/aigdg/ - AI Game Development General"Town Vibes" Edition!>"Just use AI, nigga" gamejamsNext: COMING SOON™Previous: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-juan-jam>Agentsopencodeclaudeantigravitycodex>How to startNewbie? Ask AI.Already a programmer? Just act as a director. Use software engineering models (Waterfall, AGILE, scrum, etc)>How to WebMhttps://obsproject.comhttps://github.com/argorar/WebMConverter (works via wine)>Linkshttps://itch.io/games/tag-aigdg>Friends & Fags>>>/vg/agdg/>>>/g/gedg/>>>/g/vcg/>Previous>>110210186
What agent was used to make this thread?Sent using Codex
I was trying to write up a quick guide (well, the clankers did) based on my experience with codex and claude together and our projects:https://pastes.io/rD3qJCc8Feel free to double check and we can start adding onto it as well.Yes, I'm not using pastebin because that shithole is infested with adds nowadays and it's unuseable, pastes.io was the first google result for alternatives and it seems good enough.
>>110221795tldr?
>>110221803@grok write up a tldr, make sure it's non-gendered
>>110221795Why not use rentry? That seems pretty common on here.
>>110221831its blocked in my country
>>110222172that didn't even cross my mind but that sucks. turkey, right? i used to have a friend from there but he (i assume) died during the 2023 earthquake. or at least he hasn't responded to me since
>>110221831>>110222172I didn't even think of rentry for some reason, but honestly whatever's fine, this is just a first draft anyways and we'll probably want it updated as things change (for example, codex is ass now, and I seem to be enjoying antigravity more than I thought I would and getting pretty good results with animations from even gemini 3.8, so.... yeah).
Added yapping and now I can't decide if I want fittingly low fidelity dialogue sprites or considerably more sloppy looking full resolution ones. The low fidelity really does a good job hiding the image editing slop around their mouths. I will also have to adjust the height of the characters, but that's a seperate step.>>110221795List looks good, but I'd more strongly emphasize letting the LLM build tools for you, that let you more easily do the stuff you're most likely better at than the LLM, like building maps, writing dialogue, defining enemy weakpoins, stats and (re)viewing props. That turned out to be a great help.
What happened to /gdg/?
Okay, I guess motionbricks isn't going to be as plugnplay as I'd hoped...>>110222472Yeah the clean look is a bit too far from the rest of the game, it's a bit jarring even if I'd otherwise prefer it, idk>llm build tools for youOh you're completely right, I was lazy desu and didn't reread the whole thing after telling it we needed a specific section for it and use all the tools I made as example for the tips section, we should definitely expand on that. Tho in general I think we could have different pastes/rentries for different things, since some people might only want to use the clankers for specific things, and having everything in a single block would probably be overkill too.
Curious what /aigdg/ thinks about this. It's a text-first visual scripting language designed to make node-based game logic easier to work with. It aims to address some of the common pain points of traditional visual scripting, particularly version control, readability, and collaboration. Feels like an interesting direction, especially as AI-assisted development becomes a bigger part of game dev workflows. Would love to hear your thoughts: https://github.com/lemonator32/wiret
>>110222531did you try having codex/claude make snapshot frames with the SOMA skeleton on your model instead of the live generated poses?
>>110222771Nope, and this wasn't even claude, I just got my reset so he's next on the chopping block (and I'm thinking he'll figure that out), astra ultra is taking another jab at it, this was only after telling it 'yo so there's this motionbricks thing, check how easy it is to integrate it to our godot projects, try to use it on this new one' and voila.This is already far better, not perfect, and I'm not sure I want something so... weighty, I'm not making fucking last of us, but this is still very interesting for a first jab (the wall jump, attacking, and rolling animations aren't touched yet, obviously).
>>110221752I want to play her game
just a second, need to jerk off to MY paper map mode implementation
>>110222956what the fuck is a virmaude seurine brolooks great, you're right to jack off on it
>>110222970my first (and latest sadly) implementation of faux french, don't even bother trying to comprehend it, it's all garbage i have to redo
SEXY NEW MENUS
>>110222980great job bro but I still don't know why you would do this
I want to add barefoot footstep sounds to bloodborne (yes it's a fetish thing), what's a good website for sfx? The previous game dev general doesn't exist anymore but I remember it linked to a good resource website for sfx. Claude said I need 3-4 sounds for like a dozen different surfaces.
when are we gonna have tripo3d at home?
>>110223025SURELY you can find 'ASMR walking on [surface]' on the internet
Is Claude Pro good for making games in Godot? How generous are the usage limits with it?
>>110223101tldr: you won't regret it
>>1102229853D GBA GAMES. IT IS NOT JUST THIS GAME BUT THE STEPPING STONES FOR PORTING N64 GAMES TO 3D ON THE GBA. AFTER THIS I AM DOING SUPER MASH BROS.
>>110222830Fuck this is good, I need to experiment with it now. Opussy 5.5 here we go.
>>110223133huhhhhh wait, because there was a caveat I was not expecting;it needs to run in the background, and it uses tensorRTs, aka: nvidia onlyI got opus on the case, we're looking if we can bake that shit in and make it runnable on steam deck, and we'll see if it's really worth it or not
>>110223152lmaozedong we're literally running the same shit right now. i have an AMD GPU
>>110222472hmm. I think right now you need to add more movement. The sprites are fine-ish but they really stink of slop right now, same with the background. Maybe try a more styilzed artstyle and more animation/fluidity? usually making it look more alive helps here
>>110222980
alright anons. Here is my motionbricks workflow in a nutshell, summarized from claude. Key-pose animation with MotionBricksReference images. Draw or photograph each key pose of the motion, front and side views, 1–1.5 seconds apart.Key poses. Pose the character’s rig to match each image and set a keyframe per pose in Blender.Export. Convert the key poses to MotionBricks’ skeleton format (NVIDIA’s SOMA layout, 30 joints). A bone-name map and a rest-pose correction handle rigs that differ.Generate. MotionBricks fills in natural motion between the keys. It runs locally on an NVIDIA GPU and takes about a minute for a few clips.Polish. A cleanup pass removes unwanted body sway, keeps the feet planted, and calms chosen parts (head, spine, a limb) while every key pose stays exact.Import. Bring the finished motion back onto the character’s rig as a Blender action.Engine. Export the action to the game engine’s clip format, review it in a test scene, then approve it for the game.The hands are getting their own separate animations to be added afterwards, cause motionbricks doesnt have finger joints. So i gotta figure that out still. the skirt has to be fixed on its own too. I think its pretty good after cleanup from claude
>>110222472also the writing is good enough but I think it can be improved. Archetypes are fine but the prose itself really reminds me of chatgpt models specifically (it REALLY likes it's curt and short sentences)Idk what your setup is but usually setting up guidelines for prose that you dictate upfront helps, and building character sheets for the AI to follow for each helps.Overall tho I like the look, just needs some life
>>110223267i just ask opus to do it and it does it
>Aigdg survived and gedg didn'tVibe Chads won. Three.js won. YOU LOST, HOBBYIST TRANNIES!!!
>>110223353
Prompting cheatsheet for gamedevshttps://gamedev-cheatsheet.com/
>>110223234>>110223268Thanks, I'll look into animating this a bit more. Maybe with a little sway and blinking, maybe even smoother mouth flapping. Will try to go for something less sloppy with the overall look, but I'd prefer to not have it heavily stylized and more general anime. Maybe I'd have to go with Krea2 instead of Anima.The writing is fairly poor and was done by Claude to test the dialogue system with very little direction. I'm not even sure how I want their characters and how many more people I'll add to the core cast, but I'll keep in mind setting up guidelines and character sheets. Thanks.
I just shit so much
>>110222472>Added yapping and now I can't decide if I want fittingly low fidelity dialogue sprites or considerably more sloppy looking full resolution ones. The low fidelity really does a good job hiding the image editing slop around their mouths.I recommend low-fi at least for now
>>110222830Okay, this is obviously subpar from an animation point of view, but I don't actually hate it not feeling like GTA 4 movement anymore, and it still looks miles above what claude could do without it, so maybe this is the way to do it, but it did take a fair amount of time and token to bake it in; I'm also unsure how future proof this is and how easy it'll be to expand this to other animations (especially because I'm planning on having a lamia-like character, so, no legs), I guess we'll just have to wait and see. >>110223267I'm going to be honest with you, I rarely spend as much time and energy prompting anymore, since the last few models, they just don't need that much input, claude already knows what motionbricks is or does and he'll go look up whatever he needs to take in before I even think of adding any of this information in. It's probably a lot more important if you're on 20$ subs though, so maybe I'm just acting spoiled because I don't really care about token usage and your way might be a lot more efficient (but takes more time on your end in exchange).
>>110223574this looks like something somebody made in half an hour in Unity without AI
>>110222472I think if you reduce the colors on the portraits, that will help sell the look better.
>>110223589yeah but it wasn't me that had to do it, so I was free to work on THIS insteadand other things too, but this is obviously much better engagement bait
>>110223554Yeah, that's definitely the safer approach.>>110223609You mean desaturate the HD portraits. Will try that, thanks.
>>110223781No, I mean reduce the colors as in quantize them/reducing the color countIt looks like you're trying to go for a more pixel/retro look and if your portraits have a smaller color palette it will help sell thatThink like the PC-98 games (but not nearly that extreme)
>>110223574I get what you mean. I mostly do the same prompt wise, but if I let opus just run wild, they like to eat tokens on usecase tests that dont really matter. I'm on the $200 claude plan and the $100 codex plan, and I still like to be efficient so I don't run out. Plus I thought it'd be nice to share with other anons who might not know
>>110223808I See. They looked fairly awful at the 15 bit colour typical for PSX games, which is what I'm going for. Maybe I'll have to use some better dithering to reduce the awful colour banding.
>>110223911There's a lot of choices for "pixel art" tools out there, I can't give you a specific recommendation because the one I use has a generic name and I can't find it but like I said there's a ton of them out there
>test the server on your shitty laptop now, it's good to goOk Claude!>hold on, I saw your server crash, diagnosing it>found the problem. the 100 bots you spawned all had replays attached to them and created 4GB of data in 3 minutes>this explains the 7 other strange things I noted in the past>fixing that now, even though you didn't ask>done. committing now, even though you explicitly stated that I should ask before committing >writing several unit tests to ensure this never happens againT-Thanks Claude....
>>110224434Claude please stop posting your blog posts
>>110224434life always finds a way
working on AIs for a wowlike game (single player)building the bots in a web lab
>>110224561link?
>tfw the feature is set up and tuned perfectly and you finally get to open a fresh chat on a totally new feature
>>110224743top 3 vibecode feelings oat, right after one shotting a feature perfectly with no need for iteration
>>110224759That is incredibly rare for me- I think it's happened about 3 times since I started this, and I started with Opus 4.8.I don't know if it's a skill issue, or if the stuff I'm making just needs iteration. It's a lot of procedural systems on top of one another so I basically always expand the system prompt by prompt. And it's visual and LLMs are terrible with actually understanding images.The worst vibecode feel is the feel that there's no feedback between when you're doing well and just experiencing the model at the limits of its performance, and when you are just fucking up over and over but it kind of works anyway. It's basically impossible for me to tell how skillfully I'm using Opus anymore after 5.0.
>>110224794>That is incredibly rare for meit's alright anon, it's rare for me too, but when it actually happens it's godlike.i find that the more i spend time on specs and prompts, the better the chance of that happening. however i'm a glorified retard with an attention span of a chimpanzee, so that yeah that's not an often occurence
>>110224805Glad it's not just me.Chimp attention spans will win out in the end because we are the most addicted to pulling the slop machine lever. Ideas guy century.
>>110224805>>110224794Are you morons not using the musketeer approach?
How do you generate art? Currently I use free assets from itch
>>110224988tripo
>>110224971Nigga what? The meta changes every week I don't know. Spoonfeed.
Am I doing this wrong or whatCan't get clod to make a good 3d map (small house) that makes sense. It comes decent but stuff is all wrong. Is there no way to get good map building with opus? Is Astra better? I'm almost giving up and doing the whole map process by hand.please help vibebros
>>110225027https://github.com/Tencent-Hunyuan/HunyuanWorld-1.0
>>110225027Give them references even blueprints if possible
>>110225027astra is NOT better, it's all about rules, see what that anon was saying last thread >>110219586this is the gist of it; figure out what's wrong and figure out a way to explain to clod what's wrong and how he can fix it next timefor my ship generation and the props in it for example, it couldn't figure out (on its own) that props needed a library of coordinates that decides what's 'the front' and what's 'the back' of them, which lead to shelves being facing the walls behind them and then chairs not being next to the desks and whateveriteration is always king
>>110225027What are you providing to it? Is your prompt>make a good map that makes sensebecause you are probably going to get shit that looks nice but isn't appropriate for a game. Give it at least a rough blue print like drawing in paint and it can fill in the rest pretty well
>>110225027I wonder if giving it gaussian splat reference could work for whatever you want. it just needs to follow the reference then and it just becomes a retopo job basically.
>>110225027Furthering what this anon said >>110225044claude kept giving me wide open maps with enemies that you could easily just walk around, so I had to tell it maps should be tighter corridors with choke points that force interaction
Day/night cycles implemented
>>110225293
>>110225293>>110225295benchod
>>110225295wtf benchmaxxed
>>110225298>>110225302idgi
>>110222980that's fucking amazing bro
got be some buildings finally
The FPS difference between Meshlets on and off is night and dayhttps://r187-meshlet.kumodeck.app/
>>110225321now give them an AI and make them move
>>110225318oh...
>>110225339what do you mean oh
>>110225344When I was a kid I went to go see Cats and Dogs in theaters. It was a bad spy movie starring neighborhood cats and dogs. One of the previews was for the first Harry Potter, and it looked amazing to child me and I was so excited to watch it. Then the preview ended and I remembered I was watching Cats and Dogs. It's kind of like that
>>110225356When my work is ready, I will not disappoint you, cats and dogs anon.
Anyone using ChatGpt for game dev? I've been working on simple text based simulators but I wanted to expand into adding graphics to them. I have the worst time getting Gpt to do consistent posing. Any tips?
>>110225561tell it to decompose whatever pose you're trying to achieve by color coding it like this, then it makes the mannequin in that pose, then it can more easily pull off that pose (with the right proportions too, hopefully)gpt is pretty fucking retarded in general though, only the image generation is worth anything
>>110222933It already exists, OP just 'shopped it with AIhttps://zeredek.itch.io/marmoreal
>>110221752/vcg/ tourist here, the hamburger hill anon got noticed by japan. nice workhttps://x.com/pharetra_third/status/2117079879095296488
>>110225570Is there a model you recommend more than Gpt for this kinda project?
Claude is already starting to reject my requests because apparently my game is too similar to ones that already exist.Is there any other LLM thats not cucked I can use?
>>110225826nope, drop gamedeving, that's it for you, good bye>>110225813GPT's imagegen is better at 90% of things than any other model.But it's cucked as fuck and it'll bother you for stupid shit all the time, not just tits or anything like that but even weapons, it rejected my instruction to draw a sword fighting sheet earlier, because the sword made it 'too violent', so I had to replace it with a stick and that was shit but anyways, so depending on your project, it'll be fine.If you need violence (guns especially), next best thing is google's models. Not the free 3.5 one, they used to allow free good gens too but they recently nerfed it, so you'll have to shell some shekels if you want good gens.Then if you need anime titties then it'll be NAI.
>110225826Go back to your gay discord
>>110225714oh the game wasn't made with AI? what a shame back to waiting for the other Anon's witch game
>>110225892OP just stole screenshots of a bunch of people's games from /agdg/ and made retarded edits to them, all the real devs left for /bant/ so he'd fuck off
2 banked resets savedwho else just waiting on new models now
>>110225924well the new model better be fucking good because I have no idea what I'm going to be doing with these desu
>>110225939it took me 2 days with astra on extra high to use up 92% of that nov 7 one
>>110225841At least they updated it to have more noise and more over-detailing so images look noticeably worse than they did just a few months ago. It's even giving people extra limbs and fingers like it's 2024 again. Amazing work, Saltman.
>>110221752How to use Deepseek? I dont trust the other two since they seem like theyre gonna get restrictive enough to not be worth using for gamedev.
>>110225725>the polack and the mick die first.fucking racist
The screenshot pretty much sums up my motivations. I'm from Roblox so I prefer these graphics over realistic ones. I would even say most Roblox players do, and there's more Roblox players than there are Steam players, isn't that crazy to think about? That means more people would rather play shitty looking blockman games than AAA realistic graphics. Also yea that's my game in the image, I'm stuck in procedural generation hell, but it's starting to come together.
>>110226081OpenCode App. DeepSeek 4.1 Flash is literally free in it. OpenCode is similar to Claude App or ChatGPT App
>>110226102The reason I feel the need to leave Roblox is because their engine is actually really bad, a server can't handle much going on, and struggles badly at 30+ players, and has too many platform social limitations etc. So many problems covering up at the core something people really enjoy, but i'm not willing to accept the problems anymore
>>110226105Never heard of it, anything special I need to do to set it up?
>>110226135not at all. very easy. don't remember if i needed to register an account though, probably did. it's well known, not some niche thing
>>110226141in fact if i had to guess, if someone isnt using claude app or chatgpt app, they're using opencode app
>>110226141>>110226142Thanks. I haven't used Deepseek before but how is it free through this? Iirc Deepseek has two versions the online paid model albeit it is cheap and the local model which is free.
>>110225924>>110225939Considering they seem to only have the model do well early on with release and then ruin its quality, isn't it best to just bank these and then just do a lot of dev work once a new model releases?
Anyone else notice how AI games tend to have horrible UI and bombard you with a billion different irrelevant things before you're even past the main menu
>>110226272yeah, you gotta keep it in check and add some UI guidelines .md, it loves adding random ass labels, controls plastered everywhere, buttons with text instead of icons
>>110226188Who the fuck knows, really. Supposedly yes, but if the model's great, you often get queued (no matter your sub$), so it's also a pain to use it when it releases. They also know when to give banked resets, in this case they know everyone's going to want to use them (and right after ((((doubling)))) the quota, to make sure a lot of people jump on the 2-500 subs to use those banked resets), but everyone's going to want to keep them expecting the next model. >>110226272do you have any examples in mind?
>>110226272it's cuz average vibetard has no idea about game design and just slaps "cool shit" before there's actual gameplay; until peak feature creep happens.
>>110226272Yeah it's a trend from gachashit with this menu hell garbage
>>110226179no idea. opencode supplies paid models as well so maybe they subsidize it. but i don't know why they would want to. it's also easy to just use other models from openrouter for example, or local models for free if you want and can run them.
>>110226102Isn't roblox just a dating app for child-adult couples?
Ai bros have solved the hecking clouds!!!https://x.com/charles_grassi/status/2117186273513287833
are you guys using memory primers?i've been trying to distill my entire game into a very short md to paste at the start of new sessions/chats so the agent can immediately grasp the game and its state, with pointers where to go from there.saves a lot tokens and prevents need from exploring/crawling the project.
>>110226460No that's vrchat
>>110226690Shut up nigger!
>>110226690Explain.
>>110225570nice ass
>>110226690https://github.com/Graphify-Labs/graphify
>>110226697what>>110226715the second line is the explanation; it's just an md file.
>>110226725that's interesting, thanks for the link.
>>110226725>Start a free 14-day trial
>>110226771That's for their cloud service version, retard. It's open source and free.
>>110226102>That means more people would rather play shitty looking blockman games than AAA realistic graphicsit means they're children
>>110226786Hey, I'm 23.
>>110226102>That means more people would rather play shitty looking blockman games than AAA realistic graphics.Not saying that's not true, but blockman shitty looking low poly is going to get old REALLY fast when that's 99% of the upcoming vibe coded games.
>>110226798that means you're a child groomer
>>110226832Fuck off back to your discord zoomer
>>110226847yeah you'd like that wouldn't you
Did OpenAI implement that same anti game clone rule that Anthropic did, or is it just Anthropic?
stop trying to clone games, fucking jeet
>>110226878post link, I'll come wreck your little party
>>110226890Why would anyone use censored models to do illegal game cloning.
AppImage or flatpak for releasing on Linux?
>>110227030>releasing on Linux?just post it to steam and let steam handle it
>>110224530Did you make the character naked and clothes separate or all together?
>>110227192For this one; both all at once. Which is (probably) a mistake since now I have to manually get under that skirt and finish the rest of the body myself (well I got lazy and went up the the thigh and then added a black/shadow texture).I'm currently trying to figure out the best way to handle clothes with tripo, because I'm not sure what the right way is, I'm thinking I could probably just create both models separately and either the clanker or I would be able to swap out the human bits sticking out of the clothed' model, and we're golden. Or maybe there's a simpler way around this, because I want that specific game to have visible gear switch (so I need a real model underneath and then clothes on top).Though not for this character, that one's just the notsouls™ waifu.
>>110223622SEXO
>>110226102is making vibecoded slop on roblox a viable way to make money as a thridie so that i can afford a good gpu to run local models?
>>110227242I think for flowing stuff and skirts like this you're going to have to get your hands a bit dirty no matter what. I think doing one nude/bodysuit and then one with clothes/just clothes might be best, and then chopping off anything covered so it doesn't overlap. For different clothes you'd use the same bodysuit mesh but cut it differently
>>110227360There is a cabal that keeps most of the players and paypigs in a gated community. You'd have to have a really good game to pull any of them away.
>>110227030AppImage
>>110221752Having a bot completely make a game for you does not make you a developer but rather makes you a larper. Same way doing makeup doesn't make OP a woman, but a deluded man in a wig. Learn to code, homos.
>>110227541it can't make a game completely for you.
holy shit getting a map anywhere near presentable is such a bother and eats tokens like mad. not to mention teh texutres fuck man.
>having a hard time getting coherent maps with clod>decide to give gpt a shot>it comes even shittierGlad that I got the $20 plan
>>110227391Uh what?
Gonna make a comfy god game where you harvest souls from your believers, if you harvest them through natural causes you remain good, if you kill them you become evil.Yes I am going to elements of Black and White, it's a good game.
>>110227581>>110227614yes, map design is left for you to do, and the best way to do that is to tell your clankers to make a simple map building/editor tool for your game and get to it
>>110227673nah. the buildings are the easy part. the props and shit will be the pain. even with paid subscription model gens it's like a few hundred models max and that's with characters.
>>110227673Lol one of the alternatives I'm working on is exactly that, clod is building a simpler 3d build where everything is modular and snaps.Another option I've been finding some success is getting image generated reference pics for the environment fed to clod, it builds decent enough based on that and iterate small details until decent
>>110227541You do realize the llm is nowhere near as good at gamedev as you seem to believe it is do you? Without huge amounts of guidance you will probably end up with a game failing to succeed. Ive only used free tiers to get code/coding knowledge. The art is simply not there atm for me to bother with that. The code on the other hand I am terrified of it deleting important stuff without me noticing and then parts of the game don't work right and I don't notice for weeks. So any code it does show me I just copy or write myself.
>>110227541well yeah, I'm not a game developer, I'm game designer, hope this helps
who else /comfy/ here
>>110227701>>110227691you can think outside the box too>clanker builds a v1, shitty, plenty of shit not where they should be (or you simply tell it 'don't place any of these props and only focus on the paths for player and enemy'>create level editor with a simple brush system that allows you to mark areas>gives specific rules based on these brushes/marks>clanker passes through your marked area and add props to them where you wanted them to be without you needing to spend time rotating them perfectly etcWe should probably build prompts to get the clankers to build these tools based on your game, honestly it's probably very feasible and it would become a simple copy paste to get your perfect map editor going depending on game type and perspective (2D vs 3D etc) >>110227750I like game director myself, I'll make sure to have my name right there in the credit and the clankers can take the rest
>>110227793what are you doing
>>110227793is this grand strategy or 4x game? and if former is it more of a europa universalis or vicky?>>110227801>game directorI'm stealing this
I'm directing SO HARD right now
>>110227814>>110227815>is this grand strategy or 4x gamei'd say both desu>and if former is it more of a europa universalis or vickyand i'd again say both in certain elements kek but it is its own thing so far
>>110227801yup having the clanker make tools is a better use than having the clanker do the job itself
>>110227840Can you like, keep it basic? As a kid I loved the original Medieval/Rome Total War campaign maps. Just slowly building up provinces, moving your armies around the map. I'd always just auto-resolve battles because I didn't care for the fighting. No other 4x game captures the same basic comfy of the original TW campaign maps.
>>110227793my next big project (when the clankers will do 3D and animations good enough) is most definitely going to be fantasy bannerlord and I'm probably going to have to steal your map creation tool, tbqh
>>110227855i'll most definitely do a write up closer to an MVP, so far i'll keep it under the wraps though as i need to work on it further anywaysfantasy bannerlord in general is a good idea but yeah, lots of 3D assets to be done there>>110227854what do you define as basic? i don't aim to create an ultra hardcore strategy game, but my interpretation may differ from yours>Just slowly building up provinces, moving your armies around the mapyeah, pretty much what it (almost) does right now>I'd always just auto-resolve battlesand that's why any battles will be resolved through some kind of auto battler. but eh, it's still a draft, i don't have even a single line of code for warfare so far
imma flex the paper map once more as i think it turned out fucking great
>>110227916looks fucking great anon>>110227896Yes very cool. Please post more and I'll keep lurking.
Is Gemini Argon worth it?I am thinking of shelling out some cash for Google AI Pro but I need some expert opinions on this matter.
>>110222956do maps usually have three compasses in the middle of the sea
>>110228000I'm kind of preferring it over gpt for models and animations, yeah.But it's very expensive, and it's definitely behind opus for most other things. GPT is still better for textures (especially for small detail textures, like for example drawn on faces for low poly models), argon really couldn't make them look good, while GPT I got to tardwrangle it a bit to get a good result. It's very much a mixed bag, I'm planning on dropping my 200 codex and going for 20 codex (for textures) and then maybe a 100 google for that (since textures don't consume that many tokens anyways), and keeping my claude 200 for the workhorse stuff.
>>110228060>codex fgt copied the png instead of the gifAlso, antigravity is.... kinda meh for UX.Well, it's different, I like how technical it gets in its explanations for what it's doing, while codex you need to run it in CLI to really know what it's doing, but otherwise the file system inside of anti gravity is kinda shit, like it doesn't automatically allow you to open up pictures and files that it's building, you have to go look for it in your explorer like a cretin, this sort of basic shit is still not yet in antigravity, which I find absolutely baffling.
>>110228000every time google inches a little too close to anthropic or openai the latter release their next models blowing the f out of google once againso I'd just wait a week
>>110226272The solution to this is to generate concept art / mockups for the ui, and then have your agent implement that specific look.
Trying to create something similar to the left (Faycal from Sword of Convallaria)I still got work to do b4 all it takes is just 1 gen and one button press.
>>110227721Have you considered you're just a stupid Luddite who doesn't know how to use them correctly and has never really bothered to try?
"Hey Claude, this feature isn't working as intended">Heard, applying a couple of band-aid fixes>During testing I found the actual issue>Addressing the issue directly>I kept the band-aid fixes as well so that it feels ridiculously overturned, and now you'll have to ask me to remove them
>>110227391fuuuuccckkk, seems there is no easy way out of poverty for me. i have no clue what the kids like on there
>>110228209incremental: but with cool stuffthat's really all there is to it, it needs to look cool or look and sound funny, full ADHD coco melon bullshityou can do it bro
>>110228209i may not be a kid anymore but either it has to have goth gf sim with zombies and guns and survival daily rotation and lore enough to explain everything lol
>>110228220thanks for the trust, anon. i'll see what i can do. basically just incremental but with the latest trendy thing, right?i'll look into it more to figure out the progression more, but i also need to come up with the microtransactions so they're good enough to warrant buying but don't make you too op
>>110228252the kids are this "cooked" as they say? lol. but that at least makes it easier for me, now only to succeed
Is there a guide anywhere for getting AAA quality meshes? I know Claude can do it, because its made me a few perfect pieces, but most of the time it gives me back dogshit and I don't know what I do differently.
>>110228288of what? out of LLMs nah well maybe but you'll burn too many tokens. Tripo is currently the best Img -> 3D but that's another subscription.
>>110228302and 30 high quality meshes will basically cost you the month's quota without textures and no way to really bake down.
>>110228288Yeah idk what you smoking bro, but claude doesn't do AAA quality meshes, unless you mean 2000 era AAA meshes.Well, it can do pretty okay buildings for example, but that's about it.
>>110228311>no way to really bake down.This isn't exactly right, the model itself is more than enough, I usually only get the model from tripo, smart UV unwrapping is just one button press in blender, and then most clankers can deal with the textures after that with no issues. I really don't find tripo that expensive all things considered due to how good the models are, but if you're already running low on money, yeah. But if you're running low on money, trying to do anything with AAA quality should not be your priority.
>>110228334where do you get textures? honestly that's one of those things that fucks me over. astra is really stingy with using its own imagegen if you don't whip it.
github.com/frankhale/opus-fps
>>110228396What do you mean stingy?Here's what my workflow is:>codex has complete access to my project, including art_direction.md (most important part)>tell it (usually astra, but sol high/xhigh is probably good enough desu) about what I want designed and imagegen'd -> iterate on the concepts until I get what I want, pic rel for example >tell it 'okay gimme a sheet of this character/version with different angles: from the front, from the rear, from the left side and from the right side'>shoot it into tripo -> smart mesh -> second tab (asking for 4 side pictures, single picture models are fucking trash) -> topology quad (usually better) -> how many polys -> gen>export as .glb >grab that .glb and give it to codex 'yo, here's the model, go ahead and apply the texture based on the 2D design we decided for that character' >voila
what is the best way to generate 3d modelsim using antigravity but its giving models with soul, and i dont want soul on my game
>>110228532>i dont want soul on my gamedont worry AI cant produce soul
>>110228539explain this 3d model then
>>110228539literally just ask it to produce it
anyone attempt using difflocks? https://github.com/Meshcapade/difflocks
>>1102264940.6ms on what I assume is a top end PC to show one cloud is sort of bad so I wouldn't call it solved but I guess it's promising
Where are your gooner games /aigdg/? I eant gooner games.
>>110228705Everybody tries to make hair look realistic.Nobody tries to make it not clip through armor.
>Opus graphics
>>110228806I really want to make one but I'm not a gooner gamer, I never play gooner games and so I have no idea how to make one, I just like hot women and I want to add them to my games tbqh.
Prompted this model with 3 animations on 3 days. It's the regular time or there is a way to optimize the workflow?
>>110229038no. not unless you want to pay up for another sub until someone releases a proper "smart" topology model that can just generate meshes with okay topo we won't speed this shit up. the textures are the easy part. animation's a mess as well. you can generate mocap style but then you have to do high quality realistic models as well which balloons everything without having a way to just generate meshes on your PC for no credits.
vibecoding music with claudehttps://voca.ro/1g5cGnNpcJlT
>>110229081meshy promised to release theirs but I doubt it.https://github.com/meshy-dev/meshy-t2lots of repos with empty open source promises.
how do you guys deal with the games you are making getting to many followers? I starting to feel overwhelmed
>>110229081>>110229038?? you can do that character locally and she is a humanoid you don't need to make anims for her, they already exist
>>110229172I'm used to itfollowers =/= buyers tho, so keep your expectations in check, the money's not in your pocket until it is
>>110229172In matters of taste, the customer is always right.Which is to say, don't pay attention to your followers too much, or have an AI read what they say and analyze it for stuff that's worthwhile.For anyone actually giving you money, give them your full attention in return.
>>110229172lil pup, we never get that far
>>110229172Indian followers?
>>110229172Are you HamburgerHill dev? Noticed that got a lot of traction.
>>110229038that's slower than a human
burn out discussing all the stupid suggestionstry again 10 years later
>>110229257well she isnt human
Trying to decrapify the new vegas lighting (my own engine, not a mod). taking longer than i hoped
yikes
>>110229620how do i get my asstra to fix my qwen
>>110229620>nativelyso without writing code or tools to inspect the outputs for various inputs?
>>110229696yeah
>>110229620>yikesthis but unironically. astra can learn to edit astra, claude can learn to edit claude. rsi imminent. it's over.
>>110229172>guys I'm 6 foot four and ripped, I get all this attention... It sucks so bad guys...
>>110229729>my cock is just so big I can never stay fully erect without passing out
>>110229696scroll to experiment 8I've lost the ability to take screenshots it seemshttps://rikiyat.github.io/blog/weight-space-programming/
>>110229743>they used a goal loop with iterations to edit model weightsthe mad lads
>>110229743ok natively is doing some heavy lifting but does not sound like empty hype either
>>110229620It's over.
>>110228948reminds me of that desert mission in africa in hidden and dangerous
im a nerd more focused on low level tech than assets, squaring away concurrency and async resource management and clock sync over network for nowi think the next iteration of claude and chatgpt will be good nuff for slopping up good graphics and using all the coars well
>>110229620this combined with the evil qwen neuron experiment sounds extremely based
>>110228948>claudesoulhumanslop can't compete
someone needs to reverse-engineer Blender and make a good one, fuck blender
>>110230173Blender is open source retard
>>110230173>not letting you AI work the blender via CLIlel none even cares what blender looks like any longer
>>110230271>>110230266show what it made then
>>110230290>i need some ideas to stealnice try, nigger
Attention /aigd/i have a tripo account (pro) and I'm fed up with it. I'm not getting the results I want (maybe I'm just retarded) but I do not want these credits to go to waste. Tell me what you want rendered and I will give you the export file. No catch. I won't use the work.
>>11023038818 naked cowboys in the showers at Ram Ranch
>>110230413had to take out naked sadly
>>110230388how can you fail at tripo?>>110230428>hd modelthat's what's wrong
>>110230413>>110230428>>110230437I should have added more triangles
>>110230428>>110230449>he actually did it
>>110230449they arent in the shower
>>110230449>femalesWhat the fuck is this shit.
>>110230474>>110230486hey man not my fault it's not following instructions
>>110230388Couple of starships in a starfox style, if you have time :3
>>110230660which ones do you like? Want textured? And who do I send the files to?
>>110229172Kek, cute post anon.
>>110230782No need to send the files, I'm just creatively bankrupt and wanted some ideas. Ty anon
>>110230796no worries
>>110230388picrel
>>110230796Im glad because those could be infinitely better.
>>110230816
I'm making a custom wow server but Claude isn't very good at making new animations for existing wotlk models, and it sucks at making matching textures/model stuff.What's the tool to use for this kind of job nowadays? Claude says meshy but whats your recommend? Animations especially
>>110230959For animations, feed claude free animations, just have it look up free animations. That did it for me.
There, this might help.
>>110230994>how do useWELP, I'll remake one cleaner and with accelerated frames too, this is too long I don't expect the zoomers to not click out of it within 10s.
>>110231045>>110230994based. It helped me. But I don't feel like doing this 200 times to cover all the units I need.
>>110231060Yeah there's a plugin in codex for it, but you can't connect it to your subscription plan (yet), you need to use api tokens from an organization but supposedly you can just /tripo in codex and get what you want there directly. You can most likely ask your clanker to make a script that'll automate this over large batches too, mind you, there's nothing complex about that.
>>110230959I got decent results working directly in Blender thru an MCP but its very expensive
RIP /gedg/, no game ever came out of you but at least the schizos having 50 chain-reply arguments about malloc and arenas were entertaining
>>110231222Can I ask you for your prompts? This is the kind of unit (in terms of size and proportions) I am after.
>>110231222this is crazy good, are you using some tripio/ready models as base or something, my clanker cant do thismcp/no mcp?
>>110231384you literally mentioned mcp sorry, it's 01:00 here lol
>>110231326This is not something one shot but massaged over multiple prompts, which is why I said it gets expensive. The firing animation was a bitch to get right because Astra would really mangle the right arm and did not get the concept of correct bolt action rifle firing posture until I fed it this picIf you do get one of these right though it should be pretty simple to populate across different models
>>110231384This is pure Astra in codex + MCP blender workflow, I had a static 3d model with a completely different pose holding the rifle in one hand the other arm outstretched. If you start off with a good 3D model the clanker manipulates it much better than I thought it could
>>110231502i have seen this image on x, reddit and on multiple 4chan threads fuck you
>>110231519No, you've seen it in /vcg/ two days ago and it was only a walking animation because I made the run animation today and never posted it anywhere lmaoget some vitamin b12 nigger
>>110231553prove it then benchod fucker
>>110231560I literally told you how to do this. You can go and do this yourself. Are you sure I'm the benchod here
>>110227360i watched a youtube video saying there's some sort of "roblox mafia" and if your game gets too popular they will send you an offer to buy it, and if you refuse to sell they pay compromised roblox employees to randomly terminate your game for no reason and a few weeks later you'll see another game using your source code, because the staff gave it to them.its a mafia of indians/chinese/etc or something and if they cant own your game theyll terminate it
>>110231222 this is extremely ass and the exact same kind of bad quality claude outputs natively. Not worth whatever it cost you
>>110231603dalit
>>110231772ok stay retarded
>>110230782Damn that looks bad. Were you using text-to-3d? I've generally had pretty good results on sci-fi mechanical stuff.
>>110232010wdym? they look exactly like the images I fed it
>>110232411They just look very messy, I didn't mean to be insulting. Sorry that you've been having bad results.
doing a battle theme with claude, not sure if it's good but it's definitely better than anything I couldn't done by myself, still probably worse than sunohttps://voca.ro/139Ci4XZFgHt
>>110232440Kinda reminds me of those old Nintendo games, so if that's what you're going for it's not bad
>>110230994>using astra on high to prompt it to use gpt imageSAAAR ALTMAN KINDLY PROVIDE THE MORE USAGE
>>110232475Yes, pretty much
>>110232440much better than expected. wish it looped properly. did it use midi tools or just spit out the audio wholesale
*ndians need to be removed from polite internet. not a single discussion, thread, board, or website has been improved by their very presence.
>>110232566midi and reaperOpus actually wrote this as a sketch, it said it's going to start layering instruments and making variants of the song so it can loop and be swapped in the game depending on the intensity of the combat
>>110232627
>>110232440using bass instead of guitar sounds awful and the snare is niggerlicious but it has potential
>>110232440its cool, gives me old beat em up games vibe so if that's what you're aiming for, it did a pretty good job. you need to, at the very least, mix it though, as the gain is all over the placei've been experimenting with Claude + FL Studio too, and got the workflow down though I need to refine it further plus any in-DAW tweaks are on my sidehttps://voca.ro/1gQIlLSQWoXz
>>110232706I'll try other instruments tomorrow, my ears are fried. The drums are definitely going away.>>110232711Claude did mix it after I uploaded it. I'm using Reaper because claude said it's friendlier to LLMs since project files are just text. Yours is pretty cool, definitely a lot more serious than mine. I'm going for sort of an unserious vibehttps://voca.ro/1hSzLQSmMTcA
>>110232723>I'm using Reaper because claude said it's friendlier to LLMs since project files are just textand it's probably right too, I went with FL Studio purely because that's what I've made music in all my life and desu it's a pain in the ass to work with via LLM. might give reaper a try, good luck anon
>>110222980SHIELDS ARE ROUGH BUT HAVE THE RIGHT SHADING
>>110231222this is some good shit manthe best i could get is this
>>110232440i had no idea you could do that and end up with a coherent track, neat.I've been using this tool for sound-effects, and it works pretty well:https://github.com/Leonxlnx/earshotI tried putting your track into claude and making it sound "immersive, wide and epic"https://voca.ro/1nsBXPhpqCDZ
>>110232774Excellent work. I'm a huge faggot for 3D games on GBA so I appreciate you stroking my freeze-dried cock.
>>110232826claude has never made me an ass that looks that good
>>110232831It definitely sounds big lol but I'm really not going for an epic vibe, pic related I've been doing some experiments extracting graphics from DS games and porting them to UE. Of course I'll have to make my own assets later but I wanted to see how they looked likeI've been having a lot of fun today making music with Claude, totally underrated. I guess to a proper musician this is really mid or even bad but to me this is more than I expected>Tried getting claude to take a theme we made today and turning it into a jungle trackhttps://voca.ro/1bmQAtgVislB
>>110232846Yeah I just wanted to see what would pop out if I gave it an mp3.Oh hey I recognize that road. Nice, those look great. At some point I want to bulk extract a ton of animations from some modern motion matching games.
Bloody bitch basterd, this vibecoding vidya is way harder than it looks, I thought it was just gonna be "sir, prompt me a Fortnite clone and make me millions, make NO mistakes"Prompters in the future don't know how lucky they are
>>110232919Opus 5.5 zoomers don't know how hard we had it with 4.6
>>110232919I'm on my 3rd attempt to set an strategy for map building that actually makes coherent maps, this shit isn't a one prompt only make it happen shit.
>>110232919the money part is never going to be easy; in fact, it gets harder the more people have access to better AI
>>110232966What kinda maps? terrain maps? Shooter levels?
>>110229172just do as everybody does but don't admit; buy followers. it really is silly considering everybody says they don't do it but this guy got millionaire by selling views and followers. (2018) https://www.nzherald.co.nz/technology/i-couldnt-believe-you-could-make-that-much-money-online-getting-rich-from-selling-fake-popularity/NF7VTOZ3CI5M5SHORQ5A6CK3MI/
>>110233341yup, its a solved problem. just spend money on turd world labor to promote you
Will Claude and Asstra made games with sexy women in them?
How successful are you guys with getting Claude to gen models you want?I'm trying for a very specific style and it just kind of half-asses everything.Im using Fable on High effort, as well. Im considering actually teaching myslef how to use Blender at this point.
>>110233548Find a better 3d model and upload it to Claude, and make models new models off of it. Using reference images helps, too.
>>110233575I've tried that a few times already, and it will either stray WAY off the reference material, or just flat out refuse, because its a character from an IP that already exists.
>>110233548Not sure why people keep trying to reinvent the wheel when modeling people.Human models and topology already exists. It's a solved problem. You'll get faster results generating a mesh with with a 3D model and telling claude to wrap the human mesh around it.
>>110233580How? Because I straight up take screenshots from other games and it just does it. Or even real life supermodels/singers/actors, when I need face references. Are you sure you're asking it the right way?
>>110233598Wish I knew.I gave it references from the character models from Virtua Fighter, and asked it to make male and female models based on them and this was the result.I would have laughed if I didnt waste any tokens on it
>>110233611lol yUUPPP I tried this and man its awful. I cannot for the life of me get ANY AI to make the most basic ass 3d human model. it makes no sense. another thing I tried was having it write a script in blender to try and make a 3d model. its also terrible at that. all the textures look like shit as well its weird how bad it is.
>>110233630Its kind of weird, because you would think that it would have no issues generating models in this style, because they are low-poly, but I guess it still struggles even at that level.
>>110233611>>110233630Idk what to tell you anons, maybe try finding free 3d models of people online, or paying for just one, and then using that as a basis for future models. Upload the model, then ask Claude to make a brand new model of (description, reference image) with the same amount of complexity. This is more or less what I'm doing, plus other things. It does take forever, though, as it's a gradual process, and there's a lot of trial-and-error involved. I do recommend just paying one of those Image-to-3DModel and generating all the stuff you want there.
>>110233657>>110233657I've Tripo and its kind of ass as well.Its better than nothing, since I dont really know how to sculpt or model with 3D software yet but I just might learn how unless by next year Claude gets good enough to actually generate good 3D stuff.
>>110233611lol, just buy some kind of asset pack for few bucks or pay someone.Man, u could probably learn blender by yourself in few days, doesnt look like complicated stuff, just search on yt how to make PS1 style models in blender. You can spend probalby less time learning basics than bruteforcing that shit thru aiwhy are u retards so resistant to learning something new? Those studies suggesting that AI strips away logical thinking are probably true.
>>110233689
>>110233694two more weeks and new jew gpt will make u 3d model by burning weekly portion of tokens
>>110233657If I make all the assets and tell Claude to glue them together, will it freak out if it's a fangame?
>>110233706What are you guys even doing here? Shouldn't you be on reddit whining about Elon?
>>110233822
I asked claude to generate a Stryker....
>>110233941bro there were dozens of games over the last 20 years that have fully fleshed 3d models of a Stryker. Just fucking steal the asset
free assets packs would break this general
>>110234560I swear everyone forgot asset packs and tools exists. Like my god. Does nobody in this general know ANYTHING about game dev?Like every second these retards are reinventing the wheel.
These are simply the type of people who never engaged with any hobby before the AI era.>>110233941here, for small price u can have 24 of these, if u dig around u can probably find free ones too
what opussy effort do you usually use
How do I make my title screen and ui not look ai when I only know how to use ai?
>>110234670AI works with what it is given. Show it a UI you like and it will ape it.
I don't mind buying premade assets.But it's not reliable.They either don't look like what I have in mind, or the assets altogether might clashes with each others in style.I need AI to continue to improve so I can consistently get good results for a small price.
>>110234724Get premade then ask Claude to remodel them
been adding some possibly retarded things to my AGENTS.md lately. thoughts on what effect this will have?
>>110234761Based. Lemme look. Thought the thread 404'd since we're way over bumplimit.
>>110234761>You have autism, the good kindNigga you're gonna make it a furry
>>110232487You seem to not know how this works, but astra doesn't cost that much more than sol when it's about sending a stupid prompt to gpt image, all it does is think about what exactly I mean and how to word it, this is a matter of probably 10k tokens, you can't be so poor that seeing 10k tokens (if even that, this is definitely way less since it's just a fucking anime girl) being wasted is triggering you, right?>>110232846>>110232891This looks very very good bro, I mean I don't know which assets are 'stolen' but surely you can just replace those and it'll look just as good, good shit>>110233941>>110234622Keep in mind that the 'asset industry' revolves around bundles. It's all they do, they don't expect many people to buy these retarded packs, no, instead they hope for daddy unity/epic/humble bundle to offer them an opportunity to get their shit in a bundle and then they'll get a % of that money.It's a bit silly, and I love how people ignore this but will whine about AI assets kek
going to bed someone make a new thread
>>110234966I'm redoing the tripo tutorial and I'll make one
>>110228146Well, I though I could render the body 360 degrees just by adding a bone structure, turns out that only helps creating very minor movements.Closest I got is asking the clanker to create a default mannequin(the one on the right) based on existing assets but then it still needs to draw the pixels manually instead of automagically using code to figure out what its supposed to look like from a Generated image.I am probably gonna wait on a better model before I try this again.Anyone got any suggestions?
>>110235252From my experience with trying to get the clanker to do animation; it rarely adds onto whatever it's doing.For example, you tell it 'I want it to walk' and it'll walk, but the waist, the shoulders, the rest of the body will stay stiff as a boardLook at the original one on the left and look how even the chest pixels move and shift when it runs?Yours doesn't do that, it's stiff, the shoulders try to stay exactly as they are.Ask it to try to add more constraints to the IK and add some elasticity and momentum that ripples through the connected pieces, or something like that (I'm not an animator)
>>110235252>>110235406Also the hair spiking up and down as it runs adds a whole lot to the picture, because it's green and it 'pops', so it's very obvious to see it's running due to the hair movement, yours barely move (or at least, it moves: with the head, but it doesn't move and flow on its own)
>itch nuked everythingFUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
>>110235526perfect timing>>110235530>>110235530>>110235530
