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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3/B4, XT M3
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), Lancool 207/217, Flux Pro, 4000D FRAME, X50, BF360 Flow, HAF II 500, Summit, Warthog RS
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8

>CPU
Budget: 5600/X, 12400F
Entry level DDR5: 7500F, 7/9600/X, 225F
Gaming: 9850X3D, 9/7800X3D, 250K, 5800X3D
Workstation: 9950X/3D(2), 9900X/3D, 270K

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Cooler Master Atmos, Lian Li GA II Lite, Nautilus RS, Silent Loop 3, NL-LC1
Dual tower: A620 PRO SE, Phantom Spirit, NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Big Shuriken 4, Mugen 6 Dual Fan

TIM: Duronaut, MX-7, PTM7950* (phase change), KryoSheet (graphene pad)
*Be wary of counterfeits

>MOTHERBOARD
Avoid ASRock AM5 boards, CPU degradation issues still reported
Choose boards with ALC1220 audio codec when possible

>RAM
Shit Expensive bro...
Crucial RAM & SSD warranty offers refunds only, no replacements
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)
DDR4: 3200CL16, 3600CL18

>SSD (update firmware)
Shit Expensive bro...
DRAMless: (SN)7100, C925G, NM790
PCIe Gen 4.0: (SN)850X
Gen 5.0: (SN)8100

>GPU
Shit Expensive bro...
Buy the best one you're willing to pay for
Avoid poor value entry-level GPUs

>PSU
Buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
Check reviews & owner feedback
Budget: 165/180Hz IPS (24" 1080p / 27" 1440p)
HDR: discounted OLED or MiniLED (IPS/VA: motion clarity vs. contrast)
High-end: wait for brighter 2027 OLEDs /w stripe RGB subpixels

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Pure Wings 3, Arctic P-Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)


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>Price tracking
RAM: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ram/ram-price-index-2026-lowest-price-on-ddr5-and-ddr4-memory-of-all-capacities
SSD: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ssds/ssd-price-tracking-2026-lowest-price-on-every-m-2-ssd
GPU: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/lowest-gpu-prices-tracking

>GPU hierarchy 2026
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

Tier-list:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://borecraft.com/
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>Other helpful Links
Mobomaps: https://mobomaps.com/
German autism: https://www.igorslab.de/en/
Alternate to pcpartpicker: https://pangoly.com/en/pc-builder
HDD pricing: https://www.listofdisks.com/

>HDR related
Game fixes:
https://github.com/clshortfuse/renodx/wiki/Mods
https://github.com/KoKlusz/HDR-Gaming-Database
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/hardware/display-graphics/calibrate-your-hdr-display-using-the-windows-hdr-calibration-app

OLED news:
New stripe RGB QD-OLED panels with higher maximum brightness releasing in 2027 (DisplayHDR True Black 600 certified).
https://global.samsungdisplay.com/31456
https://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/oled-rgb-stripe-panels-explained-should-you-wait
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>have shitty years old TCL tv that i use as a monitor
>upgrade to an oled tv
>now my backup computer that i use as a jellyfin server doesnt display correctly
its set to 1080p but its zoomed in i can barely see the taskbar. i dont know how to fix it ive tried all the expected fixes like changing the tvs settings and changing settings in the operating system. my main machine that displays correctly on the new tv uses windows 10 but the secondary machine that has issues is using linux mint.
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>no cuck shit in the OP
what even is the point?
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should i get a 270k plus now or wait for nova lake's equivalent ?
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>>110276949
you should wait for zen 6
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>>110276955
when is it to be released?
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>>110276949
AM5 is supported up until 2029, so you won't even need to change motherboards. Wait for Zen 6/7 and get an AM5 mobo.
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I want a pc that can play most games at 1080/144 or if its a story heavy game 4k/60
The only pc part thats still salvagable is my old ram 2 16gb DDR4 sticks everything else needs to be replaced
I want a pc that is gonna be okay for the next 5 years or so but honestly i cant think of many modern games to play
The only games i look forward to play on pc are MGSV because im looking forward to S ranking every mission with better load times than on ps4 and Bannerlord with some mods to push troop limit to 5k
Deus EX mankind divided is another game i wann a play but thats also ancient
Kingdom Come 2 and Cyperpunk are the only big games i can think of that interest me that i need to look out for
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>>110276949
just wait unless it's really cheap
Nova lake's going to be a lot better before intel fully collapses
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>>110276917
>Avoid ASRock AM5 boards, CPU degradation issues still reported
My B650 Steel Legend probably fried my 7500F just a while ago. I only found people talking about it frying 9000 series CPUs though for some reason. Pretty sure I was on a 2025 BIOS. Did they not release a fixed BIOS by now?
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>>110277121
>before intel fully collapses
qrd?
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I feel like deploying Yellow Foid on Jensen would have worked a lot better if China had something to compete with them, you know?
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>>110277181
>qrd?
They spend more money than they earn and make retarded decisions, simple as
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>>110277187
Snapdragon
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New AGESA is out only for Gigabyte I want the new SMU!
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>>110277173
Sucks to hear, there was no way for us to tell the boards were risk.
Hope everything worked out in the end.
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>>110277173
B650? That is odd but there's reports of it happening on b850
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>>110277365
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Sitting here clipping Roman era coinage.
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>>110277396
that's nice and all but that comes out next year
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>>110277396
CRTiggers are the worst
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>>110277085
you need a blackwell 6000 and 9950x3d2
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>>110277085
>>The only games i look forward to play on pc are MGSV because im looking forward to S ranking every mission
well that won't be too difficult
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjjHMIYnm2Q
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>lisa su didn't cheat
AMD, a name you can trust not to fuck your wife.
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>>11027752
WOOOOWWWOOOOOOOOAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>110277450
it is out now. you're talking about gen6 next year.
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>>110277599
QD-OLED V-Stripe? What monitor? I'm waiting to buy this. I was going to get the WOLED RGB-Stripe before I saw this
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>>110277620
XG34WCDMS (Asus).

dell, msi, gigabyte, and asus seem to be the only mfrs with offerings in north america from what info i could gather.
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EVERYBODY HIDE YOUR WIFE

A 5090 OWNER HAS BEEN REPORTED IN THE AREA
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>>110277396
Where can I buy these?
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>>110277655
Oh I didn't look for 1440p ultrawide
Glad you're enjoying it, my wait for 4K ones continues
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>>110277365
I like oleds as well.
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do you think upgrading from a 7600 to a 7800x3d is a good idea for black friday or should i wait until after zen6 is announced and they start clearing out old stock?
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Jensen could win my sympathy by guaranteeing a future where pc building still exists
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>>110277782
probably not a good idea unless there's a particular game you desperately need x3d for

a guy here just bought a 7800X3D and wishes he got a 9800X3D instead
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>>110277782
wait for zen 6
that Ryzen 5 7600 is more than capable for any game
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>>110277534
AMD is honest to god computing. No tricks, no fake benchmarks, real graphics not fake graphics, the computer either fucking works flawlessly or it dies during POST it doesn't blame the applications instead like Intel or Nvidia crashes.
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lmao what the fuck
I stopped paying attention to PCs 5 years ago the moment I stopped caring about vidyagaems and got myself a laptop. Today I got an ad for a 5090 and lmao what the fuck. I remember the 480 housefires, the jet engine cooling they required, and the power draw which required a nuclear reactor, but they were no where near this expensive.
The studio I just purchased 20 minutes away from a ski resort, in a building with its own onsen, heated swimming pool, and a gym costs less than half of this piece of shit.
Fuck me it was fun when you got to unlock the two extra cores from a Phenom 555 BE which essentially turned it into a 955, pairing it with a 5770 and being happy with things at 1080p.

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>>110277782
I just did that upgrade and I'd say it's worth it. I play at 4K but I still see benefits from X3D in games like cyberpunk with lots of NPCs or battlefield 6 at dlss performance/ultra performance where you're pushing super high fps. I've also noticed it doesn't get as hot as the 7600 so it runs way quieter. Apparently the tighter voltages keep it cooler according to Gemini. Monster CPU just get it if you've find a good deal because it'll last for ages.
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>>110277903
>Fuck me it was fun when you got to unlock the two extra cores from a Phenom 555 BE which essentially turned it into a 955, pairing it with a 5770 and being happy with things at 1080p.
those were the days
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>>110277829
>>110277872
>>110277943
thanks for the feedback. just going off the op image just worried cpu prices will jack up like ram and ssd. hope jensengate flushes out before black friday so i know which way the market is going to go
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>>110277815
this
his infidelity might be the best thing to happen to pc gaming
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>have highest valued company
>be a billionaire
>have old ass menopausal wife
>nooOOoOO you have to go your entire life without any other pussy you don't deserve pussy even with being a quantrillionaire
>Comes out appropriately after they are at the top of the world from competitors tryna ruin his swag
>Men can't cheat
Jensen did nothing wrong
#myceo #standwithjensen
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>>110278022
He could have had plump pussy but instead he chose gutter oil and lincoln logs.
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>>110278022
>be gigatrillionaire
>could have any pussy in the world you want any time at any place
>fall for the literal chinese spy
Monday opening's gonna be really really fun
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>>110278022
could have just hired some hookers (and some for the wife too)
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>get divorce settlement in the squillions
>get face tits and vagina retooled
>spend last days on earth riding the buckest of mandingo niggers on a private island
what a way to go out
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>>110278022
I'm only mad because of the quality he fell for, or lack of. Jesus, why burn it down for a 4/10.
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>>110278033
holy fuck, look at that gorgeous slam pig
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>>110278347
sounds stupid.
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Is a 5080 actually worth 1000 ausbucks more than a 5070ti or are people just being insane because what the fuck man?
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>>110278453
ok jensen
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>>110278501
A 5070ti is $1400 now
Nothing makes sense any more
wait I just checked they're $1500 minimum now
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>>110278517
Women shouldn't be in charge of property, at least if the laws can prevent it.
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What do you fags even need a 5070 ti or higher for? A fucking 2080 ti still plays any AAA game at 60 fps+
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>>110276949
Wait for nova lake you retard
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>>110278687
1440p 120 fps should be the golden standard
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>>110278687
>1080p
>2016+10
Ewwwwwww
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>>110278687
>2080 ti
oh yeah the gpu that only had a $1000 MSRP
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>>110278687
And now it has dlss framegen support thanks to modders, you don't need more.
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>>110276917
Does the C925G have no issues with Mint?
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>>110278687
>bad for ray tracing in my indie games
cringe
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>>110277173
cpus are still frying on the latest asrock bioses so they don't do anything
maybe they cheaped out on the vrms or bios chips which malfunctions rarely and takes cpus with it
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>>110277903
rtx2000 to rtx4000 are getting fp16 unlocks to full speed instead of the gimped 0.5x speed set by nvidia
mvolt+ also unlocked full voltage/current/clock domain control if you have an rtx3000-rtx5000 gpu
my condolences if you haven't bought any of these gpus in the last 6 years though
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>>110276917
Got a p14s gen 5 thinkpad with 32gb of ram and stuck my 2tb ssd with fedora on it for like 400 dollaros
Thinking of getting an egpu to wait out the current ram crysis since getting a equivalent in ram and cpu that my laptop has on a fully fledged pc would put be way about budget.
Thinking of getting a good quality PSU, a mATX case for the gpu and one of those pcie to usb4 thingies for setting up gpus since i think buying a whole egpu enclosure would be a waste of money.
Its this a good plan or should i look into properly setting up a pc
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I wish I could sell my body to straight up build a new PC right now. It's crippling that I know I'll never get to freshly build a complete PC ever again in my lifetime.
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Jensen...
https://nvidianews.nvidia.com/news/a-message-to-our-company
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>>110279164
not stepping down who cares
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>>110279190
The board will make him do it, and the affair is not the issue here buddy.
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>>110279197
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>>110279197
if the state didn't want its secrets leaked it should've preemptively provided him with a comfort woman so he would be immune to honeypot operations
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>>110279256
hes a chink, he wont get together with a jewblina
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>>110278533
I paid like 2300 for my 5090 kek.


WAITFAGS always lose
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>>110278501
No, it has the same 16GB of VRAM and is only 10% faster.
The 5070Ti was always the card to get.
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>>110279278
I'll buy it for $500 or less when the bubble pops.
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>>110278501
5070ti can run faster than a 5080 with mvolt+
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>>110276917
why aren't the chinks flooding the market with cheap ram?
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>>110279474
Why would they?
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>>110279474
Scam Altman are shoving them up his ass as we post in this thread.
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>>110279474
with what ram
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>>110279489
to ass fuck the americans?
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>>110279474
they are massively supply constrained. they don't even have as much ddr5 capacity as micron, let alone sk hynix or samsung
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>>110278501
The 5080 is pointless, so no.
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>>110278501
Wait for the 5080 24GB.
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If I wasnt a waitfag I would have ddr4, a 3600, and a 2060 Super not $200 32gb sticks of ram and a $700 3090ti
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>>110276940
Lisa Su is cucking (YOU)
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>>110277903
Stop leeching peaceful country like japan, filthy migrant.
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So the gaming GPU market is dead?
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>>110280009
for now
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>>110280009
PC gaming in general is dead
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good morning tel aviv

>110280026
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best gpu for a rabbi with an anime porn addiction?
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owning an oled monitor really feels like having cutting edge experimental tech
this shit flickers and dims randomly, the other day I had a horizontal line across my display and it wouldn't go away and I started shitting myself until claude told me to run a pixel clean
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>>110280091
>feels like having cutting edge experimental tech
>described faulty technology instead
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>>110280009
It will be that way until people stop buying the components from companies who literally spit on them.

It's the same as not buying a ticket to a movie because of circumstances. Don't budge until they fess up.
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>>110280296
>components from companies who literally spit on them.
So all of them?
This "ai bubble" is proof that they can sell gpu at any price and people will still buy it
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>>110279164
Why the fuck would he write this LOL
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>>110280744
looks good to me
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>>110280744
windows 11 pro for only $25?
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I dont get it, what about the 5090 is worth that much, what is the usecase for like 99% of users?
is it just a dick measuring bubble?
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>>110280829
Vram and cudacores.
Ai bros are buying them a dozen at a time and making the money back in a week.
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>>110280829
gaymers aren't the ones driving up prices
its a combination of nvidia under supplying the 5090 and AIfags buying up multiples of these gpus for local diffusion/llm models
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>>110280848
and also chinese ""tourist"" smugglers buying up all 5090s overseas to resell them back in China for a neat profit
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>>110280848
Ye but every gamer I talk to seems to NEED a 5090
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>>110280856
they're just larpers or FOMOers
real 5090 needers already bought one in the last 18 months
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>>110280856
you need a blackwell 6000 actually
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Hello i got an pc but current case seems little too cramped and while on search i found CC-H52FW-R1 for like 60euros is that a good price for that mark ?
My country is serbia and budget is like 60euros
Current specs pic related:
And my cooler is Be Quiet Pure Rock Pro 3

I used part picker and it didnt show any issues so i guess everything will fit but im still not sure if that is really good mark or am i paying for the name.
>>110280829
If i had money for it (and other parts) i would buy newest and expensive(proven working) parts so i could relax and not buy anything for like 10years its not like i play newest games.
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>>110280009
The silicon market is dead.
There's no class of computer users that need pc's for basic work anymore. People making triple digit incomes are doing work on cromebooks without any problems where before they would get angry when the new office computer went up in price.

The schools that needed computer labs are switching over to whatever cloud service will take them and even then schools in the U.S. have stopped giving a fuck about educating students on tech literacy at all. They're teaching classes using speech to text writing on their essays and learning how to talk to the "pewter" to get it to do what the teacher says.

>"chat download x"
>"grok run y"
Good job Jimmie A+, now sign this student loan form.
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>>110280856
it's the only performance jump since the 4000 series
it's 2x as fast as the next fastest cards currently
if you want more perf, you want it, if you want max fps for competitive, you want it, if you wanna 4k max fidelity it up, you want it
if you wanted the best value gpu and could invest in time, it would have earned you money
there was no downside to buying
unless it burns up and you are denied rma
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>>110280856
gamers are retarded and larpers
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>>110280009
And the CPU market
And the RAM market
And the SSD market
And the HDD market

If I was to buy most of these things today I'd pay more and get less than what I did last year or the year before that or the year before that

Look at OP, AMD are planning for losses in PC shipments, calling themselves Datacenter first, Jensen is selling GPUs to chinese spies in return for sex, it's all gone to shit
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so now that china had all of nvidia's secrets, how long before i can get a 5090 on temu for $500
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>>110280744
The 5090 worth more than 8000$
He's a good boy
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>>110280009
it will be all SoC moving forward
we might not even get a RTX 6090
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>>110281206
CPUs went down in price and will continue to go down for at least a year
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>>110280009
PC market is now for upper middle class and up. Even shitboxes are expensive.
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The price of a 5800X3D at $400 doesn't feel right. What are some things I can buy with that money instead as an AM4 owner?
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>>110281316
Microcenter still does Intel bundles you can get a CPU+mobo+ram for that same $400. Best Buy and Brandsmart also price matches with Microcenter.
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>>110280296

As if our consumer money means shit for any of these companies.
Gaming at the moment is probably under 5% of Nvidia's market share, our money means fuckall to them.
Boycotting things will only turn you into a waitfag who has to pay more in the future.
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>>110281316
On Ali they're like 100. CPU prices are going down
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>>110281430
bullshit
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>>110281430
You used to be able to get 7800x3ds from ali for $250-300. Now 5800x3ds are like $350
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>>110281244
No it isn't, that's a fucking Quadro RTX 6000.
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>>110280843
AI doesn't make money.
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>>110281437
>>110281442
Just a week ago 7800x3D were under euros on ali, some anon from UK got one for 180£. I bought a 9800x3d for 80 euros more. When zen 6 releases next year these will be even cheaper since nobody will be able to afford gpu or ram.
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>>110281430
I thought CPU prices are going up?
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>>110281212
even if you had the blueprint required, you won't be able to make a clone 5090 without tsmc's agreement and $50 mil+ to get it ready for mass production
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>>110281465
No they're not, data centers don't need CPU as much as they need storage and GPUs
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Got the cash ready to spend on that fat GPU but i'm still waiting for the black friday sales because I am just a fucking retard man goddamn and might save like 50 bucks.
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>>110281540
you're buying an rtx 6000 blackwell?
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>>110281540
did that last year and just before blackfriday ram prices exploded and nothing was discounted.
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>>110280879
Well fuck me i also found Corsair Frame 4000D RS White (CC-9011313-WW) for like 77euros so yeah which one to get ? (its already on sale but not black friday sale) Or to wait for Black Friday ?
While CC-H52FW-R1 is already on black friday sale for 67euros

So yeah im now torn between these two.
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>decided to compare MSRP prices with current prices of the 9070XT
I knew it was bad, but these prices are outright criminal. I hope we get an slight price cut during Black Friday, because holy shit
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>>110279164
Holy shit he just got arrested:
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1794231612883044.mp4
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>>110281645
massive if big
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Go figure as soon as gaming on pc got good the entire market died
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>>110281645
The /pol/ shit ruined the joke
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spyussy that good, it's worth the crash
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>>110281474
Intel already announced price hikes for CPUs?
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>>110281347
I'm a eurofag so the best I can do is CPU + Mobo for that same $400. I already have a good monitor.
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>>110277903
>The studio I just purchased 20 minutes away from a ski resort, in a building with its own onsen, heated swimming pool, and a gym
How do I do this? I want to ski in Japan and I always see videos about how cheap it is in Hokkaido.
>>110276949
I bought it last month for 290, it was cheaper than the 265k at 320. People will say wait but I was coming from an i7 from 2018 in a laptop with a 1060 3gb to a 5070ti desktop. It's like I went from the stone age to nuclear. My setup will last me a good 5-10 years which is how long I intend for my gear to last
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>>110281442
Why is AMD so greedy?
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>>110278533
I wasn't even paying attention to pc building, i just got the itch early october when i was in microcenter with my gf and she wanted a laptop with a 5070ti cuz it had a touchscreen and i said fuck that shit and built a desktop with one instead. I later found out how much a scam mobile GPUs are. My build went up hundreds between me buying it and actually putting it together
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>>110278033
Based
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>>110279474
For what purpose?

China knows in a few years they'll be like Japan times 50. So they, more than anyone else, are betting big on AI and robotics to:

1. Avoid having to rely on mass immigration, cause only the truly desperate would want to live long-term in China and in a choice between China and America- they'll pick America first.

2. Avoid having to rely on mass immigration cause, do you know what Chinese REALLY think of Africans?
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>>110278533
Damn actually I should sell my frieren and get a new 5080, that'd be hilarious because I didn't wanna pay extra for the 5080 when buying the 5070ti at 1180 vs ~1700 a month ago. Now I could potentially do a free upgrade
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>>110280873
This, back in 2019 I coveted the Radeon VII and workstation cards.
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>>110281890
>>110281803
Who the fuck is spending this much money on a tranime GPU?
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>>110281908
me if i had a million dollars
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>7800X3D OEM is the same price as a 14600K
Is this because Intel chips cost more to produce?
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What even is the point of 6000 series when it will be MSRP $3k for 6050 and $9k for 6090...which of course will double to AI scalpers.
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>>110281908
lol don't look up the price of the miku 5080
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>>110281890
Make sure you're looking at the sold items
>>110281699
hes looking at her feet

3090s were 1200 about a month or two ago, they're 1800 now
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>>110281614
I also seen that motherboards are on sale should i replace my MSI B450M-A Pro Max 2 with Asus Rog Strix B550-F Gaming WiFi II ?
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Is 9070 the only worthwhile purchase right now? I am looking at Nvidia's prices and it is just stupid.
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Im at such a weird spot with my 2080, its just barely not good enough to be completely comfy with, but serviceable enought to run most things I wanna play, and to get a sizeable upgrade that feels worth it Ive gotta spend a good bunch
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>>110282046
Yeah because you missed out on $270 24GB
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Black friday worth waiting on bros??
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OLED TVsisters...
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>>110281953
no, it's because people have no choice but to buy something that supports DDR4
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>>110282099
>buys biodegradable monitor
>wtf how could it rot
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>>110282070
yep that $600 ram will only cost $500
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The AM5 platform was and is still too expensive to justify even without the memory pricing. Motherboard costs were already out of control.
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>>110282099
another QD-OLED victory
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>>110281770
Do you think i should wait for the nova lake equivalent or just buy a 270k plus now?
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>>110282166
am5 is officially discontinued in 2029 btw.
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>>110281968
There's no point to it if you had taken the last chopper out of 'nam by buying an ada or Blackwell gpu
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fuck this im getting a ps5
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>>110282099
But are they dying from heat or voltage?
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Black friday is a scam, buy 2nd hand
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>>110282099
this is ancient news
qdoled wins again btw

>>110282211
delamination around edges air getting in and killing pixels or something like that
as to why it happens around edges
production problem
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>>110282190
That's 3 years from now
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>>110282190
you're just telling us to buy AM5 because we'll likely get zen7
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>>110282254
and that's before any considerations about just maintaining AM5 for the next decade, because gamers are desperate for anything and they'll buy stuff produced on older nodes quite happily.
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do zen 4 and zen 5 cpus perform worse on windows 10?
i remember reading about win11-specific fixes for ryzen a few years ago.
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>>110276917
>https://www.techpowerup.com/354605/amd-confirms-excessive-ssd-writes-in-radeon-drivers-fix-coming-with-adrenalin-26-11-1
>Adrenaline 26.10.1 and 26.10.2 writing anywhere from 26GB to 432GB of data per day to your C drive
Update your drivers asap once the fix is released or your SSD write cycles will be exhausted
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>lock PC while letting my buddies play on the Minecraft server I'm hosting
>occasional CPU spikes due to shitty mods
>come back
>PC frozen
>force reboot
>refuses to POST
>move CPU to another PC as sanity check
>refuses to boot as well
What the fuck? How does a Minecraft server fry a CPU? ASRock Taichi board with i7-9700
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>buying used pc parts to build computers i don't need and won't sell
wtf am i doing it stupid and i'm still doing it
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>>110282367
pc building is fun. Are you doing at least fancy builds?
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What the FUCK are even supposed to do? Just buy used or overpay for midrange? I am so fucking tired, AI abd Claude are not worth this.
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>>110282393
Nothing, this pretty much means requirements for games will stagnate for a few years until progress can be reinstated in the low end.
You're only fucked if you have nothing to tide you over.
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>>110280744
If he says no he's a bad parent and should be arrested.
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MLID thinks the bubble is going to be popping this month and that you should sell your 5090s lmao
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>>110282591
he should lead by example through selling his 4090 first
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amdeds our response?
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpu-drivers/amd-adrenalin-bug-could-be-writing-data-continuously-wearing-out-ssds-radeon-owner-claims-external-events-utility-used-up-1-percent-of-ssd-health-every-month-for-over-a-year
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>>110282591
The bubble wont pop, because it would be collapse of tech sector. They will get bailouts anyway.
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>>110282653
>buy cheap, buy twice
jensen was right again, the more you buy the more you save
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Im just going to sell my pc. No use staying on a platform that has no future.
Got my laptop for productivity, my ps5 for AAA sloppa, switch 2 for tendie games, and steam deck to fill in the gaps with emulation. That's all you need.
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>https://www.pcgameshardware.de/Core-i9-14900KS-CPU-280292/Specials/AMD-Ryzen-X3D-Tuning-Benchmark-Vergleich-1558125/
the schizos were right, tuned raptorlake btfos zen5 x3d ._.
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>>110282653
So are they going to compensate people for the damage they've done to people's hardware or like...?
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>>110282803
>prove that we damaged your hardware (you can't)
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>>110282653
crystal disk says my nvme is still 100%. boughted it half a year ago.
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They push out updates to damage your hardware so they can herd the sheep to cloud computing
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>>110282328
>>110282653
inb4
>werks on my machine
>>110282816
what's your total TB written and SSD total capacity?
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>>110282803
Sure, after that they're going to pay you a nice pension of $5,000 per month until the day you die including a blowjob every week from a tech CEO of your choice.
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>>110282180
What do you currently have?
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>>110282043
Nvm i will not replace it apparently its not worth it.
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>>110282837
2tb nvme, total write volume 9857 GB
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Assuming I want Nvidia what is my best bet for GPU in terms of price to performance? Should I just go with 9070 xt anyway?
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>>110282180
it's always risky waiting for a new intel generation
13th/14th gen raptorlake had the degradation issue and arrowlake was initially hyped up to be a zen4 killer but it regressed in performance from 14th gen
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>>110282926
Used 3080Ti.
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>>110282926
But why do you want Nvidia? Their drivers are broken doesn't matter what version number you use.
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>>110282926
Lol
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>>110282993
> Their drivers are broken
Not on my machines.
Must be a skill issue.
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>>110282926
Get !!!NEW!!! 9070 (not xt) and do not think about anything else.
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>>110283005
Shut the fuck up jit. They are broken as fuck on Windows and Linux. The proof is everywhere online. Do some basic research instead of sucking your own cock.
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>>110282993
Uh, that's amd >>110282653
>>110282926
The ship has long sailed. 5070tis used to be alright when they were $800-900 but they start from $1400 these days
Either cough up the cash for one or just go 9070xf like most people with a budget do
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>>110283005
Yah right Nvidia is shit bro. Software is buggy and hardware is broken catches on fire.
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>>110283014
Uh, that's Nvidia. Use computers today in 2026 instead of regurgitating AI bullshit
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>>110283014
Uh Nvidia sucks stupid nigger. Hardware is slower than AMD today and software drivers are garbage on Windows 10/11/Linux.
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>>110283013
>The proof is everywhere
Lol lmao even
Nvidia has 90% install base and 10x more bug reports than amd
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>>110283023
So Nvidia has 90% of the driver problems there's over 1000+ replies of broken shit just on their latest mega thread for drivers
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>>110283023
Shut the fuck up cocksucker. Nvidia are broken as fuck on Windows and Linux. The proof is everywhere 90% FUCKING majority have issues with it.Do some basic research instead of sucking your own cock stupid fucking bitch.
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>>110282926
Nvidia drivers are a joke now so avoid them.
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>>110283028
Exactly, that's because everyone uses Nvidia and nobody uses amd and the few schizos that do just lives with the amd driver bugs without reporting them
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>>110281645
> https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1794231612883044.mp4
Pathetic "AI", not even nearly his voice. Probably "Made in China".
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Nvidia drivers still busted
Nvidia hardware still dying
Companies refusing to RMA Nvidia cards instead give you crappy original refund that can't cover the cost today
Jensen getting fired
Steve is having is field day
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>>110281465
Demand for CPUs collapsed because fewer systems get assembled and sold due to high RAM and storage prices.
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>>110283074
DC servers built for AI already started taking away consumer xou wafers a quarter ago
CPUs are gonna skyrocket in price like the other components in the near future
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>Post article that exposes AMD drivers as damaging people's SSD
>Jeet defence force springs into action
Lmao
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>Dell
>i7-9700
>16GB ddr4 2666
>256GB nvme
>460w psu
>$200
How did I did? All that's missing is a GPU. The only downside is that the system is pcie 3, so I'm limited by my options. MB also only has one x16 slot and dual channel RAM, so I can't use it as a sensible budget local AI rig.
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>>110283129
Apparently it only affects a minor amount of people not everyone? If anything this sound like a Windows specific issue. As in people on newer or older versions don't have this bullshit.
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>>110283129
>>110283200
Meanwhile Nvidia drivers are broken regardless. Anyone who posts works on my is a cocksucker.
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>>110283198
>dell
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Anyone ever have bad luck with referbs? I found 4070 ti super for 1200
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>>110282798
tuned zen 5 X3D will catch up
but yes, the only people who think this is a schizo opinion do not understand where the bottlenecks in modern CPUs lie
or how terrible stock RAM timings are
it's one thing to argue about the topic online and another to actually test it for yourself on your own machine
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>>110282343
probably a shitty asrock bios that killed it, i've heard stories of them frying 9800X3D's as well due to improper voltage settings from the factory.
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>>110283228
I could've gotten a newer platform with more robust hardware similarly cheap if I had decided to buy someone's old gayming PC, but the majority of local listings are overpriced for dust/cum covered pre 8th gen systems.

At least with this configuration, everything works, and I know it hasn't been jizzed on. Besides, the impression I get from local marketplace listings is that everyone's trying to scam one another.
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>>110283237
I wouldn't pay $400 for a 4070ti. Those were the turd stinkers that had to be replaced with the supers because they were so cucker
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>>110283277
Ti super is a different card bri
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>>110283271
ASRock bios updates are placebo
Their hardware is inherently flawed and kills CPUs
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>>110283273
The 460w psu will limit your choice of GPU and Dell motherboards tend to have underbuilt vrms which will cause CPU throttling if you were to unlock the power limits and run the 9700 at 4.5ghz flat under all core loads
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>oh shit new egg daily sale
>9070 for 500
>Sold out instantly
Yeah that sounds right. Fuck me for not camping it
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>>110283237
never buy used GPU's from rando's since you'll probably get scammed, if it's a high-end GPU it will 100% be a card with no GPU core and memory chips on it. that's a very popular scam atm. i would avoid it because you don't know what refurb means. maybe it was a perfectly functioning card and they swapped the paste/pads, but more likely it was a dead card that was revived by cooking it (reflow), which is a repair that always fails again within six months (reball is proper repair, but its too expensive for anything but the 4090/5080/5090 etc). or they replaced a faulty memory chip(s) but again they likely exposed the board to a lot of heat. one way to tell if a card got cooked is to look at the color of the edge of the PCB and/or the sticker the factory puts above the PCI-e slot. if either of them have a brown/dark tint to them that means the card got cooked and you should avoid it like the plague. if it's pure white / beige clean looking then it's a good sign, but still not a guarantee that retard took a soldering iron to the board.

used GPU's are very risky in this market, i wouldn't do it unless it's like a local sale where you can physically inspect the card and test it before buying. like i don't want to doom too hard but it really is scam central out there. if you are gonna bite, make sure you have a guaranteed way to get your money back in case of a scam or a card that was fried as a temporary fix.
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I booted
Got into the BMC through network
Updated the bios and firmware
CPU detected
Changed the bios setting so it now detects my drives

And it only detected 2/8 RAM sticks... It's an AMD system
It must've gotten screwed on too tight from the CPU cooler
that thing took like 2hrs to screw on holy shit

Cortisol levels - very high

Can I retest without the CPU cooler attached or am I gonna fry it?
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>>110283373
Do not boot the system if the heatsink is not attached it will die instantly
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>>110283360
>>110282653
Dodged a bullet.
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>>110283363
Thanks for the info about referbs. I figured that was more or less the exact case but I don't have any experience buying refurbished cards.
I would never consider buying a used loose card. That just sounds like begging it get scammed
Guess I'll poke around and see if I can get lucky for black Friday or give up and replace my POS 6600 with a 9070
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>>110283405
Doesn't happen on my machine
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>>110283373
no point in testing without a cooler because it will overheat within seconds. it's not gonna die because of internal thermal protections but it'll throttle massively and when that inevitably fails to reduce temps it will shut the pc down. if you have only partial memory detection you need to start swapping sticks and start with the most basic two stick setups to see which sticks work and which don't. if all of them work as part of a dual channel setup then at least you know the memory sticks aren't faulty.
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>>110277495
>blackwell 6000
the only offers i saw where 17k i dont have that much money
The most i can spend is like 600 Euros or so for the gpu
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>>110283410
markets just terrible right now. can't even get your card fixed by a proper tech because all the good ones who know what they're doing are overworked fixing AI cards, which cost ten times as much so they make more money per repair. as a result they have no time left to work on normie cards. my favorite repair guy already stopped servicing anything below the RTX 5080. he also told me that he gets countless people asking him to fix their used 5090's, but when he tells them to look at the side to see if there's actually chips on the board they go like "oh shit i got scammed". chinks are even creating fake chips to put on the board to get around this kind of inspection.

it's over.
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>>110283537
Nah I can afford it I just like to feel like I'm not getting raped. Alas leather jacket man and his cousin are too powerful
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>>110282225
If I waited for black friday instead of starting october my build would by 5k instead of 3.5k
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>>110283237
>Buy referb with 2 year protection plan
>Still $200 cheaper
>???
>Profit



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