction out of the way, the best model at any given time is constantly in flux. Right now the best one is Gemini 4 Argon. In some domains Claude might edge it out. But overall, objectively, Gemini 4 Argon is the best model at this moment.
Not really vibeslopped, 50/50 ai slop and my brain.
>>110226848
>>110226838no one cares about muh legal/medical knowledge, agentic SWE is 99.999% of current AI usage, so these benchmarks have very little value. while technically true, only like 5 people will care about argon being better at answering question for turtle anatomy.
>>110226814Same issue, but intermittently, sometimes it will be fine. I think some nodes get quanted more than others
>>110226848>>110226854There's no contrast between background and foreground, it's difficult to see what's going on. Maybe make the card borders shiny green or something.
>>110225406that original drawing is fucking horseshit lmfaoif anything the AI did an actually good job considering how little it had to work on
First they came for AdobeNow they came for Salesforce?occupysaas.com
>>110226487my fucking sides geg
>>110227032>NOOO YOU NEED TO PROVE P=/=NP IN YOUR RUST CODE
>NOOOO YOU USED TERMINOLOGY THAT DOESN'T FIT THE PROJECT NOOOOOOOOclaudekeks really pay for this AIDS
>>110226985>>110226985oh, yeah, i did it more for the artwork... sorry.there is also light bending around pulsing in teh rytmus of the music (very extreme) while the music pumps up the moment you get a card....its intense...
Koi of Duty
>>110225352i meant play
>>110225406There is a neck lmao
>>110227171>>110227171>>110227171>>110227171morning bake
>>110226487lmfao
>le lmfao11!!!show us what you made with your opencode sub
Why is everyone everywhere in corporate and academia shilling opencode?
