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>>110270687some companies are better than others
>>110270687>got new job 2 months ago>work 3 on 4 off (weeks) and make 200k$ hanging up access points and installing antennas>go to work in a helicopter (offshore rigs)Lol this shits all over the office cuck jobs I've had before. My eyes feel so much better now that I'm not staring at a screen all day anymore. Tradies are rough as guts but at least I can be racist and sexist as fuck around them.
As a former Softie I can confirm that their coding practices are shit. It's part of the reason I left. I got tired of dealing with the stupidest shit while on call.
>>110270687What is the lore behind /twg/ and /utwg/ OPs using videos of femoids at FAGMAN?
>We need to t-shirt size these tickets>here's the range of hours of work per t-shirt size>so convert your hour estimate into a t-shirt size>okay now we need to figure out how long these tickets will take>lets convert each t-shirt into how many hours it will takeliterally, what's the point?
>>110270839tiktok bait to make more people click, that's it
>>110270721Sign me up I already do all that shit
>>110270839should be pretty obvious if you think about it for two seconds>tiktok videosshort form content designed specifically to maximize your focus and blast you with as much information as you'll tolerate within your short attention span>femoidsobviously gets more attention and usually a few comments like "SEEEEXXXX I NEED TO SEX HERRRR MY PENIS IN HER POOPER!!!!" (bonus points for asian / indian)also females are seen as generally less competent than men in tech so their opinions are received with entertainment / disgust / outrage >fagmanprestigious jobs that everyone wants for the benefits and salary. someone else having a fagman job while you don't envokes feelings of jealously.combine all of these factors and you get:>this stupid femoid sharting her stupid opinions got her job at fagman because she's a foid, why couldn't it have been me? It's so unfair!!! her opinions are stupid!!! SEX MY PENIS IN HER VAGINA CUM CUM CUMthese comments tend to lead towards more entertaining discussions than the usual "i hate my job and want to kms and move to a larp farm in idaho and never touch a computer ever again"
>>110270839funni
>>110270721I use to have these job but it was too much gay sex so I left
>>110270722I thought you left because you had no friends and were tired of eating alone every day
>>110270923I said part of the reason. There were many. It was an overall pretty bad experience.
>>110270687Notice how it's always an asian playing into this rat race shitThey're losers
>>110271029No they’re just the only ones who can pass the classes
>>110270687asians are so fucking ugly. why do you mentally ill faggots keep posting these ugly mongols/pajeets>>110270839some faggots trying to kill this general and the site as a whole. most likely shartyfags. they even have "guides" to "troll" 4channers... bunch of absolutely pathetic retards
>>110270966Was it the body odor and onions/curry secondhand smoke?
>>110271062Like I said, there were many reasons.
>>110270687PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP GET PREGNANT!!!!!!!!
>>110270839people here are resentful of women who get jobs that they're unqualified for. it's arguable that you can't tell based on the videos that they're unqualified for their job, but i'm guessing they're right
>>110270839One guy rage-baiting and samefagging in the threads to drive engagement.
I know nobody cares but I'm giving up on software engineering and studying again at the ripe age of 28.It's clear that I never made it far enough in this career to filter out people who just meat proxy and hit enter monkey on AI with zero thought. There is no way out as any vertical mobility has been destroyed. I am also willing to bet that these jobs will no longer be feasible in <2 years. Working with AI over the past 2 years has ruined me. My brain definitely quits far faster on hard problems than it used to and I'm no longer capable of critical thought. What should I become? What's a good technical profession that's safe? I feel so lost right now. Any advice welcome.
>>110270687>waaah! I'm getting bullied on the internet by literal children!!
>finally got a job>everything i touch is barely holding on well past end-of-lifeAshes to ashes, rust to rust.
>>110271561Don't worry about it, love won this election and the politicians will be creating a job distribution soon
None of you have ever had an IT job. I am thoroughly convinced that you're all a perpetual stream of new grads doing prompt engineer shit and failed all of your actual engineering courses. Most of you have probably never used a desktop computer before.
>>110271788>None of you have ever had an IT jobYeah, because I am a software engineer not some geek squad guy setting up printers
>>110271561You go over every line the AI built and understand all syntax precisely and compare the AI written architecture to other potential architectures right? Software developers still need to perfectly understand the code they can just generate it now. It's not like we're going to get to the point where AI will get good enough that lawmakers will think it's fine if it uses a non human readable AI programming language and no one has to understand how programs function anymore because the AI will do it goodly 99.9999% of the time or whatever.
>>110270891Real men move to a turtle farm in Cambodia.
>>110270721Sounds based. Too bad it's fake. You'd make about 80k doing that in real life.
>>110270722For me it was a mix of this and the absolutely balls to the wall insane amounts of politics at every turn. In my org they expected us to work 12h a day as well but that was whatever by comparison. Shit pay, too, compared to other FAGMANs.
>>110270687she still has the mind of a middle-schooler. how did she get a job at microsoft?
>>110273317Have you noticed that she has a vuginah?
>>110270687I feel bad for her.
To the muritards ITT: if you choose not to watch and engage with ragebait videos then they will stop getting views and money. You guys are retarded as is your entire country.
>>110273451quiet poorfag
>>110270687Why would you care what aura your company has? How is the pay compared to your workload? That is all that's matters.
>>110273798Some people really need to delude themselves that the workplace atmosphere is more important than what the pay gives you.
>>110273451we should report the ones engaging. this shit is literally off-topic.
>>110270687i work in a supermarket
recently I learned that my company keeps job adverts online after hiring someone and keeps scheduling recruitment meetings and blueballing applicants just in case this new hire bails quicklyis it normal?
>>110274334yes
Why do some coworkers directly paste a question written by claude at you? This makes me internally go ballistic. Like, they couldn't even bother to ask you in their own words.
>>110272863>i-i'm a heckin enginooor!sure you are, pumpkin.
They just fired around 10-15 frontend devs in my company, but I'm respected BE developer on big project, how concerned should I be
Paying my pro subscription is the only reason is holding me back from going back to neet mode
>>110274510Moderately concerned.I've been doing frontend-only for around 4 months now and AI is incredibly good at it compared to backend
>>110274249It is important that you are learning and that people around you know what they are doing.
>>110273798There are a lot more to work than this. The most important thing you can do is project an aura of success in your career.
>had a ts/sci full scope clearance for like 10 years>never once approached by hot chinese honeypot spy girls
>>110275739Did you try becoming a billionaire and a CEO of a company with trillion $$$ market cap first?
>>110275911i tried yes
>>110270877how much make?
>>110273292feels like that type of work would be something a contractor type company would do. like an msp getting hired. makes it seem likeschedule would very chaotic
>>110270687i don't want to get laid off brosis it even possible to stand out as an engineer with how good ai tools are at end-to-end development now?
>>110277442I am still saving money if something happens anon. I have 6 months of savings but i really don't think that's enough in this market.
>>110277535i have about the same savings, i'll have no choice but to move back in with my parents if i lose this jobthank god i'm an antisocial loser with no wife or kids, i can't imagine what it must be like for SWEs in this market with actual families and responsibilities
>>110277619I don't have family to rely on so if something happens i am boned. If you have wife and kids then you need to consider 18 months of savings since you have more expenses.
>>110275005If people don't know what they're doing at your company, then it's a bad workplace regardless of the "aura".
>>110277442Assuming you can perfectly explain all of the syntax and output of the AI you should be able to discuss how the tooling you chose and architecture you decided on is most efficient/easiest to manage/most scalable/modifiable etc.
>Utw ded againHi tech workers, how are you all?
>>110277960Pretty great, I got the recruiter position and moved on down and signed the lease on my new apartment already. Start date was originally supposed to be a few weeks ago but they forgot to email me the fingerprint email so I had to do that (three times because the first place was having trouble with their scanner) and there was an incident at my new place of work but I'm definitely definitely going to start sometime in Novemeber I bet, just recruiter things hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
I have 3 years experience as a dev and one year working on my own online store (claude did everything).I'm only getting interviews for senior swe positions. How do I pass them if either I've always had a ticket to work from in an existing project, or claude was doing everything?I was treated like a senior at my first job but only because I knew the project extremely well.
>>110270687I'm an unemployed white NEET in the bay area. How do I bag a asian girl tech worker that looks like this and will financially support me? Any tricks you nerds have learned from working with them?
>>110278204>>110278204>>110278204
saw one of those skinnyfat dalit ass mf jeets buying protein bars at costco and almost laughed my ass off
Would love some thoughts on an offer:Current: T2/3 tech, senior title, remote, stock balloon -> 450k TC (declining to mid 300's over a few years). But it's a PIP factory, and unclear on promotion potential, toxic managementOffer: lowball of 330k TC at Google (t3 location); very chill seeming team, hybrid, work I enjoy moreAm I crazy to consider such a large TC drop? I know my current remote TC is amazing but I don't see this lasting, and every 6 mo are more layoffs.
>>110278514google raises your izzat, sir
>>110278579Jokes aside, Google on the resume is a large part of why I'd consider it, for having bigger names for when I look for my next spot; as well as internal mobility while I'm there. Unsure if I'm overvaluing the name though.I forgot to clarify this is L5 @ G, for niche SWE title.
>>110274434paste the question into claude, then paste the response into the chat window
life after high school is just waiting to be raped dailytoday i got raped by costco because i bought frozen spam musubi found out its vegan when i got homeyesterday i got raped by the deli counter at krogers charging me $20 for a pound of sliced chicken breastthe day before that i got raped by la fitness when they sent me a marketing text (after i explicitly told opted out of marketing when i signed up)
>>110270687Anyone here with a CS degree?Why do your books want to pass themselves as math but use fuzzy (and sometimes circular) definitions trying to be theorical and but practical at the same time (achieving none)?I had to teach computer vision class and the students didn't know set theory and the was book awfult. math guy
>>110279370That wasn't marketing, it was a promotional. Very different sir
I haven't opened up a single programming program or excel since graduating a couple years ago, I'm gonna be interviewing to work at a data center this week though so I hope that goes well.
>>110270687That mole is watching me
Happy Monday and 9.11 everyone!
>>110270687She created that entire video just so she could brag about working at Microsoft.
>>110279737she quit her job at microsoft because she hated itroro (that's her name btw, my future wife) spend 9 months grinding leetcode and interviewing to get a new job while working at msft
>>110270721>Spends 12 hours a day in the cold tightening bolts
>>110270687how do I get a job
there's so much cool tech to learn and implement idk how you guys can hate your jobs and want to live in the middle of nowhere farming tomatoes
i'm low IQ and installing printers for a livin. it ain't much but it's honest work. i'm thinking of quitting and just doing doordash. i'm too retarded to even learn anything new and level up. such is life in tech
>>110280004actually life in tech is when you take a 1hr shuttle ride to the megaoffice and stop by the espresso bar to pick up your cinnamon raisin overnight oats and salted caramel cold brew before arriving at your standing desk shared office space and spending 4 hours in project scoping meetings and design reviews before taking a lunch break at the oriental station to get the steak teppanyaki with noodles and spending an hour eating with your coworkers before heading back to your desk to prompt claude for 2 more hours after which you clock out at 4:30 so you can rush to the fitness center and get a massage chair before the afternoon rush so you're relaxed while you contemplate whether you should get that $1200 thuma coffee table in spanish brown emperador marble or turkish travertine on the ride home
>>110280079dam that's crazy. some people live completely different lives! i drink tap water and am in crippling credit card debt from rent and food despite selling all my free time :(
>>110280079dam that's crazy. some people live completely different lives! I don't write faggy blog posts or pretend I'm a woman
>>110280079Sounds like kindergarten.
>>110279907>there's so much cool tech to learn and implement >idk how you guys can hate your jobs and want to live in the middle of nowhere farming tomatoesWhen I worked for big tech companies you had to fight with them to do anything interesting or new. It was this awful maintenance treadmill and mostly and administrative BS. Literally all the new stuff I did was at home on my own projects. Most people here actually hate their jobs *because* they love tech. Being a corporate employee isn't that different from being a corporate customer. They fuck both sides over.
>>110280218refactoring retarded spaghetti code into something decent is very satisfying tho
https://www.tiktok.com/@wolf.moots/video/7705129645552815390
>>110278076Better start on the leetcode bucko
I've been a software developer for 10 years and I can't do it anymore, I'm going insane. I'd gladly halve my income for the freedom to work whenever I want and without pointless meetings.I've been looking into alternatives but they all involve business and marketing skills more than tech skills. Freelance webdev sounds easy but I doubt rambling about online presence to local businesses would get me any sales. Is there any hope?
>>110279853HARK! may cthulhu take this man for lying about 200k instead of 50k
>started a new job last week>joined with 4 other people, all joining as part of the same team>one said team members makes a slack channel for the 5 of us since we're onboarding together and going to be working in close proximity, aligned on projects, etc.>everything goes smoothly for the first few days>friday night, going into the weekend, teammate posts a message in our slack channel saying they had a great first week, wishing us a great weekend, etc.>the following day one of my teammates moves that message from our private channel into the general channel with all of the employees in our department>posts a message saying we should only use that from now on>one of the senior members says that small private slack channels are actually fine>team member who moved the message proceeds to have a meltdown and blow up, saying he doesn't want to be on the same team as the person who made the private slack channel any more or else he's quitting>reiterates this several times even including screenshots of himself emailing HR, managers, etc. but everyone has DnD on for the weekend so he's really just talking to himself>mfw I wake up and log in to see this first thing in the morning>and he's still melting about itNever seen anything like this in my entire life. It's difficult to even describe what's happening because I don't even understand what pissed him off so much to begin with.
>>110282077That person wasted his blackmailing chip way too early and is having a meltdown because of it.
>>110282077Another part that's crazy is that he's trying to leverage his position by saying he'll quit if he doesn't get what he wants, because he's clearly already gotten himself fired trying to pull this shit
>>110282106Again, he is an autistic loser that tried to use his blackmail chip and say "SEE THEY ARE SENDING PRIVATE MESSAGES!" If the company doesn't let him go then you should look elsewhere, because such a company is run on blatant blackmail
>>110271561Not that I care but I don't think there's time for you to study anything else. Nothing's safe in a few years. Prepare for that.
>>110276858Pretty much. It's gig work, and its nowhere near 200k a year, lmao. You either have too much work, or none at all
>>110278514You are Indian.
>>110279872I wish I could tell you fren. I've been applying to places left and right with no luck and I supposedly live in one of the best places for tech. Granted I only have an associates but I'm working towards my certs right now. I'm hoping it's worth it, it probably won't be in this market though, but I already paid for them so fuck it.
>first OA in a while>3 mediums in an hour>fail the fuck out of one of them that was written like an ESL translated itThe fuck.
>>110279872Not the answer you want to hear but unless you have connections through family, school, or previous employment you basically just have to get lucky. In other words you just have to keep applying in the hopes that you'll land something.
>>110282077tldr?
>>110282422>>110282502>>>/g/utwg
>>110282543I'm onboarding at a new company with 4 other people and one of the new onboardees is having a very very public meltdown and threatening to quit because one of the 5 of us made a private slack channel to talk in separate from the general slack channel
It’s fucking Monday.Mini-midweek-weekend can’t come soon enough.
Basically insisting on highest standards and shit is useless, just launch early and get good goy points from your leadership and all is good. Leadership won't know you do a weekly operational script and that you get 10+ tickets on daily basis related to your launch even after 2 years
>>110282077Mental illness ans/or autism, everyone creates private channels for closer coworkers or even people you specifically work with in a project or something. What kind of autism is this?
>>110282077>>110282747Or what part are you hiding because people think autistic don't make it past the behavioural interview.
>>110282747>>110282771I'm not hiding anything. He seemed perfectly pleasant when we all working together in person that first week. The whole team even went out to dinner and he was cracking jokes. All of which is another reason why this is so weird to me because he just switched up out of nowhere, AND even if he is going to be mad about this I don't know why he's so mad that he refuses to work with the person who made the private slack channel. It's not like we made a private slack channel and then singularly excluded him or something. Everyone did everything to include him and make him feel like one of the team.
>>110279872do you look like this
>>110282846I look like this
>>110282504I had a friend refer me to the same recruiter that helped him get the job and I've been in contact with recruiters and still no luck. I don't even know if connections actually help anymore.
>>110279872>>110282422>>110282504i have 20 years of experience. in 2025 the number of resumes that i had to send out was 100x what it used to be. i also had to keyword-match custom resumes for every job that i applied to in order to get past the ATS. once i got a job i realized that the company had been looking at thousands of resumes, all of them complete shit. so they need engineers badly but can't find them. AI has basically broken the role/candidate matching market.
>>110282814He is a autistic social snake trying to get brownie points by revealing that you had a private messaging between colleagues.what he didn't account for is that revealing secret logs means nothing if everyone is just laughing and shit talking with no evidence of fucking over the company, so now he is raging because his blackmail attempt failed hard and he made himself unworkable to be around for zero gain
>>110282885The problem is that companies allowed HR to just automate the hiring process, and doing that just leads to companies never actually finding anyone as AI just filters everything out
>>110282935its not a one-sided problem. they are automating the resume filtering because job seekers are using AIs to apply to thousands of jobs without reading them. they are being completely fucked by slop
the whole concept of "resume" is probably going to have to go away, and i don't know what replaces it.
>>110282077>just got an invite to a team wide meeting from leadership for this afternoon>coworker who had the meltie is the only person not invitedGrand openingGrand closing
>>110282951Oh yeah that is part of the problem too, especially for foreigners spamming inboxes. >>110282964I'm thinking it will be. A resume cap, like 100 applicants only or something at the start and no more flooding and mass rejections. I also think it might end up reverting to the muh firm handshake and result in on day of the month being some 'hiring day' where applicants line up to physically put their applications in before being chosen at a later date to come in
>>110282964Skip the submission, do a series of tests every quarter for 4 years to prove competency, then get a piece of paper saying your qualified for the industry so its auto accept.
>>110282990>A resume cap, like 100 applicants only or somethingThis would not work. You wouldn't find any good candidates. I'm telling you these companies are sifting through thousands of garbage resumes.>Oh yeah that is part of the problem too,It is the core core of the problem.>some 'hiring day' where applicants line up to physically put their applications in before being chosen at a later date to come inThat could actually work, but you'd have to figure out how to select the people that come in.>>110282999That's exactly how getting a job for the city works. You take their tests or whatever, and then you go into their system, and then they email you when they have listings out. I think it's fine.
>>110283046>That's exactly how getting a job for the city works. You take their tests or whatever, and then you go into their system, and then they email you when they have listings out. I think it's fine.The main issue with this one is that it takes you six months to get an interview. It's actually crazy.
>>110282964Peer rating like that black mirror episode
>>110282551>he doesn't job hopHaha stupid goy raped slave
>>110283155job hopping only works when you work at no name companiesonce you reach fagman you lose money job hoppingyou'll get there one day, champ
>>110283087Six months IF they don't just close the job opening and reopen it to begin with.the problem is that company HR is run by idiots who didn't see this coming and instead just decided to do the most easy automated route possible. Now any resume that shows an above 5th grade writing level is auto rejected for being "AI" despite ai detectors being generally shit
>>110283155>be at company that pays well, good culture>job hop because ‘that’s what you do’only retards believe this
>>110283155That strat ended in 2022. Now any major place hiring clamped down hard on that
I've been looking for jobs near me I just hit 5 years of time at my first job post college. But there is just nothing and my job is so useless it doesnt help translate to the jobs that are around me it's tough out here
what's with tech ceos and asian girls?
>>110283346Yellow fever, and tech ceo's are extremely autistic work-only losers who can only talk about their job and nothing else. All you need is an Asian woman spy and knowledge of Wikipedia to get tech CEO's to fall head over heels
>>110283346>tech ceos>being faithful to anything but money
If your work moves data or material between two machines, AI is going to eat your shit.If you're in the middle of machines and people, you have a chance, for now. If you're in an adversarial position where it's humans-atop-AIs against humans-atop-AIs, then that's where things get interesting.
>>110283488Fuck off back to utwg.
>>110283153Honestly, that does sound like something that could happen. You have a database or a registry or something, and employers are allowed to put your info and comments in their qualifications and whatnot. You'd have a lot of litigation to jump through because that sort of thing is extremely illegal at the moment. Some would say that it's unconstitutional.
>>110283177>Six months IF they don't just close the job opening and reopen itNo, the way it works in my experience is that they keep emailing you about new openings that you match for based on the assessments that you've taken. And they keep emailing you for like a year. I actually do recommend it, getting into the system if you live in one of these cities. My trouble with it is a lot of city jobs are windows server and I have no knowledge or interest in that shit. It's totally foreign to me.
>>110283518happily employed but running as fast as possible into the management track to get away from the IC/SWE/smart hands jeetrealm.
>>110283178It is correct. Job hopping is how you move up in rank and get in bigger salaries and negotiate and whatnot. Probably less of a good idea right now given that the market isn't so great. One of my favorite ways to lose a job now is to have the company go out of business or downsize. So that's really the thing I'm looking to avoid.
>>110283542Smart move. Once you turn 40 or 50 or whatever, and you're not a manager, they're going to think you're a washed out dummy or something's wrong with you. You can get as old as you want as a manager though and it's all good. There's no ageism in there. My problem is that I'm too retarded to manage people.
>>110283566People are easier to program than computers
>>110283548If you can’t manage to pull intra-company advancement, you’re just not very valuable. Simple as.
>>110283583Sounds like you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. A lot of companies do not want to give out raises. They don't want to do it. They don't need to do it. You haven't quit yet, have you? Why would they do it?
>>110283593You either need to be your Line Manager's Strongest Soldier or find another line manager for a diagonal hop. You can't just hope to rack up enough Good Boy Points by quietly working hard. Nobody is truly irreplaceable in capitalism.
It’s okay to use company time to shit when I’m recovering from a coworker’s Diwali party, right?
>>110283593I get a raise 1 or 2 times a year. You don’t?>you just don’t know!!Yes, I do. Through the miracle of the internet, it’s pretty trivial to do some comparative analysis of salaries.
>>110283628"Boss makes a dollar, I make a dime..."
>>110270687Hi, guys. My name is Artur. I am new to 4chan. Cool discussion; I think tech is cool. 4chan is kind of weird because why are there no profiles. cool spy stuff like the nvidia ceo chinese thing
>>110283682Wait till you find out about the cute and funny.
>>110283613Or you get an offer somewhere and then you show it to your manager and see if he can get you a counter offer.
>>110283640>Yes, I do. Through the miracle of the internet, it’s pretty trivial to do some comparative analysis of salaries.Sorry, I didn't realize you had access to the internet. You must know a lot about this.
>>110283720Never do that.
>>110283720>"Hey honey this other woman said she'd suck my dick three times a week. Care to make a counteroffer?"Good luck buddy.
>>110283705What
>>110283729You can do it if you're serious about accepting the offer if they don't match what you're worth.
>>110283734That company would dick you over the second that they thought it would make good sense for them to do it. They don't give a shit about you. They're not loyal to you at all. If you're smart, you know that they know that you're out for your own best interests and career too. If you hire top talent, you expect this type of thing from them.
>>110283739What's the gain there? Even if it works out, some-fucking-how, that you're in a situation where>1) You are strategically important enough to issue an ultimatum>2) An ultimatum is the most optimal strategyYou've landed yourself a marginally fatter paycheck doing nothing new and have branded yourself bad with the scarlet letter.
>>110283762It's not about the moral weight of loyalty. It's about tipping your hand. Companies may understand, factually, that you're an economically rational actor, however if you can't maintain the illusion of having some commitment to the task (and, more importantly, the people who are directly responsible for you getting your check signed) then you're doing yourself zero favors.It's specifically because organizations are so mercenary that it's important to maintain loyalty to networks.
>>110283771I don't know what to tell you. I've done it, my coworkers have done it. >>110283791It obviously depends on the situation. Jumping ship before you've accomplished something, leaving the place better than you found it, is pretty stupid, unless there are some particularly bad problems. And in which case, they probably get it.
>>110283705OUUUUHHHHH
>>110283533If the pay is there sever side shit windows or linux is fairly easy for a starting position. It gets way more complicated the higher up you go but nothing they do seems as complex as computer networking on the high end.
>>110283939Totally. But as someone with decades of Linux/Python/Cloud experience, I looked at this entry level Windows Server test and didn't know a single fucking one of these things. They have a completely different set of terms and abstractions they are using.
>>110283736pedophilic slang for specific genitalia of a child.you're in hell. lurk more.
>>110284065happy to say i don't know what that is
>six meetings today>4 of them before 12 pm45m "sync" at 9 am was so brutal
>>110284065Back to tiktok and unalive yourself.
>>110270721>platform sinks>fishes are busy biting your penur
>jeetess nepohire at my company>fresh out of diploma mill college>been working here a few months>consistently comes in an hour late, takes an hour lunch. Leaves 2 hours early>absolutely useless. Can’t do anything on her own. Even after almost a year, if there isn’t someone else at her desk doing her work for her, nothing gets done.>mostly just sits on her phone>her desk is right next to mineHer uncle is director-level, so obviously she’s untouchable. I know it’s not any of my business, but every day I see this girl it just makes me seethe. I know within a year she’ll be in management.
>>110283542>he thinks management is safe from jeetsretard alert
>>110284694
>>110284694These poojeetas are rabid for the bwc so you can solve your problem creatively.
>>110284733This sort of thing has never appealed to me. I don't really want to spend my whole life hanging out in there. I just want money and then I want to take the money and I want to go the fuck home.
>>110284694I've met several people matching this description who spend a few months struggling to get integrated and eventually soft-quit. If she's been chillin' for a whole year, that's actually impressive, I have to respect it.
>>110284874It's izzat farming to show off to their coethnics. Showing off how little you do at work / how much you waste the company's money is the femjeet equivalent of acting cool on train tracks.
>>110284910There's nothing in this video that indicates to me that she's not doing work. If anything, she's doing the whole company culture thing the way they want you to, and its going to help her do well.It's similar to the guy who shows up to all of the after work social/beers, versus the guy who goes home and doesn't do any of that shit.
>>110284959Here I'll help you>skin>gender>age>appearance>behaviorYeah she isn't doing shit.
fable 5.2 is out
>>110285023Fable 3 was shit and the new fable won't be any good with all the mutts. Why would I want to play fable 5
Realistically, what's the future of tws? I'm a junior dev, graduated last year, got an intern through a friend of a friend and they're already talking about firing everyone
I'm heterosexual so whatever this woman is talking about doesn't concern me.
I hate working so much bros to the point where I basically just invest and only spend on essentials because I can't fathom trading years of retirement neeting away for having a nicer car or whatever people spend money
>>110284959>It's similar to the guy who shows up to all of the after work social/beerNone of that matters if they already have a bias against you. It's just like grade school politics.
>traveling with coworkers for a conference>sleep on the plane>3 coworkers, independently, to me later during the trip: "You snored so loud on the plane, anon"It's time
>>110285735What if you get cancer?
>>110285819I doubt people with cancer wish they drove nicer cars I don't know what else there even is to spend it on besides trips which are like the one thing I think is a good use over investing
>>110285735If it makes you feel any better 80% of the successful F.I.R.E. people end up completely aimless and retarded fucking up their lives or fortunes in one way or another.Unless your goal is permaneeting (in which case, Godspeed), the 4HL is a good foundation to build your life on.
>>110285879NTA but if I had FIRE money, I'd just spend my time practicing guitar and piano and reading old russian novels
>>110285910i've been telling myself i will do this and that and learn these things and those things but on the weekends or vacations i end up doing nothing. i rot inside.
>>110285910You'd be surprised how quick you get sick of that life without a very solid spiritual core or some other purposeful grounding that keeps you going day to day.FIRE while raising a family is also nearly impossible unless you really ball out early in the payoff space, and even then women don't tend to like purposeless husbands so you gotta have a really sturdy psychic foundation.It's a lot of work to do nothing all your life.
>>110285927You should, the hardest part is getting started, once you have momentum it becomes easier and easier>>110285943Women also don't like it when you're always at work. As the buddhists say it, the middle wayThat being said, I think I'm in a place now, at 29, where I know who I am as a man. I have a strength, confidence and spirit to figure out, if I had the resources for it, who I really am without destroying myself. The only problem is I'm poor af and in debt. Realistically, AI is gonna rape me in the near future
>>110285943>You'd be surprised how quick you get sick of that life without a very solid spiritual core
>>110286018>Women also don't like it when you're always at workWell, the 4HL or W2 life at least gives you consistency. I'm not saying we found The Good Life by being goycattle but there's nothing wrong with a good normie life. As far as the day-to-day suffering it's a lot better than what any of our ancestors would have expected.
I like my job (remote and I generally work alone and unbothered all day) but lately the fact that I'm significantly underpaid has been grinding on me. I've been getting more and more responsibilities thrown on to the point that I'm independently managing important integrations without any oversight. I enjoy the independence but I'm in an entry level role and my supervisor has been dropping hints that I should not expect much of a raise or promotion this year. I'm pissed that I have to start applying for jobs again and will probably have to accept a hybrid or onsite position.
>>110286068Remote work still exists in the US?
>>110286068>I've been getting more and more responsibilities thrown on to the point that I'm independently managing important integrations without any oversight. I enjoy the independence but I'm in an entry level role and my supervisor has been dropping hints that I should not expect much of a raise or promotion this year.get another job. that's how you get raises + less responsibilities.
>>110286081Only for about 6 months longer
>>110286088In this market?
>>110286108the "if you can" is implied
>>110282077UPDATE:>just had a meeting with entire team and leadership about the situation>apparently the situation is even worse than I thought>he was legit threatening and insulting people on the team over slack on the weekend>I didn't know because I had slack muted and the messages have been deleted
>>110286125I said entry level role didn't I
>>110282077I don't use slack so maybe I'm misunderstanding. When you say private slack channel you just mean a group chat, right? So this would be equivalent to him being mad that someone had a phone call instead of talking in a wide open room with everyone, or the existence of a meeting room? Does he think no one should ever communicate unless every single person at the company hears the spoken words? I don't understand
>>110282077>>110286144was your coworker on drugs, drunk or some shit?also, how did he not get fired already?
>>110286068Unfortunately, salary isn't really 1:1 with responsibilitiesStart interviewing for jobs and see what is out thereYou will either find a new job that aligns better with your expectations or have a new appreciation for your current job when it is hard to get a better oneIf it ends up being the latter, try to appreciate you are trusted and probably have better job security than other people on your team then just keep learning and keep interviewing until you get a better job it takes time especially early career and in this market
>>110282077Reminds me of a discord channel I got put in as an intern and some troon started screaming in it about no one but he should have the permission to ping people because it gave him anxiety. He acknowledged he could mute the channels he didn't want notifications for, but that was also unacceptable for whatever reason. He then proceeded to bitch about a local bar having a sign that said "ladies and gentlemen" because that was a literal genocide against him
>>110286279There's lots of reasons why a job can suck but I find 90% of the time its the coworkers and the fact that you MUST play nice with them, and that includes being forced to acknowledge their existence off-hours, if you want to keep your job.
>>110286088Did you read the end of my post? I took a sick day to start applying to jobs today >>110286081Yeah at my org there are are a lot working remotely. mostly in management. But yes I kind of lucked into an entry level remote role. But now I've been seeing things like mediocre onsite teammates getting promoted way ahead of me, which seems to send a message.>>110286256Thanks anon that is good advice. I do appreciate and take satisfaction in being trusted to handle my shit. But the company I'm at is almost comically disorganized as a corporate entity so there is a lot of frustrating uncertainty and dysfunction to deal with.
>>110286308lol codemonkeys are pathetic. grow a pair
>>110286068If I was childfree and WFH I'd definitely jobmaxx and take 2 or 3 like has been suggested.I'm in a similar boat and could've job-hopped a lot over the past few years to bump my salary pretty significantly, but clinging to a full remote gig while I've got a bunch of little kids is pure gold.
>>110286446Yeah I must be doing the WFH thing completely wrong because I'm working a single job doing 9+ hour days. I fucked around and became too reliable.
>>110286498Could always fuck around and day trade or whatever depending on your employer.
>>110270687thoughts on this: >>>/int/226140610
>>110286775Thoughts posted
I swear to fucking god it feels like everyone is constantly talking in code over slacknone of you people talk like this in meetings, why do I have to read your message like 8 times and spend an hour looking at the code to understand what you're saying
Sorry, but how exactly does this spy thing work for Nvidia? First of all, anyone working on corporate would easily tell you all of the technical details and designs don't make it past the first layer of management. It's utterly ridiculous to expect the CEO of a company to have ANYTHING useful related to the technology they have other than the end executive smart shit of results only, costs, performance etc.Direction? Numbers? Plans? Maybe, but expecting designs is cartoonish shit. My guess it's another jewish trick because the west is unable to admit that maybe other countries can actually do shit too without stealing from them. Its literally the same with the Chinese models claiming they are made of chatgpt prompts based on absolutely nothing.
>>110270687I'm sick of this place. Stop with the bullshit. Try to mature a little bit and stop posting basedcaf OPs.
>>110287018next op is gonna be fire, dw
>>110287008Ooh big Jen I love your knowledge it's so sexy, please show me the masks for the gpu dies, I love those designs
Who tf is in here at 9:22 PM EST on a Monday? Is it all jeets and Euros?
The official emoji commisionary dignitaries should add an emoji into the next unicode release that looks like a link to "https://google.com/"In that way, if you reserve a domain with that emoji as the first character in your domain, it would look at first glance like a url under the google domain.
>>110287454its 6:28 pm in the only state that matters
>>110287454When is an appropriate time to be on 4chan in your esteemed mutt opinion
>>110287477But enough about British Columbia
>>110287486I'm hiding from my wife and playing runescape do you think I care about esteem little nigga
>>110287496hiding from wife - maximizing productive time. optimalplaying runescape - dumping hours into a grindy game with low time ROI. suboptimalcalling people "nigga" on 4chan - effective at establishing youth. ineffective at asserting dominance. suboptimal
>>110286245I can't comment on the drugs. Maybe he was drunk at one point, but from what I was told his meltdown went on through the entire weekend. It's not like he said some wild shit Saturday night and then sobered up by Sunday and apologized.>how did he not get fired alreadyHe did. He got fired before noon today.See: >>110282970>>110286205Yes, it's just a group chat with a few of us because we were all onboarding together. None of us have any idea what set him off or what he was mad about. Even the people that saw all of his weekend tirade still don't really know why he was upset. One of my coworkers suggested that he may have had a mental health crisis, but again it's not like he had a negative mood swing and then apologized the following day, so I don't know what to make of that.Prior to this probably the worst thing any of us would've said about the guy is that he asked a lot of questions.
>>110287523That's fair enough boss. I'll try to work on those KPIs for the next review in 6 months.
it feels so good to be unemployed after 6 fucking years, man...
>>110287555wrong thread buddy
>>110284544>calling yourselves out as Nvidia interns>officially rankedYeah that's a quick way to get terminated
>>110287555hit the road dudethis aint no unemployed threadthis is the employed thread
>>110287561>>110287631you jelly fagsI WILL NEET, and you CAN'T DO SHIT about it,
>>110287555aren't you worried about making rent
>trying to read code from a dude that's been at the company for 15 years and doesn't use AI
>>110287818I imagine that is pretty easy to do.
>>110287689nah, I have my own (shitty) house and enough savings to live for about a decadeI'm worried about not being able to do something to survive long term, though, because I think my career is over (no degree, no certs, tons of competition in the market, too old, companies firing people in my position). I do have some personal projects, but... so far I've done almost nothing at all.
>>110287834take some time to yourself anon, you'll find a way
>>110287827swift has had some very interesting developments over the years and a few funny but powerful libraries turn it into strongly typed python.>delegates + protocols let you abstract away responsibility for implementing a protocol to a dynamic runtime object>"combine" framework lets you sub to changes on an object and publish changes to subscribers using property wrappers>senior developers love these patterns because it makes API / SPI development incredibly easy>it's impossible to read>object A has three variables>two have property wrappers on them>every time those variables get updated, some object listens to the updates and runs it's own code (bonus points when it's async code or anything over a network)>good luck tracking the 50 variables that have pub/sub wrappers on a god object and all of their changes>that object can also push that update to it's "delegate" to have that do shit with the update on it's behalf>compiler can't figure out what object points to what because it can be dynamic at runtime>you just have to look through all 15 objects that implement the delegate methods and the 900 mentions of their names>or use AI>or know how the code worksthere's been a million workshops on avoiding these patterns and there's new framework replacements that make this stuff obsolete, but...
>>110287902I'm too stubborn for that. I really need to finish something. but you are right, I SHOULD take a month off or something.
>>110287926>implementing a method*not protocol
europeans have to be the most autistic and miserable fucks to work withlosing their shit over an i or a u in a naming convention
I don't even remember the last time I've written a line of code, Claude just does everything now.
>>110288472i wonder what the future will look like for this job. i feel so replaceable, but i don't even know how to stand out now from other engineers>feelio when all the knowledge you've accumulated about software is totally useless nowif i knew things would have turned out this way, i would have actually enjoyed my life
everyday i am surrounded by brown people
>>110288881Such is life for you, Tyrone.
>>110288891Nobody give a shit, Jensen. Just give us cheaper GPUs.
>>110287827I know people like this and they deliberately use certain patterns that obfuscate code to make it unreadable and unmaintainable to anyone but themselves.
nigga its over nigga sell fucking everything and quit your six figure job to grow tomatoes nigga its all going to zero nigga
Yep anons its over. I have a strong feeling Apples is going to do 20% layoffs since every other company retail, restaurant and manufacturing is having issues already.
>>110270839it's just good ragebait. guarantee 100+ (you)s.
>>110289487Its our version of Updoots
I just don't care about work anymore.I get assigned stuff because nobody cares.The nicest thing I heard is twg telling me to kill myself.
>>110289605I just drink myself to death whenever i am not working.
>>110289605your girlfriend bro?
>>110274510Why the fuck did your company have 15 FEs
>>110288891Why does he think anyone gives a shit? I'd assume everyone at nvidia only cares about money and hopes that he didn't give sensitive info to the supposed chinese spy
I'm being asked to build a service that takes in a .txt file from a blob storage container, parses it, and then uses that information to enroll/un-enroll customers.What's a realistic timeline for getting that done?With AI tools I never know what a good estimate I can give to management is
>>110270687salaries for white males have stagnated so that companies can have adult female daycares and collapse the birthrate
>>11029025915 minutes
>>110290259obviously it depends on the specifics of you enroll/unenroll processbut parsing a txt file from a blob container is extremely simple, so just say 3 days lol
>>110290259Corporate america is hilarious, I could get that done in 1 hour, but of course with all of their nonsense and ceremony it will be a few days
>>110290286I don't get this meme>>110290375With how soul crushing big corpos are, I get it. I used to work 10x faster than I do now.
>>110289839>>110289648Sorry I shouldn't post depressing stuff. I'm burned out from job that used to make me happy, and I can't meet the expectations in private and corporate life.
>>110288510If only you knew how bad things really are
>>110289121Sounds based
I have a FAANG interview coming up and I can't motivate myself to do the leetcode grind. I have 7 figure savings. Is my life really going to be that much better going from $300k TC to $500k? I just want a fucking sabbatical
I had a dream half of my coworkers were leaving the company to go work at Cheesecake Factory. What can it possibly mean?
>>110290884why do we still have to do the leetcode humiliation ritualit's never been less relevant it's the exact kind of shit that AI just one shots without a peep
>>110290924To filter out burnouts like me
>>110290913I literally had cheesecake delivered by a coworker last week. Normally i am the one to deliver store brand cheesecake but they went to a random restaurant for some.
I have started taking my adhd meds again because I hate my job so much I cant focus
>unemployed niggers are so lazy, their general keeps dying
>>110291034how do I unsubscribe from this blog?read your shit, retard. someone asked a question and you posted this crap. do you not see how mentally fucked you are?
are you the rock that keeps everyone together or the anchor that holds everyone down?
>>110291265i am the fart that stinkst. wfh chad who showers once a week
>>110291243I talk about cheese cake in response to someone else blogposting about cheese cakeThen your dumbass nigga says dumbshit which makes you sound like a dumb brown indian shit skin. This is how you talk btw nothing but dumb brown nigger shit comes from your mouth except for DONT REDEEAM REEE. Throw your race into the ganges river nigger.
I have a rule that if I get to the point I’m doomscrolling LinkedIn I’m killing myself immediately
Did one interview and got the second round with another lined up this afternoon for some Network Engineer roles. Frens is it gonna be alright in the end?
>>110291243
>>110291366why did you post a selfie?
>>110291621>why did you post a selfie?
Imagine being a Nvidia employee and your stocks proceed to lose like a quarter of their value or so in a week because the orange tranny made dems win and then your CEO couldn't keep his dick out of CCP pussy lmao
>wireweave>structurizr>dmblThat's everything. I'm going to do it. I'm going to completely plan out my next personal project before I start just freaking making it already and having to refactor over ten thousand times.
>>110291754A lot of people at my company recently left for Nvidia. Tried to poach me even. I’m lmaoing.
>>110291893NTAI got poached for intel but the pay was only 180k LMAO.
>>110291907I would have probably had slightly higher TC (before the crash lmao), but I would have given up a lot of freedom and flexibility. Unlimited PTO and I basically work on whatever I want to right now. They also wanted me to work on something I’m not ready to work on again.
>>110291951Rumor is senior devs/programmers/coders or whatever you wanna call them left once they made bank from the TC advantage. Prior the pay was decent but not FAGMAN level's.
How come these threads have slowed down so much? Are the Americans still coping about the 2026 election?
I just woke up. Did I miss anything?
>>110292023didn't you hear? There's been announced soft layoffs at all major tech companies
>>110292023Maybe the leaf furfag finally killed himself
>>110289459apple doesn't do layoffs
>>110292062They literally just did?
>>110292023Furfaggot spam was every 1/3rd thread for about 180 posts no shit. Haven't seen him in a while.
You guys are overlooking one side of the AI replacing us thing: How happy normies are about it. They're so excited and cheerful.>Learn to plumb!!They giddily say. As if we were, supposedly, telling them to learn to code before, and now they finally had the last word and last laugh.I can honestly find no other explanation to this attitude other than they did try to learn to code, were too retarded to do so (believe it or not, its hard for many normies), and resent us.Reminds me of everyone who keeps gloating about pajeets replacing us.>ohh those entitled nerds are done! pajeets have a better work ethic, you know? they deliver the SAME THING for cheaper and work all day, work sick, and take no vacations, haha!>at my firm we fired all the entitled white guys and hired pajeets who never say no. we get the same thing for cheap! its working out great!And yet somehow all companies that do this struggle. I have hilarious stories of working with pajeets. They sabotage companies so hard. The whole reason there's still demand for white devs and it's not ALL offshored is the fact that it doesnt work.I hope AI goes the same way. I hope the stupid low IQ normies dont actually get the last laugh on this. And for what it's worth, I think they probably won't. I think the whole>just ask claude code broois a meme and that serious software projects will go to shit without engineers. Even if they make AI a lot better or improve it to the point that people don't even review code.
>>110292075no they didn't
>>110292105Can you really compete against a multimillion dollar excavator when you have a shovel anon?
>>110289121Bad for the company, good for the guy who does it. In this economy you really need to play dirty like that. Even if you are good at your job, your employer will always try to replace you with someone cheaper anyway.
>>110292120You’re next buddy. https://www.kron4.com/news/technology-ai/apple-cuts-nearly-150-bay-area-jobs-in-latest-tech-layoffs/amp/
>>110292105who gives a shit about soulless corposlop slaves, it's all been infiltrated by lefty loonieswith AI you could potentially put on a black hat and wreck havoc in revenge
another day, another tech calamity
>>110292131That's not the point. Normies don't want us to have to use AI to code. What normies want is to see us out of a job, fired, and working at home depot.If we work with AI, get things done faster and dont code manually anymore, normies still don't get what they want.If there's less software devs for each software project, normies still don't get what they want, because then more software projects will probably be created.The way normies get what they really want is if from now on, future software is done 100% by AI with some designer giving specs, and doesn't benefit from developer planning or supervision at all from someone with technical abilities. They want us gone.
>>110292194That's not what normies want. That's what miserable crabs-in-a-buckets neets and "too smart to fall for the uni meme" grifters want.
>>110292148no im notapple doesnt do layoffs
>>110292223Dude no, trust me. That's my point.The "too smart to fall for the uni meme" types, the tradesmen chad larpers, wagies who are full time in cagie + commute, the average joe who tried to learn to code and it made zero sense to him because he's too stupid, the businessmen who resents having to hire entitled white devs, AI bros, chads and stacies who don't like the nerds they used to bully making money...There's so many people who hate us. Maybe not most people, but definitely not some grifters either.The other day I saw a youtube entrepreneur influencer saying that he interviewed a vietnamese coder who typed so fast! And he said, those russian, european and american programmers living in South East Asia and making 15 times as much as locals, are done when their boss finds out!!It's so ridiculous and pathetic.
>>110292298STEM is going the way of engineering. Low pay, high educational requirements and hatred from the employer(likely jewish)
>>110292232>not trusting your lying eyesJust keep believing in the plan, buddy
>>110270687Shallow whore defending her seemingly high status.
>>110291282bharatmaxxingNext steps are to not wipe or wash your hands when you poop and to eat lots of curry
>>110270839Laughing at dumb normies posting that shit online with their own face and identity.
>>110292298Idk. My working conditions and wage are fairly okay for my country but not exceptional. Maybe it's different here in the EU?
>>110292321Maybe not. You never know. We'll see how the job evolves.It won't be reviewing code in VS code for long, that's for sure.It would be so sad if those pathetic idiots got the last laugh.>>110292398Dude, if you ask a pajeet for a feature 5 mins before he leaves, he'll work overnight to have it done by the next day.They take no vacation. They never say no. They work sick. And they make absolute peanuts.The vietnamese coder who "typed so fast if western employers found out, we'd all totally be unemployed" is probably similar. Which is why the idiot I mentioned loved him.By their standards you are entitled with an exceptional lifestyle, and they want you replaced by pajeets or even better AI.
I'm learning to be more articulate and communicate my inner processes. The top 1% workers do this, and you can too.
>>110292543I just read books out loud anon.
Forget about implementation. Just code to the interface first.
>>110292543My inner process is that of an insane person. I have an inner dialogue with lots of OCD-driven repetitions.
>>110292639same, freni feel for youi can fix the way i communicate with normies at best. my inner process is insane by normie standards. normie thought process is retarded by my standards.to be fair the ocd repetition is unironically bad for me and i work hard to prevent thatbut other than that, i think my thought process is better. and my communication with normies is a journey of keeping in mind how they will respond to stimuli and trying to give them the right stimuli, which they care about more than the content of what you say.
So what is everyone working on to stay relevant? Should I start a blog or something? I have practically unlimited Claude, cursor, and copilot, which I could do anything but it would have to stay internal. But I kind of want an exit plan from engineering, or at least from being a keyboard monkey.
>>110292908>>110292908>>110292908>>110292908>>110292908>>110292908>>110292908
>>110292853Dude. That's not how it works. JFL at this normie shit.>you gotta stay relevant bro!>learn claude, cursor, copilot, codex, prompt engineering, agentic coding...That's not how it fucking works. Those are tools someone else develops and you use them and they're made to be easy to use. I can't think of anything more normie than believing you have to "learn AI" to stay relevant as a software dev, and also meaning learning to prompt AI by "learn AI". Jfl.If you want to learn AI, go ahead. Learn AI. It's maths heavy, and it can't really be self taught for a living, most jobs ask for a masters. Unless by "learn AI" you mean learning to prompt it and use related apps. There's nothing to learn, that is designed to be easy for users and should be as easy as using an iPhone.Regarding software dev skills. First off, if AI became good enough that they could automate your job, they would, and there's nothing you could do about it. There would be no "I'm soo good at software dev, I'll still be in demand because I'm a real talented engineer!" and also no "I know how to use AI so I'll still be in demand". That's retarded. They would just have designers or salesmen directly ask the AI for the features.So what do you have to do? Right now nothing. The job didn't change that much except its more about directing AI and reviewing, but the code you're directing AI to write and reviewing is the same as always. If AI has the potential they say it has, the job will change a lot, comparable to how tech changed in the last 20 or 30 years. Then we'll see.
>>110292941One thing I've learned from my experience is that software engineers are asked to also do design, cloud engineering etc. with the help of AI now.
>>110292941Why wouldn't they have you and AI replace the designers/salesmen instead of vice versa.
>>110293028because you already work there, might as wellbut without the technical skills (cloud engineeing included), you'd be in a tough spot. you wouldn't be paid a dev salary to do design and be in meetings. you'd be in the same position as an average joe who works at home depot googling "how to get a remote job">>110293264because it would be your skills that became obsolete, not theirs. at that point you'd only be able to do what anyone can do. or not even be needed if they prompt AI directly.
>>110293334if AI can program, I assume it can do those other things.
>>110293352you need to reason about what AI can and can't doit absolutely can't take a sales job, that should go without sayingand for a business that can afford it, a designer can definitely pay off compared to slopthe hypothesis here is that software engineering will be able to be done by AI in the future without causing long term problems similar to the ones that are caused by offshoring, by getting so good that it won't even be helpful to have a softwade dev use it instead of just some non technical guy. im not saying that we're all going to lose our jobs now due to what AI can do now, that would be stupid. even anthropic devs review all the code, despite the "totally superhuman" unreleased models they have.
