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>>110264485The thing I didnt try because I dont have the hardware is if there is a difference with top tier SSDs paired with top tier CPUs. A faster CPU than my 5800X3D could compress at roughly double the speed and a faster nvme ssd could read up to 14GB/s compared to my older nvme ssd who is limited to 2GB/s. DDR4 RAM is 24GB/s. Maybe if you have swap on NVME SSDs of the latest generation in raid 0 you could compensate for the missing ram?
Do 3090 cables melt too? Is Cablemod worth it?
>>110264663If it doesnt have the modern connector then it wont melt under normal circuumstances. Classic 8 pin connectors should be fine.
Is upgrading from a 27 inch 1440p to a 27 inch 2160p worth it or is it a complete waste?my gpu is a 5080I know that the ppi difference of 108 and 163 sounds nice, but I have no idea how much of it is actually visible to the eye.
>>110264500wtf :(
>>11026489927" 1440p oled looks horrific bad up close32" 4k oled light years better105ppi~ is not good looking to begin with very pixlyso how much? alot better but would pick 32" 4k because 27" gets even harder to use native res I wouldnt wanna do it32" is bad enough as it is
>>110264500welp she's doomed doesn't seem to be too upset by it tho
Can someone pull up a price trend for 256 and 512gb Sata SSDs?
>>110265016https://pcpartpicker.com/trends/price/internal-hard-drive/#storage.ssd250.256
Just seen prices of mid range prebuilts. PC gaming is dead if nothing changes.
>>110265034So about double YoY, Looks like a bottom tier 512GB SSD to replace your mom's laptop HDD remains affordable
>>110265062Its not just mid range PC anon. PS5/PS6 and Xbox definitely fucked as well
>more cuck fetish shit in the OPnvidia users are the worst
>>110265146Sorry, AMD is a data center company now.
110265224>excuses cuck fetish shit in the OP somehowi repeat nvidia users are the worst
lmao
>>110265385if pc parts weren't that expensive atm, the internet would have broken down by now, from all the jeets uploading their sloppa and larping as blonde females. Maybe increasing the prices and limiting gpu access was the only way to prevent a jeetpocalypse of the interwebs.
>>110265385That's a based indian if I ever saw one>>110265496Only new hardware is expensive. Old hardware from 10 years ago are still dirt cheap and more than enough for 3rd worlders to access the net
>>110265385>Read the left part>See the right part.>Now can't help but read the left part with an accent and the occasional Saar.
>>110265385without video games would there have been enough demand for GPUs to really push the technology to the point where it is today? 3d rendering maybe?
>>110265638yeah, the engineering industry needs gpus for cads and sims
>>110265385this kid makes it sounds like graphics accelerators didn't exist before 1999, or that they were only ever used for games.he points out nvidia coined the term gpu, which i believe is true, but he wrongly assumed that means they didn't exist before. only the term was new. people had been playing 3D games using chips to handle the 3D math for many years before 1999 (from arcade machines to consoles to pc cards).also, he just completely fails to mention 3D hardware not intended for games in the first place, SGI says hi.
hello everyonefor some reason, an itch to buy stuff has stricken me. I am considering upgrading from a i5-13600k to a i7-14700k. same socket and good psu so no additional parts are required. other specs include a 4080, 32gb, plenty of (quick) storage.would this be a mistake/waste of money? i don't do any video rendering, but i do multitask a lot. any opinions would be appreciated
>>110265668no pointsave money to buy next gen qd oled monitor instead
>>110264500Kill yourself OP
Will this still work?
>>110265385>Saaaar>I must be able to buy the latest and greatest hardware saaar>Or the western tech company has fallenI'm sorry, but if you live in a shithole, you shouldn't expect to be able to afford the luxury of the west.Maybe encourage your shithole country to make their own GPUs for local prices.
>>110265730>No chipThey're removed the memory modules and GPU core, it's just a blank (And slightly damage) PCB.
>>110265730possibly. i can see the last lane's pair are broken but it could still negotiate an 8x connection. not sure how it'll go with 15 lanes connected though you could perhaps use some thin tape to mask off the 9-16 lane section of the connector to force 8x usage, or use a pci-e slot that is physically only wired for 8x if your motherboard has one.you could also try repairing that connection, though that won't be very easy given the miniscule size of those traces
Ive got an I7 9700k and a 2080. Been considering to upgrade but cant afford to upgrade everything at once, so I need to first upgrade my mobo/cpu/ram or my gpu. I was thinking of getting a 7800x3d cpu and a rt9060, but am not sure on the order, and been getting some conflicting answers, what would be the more noticeable upgrade for 1440p?
>>110265730Retard
>>1102657669060 is a side grade to 2080X3D CPU is much better than 9700k
>>110264500im the only one here waiting for ddr6 ramfuck ddr5
>>110265668Just buy a 14900ks before they're all gone
>>1102657665070 would be a worthwile upgradeddr5 ram is so expensive I'd buy gpu first and then go mobo/zen6 cpu/ddr5
>>110265784>$700 for a 14900KYSthere are no boards that can let me follow buildzoids guide to tame that thing
>>110265730As a doorstop, yes.
tfw my pymcore is C tier hell nah nigger
>>110265675thanks for the tip! by next gen, do you mean like a Gigabyte MO32U24? or is there another next gen coming in 2027?
>>110265766>7800x3d cpu and a rt9060get a 14th gen intel chip with a ddr4 mobo and get a 9070 or 5070
>>110265804something like 360hz qd oled 4k with rgb strip layout
>>110264663No
>>110265795Bz just got one and he easily tamed it by limiting VR voltage to 1.45v and using Intel's extreme performance preset
Just me or is 13 lb-in unusually high?I got a used ROME CPU and spec says use the driver it came with, but I don't have that.Reading online people seem to say to use 13 lb-in. I tried that on a case screw and man that's a lot of torque.I tightened the CPU finger tight for now, should I just torque it down?
>>110265385NVIDIA wanted to seriously grow their enterprise and server business since the late 2000s.It just took them a while to have a product that eclipsed gaming GPU demand.This is why Jensen says their AI GPUs are a result of over twenty years of tapping into a market with no demand.NVIDIA were never intent on prioritizing gaming GPU business forever, they felt Intel could match their GPUs if Intel cared.But Intel didn't want to invest further into GPU development after the Larrabee shitshow, because the ROI was too low at that time.
>>110265899But that's what it says on the original screwdriver. Those CPUs need a lot of pressure otherwise you will get into problems.
>>110265949fuck man that's scary I really can't mess this mobo upworst is I won't know if I did it right until I update the mobo/bcm tooI also heard it's fully torque 1>2>3 and not the standard practice of inching to the spec while changing screws
>>110265784>>110265795>>110265876you crazy bastards have got me to buy it. i'll limit the draw to 250 and be fine. (surely.. i'll post an update if my house blows up.)it was only 480 euros :)
>>110266011Just stick to 1.45v VR limit, 400A ICC limit and 253W pl1/pl2 and it should last for a long timeJust note that it will max out at 5.9ghz in this case since the voltage needed for 6.2ghz is typically >1.50v
>>110265968If you don't tighten it up enough it won't even post or you will miss memory channels.Tightening it by hand might be hard. Basic torque screwdrivers aren't that expensive, I'm not even talking about the one that came with the CPU.There are official videos on how to install that CPU, don't sweat it Anon.
>>110266011There's no point in buying a 14900KS unless you have a Samsung b-die DDR4 or a decent Hynix DDR5 kit + good Z- motherboard.Buildzoid's got the best OCing board + a variety of DDR5 Hynix chip samples sent by RAM manufacturers.Get a 14700K if you don't have those high performance parts, the 4 extra Ecores on the i9 just makes it harder to cool with little practical return.
>>110266011Just watch buildzoids latest video on it, make sure to limit the voltage linit as low as you feel like and start incrementing it from there, but no more than 1.44 I'd say. Check the VID table in BIOS.
So apparently polish retailers are very picky about buying and returning CPUs, not only do they not let you order them and pay with cash at checkout (you have to prepay the order), but returning them cannot be done at the retailer of your choice. You need to pack it up and deliver it by mail to their central warehouse at your own cost.
>>110266396Who does that?x-cum? morele?First time I've heard about this.
>>110266396should have bought from bazos
>>110266396Sounds like they aren't "major" certified retailers, just small time dropshoppers. An authorized retailer for example in the US is Best Buy but not the small ex RadioShack by the mall.
>>110264500Can't wait for AMD to put the RX 9000 series on maintenance after Lisu Su's chud out.
>>110266404Media Expert, ordering a Ryzen chip boxed online gave me no option to pay at checkout. I now have to print out, pack up, and send this box by mail to their Warehouse in Lódź. It surprised me because I don't remember this being the case at X-Kom. The reason for this arrangement I'm told is that CPUs are too expensive and valuable and can't be validated in stores, so the warehouse needs to do it.
https://www.noctua.at/en/news/carbice-and-noctua-announce-strategic-partnership-for-pc-cooling-applications
>>110266462Ok but why can't you pay on delivery at the store?That part doesn't make sense to me.I can understand the return part, which for scamazon is free btw.So they are just saying their staff is too incompetent to read serial number out of the CPU?I wonder if UOKiK won't be happy to take care of this. I'm not a lawyer but those large retailers were already forced to change their policies in the past.
>>110266479I'm all for one-and-done TIMs.
>nhd-15 with offset kit is still about as good as the phantom spirit on a 9800x3d
>>110266509They aren't a real store. They're a glorified dropshipping warehouse. Think Antonline.
>>110266509>Ok but why can't you pay on delivery at the store?The cashier referred me to the information line. They cannot accept returns in store or that box even if it is untouched or unopened as a matter of policy, as they can't verify if the CPU is intact or not on site. I have only the option to return it at my own cost.
>>110266571>dropshippingwhat is this
>>110266586I was talking about this part. >not only do they not let you order them and pay with cash at checkout
>>110266586That's what you hardware binning faggots deserve.
>>110266606not him but dropshipping is when a store/vendor doesn't actually own any stock of the thing you're purchasing, and instead purchases the product from someone else when you make an order, and has that third party ship it to you
>>110266629is that what is going on?
>>110266606Sopranos TV show tier no show job.
>>110266642This specific guy probably isn't binning CPUs, but processor binners are abusing retailers' return policies.It's only right they implement a restocking & return shipment fee.Just another example of a few shitheads ruining things for everyone else.
>>110266606They import shit from China for much cheaper cost and sell it to you in America or Europe for much higher cost. They have no real storefront or customer service it's all just a warehouse and guys collecting tax fraud.
>>110266629Hardware binning?
>>110266788>buy cpu>check how much it overclocks/ boosts>check what others get>if you get less you return it and try again>if you get a good one you sell it to some retardit started with the 3000 amd generation
>>110266613You had to pay with card online to deliver to a destination of your choosing. But the order has to be paid in this case.
>>110266801Interesting, I didn't even open this one but if I was a retailer it'd be weary of people doing this and fucking up the CPU somehow if they also try tuning it.
>>110266811some also replace the cpu with an am3 one or with a fake made in china and keep the working one they are difficult to spot and test for sellers because they don't know nor can they really test themamd and others would be able to tell but you may have to delid it in some cases too to check i guess you could also buy a broken one and swap the heat spreader and keep the working one
>>110266788Surgical implants?
>>110266801>started with the 3000 and generationDid you get into computers in 2019 or what lol
2.5 months of gas costs as much as a 5800X3D.
>>110266931gas will go below $2 a barrel eventually, trust the plan.
So the new OoT remu runs horribly on my machine. I've been looking for an excuse to get new hardware for a while, so this is as good a moment as any.How do I determine whether lichii's missing CPU/RAM or GPU? I'm on Debian if that's of any note.
>>110266987Ask moot on irc if he could make a nintendo only board for you
>>110266998you think he still lurks on there?!
>>110265016
>>110266914no. it just got big because ryzen 3000 was big and everyone wanted the highest boost clocks on that platform esp after dercuck made his video on not all ryzen cpus reaching their target boost frequency. that is when people started getting a lot of already opened cpus back from amazon etc.
>>110266987emulation is all about your CPU for speed and GPU for graphics bugs
is streaming games fun
>>110267115so it's the CPU, fug.there go 100s of € for new CPU+MoBo+RAM
>>110266801>started with the 3000 amd generationsiliconlottery.com came and went before the 3000 series even existed and made a literal business out of hunting for good CPU bins and reselling them. the entire thing was a much bigger deal before that era because companies didn't used to do such a meticulous job binning and boost algorithms weren't as good
has anyone ever had a contact frame make their cpu unstable? i got one a few weeks ago and initially it worked and helped with temps but about a week after it started freezing when going from full load to idle and getting progressively worse, i was ready to return the cpu but i tried the stock mounting frame again and its back to being stable
>>110267170only after 3000 series did they start cracking down on cpu returns before that it was rare to get an already unboxed cpu from amazonit wasn't all that big before and nobody cared about a few people swapping and returning cpus
>>110267184it can do that if your cpu was previously mounted with the stock ILM for a long period of time and became permanently warped
>>110267236the cpu is new but the motherboard is used, maybe its down to that
>It's not the case where people are upgrading their computers for fun anymore it's more people are only upgrading because something broke and they need a computerGN Steve always finds the words that speak to the grim state
I really feel Iike I should build a cheap spare ddr4 pc because it's too late
>>110267054>1tb drives triple instead of quadruple Grim
>>110264500>AI slop>It's blacked shit what is it about AI that attracts these people?
>>110267407they can't get their fix trough regular "normal" stuff
>>110267407BBC!!!
>>110266947He's talking about natural gas, not petroleum.
>>110267407mutt hours
>>110267478nah it's a seamonkey
>>110266931I keep wanting to make some form of Polish joke, but truth be told, your major metros are far nicer than my country's... £270 is not... awful... for a 5800X3D but I've not seen the prices.
>>110267184You need to be gentle with the torque when you're installing these contact frames.If you overtighten the frame, you fuck up the contact and cause memory instabilities.Some higher end Z790 boards have modified ILMs that don't cause IHS bowing, it's worse to replace these with contact frames.
>>110264500I built my pc like 2 months ago with a rtx 3070 and 5600x. what's the best gpu I can use without bottleneck at 1080p? Would a 16gb rtx 5060 be fine?
>>110267620https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u1u6nf8-lk
>>110267407SAAAAAR
>>1102676209070 because it puts less stress on your cpu
i've never understood the contact frame meme
>>110267805>amd
>>110268093uneven pressure from one side causes the long cpu to tilt in the socket.
be exact where exactness is cheap, go native where it pays
>>110268099Nvidia driver overhead is why 5090 is slower than 9070 in cs2 today.
>>110268099>not an argument
>>110268093>>110268137nobody would have noticed if those cpus didn't run at 250W or more
AMDs hardware scheduler > Nvidias software scheduler
M2 heatsinks worth it? I have a pair of bare 990 pros and wondering if I should spend the $40 to sink them>>110265875To both?
>>110268283Yes but overpay for heatsinks all you need a piece of copper
>>110268299don't overpay*
>>110268143>>110268149AMD is a datacenter now, not a consumer GPU company. Buying discontinued "Gaming" GPUs would be retarded.
Is the 7800x3d worth it compared to the 7500x3d if its 100 bucks more expensive? I only do gayman and I dont care about shit like video editing
>>110268398def go for a 9800x3d or wait for zen6the thermal insulator isnt worth it
>>110268352>>110265146
Should I buy a founders edition for 2500 and resell it in a few months? Already have a 5070ti, just figured I might make some cash off this retardation
>>110268299Well I have a few hundred lbs of scrap copper.. Just need a forge
>>110265224Kek
>>110268401and how do I cool it?
>>110268398Have You missed out on 7800X3D from chinks? Those were ~200€ just a week ago.
>>110268672I got a 9800x3D at like 260 euros. 7800x3D was 180 euros. Haven't installed it yet though.
Do high-end AM5 CPUs benefit from a contact frame/offset brackets for air coolers?I remember that pic related made a huge difference for my 12700k. Do AM5 CPUs need anything similar?
>>110268691No, AM5 CPUs don't bow as much as LGA1700.It's a meme.
>>110268691no but it looks cool.
Any rec's for 90* 12hvpwr 600w
>>110268761Get the Corsair ThermalProtect cable and you'll be fine.If you own be Quiet or Seasonic PSUs, using their first party cable is good as well.
>>110265899>13 lb-in.Are you sure you aren't trying FOOT lbs?
>>110268787I'm using Lian Li cables, I think they're fine but the aesthetic would be better >>110185903
>>110268806Corsair has a white version of that ThermalProtect cable.https://youtu.be/DQSeiZ8S9hw?t=238They don't cost too much in the US vs. some CableMod 12V-2x6 options.
>re using my motherboard>install ssd>see that i forgot to remove the plastic from the ssd heatsinkran without issues for years, didn't even get hotssd heatsinks really are a meme aren't they?
>>110268691AM5 offset bracket can reduce temperature by 2~3°C.Contact frame isn't needed.
>>110268882You didn't use Gen5 SSD, slower drives don't generate nearly as much heat.
>>110268716>but it looks cool.true and it seems to make it easier to reapply thremal paste>>110268901>AM5 offset bracket can reduce temperature by 2~3°CNoctua are the only company I trust to make dogshit products and the offset is only 5€, thanks for the info
>>110268970>Noctua are the only company I trust to make dogshit productsthey need to cope with the fact that a 35 dollar cooler matches and sometimes even outperforms their high end top of the line cooler.
>>110269002>35 dollar cooler matches and sometimes even outperforms their high end top of the line cooler.true but I mistyped. Meant to say that I trust them to not make dogshit products. even though they are always overpriced.
>>110269014they also made a lbc version of the d15 extra for those x3d chips
should I get an IPS HDR display? I know I won't benefit from the contrast and brightness but do I at least benefit from the 10bit color?
is 21:9 oled a meme?had this brick for 6 years
What's the best way to go about choosing a motherboard for a 9800x3D? Pcpartpicker?there's so many choices and can't justify spending 500€ on a motherboard when a 200€ one can work just as well
>>110269135>800 series>atx>wifi>bluetooth>ram slots 4>usb 12>filter out assrock boards>look at the rest
>>110269135get a b850 that has what you need and check reviews to see if it doesn't have any issueshardware unboxed did a full video with most available models also don't get asrock
>>110268932the drive is pretty fast though
>>110269162>get a b850Why not a X870/X870E? Genuinely curious because I have had zero issues with my current Z690 + 12700K. is it the same for AMD where you need to go higher end if you want longevity?>>110269160solid advice, will have a look
What the fuck is this monstrosity?>350€ motherboard>ugly-ass 2€ wifi antennaevery single MSI board has this, what the fuck
>>110269209oh yeah and also it should have an ALC1220 because the other ones (ALC4080 and ALC4082) have issues (poping and hissing)? that would basically leave you with a bunch of gigabyte boards and three asus boards
what setup do I need if I want>NATIVE 4K>60Hz minimum but 120Hz preferred>medium-high settings
Was unable to post with the white VGA LED on indefinitely. Reseated the gpu and was able to install and boot into windows normally. Display flickered and now the white LED stays on and no display. Everything works fine when gpu is unplugged. Could this nick on the gpu’s pcie be the cause?
>>110269209my upgrade to x870e gave me a lot of troubles to be honest. somehow the gpu couldn't handle going to 0mhz and crashed the system. Took a while but AI fixed it with a script that keeps the gpu clock running at 800mhz
>>110269228>a bunch of gigabyte boards and three asus boardsWhere Asus has prenty of records of burning X3D CPUs too and Gigabyte, while having less (but still having them) previously had backdoors in its motherboards.
>>110269245>backdoors in its motherboardsin their software or what? i might have missed that.
>>110269245>Asus has prenty of records of burning X3D CPUs So no ASUS because they have notoriously dogshit warranty>Gigabyte, while having less (but still having them) previously had backdoors in its motherboards.doesn't surprise me one bitI remember back during the early AM4 days I had an asus board that installed chrome by itself and their fuckass software always made its way unto my system despite me deleting it multiple times.
>>110269265https://arstechnica.com/security/2023/06/millions-of-pc-motherboards-were-sold-with-a-firmware-backdoor/It seems it was unintentional, just incompetency. Left a way to update firmware without user consent but were unable to secure it properly.
>>110269234
>>110269314honestly i would have expected something like that from armoury crate or whatever it is called shit feels like a backdoor to your operating system (that is why i turn it off in the bios and only used it once before i reinstalled windows)
>>110269286>an asus board that installed chrome by itselfAsus boards push pop ups to install their Armory Crate bloatware right from their BIOS if you're on Windows. They don't install it forcefully as far as I know, just annoy you if you don't disable this in BIOS.
>>110269337>Asus boards push pop ups to install their Armory Crate bloatware right from their BIOS if you're on Windows.The gigabyte boards I had did this shady shit as well. Even pre-windows 11 they still had a way to phone home and directly deliver bloatware to your system.
>look up if my board has burned any cpus yet>see thiskek
Thoughts on ASUS Strix z890A?
bro i don't get itwe're all obviously god so like why does money exist lol
>>110269523It's just a means of exchange.
>>110269541yeah but im too lazy to work. should i get into crypto?
>>110269573You shouldn't define your life in terms of wealth.
>>1102693257900 xtx my beloved
>>110268761buyderize a blackwell 6000 and use the included adapter
>>110269409It's whatever.There are cheaper white boards, and there are better white boards.At nearly $300, you might as well go full retard and buy the Apex ($450).
Is there any point in tuning ram with an x3d chipI can't be bothered for all the testing honestly
>>110269891>I don't have autismSucks to suck.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTcz2Xxb-IQtl;dwOnly sometimes, depends on the software, not everything cares about tight timings. 5% better performance VS EXPO/XMP on average.
Drove 4 hours, and then 4 hours back, to get to a MicroCenter in my state to get my AMD bundle. God, that felt horrible to pay for. It has been years since I build a PC, been using laptops for the past 15 years I'm going to make this desktop outlast me>pic related
>>110269955>$599.99
>>110270004That was just the sticker on it (disgusting, I know) it is actually cheaper than that, still horrible
>>110270014that CPU discount is pretty big.
>9950x3d>32gb ddr5
>>110270040Yet, RAM is still more expensive than the CPU. Everything is fucked.
>>110270040This I just bought one and was worried 64gb cl30 wasnt enough for cooming
>>110270021>>110270040>>110270061Honestly, considering the (((best price))) I was getting out of pcpartpicker, this was a bargain overall. Luckily, I didn't have to pay too much for gas for the roundtrip (about $60) so net lower to pay for. Better now than never.
are ram prices suddenly going down? several people on my local fb marketplace have gotten my exact idea and are selling their ram for a little below the price they bought for. so for example i wanted to sell my 32gb ddr5 corsair two sticks for 485 when i bought it for 500. i wanted to upgrade to 64gb with 2 sticks of 32gb asap for my video editing. what do, sell now and wait a little and maybe price go down? or is zuck trying to cuck and fuck me?
>>110270140sureand the supers are coming out too
>>110269235I've seen RMAs denied for less
there's no games to play. macbooks won.
>>110270205https://www.youtube.com/shorts/TTbJPSZphz8
>>110270205>no games>actually all the gameshttps://youtu.be/DbIr5NOaFuQ
>>110270140cheap ddr5 just flew over my house
do i really need AV1 for my plex/jellyfin server? i see anons swear that its the future but i mostly see anime uploaded in AV1. what about movies and tv shows?
Found a pretty good deal on an 9700x and an 7800xt. What's the best way to cheap out on the motherboard, fans, everything but the ram basically?
>>110265385>indianno way lmao
>>110265745so they are moving them to the memory modded boards?
>>110270355AV1 has great compression ratio while also maintaining quality. However it's extremely CPU intensive and if you don't have an AV1 capable GPU, some devices may not even be able to run it properly and your server would end up having to transcode with a different codec anyways. As someone with a large physical media collection, it's all encoded in h.265 10-bit. My living room PC is an ancient Pentium Gold G5400 2c4t, 1x 8GB DDR4, and a passively cooled 2GB GDDR5 GT 1030. It can play back h.265 encoded 4k 10-bit HDR if I want it to. If I go with AV1, I'd not only need a newer system to be able to encode AV1 in the first place, I'd need newer hardware in the living room PC to play it back. As far as I know, the cheapest AV1 capable playback GPU is the Intel ARC A380.>>11027038510-bit color will only pop based on the content you're using. HDR also has a tendency to make things freak out a bit because every application uses/handles HDR differently. If you're on a garbage tier panel, any modern panel, HDR on or not, will be a solid change.
>>110270459thank you for the detailed response anon. i guess im sticking with 265
>>110270459>>110270355Not that anon, but if we to build a new media server using a mini ITX, what would be a good modern CPU to have AV1 enconding? Intel N300? AMD Ryzen 3/5?
>>110270437phantom spirit coolerarctic fansmatx basic bitch am5 mobosmall case seasonic core psusata ssd (bit cheaper than nvme)
>>110270467no problem. I recently re-ripped a bunch of my media from disc and encoded using an updated h.265 10-bit with Nvidia NVENC to replace all the old content that was basic h.264. On the same movies with the same quality, I managed to shrink my movie collection down from 8TB to 5.4TB. It also took 1/5th the time. I'm on an old RTX 3080 as well so it's not like I'm running the latest and greatest.>>110270468if you have an existing system, you can add the Intel ARC A380 GPU, It's sub $200 on newegg for the ASrock one. Full AV1 capabilities. For a new system, funnily enough you can use the Intel Ultra 5 250k Plus. It uses similar ARC based iGPU with full AV1 encoding (via Intel Quicksync) and full AV1 decoding for playback. It will do full fat AV1 4K 10-bit HDR.
>>110270505I thought so. I'm planning to build my own NAS after I'm done with the workstation, so I was looking up my options for low power consumption but a lot of utility.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VzynXfI am trying to put together this build running Linux. Am I missing anything important? Any recommendations?The use case is playing with AI and programming / light gaming / animation / 3d modeling.
>>110270866>after I'm done with the workstationYOUR WORK IS NEVER DONE
>>110271120>3990xthat belongs in a museum
>>110271158(my garage)
Is the upcoming black friday sale period going to be the worst in pc building history?
>>110271120you need a 9950x3d2 and a blackwell 6000
>>110264500>File deletedwhat was it ?
>>110271437anime girl with guys standing around in boxers and undershirts. a 5090 box.
What even is the usecase for RDNA4
people got priced out, only the chosen few have 5090s which are now unrealistic buys for the remaining few, if they died or fail and rma people won't buy them again either, and people consider selling themonce available performance is now degraded down to half of thatit's all overwe must wait until rtx6090 and ddr6 for e clean reset
>>110268143no ray tracing dlss 4.5/5 and no MFG and no low latency options for the same tech. whomp whomp amd
Gonna buy another EVGA 3090ti FTW3
>>110271833neat
DLSS 4.5 is like magic. Even performance mode looks basically as good as native.
>>110271833Where are you getting those? They're really rare
>>110272059Paying too much makes it ez
>>110272001Apple retard tier opinion
>Asus ROG Strix XG27ACSR>Alienware AW2725DDo I get an OLED or an IPS? I'm worried about the burn in and text fringing, I spend many hours a day reading and looking at static elements.
>>110272493apple fags at least used to value clarity.
>>110272683TAA is the opposite of clarity. It jitters every frame by design.
>>110272683I don't want my games to look like a YouTube video. That's what DLSS looks to me.
For those curious, it's currently 4PM in Mumbai, which is why there's people complaining about tech they can't afford.
>>110272666The text fringing is a genuine user skill issue.
>>110272666>I'm worried about the burn in and text fringingGet an IPS panel then. OLED burn in is an inevitability if you're not willing to compromise your usage scenario. Also, consider going 2160p if you have the budget, and 2880p if you have even more. 2160p panels should be within that price range.
>>110272792i drive a 4k monitor with an rtx pro 6000 (aka blackwell 6000) and dislike dlss THO
>>110272945DLSS was originally supposed to be cope for running Raytracing on RTX. Now retards are claiming its a image enhancement.
>>110272945Sounds cool, let's see it.
>>110272702Interpolated?I fucking hate 24/30fps. Minimum should always be 90
>>110272666I do the same thing and mine is fine. OLED burn in is exaggerated by a few early and expensive models suffering from it causing very high profile cases.As an example: I don't use any protections because I think it's a waste of time if my monitor might fail within 3-5 years for other reasons anyway, and mine has still been fine. You can also tell that they are fine because Dell ran 5 year warranties on models such as their 25 (2024-2025) series OLED monitors and they stopped offering them a while ago and went back to only 3 years recently. They no longer need to offer it to entice consumers scared of burn in because it literally just didn't happen with that generation of OLED technology, even with the most ignorant or relaxed consumer, the former who would publicly piss themselves if it was happening at all for any reason. The AW2725DF remains a flagship model even going into the upcoming 2027-2028 (27 series) periodI would be jealous of people just buying an OLED now from the 25 series itself, considering the overkill flagship is at least a third cheaper now than it was at the time, and there are also just better options that simply didn't exist until over a year, or over two years, later. AW2725D is a premium model, but made much cheaper than the flagship one from the previous year, and the AW2726DM is a more recent model (26 series) but is sold and built as a budget model (but should still be fairly good if you don't care about all the spec stuff)
>>110273143If you ever seen Geforce Now, thats what Nvidia wants but for real time rendering. The image is blocky, the colors are off, the input is laggy, its like watching a youtube video.
PC gaming is over. Better touch grass, nerds. hihi
>>110272692He's literally a jeet who doesn't have a GeForce GPU and can't tell the different between DLSS upscaling and DLSS framegen
>>110272963If you've played any modern game, you'd know that dlss is required for the best image quality since default TAA destroys motion clarity
>>110271399i wanna build a backup pc and this is the last chance for it i think 20927 will be a shitshow
Seeing Zelda OoT remake makes me want to upgrade my CPU from 5700x to 9950x3d..... but then again, my 64gb DDR4 will be a waste and DDR5 64gb price is retarded
>>110271437girls with 5090 and a few black guys that was saying that she would get raped by them if you didn't buy it.
>>110271437Monitoring Miku says she will get raped if you dont buy 5090 (she like the rape)
>>110272666>I spend many hours a day reading and looking at static elements.well that's the opposite use for an oled and text is the one thing it makes look the shittiest
will there ever be a good miniled monitor
https://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/research/edge-rot-plagues-woled-tvsLG and WOLED just keeps getting shittier and shittier
Is the only thing you faggots are capable of talking about nowadays is monitors? Might as well rename it to /MonitorGeneral/
>>110270385HDR on edge-lit IPS is garbage, don't even bother enabling it.IPS monitors are fine SDR displays with the right setup, consider buying a bias light for it.https://www.biaslighting.com/products/lx1-bias-lighting-cri-95-6500k-simulated-d65-white-bias-lights?variant=43529467920622
>>110273675The display is the device you stare at while using your PC. It matters, a lot.Monitor prices are expected to rise next year, it's better to upgrade now unless you're waiting for unreleased displays.
>>110273675lets talk about computershere is amd ceo lisa su saying less will be sold she certainly will not be launching new parts into this dying market that will make no money
>>110273729>12c/24t 11800x3d zen6 will have an msrp of $899it's so over...
Holy fuck I wish the GPU market wasn't obviously rigged. Yeah right amd you just stopped at 9070xt cuz....collusion.
why do people care if amd doesn't have a top tier option for a generation? not like anyone buys them.
>>110273970>Yeah right amd you just stopped at 9070xt cuzEconomics. AMD's also in this to run a profit-maximized business.The GB203 GPU in the 5080 is only around 6% larger than the fully-enabled Navi 48 chip in the 9070 XT.Comparing the launch price, the 5080 @ $999.99 MSRP costs over 53% more than the $649.99 9070 XT.AMD wanted to sell the 9070 XT at around $700 to $800, but they couldn't follow through that pricing.Even at the $800 desired 9070 XT launch price, the 5080 costs 25% more.The margin gets worse if AMD sold a gaming video card with a larger GPU, because of lower yields and higher development cost.
>>110273675It's the only thing left to buy among the big components, the monitor is also the most important component
>oled tvs have been known to have black crush on modes above 120hz, some even have even on 120hz>paying for 165hz lowering to 120hz to get max fidelity is the final cuck>soon monitors are hitting 360hz and if tvs are still down at a gimped 120hz to cope with processing it will be kinda brutal>240hz is very smooth and nice getting a gimped and gimped refresh is starting to becoming increasingly questionable for the tv pill>hard choice 165hz and brightness or 360hz 4k
>>110272792>>110272945I own a 5K monitor and drive it with a 5070 and thought DLSS produced an unreadable image when I tried it in Overwatch, on the other hand Half-Life 2 at native 2880p with 8x MSAA was pure bliss.
>These monitors use a 3-sub 4-stack OLED panel. Like any display technology, it comes with its own set of tradeoffs. Some variation in brightness uniformity is a known characteristic of this panel type and is not a defect. Dell Technologies chose it for its longer panel lifespan, superior color accuracy, stronger HDR performance, and improved texture quality.Not a defect? These things are totally unusable
>>110274105I thought that was an LCD monitor at first from the vignette on white>These monitors use a 3-sub 4-stack OLED panelTHEY EVOLVED BACK INTO LCD DESIGN TO TRY AND MAKE OLED BRIGHTERAHH
>>110274105>Edge corner dimmingCPC aka convex power control, woled cuckery>Color shiftWoled cuckery not as good viewing angles as qdoled>Green tintwoled cuckery>uneven color uniformitywoled cuckery>green tintwoled cuckery
The GB202 in the 5090 is also the core component in NVIDIA's best PCIe server & workstation cards.You see NVIDIA diverting these chips to server options as GDDR7 memory price continues to rise.NVIDIA can afford to design this large PCIe GPU because of those enterprise & research customers.AMD can't sell their enterprise GPUs at NVIDIA's margins or match NVIDIA's unit sales.
is a b650 motherboard enough for 9800x3d or should I upgrade it?
>>110274215what brand mobo is it
>>110274238gigabyte
>>110274245dont bother upgrading thenmake sure you install latest bios using an usb stick
just panic bought some ram
There probably 30 models 32inch 4k 240hz oled monitors and 5-6 ips ones that are also 32inch 4k ~165hz. How the fuck there is not a single modern 42 inch model? Not IPS, not OLED nothing. The only OLED models are 2022 and are some shitty gen1 LG panels that work on 120hz and are basically LG C3 tv made to look like a monitor. 32inch 4k you have to use 1.25 scaling to be usable and you lose the advantage of 4k workspace. The 42 inch 4k have the same dot size as 27 inch 1440p that is the most sold model and size resolution but somehow no one makes the logical 4k monitor. The closest thing is LG 52G930B but is fucking huge and I don't really need ultra wide.
>>11027495632" is already too big for 99% of people that 42" will only cater to the 0.01% of monitor buyers
>>110274956>32inch 4k you have to use 1.25 scaling to be usable and you lose the advantage of 4k workspace.ui in 100% is doable but I used zoom in web browser and the like, but I am already using 140ppibut it's not gonna be big for the ui in general but still doableanything else than 100% felt weird too, just use zoom where applicableyou are better off buying a discount C6 on sale next timeC5 were 500 bux legit it was cheap as shitsince u can't cope with 55"42" is not that large eitherI kinda almost regret not just buying a cheapo C5chaepest ive ever seen the C 42" series
>>110274956>How the fuck there is not a single modern 42 inch model?Because they'll just sell that as TV and install all the datamining software on itRemember with TVs "We Own The Glass We Own The TV" with monitors you do so they jack the price up double to triple. That's also why there are like 30 monitors with confusing spec and shitty uniformity it's all on purpose.
>>110274537Same. Itll be like those early 90s computer ads in a few years. $1400 for 64mb of ram?? What idiot paid that!
What is the best monitor for shitposting and making memes I do that with my PC for about 90% of the time
>>110275372Daily reminder that there is a singular qdoled tv left on the market in the USofA and that is the S95H (S99H in eu)Soon qdoled tvs might be relics of the past... goys didn't buy the best tech, they bought the slop, minileds and woledsnow soon you won't have access to this forgotten techyou will be shilled small monitors insteadgoys caused this>>110275411qdoled
Best SFF case for a NAS/Server?
>>110275646Jonsbo N4
>>110275424In the eu the market is flooded with TCL, HiSense, and LG televisions in retailers
So you can add Chrome.exe as a game in AMD panel and its funny how much it treats it as a game. You get full of statistics and everything. It's basically a DX11 app and it even benefits from shit like AMD Anti Lag.
>>110268352why is that old adobe spec said like A10 apu or better
>>110269108possibly if you homeprint with 16-bit xps printer driver or use avif
>>110275946If it's treating chrome as a game then it's also boosting the clocks so you're just generating more power and heat for no good reason.
>>110276012There is no "maximize clocks" option like Nvidia. It runs at idle clocks.
>PCs with 32 GB and 64 GB of RAM are becoming less common, at least in the latest CPU-Z Validator statistics. According to Doc TB, one of the developers behind CPU-Z, this is the first time RAM capacity on PCs has declined year over year. 32 GB is still the most popular configuration at 37.2% of validations, though its share is down 2.5% compared to a year ago. 64 GB took a much bigger hit, falling 18% to 7.3%. Lower capacities are moving the other way, with 16 GB up 12.9% to 33.0% and 8 GB up 5.5% to 11.0%, while 96 GB and 128 GB setups dropped by more than 26% each. Memory type tells a similar story, with DDR4 now making up 54.5% of validations, up 6.0%, while DDR5 slipped 2.9% to 32.9%.it grim out there
>MSI>ASUS>GIGABYTEwhich one for an AM5 motherboard?
>>110276268bought shitty CL36 64GB (2x32) for $620 in December 2025 at the beginning of the RAMpocalypsetoday it's $1100 for the same RAM
I thought i saved money by not wanting to spend $300 on a 64gb cl30 kit. and got a $90 32gb cl36 kit. turns out i was very wrong. and claude keeps running into the oom killer if i'm trying to vibecode 2 projects at the same time
>>110276475LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOhe was really trying to pass off getting shagged by a literal spy as normal business
>>110276475asian pussy is to tempting, even the greatest among us succumb to it
>>110276519He could have his choice of any asian pussy in the world and yet somehow he falls for the literal spy
>>110276490Claude, invent a time machine please :((I also got an additional $10 off that's not shown here)
>>110276528I think what the case may be, is that he's such a huge nerdy sperg, that the woman had to be the one to aggressively pursue him in order for him to actuallly go for her.If it was up to him taking the initiative, he would have never approached her.
Why are DDR5 timings so atrocious compared to DDR4?Just how it is, or is all the good RAM in datacenters?
>>110276470I bought 2x32GB kit CL28 for €235 in early 2025. It's €2,300 now.
>>110276566No that's how it is DDR5 is trash. Same RAM that will go to shit and be totally unstable if it hits 50C or even the mid 40s with some kits. The servers do have better, proper ECC RAM but desktop gets the worst of the worst, even the best kits.
>>110276566Latency is similar if not better than DDR4It's measured in clocks so even a doubling in CAS means the actual latency is the same if the clock speed also doubled.DDR5 also has split channels so some asynchronous operations can happen even on the same DIMM.
>Tom Shardware still providing many fixes and solutions to this dayThank you Shards.
>>110276566Memory has been sacrificing timing for a long time. I have a quad channel workstation and the latency at 6400mts 39-39-39-76 is the same as ddr4 3200. (80ns)
>>110276590I was thinking of upgrading my system mid/late 2025, and just as I wanted to go through all of this happened>>110276593>>110276602I see, thank you.So, do I keep my AM4 board and buy an older CPU+DDR4, or is that folly and I should bite the bullet and buy the more expensive stuff? I've the money, but I'd rather not waste it...
>>110276592Desktop gets almost the exact same RAM as the servers in terms of general reliability.The problem is that people demand RAM that's faster than JEDEC speeds so all the reliability gets tossed right at the window the moment EXPO/XMP is turned on.Servers always run at JEDEC.
>>110276566speed at the expense of latencynothing new and actually the only way to make memory better
>>110276610You don't upgrade because of a new memory generation.The need for DDR5 just comes with a platform upgrade but it's not in itself worth it.
>>110276632last time I was thinking about PC hardware was in 2017 desu, postan from a Ryzen 1600.>>110276650sure, what I meant is whether I should stay on AM4, or is the jump to AM5 worth it?
>>110276683depends if you need a more powerful CPU, that's all that matters.if buying brand new, of course go for am5 and ddr5
>>110276705>more powerful CPUyeah, that's the entire point. but the eg 5900XT should be much more powerful than my current CPU, too.
>>110276610If you are going to play shitty games just get a 5800x3d and overclock a rdna2 gpu like a 6800 or 6900.
>>110276715If you can find a dirt cheap used 5900xt than go for it. But you could also sell your current cpu/mobo/ram and put that towards an am5 system to save you quite a lot on the cost of ddr5.
>>110276475a dirty huang... tsk. tsk.Nvidia just can't catch a break it seems.
>>110276475lol fucking crazy shit all his kids work at nvidia too kek that's the email they get
>>110276715Better to buy am5 now since ddr5 is not getting cheaper. Fabs are already completely booked for production going into 2029, so it's only going to get worse for at least 3+ years no matter what happens to the stock market.
>>110265668If you already have ddr5 and willing to buy a 1851 mobo, you're better off with 250k or 270k plus. Much better value than 14th gen
Is the 5050 good enough or should i save up for a 5060ti?I mainly wanna play games at 1080p 144 or if its a story heavy game at 4k 60 fpsI already have a 2x16gb DDR4 ram i also need a new cpu and motherboard What would you recomend for me if i want a pc that is gonna be good enough for the next 5 years or so?The main game im looking forward to play is Bannerlord with a few mods to increase the troop numbers to an semi realistic ammount like 5k troops
>>110264500Did Nvidia cave in back to supporting Windows 10 or am I just misunderstanding this
>>1102768155050s are for home media servers get a 5060wait> or if its a story heavy game at 4k 60 fpsget a 5080
>>110276823they've always supported it they dropped all support for pascal (10 series) or older cards
>>110276795do I splurge? I've existed with 16gigs for so long, I yearn to feel something again>>110276750all my stuff is super old, it'd be worth no more than ~100-150€. might as well donate that to frens
>>110276841rip 1080Ti...
>>110276815sell your current system.Get a used 3080/4070 and an AM5 build.Avoid 50/60 series like the plague, they such ass and it's always a better deal to buy last gen 1 tier above used.
i'm building a ddr4 system ;_;
>>110276847It's not even a splurge brother, you'd be doing yourself a favour in the long run saving money. Prices will only go higher.
>>110276861where do you live? you can have my stuff see: >>110276847
>>110276841https://www.guru3d.com/story/nvidia-confirms-end-of-windows-10-gpu-driver-support-starting-november/so what does this mean if >>110276823
>>110276917>>110276917>>110276917
>>110265782With CXL memory expanders none of hyperscalers is letting go of their ddr5 or ddr4. Prices will never go down again.
stopped in to say after decades of using CRT, TN, VA, IPS panels, i took the QD-OLED Gen5 Penta Tandem RGB V-Stripe pill. it's like using a better CRT without using a CRT.
>>110275824Yeah and And Samsung
Lol I bought 8 3090s a couple months ago, they're selling for $1800-2000 now.
