pag pag bros?

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Mid Tier
$5 shitbuds
$10 shitbuds
$20 shitbuds

High Tier
$3 shitbuds
$4 shitbuds

Top Tier
$1 shitbuds
$2 shitbuds

God Tier
$0 shitbuds

/iemg/ Dogma Check
Tired of the hivemind? Here’s your prescribed sanity dose:

>Crinacle is not your priest.
Rankings are a guide, not divine scripture. Your ears > his spreadsheet.

>Harman and JM-1 ≠ perfect.
It’s a preference curve, not a law of physics. Some genres need deviation.

>Chi-Fi isn’t magic.
Great value, yes. Immune to QC issues and hype cycles? Nope.

>Graphs are not sound.
They don’t show staging, dynamics, or fit. Use your ears, not just squigs.

>BA ≠ metallic, DD ≠ perfect.
Implementation matters more than driver type. Always has.

>Meme sets aren’t the whole hobby.
If it’s not shilled 24/7, it might still be good. It's highly encouraged to form an original opinion.

>Disagreeing ≠ cope or deaf.
Let people like what they like without foaming at the mouth.

>Loud posts =/= smart takes.
Confidence without experience is just noise. Show graphs, impressions, or both.

>Cognitive dissonance.
When you're presented with a truth that threatens your entire perception of the world around you, your brain will simply refuse to process it.

This has been your scheduled break from pos groupthink. Hope this helps

>>110246207
Can't define "quality" btw.

If you dont know the pagpag memes you're just a newfag

>>110246201
Chu 2 is the goat.

>>110246202
Interesting take. The only emotion I can think of that would cause someone to be this invested in attacking people that pay more than $5 would be some sick form of envy.

What jealousy and FOMO does to a motherfucker XD

https://desuarchive.org/g/search/text/pagpag

Learn your own history newfag

>>110246215
Based

>>110246219
>I can think
Can you?

KZ Castor is still $3 if you haven't ordered yours yet

>>110246235
How bout you step away from the PC for a few minute? You seem agitated

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Your grandpas portait

>>110246243
>What jealousy and FOMO does to a motherfucker XD
He said calmly.

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Aliexpress guide: tap these 2 things once daily and let Xi Jinping do all the spending

Could you guys recommend some cheap (around 10 buckaroos) bullet iems that have detachable cables? I almost bought the KZ ED9 Pro but I then noticed that the cables are not detachable :(

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The more things change the more they stay the same

>>110246202
You are poor

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>me bought Topping dx5 ii for my first dac experience
>i also noticed 4.4mm QC issues are serious more than i expected

>>110246271
The one bullet that had them got discontinued. Nothing like that until twistura sigma.

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>>110246298
You thought calling 4.4 a meme is a meme? Think again.

kasier is out but where is the x hangout.audio tonic tanchsisters?

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I wish this thing was a bit cheaper

>>110246271
I don't think you realize how tiny they are, 2pin won't fit. Maybe mmcx.

>>110246328
but i want to listen to music with the replaygain enabled
anyway i'll check his video later, thank you

>>110246317
>>110246397
Man fuck my life, do any of you actually own this "KZ ED9 Pro" one? Do you guys think the cable is sturdy?
I'm really tall and some of my jeans have deep pockets so most cables end up getting strained, my record was destroying the shitty samsung earbuds (back when they came with one) in one month.

>>110246442
Just get regular IEMs bro.

>>110246442
Just get aftermarket cables bro

>>110246468
Non-replaceable cables nigga.

>>110246476
oh fug

>>110246442
It's $3, man

>>110246271
Fengru wt2 or XSL e3000/e4000/e5000 (Final's counterfeit)

>>110246587
>Fengru wt2
1BA is crazy.
>>110245883
Doesn't let you upload your own target, fug.

>>110246560
Damn, THREE whole dollars?? In THIS economy??
>>110246587
Thank you for the suggestions, that's exactly what I'm looking for. I'm just worried a bit about the nozzle diameter since they look wide and stubby, I have some KZ Castors and I can't use them for more than an hour or two without feeling pain inside my ear canal, those are quite wide (5.5mm I think).

I've been using the truthear hexa with wide bore tips and have liked how they sound. Considering "upgrading" to the kiwi ears septet since they caught my eye, what kind of difference should I expect with them and what dac should I get with them?

>>110246442
>>110246758
For what it's worth I've had my ED9 Pro for about half a year and used as my daily driver for most of that and there's no sign of the cable breaking.

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>>110246906
They usually happen due to cable strain, I mentioned being tall because of that, since it's more common that the cable will often get stretched to the max when walking.

>>110246770
Septet is better by far, but for that same price you should probably look at more options first

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>>110246921
The cable is overkill compared to the earbud. I used my ED9 Pro for months plugged into my chinkheld. Probably slept on it and tugged it a few times. Nothing. At the time I didn't want to listen to music or deal with shit like dongles and earwax, ended up listening to vidya music ingame with them for a while.

>>110246969
Also I was surprised when I started to listen to "real" IEMs again and how I didn't miss out on much. A lot of it was subtle technical stuff like midrange presentation or imaging/separation that I'd waste time and effort thinking about. Subbass and soundstage are there on ED9 Pro without EQ. Maybe the vidya music was forgiving.

>>110246949
Such as?

>>110247411
I guess you could save a considerable amount of cash and get truthear pure

>>110246670
>Doesn't let you upload your own target, fug.
Damn, wasted potential. Have to eyeball it again.

My iPod 5.5 gen lags bad when I apply an eq preset in Rockbox. Could it be the fact that it still has a hdd or is it just the low processing power that fucks it?

Do iems go on sale during black friday?

>>110247676
Not a lot compared to 11.11. I remembered browsing amazon last year and barely any iems were discounted.

>>110247676
Most of this stuff is already on sale. For them 11.11 is black Friday. Maybe if u are shopping boutique brands that are not from china.

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>>110246202
the Veil shall be lifted soon

Genuine question but do you guys actually keep and use multiple different pairs of IEMs? I just bought my second pair as an upgrade and now I'm left wondering what I'm going to do with my first pair. I guess I'll try and sell them online

>>110247890
If you EQ'd one to perfection, you don't need any others at all :)

>>110247890
if sound is different enough u can left it and use it from time to time just to change things. If difference is not that big or your new pair is much better and u like it more u will end up with 1 pair used daily and second pair left in box. Tbh more than 2-3 sets (headpos included) that sound vastly different and I have that feeling that im not using this stuff enough. Currently own 2 pair of headpos and pair of iems, mostly using just 1 pair of headpos that i really like and iems went to marketplace, maybe someone will buy them as they sit in the box.

>>110246219
i mean there must be some correlation between correlation and price but definitely the improvements are logarithmic a 100 usd pair uf buds is may be 10 times better than a 10 usd pair, but the same is not necessarily true for a 1000 pair against a 100 pair, you feel me?

>>110247935
the advantages, if noticed, are mostly incremental at best. $10-100 can be drastic depending on the IEMs but not every $100 set sounds that much better than every $10 set. Same with $100-1000. It's not always drastic or noticeable and not every $1000 set sounds like $1000

>>110247890
For me its
>iem for background listening
>iem for music
>iem for gaming
>iem for tv and movies
>iem for outside
>iem for gym
>iem for running
>iem for work

>>110247935
objectively, from a purely acoustic engineering standpoint, there is no correlation
is there a correlation in terms of build, fit, sound signature, etc that might influence preference? maybe

is there anything in the 200-300 buck range that is actually a marked improvement over the 20-50 buck range

>>110248028
lol. yes.

>>110248028
probably is if we are talking about build quality and accesories. Maybe if u want airy bright sound stuff up there with better quality drivers can deliver smoother treble without rolloffs. But for vocals or bass, I dont know. Seems like DDs are still king in this kind of stuff and u can get good driers much cheaper

>>110247935
The concept of diminishing returns really trips up those new to audio. They think that just because diminishing returns exist in other fields audio must have them too. But not really. Audio is more like inverted parabola. There's a product that is "the best" and everything above and below it is worse. That's because the parameters to optimize are all well known, they're either solved in the cheapest price ranges and degrade in higher price merely to stand out(distortion, weight), or remain as a personal preference forever(FR). There's no diminishing returns on the size of your shoes.

>>110247890
I kept the interesting ones and sold the redundant ones.

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>>110248054

>>110248054
the best iem...?

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*sigh*

>>110248169
The best shoe size? If you think there's a single IEM that everyone will agree sounds the best you're wrong.

>>110248364
and yet headpos was solved with the 480 pro

>>110248378
Lol.

>>110248017
>>110248054
wait a minute, so it is all preference?

My preference is what has techs

>>110248393
Yeah, even in speakers. In IEMs and headpos it's magnified by HRTF, acoustic impedance and fit. Impedance and fit is why an IEM/headpos can sound worse even if you know your preference.

>>110248394
but every beach has sun and sand and ocean. i've even measured the sand density, and the differences are small enough to where you wont even notice. some are cold (bad) though, but if you know how to travel you can avoid that

atmosphere is in the humidity readings and weather reports

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>>110248169

>>110248217
I wanted to rape my ears with symphonium helios once, almost bought used. Looks like new stuff lost that chunky apeal

does anyone know if there is anything similar to the Tanchjim revo's where they go over the ear and not in the ear?

how much worse in terms of sound quality are the airpods pro 3 compared to Sony's wf xm6

>Budget
~$150-200
>Intended use
Pretty much anything but rap. Will be using them while commuting (train/foot) with my JM21.
>Frequency response preference and music examples
I listen to a lot of J-pop, new wave, rock, prog, folky stuff like Tom Waits.
>Past gear and your thoughts on them
I'm finally replacing the FD-15s I've had for about three years. I really liked them, but the cable gave out a few months ago. Fiio's replacement cables are all way too expensive relative to the cost of the IEMs themselves, and my $40 replacement cables just crapped out. I'd rather just buy a new set of IEMs than keep replacing cables. Thanks in advance for any recommendations.

is castor better than edc?

>>110249505
Castor is too bulky and got really shitty fit so if you want to upgrade from EDC Pro, look elsewhere

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Multikilopos Alert

>>110249619
Resin still going piss yellow after few years. Myth is made out of metal atleast

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Endgame build:
$20 shitphone https://a.aliexpress.com/_mOH1etp
$15 shitdongle https://a.aliexpress.com/_mrbQ1mr
$3 shitbuds https://a.aliexpress.com/_mO4w61t
$5 4.4mm https://a.aliexpress.com/_m02WuNt

sox -t wav - output.dsf rate -v 11289600 sdm -f clans-6 -t 8 -n 8

>>110249032
I haven't heard the FD-15, but Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lite graphs very similar to it, so should sound very similar, at $250. So does the $20 Waner 2.

>>110250199
2DD is objectively worse than 1DD

>>110250391
It's only 75 cents per driver.

>>110250391
>Endgame build
is this a joke?
>pic unrelated
oh it is

>>110250199
Alternatives for the dongle? Can any dac dongle work?

>>110250420
My black pearl is out for delivery

>>110250445
so you haven't tried it yet? what the fuck are you shilling it for?

>>110250459
For the same reason I bought it, it's $15.

75 cent KZ drivers are endgame

When you realize price is inverse to quality, you can increase quality by spending less money.

>>110250408
Why stop at 2DD when you can get 10DD with Decet

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Cayin RU7 is a $150 NOS dac
TRN Black Pearl is a $15 NOS dac

I'm expecting tenfold increase.

>>110250502
Castor has 4DD at $3.
Decet has 10DD at $18.
Do the math sweaty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCfzKWuRQmw

Unfortunately he missed the mark completely. Loudness is not the only purpose of the amplifer. The amp is there to provide power for peaks and when using EQ to boost which would require negative preamp gain.

>>110250516
>eqing needs headroom
why is science still in the dark ages? my boomer grandpa knew this

>>110250512
Castor is 2DD sweaty

>>110250527
And Decet is 5DD per side hurrrrr

>>110250444
get a 4.4mm screw-on and plug it into the amp

>>110250523
Your gramps probably lived in an era where he had to actually understand eletronics to power his equipment. Not these days when a macbook air can technically drive planar magnetics to deafening volume

>>110250552
This really is a dark ages if you're that retarded about science.

broscience > boomerscience > asr brownoid "science"

>>110250535
Hence why it fucks Castor

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Post yfw all science is plagarized from broscience. They literally rip that shit off a bro and pat themselves in the back. Fucking info communists. We gotta shove them back in the locker before they ruin everything.

This is literally why we invented patents, to prevent scientists from stealing our stuff.

>>110250631
You joking right? Patents tell exactly what what shit is and how it works lol, anyone can mimmick that shit now

>>110250659
We want scientists to have it, not to pretend they own it like what you're doing right now

>>110250668
Scientists work for corpos these days and china can just steal that shit.

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>>110246386
I just found this DAP now on Aliexpress (it seems not authorized shop there)
official: https://fosiaudio.com/ja/products/dap-neo-mp3-player
>3.5mm output and Bluetooth (SBC only)
>16gb for $80, 64gb $120
i personally interest to Hidizs ap30, but both DAP haven't LDAC and balanced output though

>>110250516
You missed the mark completely. A constant tone is the highest level signal for a given volume. In real music the peaks only reach that volume at best. Pink noise is whole 12dB quieter than a pure tone. If an amp is shitting itself on music it will shit itself much harder on sines. Want to simulate EQ preamp? Play the sine louder. There are signals that can stress the amp harder than sines but they resemble real music even less than sines.

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Reasons to preconvert your redbook audio to DSD256 on a 128GB microsd card with sox:
1. Your RU7 doesn't get as hot because it doesn't have to upsample on its own chip
2. Your TRN Black Pearl disables the Cirrus hump and turns off its filters, saving precious battery life
3. Pure 1-bit pathway
4. Gives your $5 shitbuds the source they deserve
5. Free as in freedom
6. The silicon has a chance to rest
7. Seals the deltasigma backdoor privilege escalation

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>>110250718

>>110250745
trapeze was a good animu tho

>>110250523
>>110250563
Your grandpa lived with speaker amps that only had 20W of rated power, which was not nearly enough so the gain had to be increased and a prayer for music to have less peaks was read. The headroom was how much can the amp be pushed above its rated power. Literally nobody does this anymore.

>>110250718
>saving precious battery life
Nigga forgot that the battery is in the phone, not in the dongle.

>>110250715
Low sensitivity planars require more current than the apple dongle for transient peaks at comfortable listening volumes with EQ boost.

>>110250890
Can you not read? A sine is louder than the peaks. You could have just said it's not loud enough for high dynamic range music, you wouldn't be wrong. Saying it can't handle peaks is 100% wrong.

>>110250890
And if you're EQing without negative preamp for some ungodly reason you'll have clipping on every amp.

this kind of test would be better if he just used something harder to drive - like planar or high ohm dd overears, and then measure FR with different sources. Because there is this meme (or not) that some headpos scales with more powerfull gear, especially in bass region. If that is the case it should be visible on FR charts.

>>110251005
When said in the context of using hd600 and similar DD pos with tube amps the FR does change. But not from the power, from the output impedance. Tube amps actually have fuck-all power which planars easily reveal. When said in any other context - actual mental illness. Failure to see the correct pattern. Also happened with distortion. They heard that 3rd harmonic is worse than 2nd so they thought even harmonics must be good and odd harmonics must be bad. In reality it's just the higher the harmonic the worse it is, because it's masked less.

>>110250925
Do the math for the apple dongle US version 1 Vrms into HE6 at ~85db/mW, 50 ohm, with -5 preamp gain, and check the max db SPL.

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Anyone tried this flatpos?

>>110251112
That will be around 85dB.

An additional problem lies in the way these things are described by community. Reviews of various sources, amps, daps, dongles make it seem as there are massive differences between these devices soundwise. Like with 2 differently tuned headphones. In reality differences are so small that I just couldnt tell if there is any with stuff I tested.

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$5 Shitbud Alert

>>110250718
>The silicon has a chance to rest
This is peak retardation

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>>110251212
>Like with 2 differently tuned headphones.
Reviewer niggas do that even when absolutely nothing has changed. Hearing a difference in everything is what untrained niggas do.

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chinks are selling weird stuff

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kek

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$5 Shitbud Alert

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Rolled the rectifier tube for the Allnic 300B today. Swapped out the stock Electro-Harmonix for a Stradi 5U4G.

Because the Stradi tube is larger than the stock tube it came dangerously close to hitting the metal support rods of the tube cover and consequently introduced a ton of microphonics in the form of a fire crackling noise. But once I removed the entire tube cover the microphonics disappeared.

Compared to the stock, the Stradi tube is audibly warmer and more analog-sounding. Mids are more liquid and dynamics take a hit. The stock Allnic 300B had a slight V-shaped "tube sparkle" on the top end, which is now mostly gone with the Stradi tube. Overall I can't say whether I like the Stradi 5U4G or not - it may be too relaxed for my tastes, but does live up to the hype.

I'll try to bring in a pair of Takatsuki 300Bs next.

Got a new job recently and i dont really interact with anybody face to face so im pretty much just listening to music the whole day. I bought the moondrop old fashion on ears because iems make my ears hurt after extended usage and so far theyve been pretty good. Being open backs helps too since sometimes people do come up to me and im not completely blocked from the world

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Pigged out again.. i dont feel so good

memes aside, whats a good iem under 100 bucks

>>110251117
what does it do?

>>110251708
zero2?

>>110251649
Grats, I just demoed this today. Subbass is quite impressive for a earbud (but mids are goddamn muddy its like the viking weave draupnir all over again)

>>110251790
The resonator gives it uniquely strong and deep sub-bass apparently. got curious enough to buy it

pigbros not like this

>>110251794
which one?

>>110250459
He's excited to get it. What the fuck are you being a bleeding vagina for?

>>110251708
Hexa

>>110251649
>$210 for flathead buds
y tho

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>autoeq'd edc sounds less bassy and worse

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Hey guys, is the Simgot EA500LM still a good option in the year 2026? I was looking for something with good instrument separation and good detail in my headphones, and I heard that these IEMs are pretty good when it comes to these things.

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>>110252497
>autoeq

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My old earbuds are done.
I want at least, the same sound quality.
Modern equivalent?

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>>110252055

what IEMs have like layered sound (each layer of sound feels like it was put on top of sound)? sorry don't know how to describe it...a sound that sounds like you're listening to a song/music live

whenever i use iems it sounds like the sound is coming from inside my ears. why is that?

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>>110252674
Because it's coming from inside of ur ear. If u want better sens of soundstage go for open backs or even better, speakers

>>110252560
ET142

>>110246192
I got hand me downs IG955 from my younger brother.
They sat in a box for the past 5 years with a broken 3.5mm jack.
Finally had time and tools to fix it.
He is still using that galaxy 8 but now with Tangzu or KZ somethings idk.

That said I wanted to try rootless viper4android and load some convolver profiles from autoeq.
None of them sound better than factory.
What am I missing here?

>>110251790
It resonates. Duh.

>>110252560
Yes.

>>110252770
But that's a bad thing.

>>110250199
>endgame
Not with this faceplate.

>>110252560
Just be careful if you are sensitive to treble

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>>110252576

Just be careful if you can't/don't EQ.

>>110253297
If you don't EQ you're FUCKED.

>>110253439
Not really

my girlfriend stopped fucking me once i started EQing, so that's just wrong

$3 shitbuds and nos dongle is peak

>>110253979
Why do you have two dongles if you're only listening to one at a time?

>>110253979
Also, why do you have two DAPs if you'll only be listening to one at a time?

>>110252560
it's still very technical for the price but sounds quite intense, you don't want to listen to it at high volume

>>110254168
not him but i play the same song on both my daps at the same time with only one ear piece connected to each

Gee Bill

Yo dawg we heard you like dongles

>>110253979
If you have a RU7 connected to another RU7 playing into the same earbuds, does that become DSD512?

>>110204544
Set from H mode to AB mode, that disables power saving

>>110254381
Nothing should be listened to at high volume

>>110252560
Artti T10

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Qudelix 5K Plus released in Korea

>>110255730
https://gall.dcinside.com/mgallery/board/view/?id=newheadphone&no=2587907

nice brick

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I'm on my 2nd pair of Tanchjim Bunny's and the left one sounds slightly louder than the right. I had to return my 1st pair because it had issues with the mic button. Should I just say "fuck it", give up on the Chinese brands, and buy some EarPods or Sony MDREX14APs from Best Buy?

what happen if no eq?

>>110256092
did you try cleaning your ears and the shitbuds

>>110256102
I tried cleaning the buds with rubbing alcohol, paper towels, and a toothbrush. I've also tested both buds on the same ear.

>>110256100
you can still enjoy audio without it

>>110256120
spend another $15 on third pair of bunnies

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i'm sorry, but every time that fucking low end hits i cant help but guffaw, facepalm, shake my head and quaestion reality.
what the fuck did they do to that low end BA?

>>110256375
thank you for picking good pendulum as far as albums go

Do any of you own kilopos? Which one(s)? Show and tell!

>>110256375
BAs are shit at bass on their own, so..you did it to yourself

>>110246192
I ORDER THE BTR17 IN ALI AND FIIO JUST ANNOUNCED THE FUCKING BTR25 FFS.
SHOULD I CANCEL MY ORDER AND BUY SOME SHIT TIER DAC AND WAIT FOR THEM TO SELL IT ON ALI??
I just want a dac that has multipoint bluetooth so i can switch from my phone to my pc seamlessly

>>110255730
AND THIS TOO I WAS ABOUT TO BUT TS AS WELL.

WHAT DO I CHOOSE /G/??
I FUCKING HATE THOSE ASIAN FAGGOTS WHO MOCK ME FOR MY POOR PURCHASE CHOICES.

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that guy has no idea what he's* talking about
going on assumptions
just a shame he'll* never experience and thus understand what i meant

*sorry if i got your pronouns wrong

>>110256474
directly reply to his post so you don't seem like a tard

desperate for (You)s
if you can't figure out which one i'm referring too, that's a you problem
evidently, a (You) problem too
that's what $5 shitbud plastic fumes does to your brain

>>110256517
lol fuckin retard, does being a paypig actually mean you have your own lore that everybody has to automatically pick up on?
my point still stands, not directly replying=yelling at clouds. enjoy your sense of self importance while it lasts, I guess

>>110256474
I was tempted by all BA sets but bass memes and so on. Tho i think going from open backs even ba bass easlly beats them.
Symphonium Helios still has sovl

>>110256441
BAs are shit not just at bass. Hopefully microplanars kill this shit for good.

>>110256819
DDs are the quintessential subwoofer, though.

crinear daybreak for less than 100usd new? good deal or what is your recommendation in budget 150usd (bit more than that as I have 50usd off from 150usd). I would like something with metal shell or full resin build tho

>>110257018
you get less treble "resolution," if you step down to the nightfall which has full metal shell. besides that daybreak is the better iem imo

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>they don't double wrap their IEMs

>>110246192
still enjoying my $27 pair of moondrop chu II thanks for asking

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You get what you pay for.

>>110257081
>daybreak is the better iem imo.
how?
>>110257120
>"THD is meaningless for most things"

>>110257180
>"THD is meaningless for most things"
Cope for bad purchases.

>>110257018
Odyssey 2? It's like 150gbp rn. Idk what that it is in usd but shouldn't be much more

>>110257213
its 210usd on linsoul and 150 usd with code, metal shell tho. I don't know, Sound is about what im looking for.

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What's a good alternative for Dunu S&S? The larges fit my ears perfectly but they make my Hexas stick out too much.

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Where does your pos land.

>>110257185
People that took measurements of "high THD" IEMs will also state they sound very good at the same time so you're talking out your ass. THD is still meaningless for most things

>>110257295
>People that took measurements of "high THD" IEMs will also state they sound very good at the same time
Skill issue.

>>110257317
Low effort response issue. I accept your concession

>>110257373
No issue on my part. Normgroids love absolute garbage all the time.

>>110257376
You're just too cool for school, huh

>>110257213
I guess I can just go with Reference but I don't know, this zigaat feels like good option too and its cheaper

The oinking is getting louder all of a sudden.

>>110257599
Must be coming from your $200 amp.

>>110253269
this but the truthear gate

Best sub 50usd IEM to buy as gifts for my normalfag family?

>>110257749
The cheapest one with the highest THD

Imagine oinking for hours only to get outskilled by ED9 Pro and Castor

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>>110257807
Imagine using an IEM without a fox.

>>110246251
is there a guide on
>Get daily coins from widget and gogo match, do saving wednesday, grab sale/saver coupon, grab store coupon.
also does it work on alibaba as well?

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decakilopos alert

>>110257807 > >>110246246
You are a brown leftover-eating pagpag

>>110259210
your body couldnt tell the difference in a blind test

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>shitbud alert
>pagpag
>price inverse
>paypigs
>pos
>autoeq
>$5
>endgame
>fox
>science
>tips
>free
>dongles
>techs
>thd
>quality
>flac vinyl dsd
>kilopos
>$3
>aliexpress
>headpos
>dap/pmp
>mW
>khz
>dB
>3.5mm
>1DD
>youtubers
>graph

Why is price inverse to THD?

>>110257749
Chu 2 or Chu 3

>>110260265
THD is already inaudible on even the cheapest pos so decreasing it won't make expensive pos stand out. But increasing it will.

>>110260439
Then why can't $400 buy low THD but $5 can?

>>110260521
Something tells me you already know the answer

>>110260608
Spell it out for us, Yoda.

>>110260521
You can buy a $5 IEM if you have $400.

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My gigas 1 came in.

For $50, bought it for fun, maybe as a portable amp to pair with my dongle dacs when I'm traveling.

Build quality not bad for the price, it's small, looks like a toy compared to desktop amps. Big ass knob which I like.

With moondrop dawn pro as DAC, 12V power supply which allegedly delivers 4.6W, it's hilariously overkill. Have to severely turn down source volume to avoid blowing my ears out on low gain, for both iems and my hd6xx. I'm going to bring it over to a dude who has a lot of planar headphones and see if it'll do the job.

Sounds good, no complaints. No hiss on any of my iems.

It does warm up quickly on 12V, but stays cool at on 5V. I might stick some aluminim heat sink on it anyway.

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starfields are dead after a shitty fiio amp killed them. haven't paid attention to IEM FOMO since then. are we getting the same quality for cheaper now?
what's a good replacement for the starfields? if they're under 50 bucks, give me a nice V-shaped recommendation to buy too, so heavy metal music has more impact.
don't recommend shit that hasn't proven itself, or worse, isn't even out yet

>>110260627
Nice, looks like a perfect match for PR2

>>110260635
Just get a new one bro https://www.ebay.com/itm/267790162209

>>110260627
I was thinking about something like that - Moondrop dawn pro 2 and va galvatron from AliExpress or that aune class a portable amp

I'm stuck with xduoo xd05pro and it's kinda boring.

>>110260622
Then it wouldn't be $400. Thanks for proving my point and your concession has been accepted.

>>110260674
Or maybe Cayin ru7 for that 1bit r2r goodness.

>>110260674
The Aune magnum? Its even more insane than the Gigas 1, with a lot more features. I thought about it too, but have irrational fear it's going to just blow up because its too much power for its dimensions.

>>110260637
Complete overkill, but it's $50 why not. The volume knob is nicer than the step volume buttons on most dongles too

>>110260724
>Then it wouldn't be $400.
And? $400 can buy you low THD. Just don't spend all of it lol.

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$5 Shitbud Alert

If you have $10000 the best IEM in that budget won't cost $10000. This simple fact is lost on many people.

>>110260813
Correct. Just save the $9997 and walk away.

>>110260761
This one. And nice dongle dac with line out, I already have dawn pro 2.
But I already have xduoo xd05pro and swapping it for that Frankenstein combo would be too much of a hassle.

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>>110260825
Forgot pic. Other option was venture electronics galvatron and I was thinking about gigas too

>>110260627
Why did you buy that pos (6xx)...

Do we accredit "Price is inverse to quality" to Crinacle?

>>110260825
The gigas can't compete with those features, and it's got no batteries so you have to carry a power bank if you really want portability. Though you could recreate that meme with the guy in the subway with his "portable" stack, tapping together your DAP, dawn pro 2, gigas, and a power bank. Be warned it gets hot to the touch.

>>110260885
Not the worst with a bass shelf honestly

>>110252497
You still bass boost after autoeq...

Buying cheap IEMs (typically under $20–30) is often discouraged due to poor quality control, subpar components, and limited technical performance that can hinder the listening experience. While budget models offer a massive upgrade over standard earbuds, they frequently suffer from issues that make them a poor long-term investment for serious listeners.

>>110261201
>Quality Control and Durability

Inconsistent Performance: Budget models often have poor left-right channel matching and quality control issues, such as filter problems or loose cables, leading to unreliable performance.
Short Lifespan: Cheap IEMs may have a very short lifespan due to low-quality materials, such as non-detachable cables that break easily or ear tips that degrade quickly.
Poor Accessories: They typically come with low-quality, poor-sounding eartips that can compromise fit and bass response, whereas more expensive models include a wider range of high-quality tips.

>Audio Performance Limitations

Artificial Sound Signatures: Budget IEMs often rely on exaggerated, "fun" sound signatures with super bright highs and artificial bass, while struggling with the fullness of vocals and natural timbre.
Lack of Resolution and Separation: They struggle with instrument separation and resolution, often sounding impressive in simple intros but falling apart in complex choruses with many instruments.
Hardware Limitations: Cheaper drivers cannot replicate the speed, detail, or dynamic range of premium drivers, meaning EQ cannot fix hardware limitations like lack of bass extension or treble harshness.

>Value and Diminishing Returns

The $100 Threshold: Many audiophiles suggest that buying cheap junk is expensive in the long run; starting with a slightly more expensive model (e.g., over $100) often provides significantly better tuning, build quality, and accessories with diminishing returns setting in much later.
Better Alternatives Exist: For under $50, specific budget IEMs like the Salnotes Zero or Moondrop Chu are highly recommended as they offer balanced tuning and better build quality than generic "chifi" options, avoiding the pitfalls of the lowest price tier.

>>110261215
>Salnotes Zero or Moondrop Chu are highly recommended.
Not for at least the past couple years they haven't been and still won't be going forward.
How do you come up with this shit?

>>110261215
OH, this is written by a clanker isn't it?

>>110261266
Of course

>>110261262
I'll reiterate: OG Chu and Zero are fine for what they are. Can't really say they are "bad" in 2026, even with EQ being put into the equation. But nobody is buying them anymore solely based on the hype from a few years ago since stock tuning has a constant refinement year after year.

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$2 ED9 Pro has great soundstage so I plugged it to my desktop rig to enhance it

>>110261333
get a pair of those greeting card speakers at this point

>>110261333
$200 amp
Literal garbage.

>>110261333
Nice coffee machine

$2 amp endgame

No, u don't understand, I really need that expensive dongle with bunch of audiophools features so I can pair it with my 2 usd "random cheap driver, random lenght tube, random chamber, random eartips marvel of acoustic engineering" shitbud

Kiwi Ears Astral or do I stretch my budget to the Tea Pros?
I will be using them for music and gaming

What is the most affordable dongle with PEQ without any hissing noise?

>>110261595
What do you currently have?

>>110261607
I have the Hexa and the Aria Snow.

what is the japanese asmr iem

>>110261621
Tea Pro is only ~$60 more than Astral, and it's not really an upgrade over it by any means whatsoever. Go with the cheaper and better all-rounder, Astrals.

>>110261631
https://final-inc.com/en/collections/oh-smr

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$5 Shitbud Alert

>>110261636
Sounds good thanks

>>110261631
Dolby Atmos speaker setup

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>>110261585
This but unironically. I needed a dongle with NOS function so I can listen to my DSD256 bunny-to-mega5est peq 44.1kHz upconverts. And it was worth every penny of $15.

>>110261775
What is that gaming toy thing? Is that one of those r36s things or Anbernic or something?

>>110254059
My RG Nano has a 128gb microsd filled with bunny-to-mega5est peq upsamples and my AP80ProX has a 200gb microsd filled with castor-to-storm upsamples.

sox -t wav - output.dsf rate -v 11289600 sdm -f clans-6 -t 8 -n 8

>>110261775
Use case for downgrading your sound quality with DSD?

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>>110247890
Honestly I have little else to spend my coins on. They expire after 6 months.

>>110261893
>DSD
it's just turning a track with an already low dynamic range and slapping on a low-pass filter while bloating the file size astronomically.

>>110261745
We have established countless times that Astrals are garbage btw. Do your archive reps.

>>110262046
>We
Not even. You're the only person that's vehemently turning people from Astrals as a reccomendation for no apparent reason other than an arbitrary treble peak that irks you.
It wouldn't be in the consoomer guide if it weren't a legit recc now would it?
https://consoomer-guide.pages.dev/iems-(220-400)/

>>110262102
Call me retarded if you want because I'm new to the hobby but if there's a treble peak that bugs him couldn't he just eq that out?

>>110262267
You're actually calling out their retardation, so good job. Besides, no meaningful information in recorded audio exists in that peak.
It only affects the possible "air" and "sparkle" of what is unlikely to reside in a serious portion of the treble area. If anything, if there are intended imaging cues in that peak, they'll likely boost the psychoacoustic aspect and make the set appear more soundstagey.

The shitbuds you should be looking at are chu2, waner2, zero2, castorpro2, pr2, titan2, sr-001mk2, galaxy buds2 and as12

>>110262358
>pr2
PRX is the more logical purchase over that. Still a good suggestion, though.

>>110256122
>>110260622
>>110262022
Endgame is when you spend $22 on chu2, waner2, zero2, castorpro2, pr2, titan2, sr-001mk2, galaxy buds2 or as12.

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Be sure to upsample your Chu2 to 11.2 on your Black Pearl revision 2.

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Where to put music? On the 512.

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A great cable is the Kbear ST12.

>>110262385
To you, sure. To everybody else, no.
>>110262416
No benefit whatsoever

>>110262602
Checked. $22, Chu2, 11.2 and ST12 confirmed goat.

Everyone get your Black Pearl revision 2 at https://a.aliexpress.com/_mrbQ1mr

My PC doesnt have bluetooth and I always used 3.5mm port but now I got a XM6 as a gift and I want to use the bluetooth. Are those cheap 6.0 bluetooth usb dongles good enough?

https://www.amazon.nl/-/en/UGREEN-Bluetooth-Headphone-Keyboard-Speakers/dp/B0DYV5MPLF

>>110255730
chifi > gookfi

>>110260957
Crinacle literally never believed that.

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$5 shitbuds are goated meta

>>110263099
Why did you pay top dollar on overpowered amps for shibuds?