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install linux
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-50-prices-reportedly-rising-by-up-to-500-in-china-rtx-5080-up-by-420>Every single 50 series card increasing in price this month
wtf is that
>>110235674Usecase?
Lol everything above 5060ti is basically discontinued.Every Nvidia card prior generation is also discontinued.Nvidia basically doesn't sell anything other than AI super chips or dogshit laptop ewaste.Stop recommending Nvidia what the fuck are you doing young niggas in still school
>>110235692What’s the alternative? Radeon? Intel Arc? KEK nigga kill yourself
>>110235699M5 Pro
>>110235703>dogshit laptop ewaste
>>110235703Crapple is worse than nGreedia.
German anons, any good deals you could recommend for an SSD? I currently have a Samsung 980 pro 1TB but only got like 50GBs left, since my brother also games on my PC. I have a Gigabyte B650 gaming x ax motherboard for context.
>>110235682Quad rx470 8gb test board with a plx chip in the centre
>>110235709Never mentioned laptops, you can get an M5 Pro desktop computer>>110235714>Crapple is worse than nGreedia.At gaming and gaming is for children, it mogs njewdia for anything that matters
>>110235699Computers love compute units better than CUDA cores especially Ryzen CPUs.
>>110235757>At gaming and gaming is for children, it mogs njewdia for anything that mattersYou can't even change the OS on crapple hardware faggot and nuJudea has monopoly for many applications thanks to CUDA.
>>110235716You need to delete games that you finished and wont be play anytime soonBIWIN Black Opal NV7400 seems cheap on amazon de
I bought an oled tv from microcenter that was deeply discounted and when I got there I found out it was because it was one of the display TVs. I took it home and it works fine. How fucked am I? Should I return it? I have 30 days. It still has the manufacturer warranty
>>110235779>You can't even change the OS on crapple hardware faggotAnd? the OS is irrelevant and programs are all that matters, >>>/lgbt/ is that way if you want to modify your OS like you modify your genitals
>>110235800>https://displaytech.org/en/tests/dead.pixel.htmdo the usual red, green blue, grey checks and see if there are any amounts of burn-in or dead pixels. if it's a new-ish model under a year old, there's no harm in keeping it
>>110235800Check power on time, run some tests to see if it has any even slight signs of burn-in.
>spent $200 on a Blu ray burner after it was $100 earlier in the year, tempted to buy a second as backup even though I have next to no Blu rays >spent $400 on a cpu instead of a new chair despite needing it more than the CPU right now >considering platform swapping even though it's been basically fine for everything I do>Spent $50 on four 140mm silent wings 4 fans even though my existing fans work just fine and cool my case just fine with acceptable noise I feel like I am mismanaging my money right now because of FUD.
>>110235800you can check the power on hours in the settings. display units are basically on all day until the store closes.
Yo wtf is going on these were under 1200 2 weeks ago. I was waiting to build for black friday. I coulda bought a 5080 for these prices last month
>>110235887anything over 300$ is too much for gpu
>>1102358879070xts are still $900get one now while they're still affordable
>>110235909Moot point, I would rather buy a console than an AMD gpuAt least the AMD chip in a console works unlike their shitty pc drivers
>mfw buying a showpiece like vision compact and not being able to afford a big white GPU so the whole build looks like shit anyway.Lmao fuck me
>>110235800Check for burn-in / image retention as others suggested.https://darkblackscreen.com/oled-burn-in-testThere might be better tools than that link.Most OLED TVs have two different pixel cleaning options, one is a deep-clean feature that TV manufacturers advise against manually initiating.Check the official product manual before try out the pixel cleaning option.
>>110235940just deshroud it and strap on two big black noctua fans
>>110235909>paying almost $1000 for an amd gpu
>>110235940I had the opposite. I needed a white build and frieren was the cheapest available and scooped it at 1180
is it irremediably fucked for personal computingim considering just buying land and growing legumes/fruits and animals instead of spending tens of thousands on personal computers
Is a B650 motherboard enough for a 9800x3D? Will it affect performance?
>>110235995you should be doing that anyway
>>110236004buy a b850 for pcie5.0x16
>>110235995Sounds like a good plan go for it.
>>110235932>>110235962Is it 2016? Nvidia is the one with hardware & software issues in 2026.
>>110236036Those faggots still use Speccy & Iphones & Laptops.
>>110236024that'd essentially mean rebuilding my whole pc
if you buy nvidia ur just poor & stupid like apple credit card fags
Lol everything above 5060ti is basically discontinued.Every Nvidia card prior generation is also discontinued.Nvidia basically doesn't sell anything other than AI super chips or dogshit laptop ewaste.Stop recommending Nvidia what the fuck are you doing young niggas still in school.
After playing around with LLMs on my 5070ti, I'm sort of interested in getting a 2nd gpu for it. Should I look at something like an A100 or 3090 as a 2nd?
>>1102360653090 or rtx blackwell pro 4000 if you want to buy something with warranty with 24gb vram. Its slower than the 3090 by a bit though.
>>110236065get a 4090 48gb
What's a good game benchmark to test two CPUs and the effects of tuned RAM timings on them? Maybe something that's easy to screenshot or automatically logs to file.
>>110236366cs2 dust2 benchmarkrun it once to warm up the shaders and then run it again for actual test
>>110236045https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5060-ti-pci-express-x8-scaling/https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5090-pci-express-scaling/https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-radeon-rx-6500-xt-pci-express-scaling/https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-radeon-rx-6600-xt-pci-express-scaling/
>>110236396so no meaningful or noticeable difference
>>110236366final fantasy dawntrail benchmark, evercold benchmark soon in early 2027.
I just bought a second one for 200 dollars after I checked it had gone up in price again following my order or out of stock entirly. I hate this.
>>110236366cyberpunk benchmark with low settings and high crowd density
>>110235792I play 2 games regularly, and so does my brother, but games nowadays are such unoptimized slopfests that just 2 games take away like 300 GBs. Add system files and personal files on top and you reach 1 TB fairly quickly.Thanks for the suggestion though.
>>110236460usecase?
>>110236476after having alot of trouble many years ago with a win10 install getting borked because i was gaming on the same drive i had my OS on, i keep everything compartmentalised.Can't imagine keeping everything on one drive and no idea why anyone builds a pc that way, have 1 small 500gb-1TB drive for OS and all important apps, 1-2 ssds/m.2s for gaming, then whatever for data storage. Never fails me. Especially when i got cucked with a Tforce ssd that died on me within months, i only lost all my game installs on steam, i didn't have to reinstall the OS or hope my backup worked etc.
>>110235716the 1TB sata SSD i bought for 120$ got more expensive
>>110235909As an AMDfag, just wait. Prices will come back down in a year or two even though brainwashed c00nsoomers will tell you otherwise.
>>110236518Hedging against shortages Cold backups Ripping and playing anything you want
>>110236558no prices are not going down they are only going up. you see 4080s or 6900xt going down in price? no they are going up. used to be you get a red devil for $300 now they are $500+ easily.
Thinking about how I donated my 3060 ti and 4080 a year ago
>>110236608Are CPUs going up in price?
>>110236608>I must buy right now or I die!!!
>>110235674already tried. never got so filtered in my life. like still positively (negatively) reeling, seething and coping. never again
>>110236460>check it in the store>$330WTF?!
>>110236721try again
>>110235887Just wait bro, I'm sure they will return to msrp. They have to bro, I mean nvidia literally stated the msrp bro, this is ridiculous
what's the current meta on pre-built vs laptop vs DIY gaming PCs? Is it still better to build your own PC? My poorfag friend has a budget of $1500 and is asking me for advice but I haven't kept up with prices in awhile, and with AI making everything expensive as shit I'm thinking of just telling him to wait until next year, then either the AI market will crash and he can buy a cheap GPU, or the world will end and he won't need vidya.
Does Z690 have any issues with running 4 dimms on alder lake or raptor lake? Ddr4 3200.
>>110236873It should be fine for DDR4.
>>110236860>prebuiltsbetter value rn than in past but you'd still be compensating with certain components (mainly psu and motherboards)>laptopssee picrel for gpu comparison and how high end laptops are a complete scam>diyworst time to build/upgrade but 1500 is enough for a midrange pc if you are willing to forego 32gb ddr5 and stick to 16 see: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XQvh2k
>>110236671CPU costs are flat. The costs to build around the CPU are going up. Motherboard, Monitor, RAM, SSD, KBM, etc.
>>110236860building your own pc is always better unless you are actually retarded at using computers. in that case just buy a prebuilt because if anything happens you can literally return it to the store and get a new/different one.
>>110236891thanks fren. He mentioned wanting to play the latest Final fantasy remakes so maybe 16gb of ram will be fine. I had some extra lying around but sold it all for shekels when I saw prices had spiked :(Looks like a 7800x3d is only $250 used here, a used mobo is $75, memory is ridiculous but fits within the budget ($170 for 16gb of 5600 ddr5), but GPUs are of course ridiculous.
>>110236991yeah I was just curious if pre-builts were getting access to MSRP parts like during the crypto days or if gaming laptops were relatively unaffected by AI demand, but it seems like everything is fucked except for apple (sort of... maxed out memory on a Mac Studio is still $25k...)
>>11023699816gb is fine for 99% of vidya and you can always add more ram later when/if prices ever come down. For a $1500 budget i would get a cheaper ryzen cpu and put most of the budget towards the gpu as you can always swap out to a zen6/zen7 x3d later on.
>>110236733I got the last helicopter out of Saigon
>>110236933Wrong, CPUs are going up too.
https://a.co/d/0i1wR7cbFound a motherboard+ ram combo for $320 on Amazon. 16gb ddr5 single stick + am5. It appears to be relatively new given the low amount of reviews. Sold by Amazon.
>>110236873I can push ddr4 4000 on 4x32. Intel's memory controllers are very good.
>>110236460Why the fuck is this going up in price too? It was like less than half the price a year ago.
Are there any cheap storage options left? All I've thought of is two fuckhuge drives in raid 1.
>>110237149single stick of ddr is retarded
so what is a good used gpu for 200 to 300 bux? for 1080p gaming. friend of my little brother wants to build himself a gaming pc. budget is like 600 bux. you can get a cheap used am4 system here for 200 bux.
>>110237201I'm about to sell all my unraid drives (like 40TB of HDDs plus about 6TB in SSDs). Just like covid cured me of fast-food + eating out, AI is going to cure me of my data hoarding behavior.
>>110237171It went EOL at retailers a month or two ago, BU40N stock is drying up. Best time to buy was in May of this year at $135 or less.
>>110237208Depends on what power supply you're working with. For 1080p gaming pretty much anything from the 3060 or newer. If you're working with a shitty power supply the rtx 5050 might be a good choice.
https://www.techpowerup.com/352458/intel-set-to-raise-cpu-prices-by-another-10-in-octoberReminder that Intel already raised prices for CPUs, which is why the 14600 is $280, and the 14700K is $430.
>>110237254i still have an old (four years old) 650w unit somewhere from evga. i had to ask about the gpu because i can only find 3060s, 3070s, b580s and 7600s. it feels like the time has stopped working.
>>110237209The internet will soon become locked down and vpns restricted. Dumb idea to sell.
2027 will see the return of HEDT
>>110237284Literally all of those are fine. Just get the cheapest or the one with the most vram.
>>110236991>>110237011If you apply minimum wage to the work and you're starting at zero knowledge, then prebuilt makes sense. However if you're young and you got tangential hobbies, the return is there. Especially with LLMs what might have taken 2 weeks of afternoon research is perhaps an intense weekend.What is seldom mentioned is the marketwatching. Going used + marketwatching is where you'll actually save money. Now you got so many lowkey workarounds that even supposed DIY PC space doesn't talk about + aliexpress. It's a great time to be a little bit creative.
>>110235680>Bu-buh the bubble went popperino!!>Tsunami of hardware coming to the market!>Warehouses full of unused cards!Yeah the price increases aren't going to stop here.Next year 5070 Ti is going to go for $2500.
>>110235887> I was waitingSee there's your mistake, don't wait. Waitfags have been getting fucked for a while now. People should have learned by now.If you want something then get it as soon as possible and call it a day. Looking for deals isn't something you can afford in the hardware world at the moment.Black Friday hasn't had any real deals for years anyways.
>>110237416it's just a desperate plea to keep the grift going it's going to crash
>>110237459The large corporations may eat shit, but AI isn't going anywhere and neither is the hardware demand.And if the big guys topple over and everyone rushes to build their own clusters, the hardware situation is going to get way worse than it's now.
Nah yea fuck this I'm getting a ps5
Waitfags have been losing since the 40 series launch. The Last time waiting was right was during the 30-series mining boom. If you FOMOd in youd be fucked for the 40 and 50 series.
