Transparent editionHow to request advice:>Budget>Intended use (media, source, environment)>Frequency response preference and music examples>Past gear and your thoughts on themFAQ:>Where do I buy IEMs?Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio>Shopping Guide (IEMs, PMPs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):https://consoomer-guide.pages.dev/>/iemg/'s Journal:https://iemgazette.pages.dev/>EQ Guide (EQ 101, Targets, Myths & Misconceptions, Papers, etc.):https://iem-eq-guide.pages.dev/>Measurements:https://iem-eq-guide.pages.dev/measurement-databases/>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:• Tanchjim Bunny DSP (Mild U/5-Band PEQ) - $22• Tangzu Wan'er S.G 2 (mild V) - $20• EPZ Q1 Pro (V-shape) - $35>Bullet IEMs:• Tanchjim Zero Ultima DSP (Mild U/5-Band PEQ) - $22• Sony IER-EX15C (Warm/Dark) - $30• Etymotic ER2XR (Towards Neutral) - $140>Flathead Earbuds:• NICEHCK Vido (Warm) - $5• Yincrow X6 (Warm) - $10>USB-C DACs:• JCally JM6 (Non Pro) / CX Pro - $8• JadeAudio JIEZI (10-Band PEQ) - $18• TRN Black Pearl (10-Band PEQ) - $38• Qudelix 5K (20-Band PEQ/GEQ) - $110>PMPs:• HiBy R1 - $85• HiBy M300 - $200• TempoTec V1 - $110>AVOID USING:• Mainboard audio when using multi-driver posPrevious Thread: >>110246192
>>110263918True, you can EQ $300 pos to sound good but you can't make a $150 dongle sound good.
Mid Tier$5 shitbuds$10 shitbuds$20 shitbudsHigh Tier$3 shitbuds$4 shitbudsTop Tier$1 shitbuds$2 shitbudsGod Tier$0 shitbuds
/iemg/ Dogma Check Tired of the hivemind? Trying not to go crazy? Don't know what to believe???Here’s your prescribed sanity dose:>Crinacle is not your priest.Rankings are a guide, not divine scripture. Your ears > his spreadsheet.>Harman and JM-1 ≠ perfect.It’s a preference curve, not a law of physics. Some genres need deviation.>Chi-Fi isn’t magic.Great value, yes. Immune to QC issues and hype cycles? Nope.>Graphs are not sound.They don’t show staging, dynamics, or fit. Use your ears, not just squigs.>BA ≠ metallic, DD ≠ perfect.Implementation matters more than driver type. Always has.>Meme sets aren’t the whole hobby.If it’s not shilled 24/7, it might still be good. It's highly encouraged to form an original opinion.>Disagreeing ≠ cope or deaf.Let people like what they like without foaming at the mouth.>Loud posts =/= smart takes.Confidence without experience is just noise. Show graphs, impressions, or both.>Cognitive dissonance.When you're presented with a truth that threatens your entire perception of the world around you, your brain will simply refuse to process it.This has been your scheduled break from pos groupthink.
>>110264094Doesn't know how panning works btw.
Observe: chu2, waner2, zero2, castorpro2, pr2, titan2, sr-001mk2, galaxy buds2, as12, black pearl revision 2, kbear st12, 11.2mhz, 512gb
whats the smallest nozzle iems? in all the iems ive used none have ever gone into my ear canal
>>110264111etymotic/shure/westone
>>110264114thnks
>>110264109>they cost $22 before coupons
bought this 160 usd tech monster, thanks for recommendation. It was pretty much what I was looking for.
>>110264137thanks.hope u dont mind i autoeq my edc pros to it
Anyone here in the UK order from the Linsoul website? I wanna know if I'll get hit with taxes or customs. Or is it better to order from their AliExpress store?
>>110264145don't really know about UK but for EU if they state that taxes are paid u are not paying anything extra. Go for checkout and under shipping there should be info about that. I never had any extra taxes on top of it via linsoul or hifigo but im from EU. Usually that stuff lands in rotterdam and from there it goes by truck to destination country, dont know how it works for UK tho.>>110264142I get pimples from cheap plastic inside my ears, metal pos is the way
>>110264111Just barely insert them enough to get a seal. It's not a competition.
>>110264142>still EQing to physically existing pos
>>110264109>sees PR2>drools>profit???>>110264137Show us please
just 3d print fugakus shell and eq to it
>>110264207Not send yet, bought it yesterday after someone here shilled it to me instead of crinear daybreak, I wanted something with metal shell.
>>110264161When I look at that on my checkout page on Linsoul it says tax unpaid. But when I compare it to AliExpress checkout after the tax adjustments on their site it's £20 cheaper. I'm so confused.
>>110264218Odyssey 2 is not a bad choice. Hope you enjoy it
>>110264236If it says unpaid it's unpaid. I think u can also click on shipping rules at the bottom of the page. at least on hiifgo they described everything there and provided example tracking numbers so u could check out how it went with previous shipments to your country. Maybe linsoul have something similar. Also check reddit.AliExpress is usually more expensive than hiifgo or linsoul or shenzen audio. Never really bought anything audio related from there unless we are talking about some niche things that aren't available on these stores.
>>110264258I just don't wanna end up paying taxes on it twice because the Linsoul price looks like it has them included. While AliExpress removes them at checkout
>>110264282Is AliExpress price cheaper then? Because for EU even after AliExpress removing VAT tax prices on checkout prices on linsoul or hiifgo (with included vat tax as stated on checkout) are still smaller. Like I suspect they are not paying vat tax at all but bigger sites like AliExpress or temu are too big to avoid that. But I'm talking about EU, don't really know how it works for UK.I would just search reddit or headfi for UK customers.
>>110264306On Linsoul its saying (Tax Unpaid) and it's 269. Ali is deducting the taxes and its 244. I assume I'd have to pay taxes on the AliExpress order when it gets here. Then the price would be basically same. But if I order from Linsoul and they end up taxing me on top of that I'll end up paying like 320.
anyone on why does the audio stutter when I touch the cable? is it fixable or do I need new cable?
>>110264408Might as well get a whole new IEM, the price difference will be marginal. Truthear gates are commonly bought for their cables. If it's an IEM problem that will solve it too.
>>110264360Just realised on Linsoul its Tax Paid for Standard Shipping but Tax Unpaid for Express. What's the point of free Express shipping if I'm gonna get taxed after? And if my order is above a certain amount only Express shipping is available. That's kinda stupid.
>>110261600Not really a dongle but jcally pj3 is the only one that meets my standards.
>>110264432ask them to write a lower value on the invoice so you pay less on customs
>>110264421better throw these into trash, they sound terribly thin and eq doesn't fix that. never had a good experience with this chink company anyways. kz is the ultimate useless pos manufacturing kingpin
>>110264447That's just bad seal nigga. When graph shows bass but you hear no bass the problem is you.
>>110264447what do you use anon?
>>110264432Yeah, I don't like them that much. U can even choose currency, u are always bound to your local currency but prices are in USD so PayPal scams u at exchange. On hifigo and AliExpress u can pay directly in USD, exchange ur money on for example Revolut and pay basically nothing for that. On linsoul u either choose fake adres in USA and contact support to change that after ordering stuff or pay ridiculous amount of money to Paypal for exchanging money.
>>110264454>graph shows bass but you hear no bass the problem is you.This. KZ has always stuck to their v-shaped tendencies and get better and better at it.
Bass level varies even with a good seal too, from the acoustic impedance of your ears, but it mostly affects dogshit drivers(BAs) and it can be EQd.
>>110264470Thanks for the tip. If I exchange USD with my revolut I save nearly £10. Paypal really does scam you bad
>>110264447do you regret not buying the Chu 2
>>110264092
>>110263415It's almost trivial to make something sound better than any kilopos. You remove treble peaks and dips by ear and then adjust the overall balance with shelves. No kilopos will ever approach this. To make something sound exactly like kilopos you'd have to replicate all the issues too, why the fuck would you do that.
>>110264408wait i just fixed it by turning off wavelet. that eq made it stutter kek
>>110264655What are Subtonic Storm's "issues"?
>>110264698not costing $2
>>110264698Out of phase drivers literally annihilating a chunk of the treble?
>>110264711I'd like to read about that. Could you link a review or impression somewhere that talks about this?
>>110264714Nobody that can afford storm can hear that high.
>>110264845trvke
uh oh pagmonkeys the piggers are striking back
>>110264734Just a buncha gibber gabbering is all that's going on.
>>110264109>>110264708>>110264109
OBVIOUSLY its trivial to eq a shitbud to surpass storm because of its out of phase drivers that annihilate its treble come on man. i hate that you're even making me spend energy on typing out this obvious stuff. i even suspect you might be baiting me.. Next you'll want me to prove that water is wet
>>110264092what app do you use to peq castor on pc?
New opamps from china came yesterday. I will try them later. Swap was eazy but amp bay is so small on that shit that for anything more u need risers and extension boards. With these ones at least I can close lid.
>>110264954I look like this and say this.
>>110264954Nobody is making you do anything, but if you're going to make wild claims, you better provide some backing to those claims instead of running your mouth more as you're being called out on it.
>My mantra is "I can EQ $5 shitbuds to Subtonic Storm because Crinacle said I could"
>>110265087I personally can, you of course can't.
>>110265080Nothing wild about this claim, this has been known for at least 15 years. An actual wild claim is saying there's something in IEMs that's not shown in the measurements.
>>110265098You were asked to shown impressions or reviews, etc. of Storm having 'out of phase drivers' and you provided nothing. Without proof, the claims are wild and faulty.
>>110265107Ask chatgpt.
>but what do other people say Have you considered the possibility that all the other people are wrong?
>>110265080entire post was me parodying some of the retards on here. its really hard to avoid poes law when doing this here
>>110265171>entire post was me parodyingLLMzo alone didn't understand this.
>>110265091Send iem and EQ, I'll buy it and dispell this myth
It's oyvir if I could make chuzo ragequit this catbox spamming pagpag is no match for me, pag persecution is back on the menu
>>110265326>he thinks my EQ will work for him It's so over it's never even began.
>>110265361You cant EQ to subtonic since you never had them in your ears thenCheckmate carcass eater
>>110265381Skill issue.
I'm done with iems. fuck it
>>110265393Goalpost
>>110265407Moveable goalposts is crazy.
The maths are in (courtesy of GPT Sol 6.5):-If you can EQ pagpos to subtonic storm due to insane skillz, then in theory, your eq'd pagpos should sound better than an non-EQ'd subtonic storm.-Due to shrödingers eq (the endgame eq that never gets posted) we can infer that this is bullshit, and that you cannot actually eq pagpos to sound like kilopos
>>110265475>you cannot actually eq pagpos to sound like kiloposThat's what I said to you as well, you can't do it.
>>110265506>eqPost it
Fish iem endgame
>>110265653
>>110264137Odyssey 2 at $160? Mogs Daybreak. You wonned bigly. Enjoy
dont post too much guys or big totl will have you killed
>>110265011holy shit, it changed the sound. What kind of sorcery is this? I knew the stock op-amps were only of average quality but holy shit. It werk, i thought it just snake oil. Entire low end came to life on my planar pos, maybe still not thump of good dd but far better than with stock opamps. Need to try it with something with high impedance. It requires more volume. Chinks are magicians
>>110265933Ikea effect is incredible.
>shitbud alert>pagpag>price inverse>paypigs>pos>autoeq>$5>endgame>fox>science>tips>free>dongles>techs>thd>quality>flac vinyl dsd>kilopos>$3>aliexpress>headpos>dap/pmp>mW>khz>dB>3.5mm>1DD>youtubers>graph
>>110265475>eq'd pagpos should sound better than an non-EQ'd subtonic storm.
>>110266060NonEQd 1DD already sounds better than EQd BA pos.
I'm rich, I'm miserable - I'm pretty average for this general
>>110266142I rarely save up $20 coins anymore, got $5 rn. Once you have $10 during a sale, free stuff starts to open up.
trn black pearl-s and kbear st12 took $15 of coins, total $17
>>110266207Hard to do that when u are in EU and have to pay 10usd tax + 22% vat tax from every shit u order there. I'm using coins basically to cancel that first tax and buy it with normal price (so overpriced)
>>110266240this is the brize of freedom
You know what they call a $5 shitbud in France? 10€
Linsoul is having some promotions so I bought the CrinEar Daybreaks and the Simgot SuperMix4s. Hope they arrive soon.
Qudelix 5K Plus released in Korea
>>110266315Solid upgrade but I'll probably stick with my KA17.
>>110266315use case? we have good PEQ apps on every OS
>>110266486LOL! >Good>Systemwide >Android >iOS>MacOS
>>110266535systemwide is a meme>muh shitdroid gamesgot my mpv configured
>>110266561It's 2026. People use streaming services.
>>110266576been streaming on mpv and mplayer before you were born, zoomzoom
EQ is pain if u have more than 1 pos, more than 1 computer, more than 1 source/dac/amp, u need to somehow sync these shit and think what profile u are using. I understand how people avoid it at all cost.
>>110266583You're streaming Spotify, YT Music and Apple Music on mpv?
>>110266535>AndroidEquallizer314>iOSEffectDeck>MacOShttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dq2Ulajhtv0
>>110266599
>>110266594ytdlp, torrent client, sshfs, etcI see the usecase if you have a good phone that can play windows games. maybe I'd just set my pc to be a bluetooth sink and have sox route that to my dongle with peq and upsampling. im too lazy to not do shit the unix way
>>110266590>more than 1 posuse cases?
>>110266599>goodLol!https://eqpractice.pp.ua/en/equalizer314-measurements/For me it's rooted jamesdsp's convolver.
>>110266590if it needs eq it gets sold. simple.
>>110266662Everything needs EQ.
>>110266680Even your mom?
>>110266654ohhh noooo muhhh 0.01% difference
>>110266699Yes. Too much 5kHz.
>>110266680it would probably benefit a lot of people who are currently not using eq.
>>110266701Nobody can hear 300ms latency, chud.
The human ear can't hear above 128kbit.
@ADL@Mossad
>>110266768meds
>>110266768Drumpf IEM
I just gave my Helios dac to a friend and blind bought the Allnic D-15000, I've become the person I used to mock when I first started audio
>>110266768
The answer all along was 2.
>>110265404I've have only just begun. EDC Pro autoeq'd to supermix4 on 4.4mm black pearl
>>110266315Chinese crap won. Endgame Chu2 + Black Pearl revision 2 + Kbear ST12 + $20 shitphone doesn't even reach $40. why spend more
>>110266583Boomer is talking, listen and learn.
$20 endgame nigga
Why do people spend $$$$$ on garbage and call people poor when endgame is a 20 dollar rig in a 20 dollar chinkphone
>>110267153where?
>>110267201See >>110250199
shitphone shitdongle shitbud combo is forever goated
>called out on wild claims>"I was only pretending to be retarded"
AR3000 hype status?
>>110267483totl for half a year, after totl wil be ar 3000 mk2
>>110265702Damn, now I gotta find fox-shaped IEMs.
which IEM has the most bassy sound, clear sound and stand alone high pitches at the same time?
>>110265702dick shaped iems?
>>110267795cvj konoka
>>110265933how garbage was the opamps it came with? you should upgrade on principle but try the old ones again. I have moddable LM4562 opamps, I'll likely get the cheapest rec'd aliexpress one
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/does-op-amp-rolling-work.61518/
ordered a couple of oracle 2s to put in
>>110268473canceled it and got OPA1612 instead
Upgrading your amp never got so cheap. God bless Xi Jinping.
>>110268613This is for my Gad Adv + Cayin RU7 lineout rig that outputs 1620 mW
New ones are 2x trulis ha8802 on top of ufeel mk8 boards. Lots of stuff like that on AliExpress and taobao but prices are crazy, everything went to shit with eu tax for chinas products. I really can't experiment as much as I would like because of it. Had to read thru headfi thread to choose something that I would probably like. I don't know what was mounted stock, it wasn't bad but these feels like upgrade. Like before that I thought it's just snake oil. Need to try stock ones once more.On headfi thread there is lots of crazy builds on these platform, most of it done via extension plates or ribbon cables because nothing fits inside but that shit cost money.
>>110268681Basically if you put DSD256 into Cayin RU7 and run it line out, you outsource the tiny chips on the RU7 for big dick ones. This boosts the techs for Moondrop Stellaris.
>>110268681you need a measurement rig to do A/B testing between components to really know if you're experiencing placebo or not
>>110268760OPA1612 has slightly better specs than LM4562 and it's a free upgrade
>>110268746Looks like Doug audio stuff from AliExpress, but maybe they sell that shit by multiple brandings. These opamps were shilled to me by its tube like characteristics, I don't know because I never had tube amp but there certainly changed something.Anyway, not listen that much today and I was after day of work with louder stuff in background so maybe my hearing wasn't that sharp, I will test it more tomorrow
>>110268767Yeah I'm just saying, if you could record audio from your IEMs before and after swapping components in your signal chain, it would be super useful.
>>110268778Yeah I definitely don't want a rolled off opamp. I can easily do that in software
>>110268786I'll buy an aliexpress rig and test my dacs and amps
I bought my mom some Linsoul TANGZU Wan'ers because you faggots convinced me they sounded as good as Airpods. I tried them with and without my fancy DAC and they sounded like completely shit. Fuck you incel retarded poverty fags, I hope you OD on copium. t. Monarch MK4 user
>>110268820haha
I'm reading that the Adv Gad uses tubes for voltage and opamps for current
>>110268857I'm using apple dongle for voltage and current.
>>110268864I'm proud of you son
>>110268874When I grow up I'll check out dem amp thangs.
>>110268857>I'm readingGoogle Gemini being more accepted than Grok or ChatGPT in here is the new meta? Well I'll be damned
>>110268864>>110268874>>110268885samefag
>>110268797They shilled lots of stuff desu. Even AliExpress ones were crazy expensive and stuff like Burson vivid required modified board or extension cables. There is definitely some rolloff but overall entire fr titled a bit giving me bit fuller sound with more focus on vocals, and of course bass at least with planar hits harder, didn't try anything else besides that yet. Amp section is more power hungry for sure, volume wheel went up. Overall I'm happy but for more neutral sound either vivids or chinks made class A amp card for it, it's power hungry and requires better cooling but it's there on AliExpress for me to buy.
>>110268896Meds not taken fag.
>>110268886AI is nice for fetching info on proprietary crap
>>110268909You're working way too hard defending a pretty harmless observation.
>>110268820
>>110268919Taking a screenshot counts as work these days?
>>110268885It's an interesting purchase for $80 and I have line outs and headphones.
>>110268931>"Notice what he didn't mention"
>>110268940Notice how what you think I didn't mention was addressed in my previous post.
Here opamp bay isn't that big and behind that is screen with not that much shielding. Anything more than what I mounted and u aren't closing that door.
>>110268900>>110268966Yeah I've seen those big discrete opamps and they won't fit in the case on mine. I went for the cheap logical step up.
>>110268820>Monarch MK4Obsoleted by fox IEM.
>>110268987>he got that shit to workbased
>>110268987BTFO
>>110268987your pic is good quality
>>110269038*wrong screenshot
>>110269045Orange > all this crap.
Boys, CDROMs are making a comeback.
No wonder the furfag is pearl clutching her cheap shit so hard. The sad reality is that tonality is the only cope she has since she personally can't discern techs. >"anon doesn't know what EQ is btw"really means she doesn't know what techs even sound like>"anon is a paypig"meaning she herself couldn't tell the difference between her $500 shit from $35 shit, which is even funnier.>"you are deaf"meaning she is deaf.this has never been more obvious>>110269064>orangeOk you might have a point here. I can't argue with that, tbf
>>110269091After EQ $500 pos has worse techs than $35 pos. Everybody who EQs knows this.
Imagine mistaking low audio quality for techs. Couldn't be me.
[Oinking intensifies]
Answer me this pagpags: If price is inverse to quality then why oink oink oink oink oink oink oink
>>110269193Because tube amps or something.
An endgame amp for KZ users.
imagine being this mindbroken by edc pro
>>110269083why?
>>110269064I wish I could drink liquor and spirits. I just go bezerk wirh that stuff.. I have to stick to lite beer.
>>110269352because I can print cartoon fetish porn on the discs along with some 96kbit opus
>>110268820Are the making them listen to beats by Dr dre?
>>110269321Imagine being ear raped by pr2 and blaming edc pro.
>Imagine oink oink oink oink oink oink
>>110269064>orange and white>copper and silverWas audio about foxes all along?
>>110268864>>110268874>>110268885>>110268909Same fag!
are the tanchjim nora's a good pickup or should I just get the origins? ive tried a bunch of iem's that fit in my ear but kind of feel too big and hurt during long periods of use
>>110269720>NoraSame driver as Origin while being $170 cheaper. Just get the cheaper one
>>110269038>>110269045IEMs are not Jojo stands.
$5 Shitbud Alert
bassheads are the only ones having fun
>>110265011>>110268966Very nice
>>110267483Successfully shilled from the looks of it. I'm still waiting to demo it at canjam. I don't like the angled drivers gimmick
>>110266288JM-1 vs Harman, post your impressions when they arrive
>>110264491Distance matters too, can get good seal on both deep flanges and shallow tips, result in different sound signature
>>110268746Do you like that RU7?
>>110270160I just just ordered these. I even got those cheaper that that after i added my with coupon.. What can I say? I gotta try to zero 3.. they should call them the Crin 3 at this point.
>>110271325They won't sound anything like JM-1 or Harman when they're in his ears
>>110269064>drinking alonegrim
one last picture, this one from headfi thread
>>110271623Sometimes I drink alone but its great. I pop in my iems and bottle of wine amd some lite beers. Then i get nice and toasty on my back deck while listening to my iems.
>>110271644Can you explain what's happening in that picture?
What is everybody monitoring with their IEMs today?
> cmd f > "alba"bakaI got the Meze ALBAs and they come with a 3.5 mm to USBC DAC and for $130, I feel like they are a steal. They bounce/feel like they're made out of hard ceramic. These are my second pair of IEMs ever and so far I'm happy with these. Does anyone else have an opinion on Albas?pic related
>>110271775You should take a pic of yours
>>110271775they were fine when i had them, just nothing specialidk, metal shell iems have become so popular in the sub $100 segment that fit just as well too so i don't see the alba's place
>>110271746I put on my podcast iems and binged horror movie stuff on youtube
>>110266274more like €1.50.You 'Muricans pay for Trump's tariffs, not Europe.
>>110271644tell them that Amir said there were no differences
>>110271775Can't go wrong with a 1DD.
>>110269361Who the fuck drinks liquor straight, make a cocktail bro.
>sharur called himself "the dark one"Respect the self-awareness.
>>110272306I cant do those either. I mean I really like cocktails... ill just pound those way too fast and then get too drunk. I can order it if I go out to dinner. But I cannot have any bottle or 40 proof liquor in my possession. On wine its fine. Lite beer also fine.. for me.
>>110271325Will do. I mostly listen to weird music so I don't know how representative it'll be of the average listener in that regard.
>>110271746https://youtu.be/zhqym0dy1jY
>>110264114seconding Etymotic, probably the smallest IEMs in existence, miniscule nozzles and great sound that in its price range has no interest in being this gooddeep insertion is real, but you always can replace eartips for Final E or some Spinshits with a nozzle adapter, so there's space to customize the fit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOa-i86rBZY
>>110264632I miss Chuzo so much, he was a cool guy
>>110267153I sadly inform that Chu 2 has been mogged and obsoleted by Moondrop POSition, which turned out to be the Chu 2 with more techs I was dreaming of
>>110266142Michael…
Hello /g/ I have never used IEMs before. Are these a good first buy?>Tanchjim Bunny DSP (Mild U/5-Band PEQ) - $22>Tangzu Wan'er S.G 2 (mild V) - $20>EPZ Q1 Pro (V-shape) - $35
>>110271644>muh discrete opamps>muh discrete opamps muhfugga
>>110273939So the height of the peaks on the waveform wasn't sound quality, who would have thought.
>>110274298truthear pure is the safest, and the cable is actually good
Vinylhttps://files.catbox.moe/iq14x1.flachttps://files.catbox.moe/3myits.flachttps://files.catbox.moe/0uncck.flachttps://files.catbox.moe/eg0gvq.flachttps://files.catbox.moe/b9242b.flachttps://files.catbox.moe/n3f6hs.flachttps://files.catbox.moe/byz8u3.flachttps://files.catbox.moe/fh2eu6.flachttps://files.catbox.moe/dubinz.flachttps://files.catbox.moe/vlcajv.flacDSDhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/mj5m7i5p.wvhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/ai02z9nt.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/2v06t7.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/xm6erl.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/3hn6j0.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/7gmadv.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/k7gdca.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/ylzmyg.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/nns3zo.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/ylf2g8.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/6k21eq.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/oy3hgt.wvhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/eynp1emh.wvhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/hwqu8llt.wvhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/1lseof6f.wvhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/23u7kf0r.wv
>>110265011Why tf does that cost so much?
>>110274893It's made to provide the required quality for $400 iems.
>>110274921can it manage $2 iems?
We could compile a /iemg/ list of accessories included with budget iems for maximum value so newbs don't buy them separately>Truthear Gate for best overall cable>Chu 2 for thin clear cable>Tangzu Wan'er 2 for Tangzu Sancai ear tips>Final E500 for Final Audio E ear tipsCan't think of anything else. Don't remember which comes with a good carrying case
>>110274893I dont know, bought it used for less, bigger than your standard dongle. And it wasnt good deal even few years ago. U just pay extra for gimmick with swappable dacs and opams with semi portable device. But to really play with that u need to spend much more as DAC cards are like 150-200 usd each and for high end opamps u need to buy few extra things as that opamp bay isnt that big and anything with bigger heatsinks will not fit.Weird that chinks never made followup to this because this one have lots of little things that could be improved. I think they showed cheaper version lately tho
>>110275048No, the distortion on $2 IEMs is too low.
>>110275172here is that new one, I think its cheaper and still in preproduction
>the manufacturer is retarded, if I just replace one part in their design it will become good There are actually "people" that believe this.
>>110269038I love my Explorers
>>110275460Those still seem to be good. I remember when Top Pros were getting hyped and literally nobody is talking about them now lol
>>110275624The shit people do to avoid having quality audio.
>>110275624>"Now if I just buy 128 higher quality resistors, I will get better sound"R2R is just an overengineered low-pass filter.
>>110275647>"maybe if I just upsample my 96kbps MP3s to DSD, I'll have better quality music"
Me love audio forums. Better than endless shit talk about EQ and newest flavor of translucent plastic from china
>>110275351>Oink oink oink "oink" oink oink oink.>>110275647>Oink oink oink oink oink oink oink oink.>>110275657>Oink oink oink oink oink-oink oink.>>110275669>>"oink oink oink oink, oink oink oink"Uh oh, the paypigs are going insane again!
>>110275732I don't think you understand how integral translucent plastic from china is to this hobby.
>>110275732I don't think you understand how integral endless shit talk about EQ is to this hobby.
>>110275747A guy that spent over $5 on a DAC says oink. Lmao!
Jm1 status?
Buy EDC Pro and save yourself from the pigs.
I don't think you understand how integral cope and emotional attachment is to this hobby.
>>110275807Still better than Harman. What are your personal thoughts on JM-1?
>>110275821>Still better than HarmanCounter point - it's chink psy ops to make u buy more translucent plastic from them
for me it's opalescent plastic from china
>>110275657Not really. R2R is the logical conclusion of the sampling theorem not caring about the number of bits you're using. 1 bit 40kHz recording already contains all audible audio with 6dB SNR. Higher sample rates allow to use noise shaped dithering to increase the SNR in the audible rang while reducing it in the inaudible range. NOS is what creates the low pass effect because it's forced to use a terrible low pass filter at 22kHz. With over oversampling you can move the low pass filter to MHz where it doesn't matter. Every DAC needs a hardware low pass filter to avoid outputting staircases. Modern DACs are precise enough to have more than one bit, to reduce the amount of oversampling needed, so DSD doesn't even correspond to anything. Playing PCM as is through them is still the highest quality audio. To get get high quality audio without reducing bit depth and oversampling you need a fox DAC...
>>110275853>a terrible low pass filter at 22kHz*a terrible hardware low pass filter at 22kHz>With over oversampling you can move the low pass filter*With over oversampling you can move the hardware low pass filter
>>110275821I never heard it. What is go to shitbud to buy targeting that?
>sub bass>mid bass>mids>treble>highs>etc etcGenuinely WHAT the fuck do these terms even mean. I know they're the frequencies of the sound but how am I supposed to know what part of the song corresponds to those sounds so I can know if an IEM sounds good in those frequencies. Is bass guitar sub bass or mid bass? Are guitars treble? Are vocals highs or mids?What are some songs to test for each of those things so I can know what to listen for.
EDC Pro autoeq'd to paypig is endgame.
>>110275836Chinks didn't come up with JM-1, they capitalized on it.>>110275925Just EQ to it and make preference adjustments accordingly. Don't be like the crazy fox lady and buy pos based on tuning alone
>>110275807A plot by the headpos show to sabotage IEMs.
>mfw chinese rice farmers could make a pos with lower THD than what paypigs are willing to spend
I want to buy a bird IEM
>>110275963>how am I supposed to know what part of the song corresponds to those sounds so I can know if an IEM sounds good in those frequencies.Not a bad question. The answer is to familiarize yourself with the audio first.>Is bass guitar sub bass or mid bass?It sits in the whole spectrum mostly. That's why it is mixed right down the middle of the mix, basically mono.Guitars are mid and treble focused, but so are vocals- also why vocals are mixed right down the middle and guitars take up the extreme right and left portions of the stereo mix. All this to make a clean mix and give every sound it's place, adding to "separation".
Personally? I run my K11 R2R in 1-bit mode and run 11.2MHz sox -t waveaudio "Stereo Mix" -t waveaudio 1 rate -v 11289600 sdm -f clans-6 -t 4 -n 4 with my peq through it.
sox -t waveaudio "Stereo Mix" -t waveaudio 1 rate -v 11289600 sdm -f clans-6 -t 4 -n 4
Did PCM hurt you?
>>110276135Personally? I run quality audio through a quality DAC.
DSDhttps://pomf2.lain.la/f/x66n1uw3.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/vwr1me.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/i3x3mz.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/ykanw5.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/er1vcy.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/odoth7.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/xvtjjd.wvhttps://files.catbox.moe/154yq6.wv
>>110276244Endgame requires a $30 custom faceplate.
>>110276244
>>110273878Good taste.
Unsurprisingly, $5 shitbuds won again and it wasn't even close. Buy your Chu2 and Bunny from Aliexpress today.
>>110275963Just listen to some music and play with the bass and treble EQ. Increasing the treble boosts the high frequency. Increasing the bass boosts the low frequency. You can hear it while youre listening. You'll hear he bass get louder and boomy You'll hear the highs get louder and sharper when you increase the treble.The highs are heard most of the time through hi-hats and cymbals. Sometimes very high vocals can occupy part of the high range. A notable example of female vocals going high could be Mariah Carey's "Emotions" which actually set a record for hitting the G#7 whistle register. A lot of instruments hit the high range as well. . The standard EQ (equalizer) only adjusts bass and treble.. fancier EQs have a whole bunch of knobs to adjust many more of the frequencies in between.. this is what people are discussing when theyre talking about sub bass, bass, mids, treble amd etc.. theyre just talking about these different parts of the sound spectrum.
>>110276596tfw the setup on the right didn't even cost $50>$23 rg nano>$15 black pearl>$5 bunny>$3 st12 4.4mm>$1 sancai nobleThank you Aliexpress.
>>110276634To add to this when I hear YouTube audiophile guys talking about Sibilance, timbre, sparkle and air then i am starting to become confused about those terms.I guess i didnt go to audiophile school like some people.
>>110275963
>>110275853It's really nice that with oversampling, one could achieve the best of both worlds: The time domain perfection of resistors with the frequency domain perfection of deltasigma. Zero compromises.
The History of Digital Audio>sony uses 44/16 pcm for their vhs tape recorders and later CD>people realize running dac chips at a higher frequency sounds smoother and that 44/16 is a compromise>sigma-delta chips oversample using 1bit cuz less computationally intensive and lower power in spec sheets, new chips every year>sacd was going to be 96khz>pcm chips are on their way out>because oversampling is close enough to highres, sacd instead uses/develops DSD (direct stream digital) to bypass oversampling in the oversampling chips by having the format be the same 1bit oversampled signal>MSB pipes pcm into resistors, sells for $3000, nobody else figures this out for 15 years>people figure out how to pipe 1bit/sigmadelta/DSD into resistors
hey at what point do my nigger ears get diminishing returns on hi-fi audio shiti don't wanna spend 2k usd on a pmp
>>110277615$0-$30 diminishing returns, $30+ - negative returns.
>>110277615headphones geared for music production aren't expensive bro
>>110264081I bought Crinear Daybreak due to anon recommending it. I then bought Protocol Max and derived this config for it:Preamp: -8.9 dBFilter 1: ON PK Fc 20 Hz Gain 3.0 dB Q 0.900Filter 2: ON LSC Fc 130 Hz Gain 2.0 dB Q 0.700Filter 3: ON PK Fc 240 Hz Gain 3.0 dB Q 3.000Filter 4: ON LSC Fc 390 Hz Gain 1.9 dB Q 1.700Filter 5: ON PK Fc 550 Hz Gain 0.5 dB Q 1.000Filter 6: ON PK Fc 1200 Hz Gain 1.0 dB Q 1.000Filter 7: ON PK Fc 2000 Hz Gain 2.0 dB Q 1.000Filter 8: ON PK Fc 5800 Hz Gain 2.0 dB Q 2.000Filter 9: ON PK Fc 7200 Hz Gain -1.0 dB Q 2.000Filter 10: ON HSC Fc 11000 Hz Gain 2.0 dB Q 0.700I like what I'm hearing thus far. Am I doing this correctly? Is this the layman's "endgame"? I don't see what more I can configure to make the sound better.
>>110277615$20 shitphone https://a.aliexpress.com/_mOH1etp$15 shitdongle https://a.aliexpress.com/_mrbQ1mr$3 shitbuds https://a.aliexpress.com/_mO4w61t$5 4.4mm https://a.aliexpress.com/_m02WuNt
>>110277802>I like what I'm hearingThen don't go any further. Only you can decide what's good for you.
Hi guys, I'm using Moondrop Lan II Pop IEMs with an iPod 5.5g that my gay uncle gave me, I was thinking of getting a good DAP that could drive them well, and then some as I might look to upgrade my IEMs too later on. But first, I would like recs for a DAP.My budget is 500 dollaryroos.
>>110278057get either a $50 shitplayer from aliexpress or if you have to spend $500 get the cayin one with r2r and tubes
>>110278153>500 get the cayin one with r2r and tubesisn't that an amp/dac
>>110278402Cayin has a tube dap and a dap with a swappable r2r module but not both
>>110264081Should i get the btr25 or should i wait for the qudelix 5k plus to be available?
>I wish my iems were wireless>if only someone made a brick with bluetooth that I can lug around and plug my iems intowas this really a market niche or just e-waste being cleared out of warehouses
>>110278798you're a consumer of buttplugs. you really have no opinion on what anybody else spends their money on.
>>110278833uhhhh buttplug?
>>110277981for the castors did you get the harmon or improved bass version? I regret buying the harmon, I just got them and the bass is kind of shit.
>>110279034just turn the switches off and download more bass
lol
Windows auto puts my DAC into 32bit/48khz. Is this fine or should i put it to 24/48 instead? Are there compatibility issues with 32bit? I don't produce, only listen to music
>>110279131>Those aren't close lil retardo
>>110279291you're not greentexting right. regardless, of course they're close. insertion depth isn't taken into account, but they're both harman iems at the end of the day.
>>110279326nta but those are significant differences
>>110279291>>110279335>assuming the intent of the post with no contextmistake #1
>>110279357>kzigger>the intent of the postTo shit up the thread of course.
>>110279618>thread shitted up>projectionyou're itching to get the new thread baked.>inb4 more thread shitposting
Why the FUCK is KZ so much more goated than EPZ??
>>110264081I am currently developing a new speaker that you clamp to your jaw. It uses bone conduction. The best part is there's no need to stick anything in or over your ears.
>>110279631>literally starts shit for no reason at all >projectionInstantly vindicated >>110279618Go ahead, make another worthless post to make me more vindicated.
>>110279641Unless it's wired it's not new.
>>110279357>>110279618gweilo, Don't forget the original intention ofusing earphones is to enjoy music勿忘 使用耳机的初衷是享受音乐
Don't forget the original intention ofusing earphones is to enjoy music勿忘 使用耳机的初衷是享受音乐
>>110278798That is literally how wireless in ear monitors work.
>>110279131shitbros we just keep winning
>>110279791thing is those are needed and connected to ZOG headquarters miles away sending SPLC talking points and lyndon johnson briefings, bluetooth bricks are connected to the device in your other pocket
>>110279728LOL what are you even on, psycho? bahahahah
>>110279894This is always how these threads end, anon
EPZ TP55 or Aune Yuki?
>>110279999nice quads. get protocol max
Reason why connect HD600 to TA-66 K11R2R 1-bit SoX DSD256 upsampling>Reason one>Reason two>Reason three>Reason four
>>110280158Of course the headpos doesn't know anything.
>>110279894>>110279922Shitted up the thread again award.
pigged out again. feel dirty
>>110280008So it turns out that crinear protocol max and EPZ TP55 are actually the same.
>>110280352Im probably going for the tp55 becuase I like the purple case.. thiugh the aune yuki with is 16 transistor array is intriguing. I just dont want to pay $200 for that.. There is also the aune yuki SE.. now this competes squarely with the protocol max/tp55..
>>110280352>belief that the chinks invest more engineering effort than is strictly necessary to cut costs as much as possible.I do not recommend checking 1DD shitbuds segment
>>110279999new endgame dong from Acoustune
endgame cable from brise audio
>>110280455>>110280455>>110280455
gate or pure?
>>110277981>$20 shitphoneis the audio export good? what about snowsky?>$15 shitdonglei have a ugreen dongle, will that do? or something cheap like the kiwi ears allegro mini?>$3 shitbudswhats the best in the $20 category?>$5 4.4mmwill any 4.4mm cable do?a fiio/snowsky could double as both a shitphone and a dongle right?
>>110279618^This guy knows.
