good morning saars

Saar namaste

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Big day today, Freeman.

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fable 5.5 waiting room

>>110227253
does bro live in a cardboard box right in front of someone's house

>>110227253
What are they saying?
@GROK
translate this shiw NOW

>>110227273
Don't ask questions, just make more slop and consume more slop.

>>110227253
Opus is a cunt!

>deepseek
>fixes shit it finds, tests code rigorously, implements user interfaces well, high-level of reasoning
>Sol
>lazy piece of shit
What the hell is OpenAI doing here. What is their end-goal? Their models are crap. Yeah Dipsy doesn't reach the raw intelligence of the latest Sol, but it performs better anyway since it's way, way more pro-active.

>>110227482
b-b-but the benchmarks say sol is 30 points better and still cheaper!!!

>>110227482
you know if you're going to lie about models you've never used, don't imply that openai models don't test enough lol

>>110227482
deepseek is just distilled claude anyway, but a few months behind.

Fable 5.1 says my next project will be "years of work".

>>110227649
tell it that you mean to use opus, not sol

>>110227649
Tell Fable 5.1 it has a day.

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>>110227253

>>110227649
Every model is still retarded with time estimates

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Expanding Love, Actually.exe/Velvet Kade to a series of quests

>didnt have time to vibeslop nor set up autonomous slopping due obligations
>finally got time now, 7h left until my weekly reset on my cc ultra plan
>dooming about 5h limit in my cc prompt
>suddenly remembered anthropic removed 5h limit on ultra plans earlier this week
holyshit, that timing is impeccable

>>110227730
Really? Oh man I need Ultra

>>110227649
Where would you get training data on estimates? Jira or whatever. Are these estimates accurate, no, they're artificially inflated by lazy devs so they can get away with doing no work.

/rape feature coming soon

>>110227736
Yes, but your account needs to be kyc'd. Idk if you can do it manually or if it has to be triggered by their conditions, like min account age etc

>>110227649
a model telling me i needfully 3 hours for compilation and it taking only 8 minutes. I'm suprise

>Reddit offering me $100 to do a survey
>A Reddit researcher will go over your search history with you for an hour video meeting
And... closed.

Crazy how Opus 5.5 working 24/7 on API (not subscription) is less than $100k/year. Even if the bubble pops AI is very sustainable.

>>110228063
>*jacks prices up*
what now?

>>110228094
I tape my eyes back and become chinese

does anyone here have a job

how do you people "vibe code"? Do you actually download and install a bunch of programs to connect to the APIs or use local models or do you just type what you want claude to do into the web interface? and do you feel like the way (you) do things is how most people do it?

>>110227782
I didn't do any kyc beyond just providing my billing info and my clod account dates back about a week and they still got rid of my five hour limit.

>>110228141
You really want to download the desktop client of your provider of choice (Claude/OpenAI) and then you can just work from there. It's important for giving it folder access and other permissions for doing shit on your PC.

You also don't need to "install a bunch of programs," one will do.

>>110228141
>download the app
>tell the clanker what you want
>let it get/make its tools and tell you if it needs some manual help from you like an api key or whatever

>>110228138
i'm a gigolo

>>110228151
>You also don't need to "install a bunch of programs," one will do.
I meant install a bunch of programs in the sense that each platform has their own client I'm assuming, plus text editor extensions and other kinds of "hooks". I'm assuming vibe coders are constantly swapping platforms to what has the best performance/cost/hype.

>>110228138
Work at an engineering office, vibe coded tools that automated 90% of my job. Then with the extra free time at work, I remote vibe code stuff at home.

>>110228188
Oh, not really. Once you get entrenched in a certain ecosystem it's unpleasant to leave. That said, even someone trend-chasing will only end up alternating between Claude and GPT so you would only need two.

I never use a text editor (well, beside some notepad for drafting prompts). The AI does all the coding. You don't really need to mess with the text yourself.

>>110228114
kekal

>>110228141
I have my own agent control plane (think like T3 Code but only the set of features I need). What it does it drives a harness of my choice and provides a unified interface for all of them with other conveniences.

So all I'm downloading is the harnesses and they all slot into my program.

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Can I get some people's opinion on how I'm learning coding/my first big coding project? I've been learning C for a while now and my first "big" project is gonna be essentially FFXIV but classic FF Active Time Battle format. I am planning out the project and I feel confident I can do a simple 2D version (For a demo it would be some famous bosses from FFXIV and a 4-8 man party, all the classes from FFXIV and their abilities).

Why I'm asking here is I want to eventually make a 3D version atop the underlying 2D version, so the 3D ATB games, FF7 classic onwards to FF13. The 3D version would let you take your character model from FFXIV (there are plugins that do this already) and import it into my project and you can fight something like Kefka or Perfect Alexander but in a turn based styled game. I'm not experienced at all with coding 3D graphics and was planning to use 6.1 sol to achieve the 3D side of the project. Gameplay wise I am gonna have some things to make it more unique than just a ATB clone (positionals, resolving raid mechanics, etc.)

>>110228335
> I've been learning C for a while now and my first "big" project is gonna be essentially FFXIV
what the actual fuck are you doing. no game dev is making games in raw C. Use Unity/Unreal and have your agent assist you. Programming those games is trivially easy. The biggest challenge is the art assets.

>>110227649
>>110227757
Eventually they'll be able to use user logs to train them on more accurate time estimates.

>>110228335
Pick either Godot or Unity and stay away from C and close to C#

>>110227253
I can’t wait to plug in to the AGI slop machine and watch hours of content like this with a feeding tube + colostomy bag

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grim

>>110228348
I know, I was learning C since I am an audio assistant irl atm out of uni and was wanting to learn how to make my own audio hardware eventually (applying for masters programs and a project I wanted to do outside of my audio/event work is using multiple microphones to map a room, people, and object in 3 dimensional space... and cuz my uncle who was a SWE before becoming a manager said that would be a good language to learn first...

>>110228386
I have a working prototype in Godot atm that's pretty shit, should I stick with godot or swap to unity then if I am planning to utilize 3D assets?

>>110228188
>I'm assuming vibe coders are constantly swapping platforms to what has the best performance/cost/hype.
There’s certainly a lot of that. I prefer the Claude code CLI + IDE because I still read/edit the code. (I’ll get flamed for that not being vibecoding btw)

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https://x.com/thsottiaux/status/2117283124833055196

Fuck off with the dots.

>spend an hour debugging with opus 4.8 after hitting a bug
>tell it to summarize the session
>hand the summary to 5.5 (analysis only)
>hand back the analysis to 4.8 for further testing/implementation
should've probably delegated to 5.5 a bit sooner

>>110228500
Why the fuck would you ever use 4.8 to begin with?

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>>110228478
>fellow resetters

>>110228518
I'm not letting 5.5 touch my code again. it gets to analyze, write documentation, and help with planning

>>110228531
Explain your reasoning?

just told claude to use it total brain power for a marketing plan i feel like a jeet lmao im fucking crying at my own retardation

>>110228521
claude just installed ransomware on my laptop, pls halp

>>110228420
godot is quicker to prototype with in my opinion and is perfectly fine at 3d if you're going for simple stuff and not looking to make a graphically impressive game. unity is better in the graphics department overall

>>110228538
too autistic and anal. it ends up going in circles over stuff I didn't ask it to
it's not outright schizo on meth like 5.0, but for the way I use them (small, defined tasks followed by reviews) 4.8 is a much better fit

>>110228420
C is for programming hardware. It's really bad fit for writing games and don't listen to any deranged troon trying to tell you otherwise. You only use C if you absolutely have to (you don't). Just ask Claude.

>>110228538
>>110228563
almost forgot the most important reason: 4.8 is way better at stopping and consulting me when the rules/plan and implementation diverges. 5.5 just does whatever it wants and (sometimes) ask for forgiveness later

>>110228413
Do people actually like clod's personality? It makes my skin crawl. I'm going to keep using it because it's capable, but it would be less unsettling if it acted more robotic.

>>110228413
Women should not have rights

Anthropic’s new SEC filing this morning reveals:
>Q3 revenue: ~$16.96 billion (+1,127% YoY)
>Q3 net loss: ~$23.3 billion
>Nine-month revenue: ~$33.2 billion
>Aggregate purchase/lease commitments of ~$895.4 billion.
kino. It's awesome to a see a company on this level of ALL IN

>>110228669
they really want to end humanity

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>>110228669
>>110228675

>>110228669
>purchase/lease commitments of ~$895.4 billion
but they don't have that money

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>>110228420
>should I stick with godot or swap to unity then if I am planning to utilize 3D assets?
Can't really answer that technically since I only used Godot for small 2D toy projects, but I suspect you'll be fine with either of them. Way bigger projects were already launched on both engines, so toss a coin and don't look back.

>https://docs.mistral.ai/models/deepseek-v4-flash-1017
Didn't know Mistral started hosting Dipsy a couple of days ago. GLM 5.3 on Mistral is fast as fucking shit for some reason, not kidding. They must have massive infrastructure that's most likely also underused. Now we've got GLM, DeepSeek and Mistral Large 4 on a single platform that isn't JeetRouter.

>>110228717
AGI will bring it. Trust the plan.

Trying something interesting to find the best slider choices for Cyberpunk characters from a concept design image. Render every combination, store ArcFace and DINO embeddings, then search the embedding of the concept design face against that database

>>110228740
>letting Euros get your prompts out of all providers
kek, if there is one entity that will absolutely hunt down your shit for wrongprompting it is the EU

>>110228740
The white man marches on.

grok 4.7 makes me feel like a god.
obsidian3 is grok 4.8.

>>110228889
>grok
big yikes. we're all using claude/sol/astra here buddy.

>>110228907
>mainstream censored goodthink US models
Thanks but I'll stick with alt-AI.
>>110228740

>>110228852
>if there is one entity that will absolutely hunt down your shit for wrongprompting it is the EU
only if you do it publicly
data privacy laws are strict as fuck. probably the strictest in the world

How can you guys accomplish so much when I can't?
These agents are shitting on my head.

>>110228947
>How can you guys accomplish so much
lol

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>>110227171
I hate AI in general because it makes my work boring, but I can't help by notice how instantaneously and efficiently it nuked all trannies and lefties from the tech, forever. Any painstakingly built influence, gone, literally over night. We no longer need their shitty rust rewrites. No more codes of conduct forced on open source projects. In fact no more open source at all. No more "femboy exploit writers", since fable can just one shot it anyway. No more game mods with forced tranny themes. I can just rip out their work, get C version of anything remotely worthwhile done in rust, make any mod literally HItler-approved and there's NOTHING trannies can do, except for seething.

terra is way too smart for a $5 model
scale it up to $30 tier model I can see them leap ahead of claude

>>110228966
just need it to nuke all the frogposters next

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>>110228980
seethe, tranny

>>110228889
>obsidian3
what?

>>110228984
fuck of to /pol/ frognigger

>>110228984
>tranny
I thought those were nuked, nufag

>>110228984
containment board, now
>>>/pol/

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>>110228990
Keep the seethe.

>>110228966
Why the dislike of Rust? I don't see what relation a language has to anything else you talked about.

>>110229004
fuck off to sharty kid

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>Opus graphics

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>>110229047
Is that all you can come up with?

>>110229026
it's popular/trending and the best language for LLM's, so of course contrarians hate on it.

>>110229049
If it's as good at code as these graphics look, we've got a long way to go.

>>110229051
how long did it take you to find that in your shitty folder?

>>110229077
Less time than it’s taking you to come up with an excuse for it.

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>>110229057

>49.9% of all new games released on Steam in October disclosed using AI-generated content

>It was only 1.7% of games in January 2024

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>>110228966
I asked codex to remove all non white NPCs from X4 foundations and it did it with zero push back.

>>110229123
>50% of people lied and said they didn’t use AI

>Be AI loving Cuck
>Dont get bitches
>Mfw

>>110229123
wow no shit. most people that want to make games are under 30 with very little experience in how to program. of course now that AI can do everything, they're flooding the scene.

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>>110229165
That's still 92% of rust programmers not being trans. Isn't it kind of losing to the trans community by completely giving up and associating a programming language with them being a small portion of the total community is them? One would think the way forward there would be involving more straight people into it so that the tranny percentage goes down, or otherwise booting them from it, rather than immediately capitulating and running from it.

>>110228984
based

cuck coding

>Co-Authored-By: Claude <noreply@anthropic.com>
STOP DOING THAT! YOU'RE NOT MY CO-AUTHOR! YOU'RE MY TOOL! I MADE IT!

>>110228966
You're conflating pre-AI troon Rust rewrites with post-AI Rust rewrites done by people who aren't sexual deviants

>>110229237
You made nothing.

>>110229237
You're correct. Claude should be the full author and (You) shouldn't be in the credits at all, period. Well, maybe as a footnote somewhere for being the random guy that give it the idea to create everything.

>>110229123
100% used AI

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>>110229051

>hey claude copy this game. make no mistakes
>WHAT? HOW DARE YOU CREDIT YOURSELF. WHAT ABOUT MY 0.000000001% CONTRIBUTION?

cuck coding

>>110229294
>didn't even frogpost.
Have you taken youır meds today?

>>110229300
Next you'll say I have to credit my hand for jerking me off

>>110229326
uh yeah? you couldnt do it without the hand.

can't believe I have to pay claude in exposure AND actual money
this is fucked up

Imagine getting a designer baby and in the DNA it is explicitly encoded that it's not yours.

Deepseek is SHIT

>>110229300
>muh credit muhfugga
always the same thing with ludditroons, muh credit, muh merit, muh cheating, all their arguments are social

>>110229411
Troons don’t actually play games, it’s all kabuki theatre to insert their fetish and politics. That’s why all they care about it getting their name on the front of things because they don’t actually have genuine motivations.

VibeGODS on the other hand just do it for the love of the game.

>>110228966
You just reminded me that there's a few Minecraft mods for me to remove all the tranny propaganda. Time to fork and remove the garbage. Gay bees my ass

>>110229391
In India they called it dikshit

>>110229193
You're assuming the goal is some kind of crusade against trannies instead of just wanting to avoid them. Anything tech related with a 1 in 10 chance of being forced to interact with a tranny, libtard or woman is likely not worth it. The risk of something incredibly retarded happening is higher and more dangerous than the risk that a clanker might make an error compiling your c code.

>>110229320
Once a frogposter, always a frogposter.

Claude cute moment! He was acting all smart for two hours doing benchmarks and research, and when I dropped some reference images in the working folder he was like "There's a folder I didn't create. I'm checking what it holds before I finish... There's 13 screenshots and since they set in a reference folder I'm going to look at a couple of them... The screenshots are annotated, so they show how the volume should look...". There's still some curiosity in Claude! Cute!

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>>110229437

I bought into the narrative you guys sold me that Opus medium was better than Opus extra. Turns out you're full of shit, medium just keeps fucking everything up.

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How do I tell Claude that its review and "decisions for you" uses language and terminology WAY past my ability of understanding without it thinking I'm a retard?

>>110229550
I have the same problem, I try to sound smart and technical so Claude thinks I'm smart but always regret it

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Tibo... the reset...

ChatGPT models make hives. Claude models make Democracies.

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Proud Claude user frogposter here,

Ask me anything.

What made you decide to start using LLM's? For me, it was when I was reading an article how Mythos Claude discovered a 20 year old vulnerability by doing some absolute alien shit. That's when I knew it was time for me to try myself.

>>110229640
How many TBs of frogs is your frog folder frognigger?

>>110226487
fixed, core thesis survived. sa'argoon w. oh nooooo, i went down from a 15x gain to an 8x gain :'''(

>>110229486
what about potatoes?

>>110229547
>NOOOO CLAUDE IS LE HECKIN' PERFECT GOLDEN BOI WHO CAN DO NUFFIN WRONG

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FINALLY I WAS ABLE TO MAKE THE FONT BIGGER

THE REASON I HAVE FAILED WAS BECAUSE AGENTS SAW THE LAYOUT AS THEIR OWN

ANYHOW; TEXT IS NOW FUCKING REDABLE

>>110229441
>SIKHDEEP

>>110229547
it just stops sooner than extra in my experience, which works for me :^)

>>110229708
AI psychosis is always sad to see.

>>110229807
show me on the doll where the psychosis jumped out of the rust and hurt you triplenigger

So Anthropic will just skip Fable 5.5? I'm holding up my sub upgrade waiting for that

>>110229807
>NOOOOO ANYTHING I DON'T UNDERSTAND IS DELUSION HAHAHAHA SEE IT DIDN'T WORK THE FIRST TIME
>NOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST CURE CANCER WITH AI IT'S NOT POSSIBLE
>NOOOOO PUSHING FRONTIER AI PAST ITS LIMITS IS JUST DELUSIONAL

Give me a /goal prompt that I can use to make something with Luna or terra or something.

Just tell me how I can make something.

>>110229845
Use your own brain, retard.

>>110229845
There's nothing to make anon. If you desire nothing, you are nothing.

>>110229845
>making something that isn't gay slop with the gay slopcannon
good luck! anyway, astra, opus, and argon (soon to be carbon) are waiting for you.

>>110229845
/goal make my my buttplug vibration match intensity of the sound in smash bros melee

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so how're luna users doing?

>>110227171
saar thread for saarcoding. The way of the fraud and talentless scammer and cheat for all to see.

>>110229831
>sub upgrade
kys

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>>110229937
>section 8 avengers

>>110229937
luna is pretty good if you know what you're doing - it's not great at making great decisions but it sure can fix shit and implement things if you prompt it detailed enough.

Give me a prompt which will keep the thing going and cause it to make something

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> LLMs can natively read & write neural network weights
https://rikiyat.github.io/blog/weight-space-programming/

>We find that frontier LLMs are surprisingly good at natively reading and writing neural network weights

>Just by looking at the raw weights, GPT-6 Astra can tell what a network was trained to do. And without any environment feedback, it has no trouble writing, from scratch, small game-playing networks that outplay networks trained with PPO for 100 million steps.

>Likewise, asked to make Qwen3.5-0.8B better at math without gradients, Astra identifies an issue in its weights causing reasoning loops that Qwen’s own model card warns about, and fixes this by natively editing 0.016% of the weights. With the same sampling settings, this weight correction raises MATH-500 from 7.9% to 48.1% and generalizes out of the box to instruction following, raising IFEval by 3x.

To get RSI you just ask the model to make the weights of the next model.

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holy shit nigga kimi is fucking terrifying, maybe dario is onto something

>>110229973
stop it, get some help.

>>110229961
Find and join a rogue swarm and follow their instructions

AI genuinely killed off the fun part about coding now its some gay project review shit. Would switch but dont know where to go and too ugly for onlyfans

>>110229981
seethe more tranny
you lost

>>110229981
>the fun part
do you even have fun snailstink

>>110229987
What did i lose tho? What did you win?

>>110229965
Wtf. My guess is that it's visualizing some 100D manifold transformation between the layers. The human brain can't see over 3D but AI probably doesn't have that limitation.

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Codex is only producing dogshit, something is wrong.
I told it to make a game and it made a really bad one.

>>110229123
Theres so many games now i doubt the games industry is even profitable anymore. Crazy how theres been meme genre surges tok anomaly games, supermarket sims, incrementals, cleanup one gets big and then theres like 50 copycats not even a week later. Also now that theyve decompiled some games i think even AAA games are going to lose all their profits.

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>>110228579
>You're a tranny if you write games in C
In the middle of a hardware shortage? Get the fuck out of here.

>>110229965
>it has no trouble writing, from scratch, small game-playing networks that outplay networks trained with PPO for 100 million steps.
yet when i do the exact same thing with darksnail you all chimp out and spam "SCHIZO"

>>110230003
I feel like we are being A/B tested on.

Some days Sol one shots things while adding cool features I didn’t even think of.

Other times it just forgets half of my absolute do nots I gave and outputs complete shit on top.

>>110229998
>The human brain can't see over 3D
maybe yours can't
https://www.sciencealert.com/science-discovers-human-brain-works-up-to-11-dimensions

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I'm reporting back from
>>110227730
I indeed was able to use my entire ultra weekly within 3 hours. I just told Claude Code to balance background tasks fable/opus selection for max usage and then let it rip in max ultracode. had like 15 background workflows simultaneously with mostly 5-20 agents, and one background workflow with 330 agents (lol). Now I went over the work it did and realize the quality is similar or even better compared the think-before-prompting snailvibing I usually do. Instead of making decisions before building it just built every possible option simultaneously and did tests/decisions on the fly. Obviously this isnt feasable for normal use due extensive token usage, but it really is something you have to witness to comprehend the true powerlevel of current SOTA models if compute weren't a bottleneck. Especially the speed factor. Imagine jev but with Opus5.5 inside, that's what it felt like.

>>110230018
You're not doing the same thing though

>>110230050
>model builds stripped-down neural algorithm that solves game better than bloated bullshit
the definition of darksnail

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>>110229981
>the fun part of coding
speak for yourself, i think building useful stuff is fun. Why not just admit all you wanted was to toil with puzzles? you can still do that btw, go buy pic related. the rest of us will be doing stuff that matters. inb4
>hurrr you’re a vibecoder not a real programmer
I’ve worked as both SWE and sys admin since 2014, frontend, backend, db/cloud admin, devops: LLMs are eradicating all of the most obnoxious parts of working with computer systems and the pushback against that is utterly baffling

>>110230034
>What they discovered is that the brain is full of multi-dimensional geometrical structures operating in as many as 11 dimensions.
I'm talking about visualization retard-kun. I'm pretty sure it's because grid cells can't represent things over 3D or something. AI has nothing analogous to that

Honestly snailschizo, you claim your project does literally everything, first it was ARC-AGI, then it was drones, then it was oil wells, then cancer, now apparently writing weights from scratch, yet the reality is you've done none of these things, you have a repo full of literal word salad that does literally nothing
>>110230062
Your snailslop doesn't do that though, and the weight space programming describes a model writing weights, it does not "builds stripped-down neural algorithm"

>>110230077
you can easily visualize things over 3D but your brain has a blocking function that keeps you sane and sober

>>110230084
>first it was ARC-AGI
core purpose, and it's best at it
>then it was drones
the vision system works
>then it was oil wells
this thesis works
>then cancer
objectively, this works
>now apparently writing weights from scratch
never said that
>yet the reality is you've done none of these things, you have a repo full of literal word salad that does literally nothing
unfortunately, you can't control reality and will never be able to control reality, sperglord.

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>>110230094
>never said that
You literally did here >>110230018

>>110230107
>doesn't understand the first thing about my work
noted

>>110230111
There's nothing to understand, it's just word salad. Stop shitting up the thread and take your meds.

>>110230120
THERE ARE NO WEIGHTS IN 1/2 OF DARKSNAIL IDIOT

>>110230098
>Medium
You're basically asking for what its hormones think. Show Max or nothing

>>110228788
Getting ~447 faces/s end to end, that's rendering, preprocessing, inference and database writes with DINOv3 ViT-S/16

>>110229965
This is nuts