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Users of all levels are welcome to ask questions about GNU/Linux and share their experiences.

*** Please be civil — notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread. ***

Before asking for help, please check our list of resources.

Check the Wikis (most troubleshoots work for all distros):
https://wiki.debian.org
https://wiki.archlinux.org
https://wiki.gentoo.org

>Which distro should I choose?
https://nosystemd.org
https://systemdfree.com
>What are some cool programs?
https://suckless.org
https://sl.netcat.uk
>What are some cool terminal commands?
https://cheat.sh
>Where can I learn the command line?
RTFM
>Where can I learn more about Free Software?
https://fsf.org
https://gnu.org
https://stallman.org
>How to break out of the botnet?
https://kycnot.me
https://privacyguides.org

GNU/Linux Games:
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Previous thread: >>110261073
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Genuinely never seen anyone unironically say "I use Arch btw", I see people constantly mocking/joking about Arch users saying it tho.

I've never used Arch btw
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>>110279458
niggers in the past did it, arch is a meme for retards anyway
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>>110279458
>>110279470
You had to be there. It's just a stale meme to regurgitate it now that everyone uses it btw.
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>>110279486
The linux bandwagon made it into a normie meme
Every YT video that mentions arch includes it
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>>110279458
I use fedora btw :^)
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>>110279458
I don't say that meme catchphrase but I am a new Linux user. I've had Arch installed for a few weeks now, and aside from a couple of random hiccups which I solved there and then, it's surprisingly great for me to daily drive, especially as I'm getting old now.
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>>110279575
>especially as I'm getting old now
Ironically one of the reasons to run Fedora. Jorkstation.
>>110279470
>arch is a meme for retards
Not really. It is the easiest way to get fresh packages.
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>>110279470
...if a meme for retards actually meant best distro for very intelligent and handsome users...
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>>110279458
I assume the reason why people allegedly say this is because they think others will think they're le ebin 500 IQ 1337 h4x0rm4n. I have never, in all my life, been able to understand why someone would try to imply that them using Arch somehow makes them a 1337 hackerman. I installed it a few years back, doing it "the Arch way" with the commands and everything. I'd only been using Linux for about 6 months at that point, yet it was still very easy to install. All it took was a laptop sitting on my desk next to me with the Arch wiki open, and manually copy-pasting commands onto my PC from my laptop. I couldn't believe how fucking easy it was.
>This is le ebin h4x0r distro that you need 50 billion IQ minimum to even consider installing?
>All you do is type a few commands and boom, your OS is now installed.

That experience just made me think Arch users are narcissistic retards that think typing:
$ pacstrap /mnt base
$ arch-chroot /mnt
$ pacman -S dwm

makes them some kind of 70 quadrillion IQ god-tier Linux user.

Here's my verdict on Arch:

Good distro.

Easier installation than the users would make you think (yes, even when installing it "the Arch way" and not with the install script).

Pretentious community that isn't as high IQ as they think they are.
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>>110280435
I also installed Arch after only using Ubuntu for a few months. At that time it still had the original tui installer though. Installing it "the Arch way" was always a meme because the only reason it didn't have an installer was that they simply didn't have the manpower to keep the old installer up-to-date.
That's said I'll probably stay on Arch forever because every other distro feels wrong. Debian is okay too
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How do you all feel about artix?
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>>110280519
It's Arch without systemd, basically. Some people want that so there it is.
Though IMO it got much easier to use thanks to the more recent mirror ranking tool rate-mirrors actually having an Artix use flag unlike reflector.
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>>110280519
>How do you all feel about artix?
It's pretty good. It let's you enjoy the good things about Arch, without the systemD bloat. I didn't notice much of a difference between Artix and Arch. The installation is more or less the same. Actually using the OS is almost identical. The main difference is that you can't use systemctl, obviously. You have to substitute that command with whatever init software you chose for your Artix box.

There are also some other subtle differences. A lot of normie software, such as Discord, require your OS to have systemD. I found this out when my friends all peer pressured me into making a Discord account so we could have group chats. The Discord application refused to install on Artix, but installed just fine on Arch. I later told them all that we should just hang out in person instead of doing this "online group chat" thing that they all seem so interested in. It just seems really fucking lame to hang out with your friends in an online group chat when they only live a 10 minute drive from your house.

Anyway, speaking of systemD-less distros, what about Devuan? The Debian equivalent of Artix. How do you all feel about that?
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>>110280743
>Devuan
I don't like it. Debian is better.
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>>110279437
Arch lol. Fkin' hobbyboxes.
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>>110280743
I tried it a couple of times but couldn't get it to boot after installing it. But this was all the way back when the systemd shitstorm started, so it might be a different story now (if I ever try to use it again).

>>110280768
How so? Devuan is literally just Debian without systemd. It's arguably more Debian than current Debian, as it was created by the original Debian team that left after Ian suddenly killed himself (which conveniently, for RHEL, happened after they had refused to adopt systemd).
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>>110280811
Debian didn't refuse to adopt Systemd. They literally had a free vote over it and their developers chose to adopt it.

It was a huge drama at the time but never any question over its legitimacy.
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Three letter agent glow so bright...
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Some stupid cunt keeps trying to SSH into my VPS. Password logins are disabled of course, it's just key-based logins. So hopefully they won't get in, but still, they should fuck off.
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>>110280931
they are mostly on /pol/, /int/ and /r9k/.

/g/ has some.
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>>110280811
>I tried it a couple of times but couldn't get it to boot after installing it
Sorry to hear that, anon. I've never had any issues with Devuan like that. But then again, I only used it for the first time just a few years ago. Maybe there were some growing pains when Devuan was in it's infancy? I don't know, but it works fine nowadays.

>>110280768
In my opinion, Devuan is much better than Debian because it gives you more freedom over your init software.
>Debian
>You must have systemD. No exceptions!
>Devuan
>Choose from these three init software. Pick whichever one suits you best.
It's only three init systems, not every single init that exists. But that's still better than having one and only one init available during installation. The whole point of using Linux is to be able to make your OS actually be **your** OS. Not to have particular software forced onto you. If I wanted to be cucked into using certain software, I'd go back to microslop.
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>>110280973
Systemd just works
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>>110280959
Welcome to the Internet.
>I can't get in
>If I keep trying maybe they will let me in
Set up sshguard to make them fuck off:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Sshguard
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>>110281005
Better yet would also be to not expose SSH publicly in the first place too. You can use an overlay network or VPN or even a Tor hidden service to securely access the machine without exposing ports.
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>>110279458
It's an old as fuck thing now, think 2012, relegated only to memes.
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>it actually worked without much hassle
I didn't know gaming on Linux was that easy. I finally can do something unproductive.
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>>110281221
Playing games on Linux has never been easier thanks to the latest versions of GE-Proton or umu-launcher.
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>>110281229
I can play a game to lower kpis of my team instead of posting on g. Very satisfying.
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Does elementary OS still have major bugs?
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>>110281325
Yes, and it's still garbo
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Bros, what's there to dislike about ubuntu besides snap? I just installed lubuntu 26.10 in a virtual machine, minimal install selected (the minimal calamares install for lubuntu, kubuntu and ubuntu unity excludes snap infrastructure altogether), prevented any packages or updates from pulling snap as a dependency and it feels great. Blazingly fast even, but that might just be LXQt being good (better than KDE so far imo, but it could be because I'm usefd to XFCE)
With snapshit removed and locked down, what's there to dislike about Ubuntu in relation to Debian?
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>>110281337
Ubuntu is basically a sellout of Linux world collaborating with Ms on creating a controlled opposition that does things in very opinionated way.

In simple terms: it's basically baby's first distro that teaches you bad habits and ties to Ms ecosystem as an os for vms.
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thinking I should take my 8 year old laptop and replace its windows 10 install with a lightweight windows-like linux thingy
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Or kind of like going to friend's place and playing on their computer and loading heavily modified game on q private server and then going back to your home and trying to play retail.

I wish I could explain it this way to management.
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>>110281337
>With snapshit removed and locked down, what's there to dislike about Ubuntu in relation to Debian?
all the other shit that's different to debian:
ads (ubuntu-advantage, motd-news)
telemetry (ubuntu-report, apport)
beta coreutils rewritten in rust
built-in local privilege escalation for lxd
netplan.io
90% of ubuntu packages (ubuntu's universe repo) are unsupported dumps from debian
...
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>>110281484
>>110281369
I see
off to installing debian I guess
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>Rhel contact
Hey how do you do? Did you do anything cool? We have new things :)
>Ubuntu contact
Hello customer. I am sir Jazeet Pierre Sales rep. Thanks for joining our presentation about x. It won't solve any of your problems and I don't care because contacting you to purchase Ubuntu(tm) pro(tm) subscription is a punishment from my manager. <Cracking noises> /indian guy joins/ hello? HELLO I AM HERR TO SUPPORT THE LICENSES DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS
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>>110281531
so you are paying for rhel but freeloading ubuntu? then you are surprised that paying customers are treated better?
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>>110281554
We pay for both at work.
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>>110281584
are those accounts worth the same? i don't understand the ubuntu pro angle.
what where the actual job titles of those contacts? are you comparing a tam to an ae?
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>>110281381
8 year old PCs in the current year aren't that weak even, you can literally check out any "normal" distro.
>>110281337
>what's there to dislike about ubuntu besides snap
Nothing much.
>minimal install selected
What's that exactly? I mean I've bootstrapped a minimal Ubuntu and if I recall correctly the system was pulled via "ubuntu-minimal" metapackage. And from the looks of it, it didn't appear any different from minimal base Debian or Arch or Fedora.
I assume any Linux system out there is more or less like this: https://linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/stable-systemd/chapter03/packages.html
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>>110281690
>I mean I've bootstrapped a minimal Ubuntu and if I recall correctly the system was pulled via "ubuntu-minimal" metapackage.
that doesn't qualify as bootstrapping. bootstrapping starts from scratch not ubuntu-minimal. you would have to use `debootstrap`.
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>>110281703
I did use Debootstrap. But I can't arse myself to figure out the bootstrapping script Debootstrap used in that scenario, it always picks an initial package. It could've been "ubuntu-core" too.
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>>110281652
It's too doxable for both sides to give any more details.
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>>110281739
at least answer why you would mix rhel and ubuntu.
i guess ubuntu and landscape is nicer for desktops than rhel and satellite. but then most companies would just hand out macbooks.
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>>110281337
>>110281529
I like both Debian and Ubuntu. Ubuntu has an advantage of newer packages (both 26.04 LTS and 26.10 have newer packages than the latest version of Debian, which is 13). A drawback of Ubuntu is that if you want security updates for everything in Ubuntu's repos (especially the universe repo) then you need to register for Ubuntu Pro. It's free on up to 5 computers, but still, it's annoying having to register for it.

If you don't mind slightly older system packages then Debian is a good choice. Or if you want newer packages and you don't mind registering for Ubuntu Pro then I think that choice is also sensible.
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>>110281834
Because I and others work on Linux and we have Ubuntu and other distros depending on preferences or project. They got my email either from some conference or because I got few licenses assigned to me and by any means I'm not the right person to contact. I don't have any strong opinions about Oracle or sle or whatever Amazon is using.
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>>110281886
>have newer packages than the latest version of Debian
For now. They flip every year. Two year cycle for Ubuntu LTS and Debian stable, but one on even years and one on odd years.
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>>110279437
does multi monitor setups (desktop PCs) still causes issues/problems with the latest Ubuntu builds, I'm planning to migrate from Windows soon, and this might be a dealbreaker for me
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>>110282242
Those would be issues with drivers for specific cards not Ubuntu issues. It's a moving target.
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Hi I'm new with Linux, I fit loaded a tar.gz file and I'm trying to install it, but doble click does nothing. Asking chatgpt, it seems to be like a .zip file but I extract it and I see no installer, but everyone is assuming this is a normal program, what am I supposed to do with this?
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>>110282403
*Downloaded
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>>110282242
I don't use Ubuntu but I've been rocking two monitors at different refresh rates for over a month on Fedora (KDE) with absolutely zero problems. I even turn on my drawing tablet from time to time, which would be a third monitor in the mix.
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>>110282242
>>110282264
sorry, forgot to add, currently have:
>GTX 1080TI
>one, 27" AOC Q27G4S, 1440p display, 300Hz
>and one, AOC 27G2E, 1080p display, 144hz
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>>110282464
>novidio
>it must be the os and not spydaddy gpu
Get a real video adapter and try again.
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>>110282403
can't really say without seeing it myself but archives like that usually contain source code rather than an installer
if you see instructions for installing it with your package manager you should probably follow those instead, as that's the orthodox on Linux

>>110282524
>friendly gnu/linux thread
no bullying
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>>110282524
not really a "friendly" reply on a "friendly thread", is it OP?
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>>110282532
Cultists need a reality check. They already know the answer or they wouldn't have skipped that reasoning step in the question. They want to hear that, no, it actually was Ubuntu's fault for some newly discovered reason. Nope. Your drivers fucking suck and leather jacket man's too busy fleeing to Israel to fix them.
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>>110279437
Not funny
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>>110279437
Very funny
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>>110282464
hard to say since I don't use ubuntu anymore, but you're begging for issues with wayland and nvidia
xorg worked fine with me (2060, 1080p and a 4k) but I did have some minor issues that were caused by varied DPI between the monitors.
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>>110282682
Very retarded
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>>110282242
For 26.04
Ubuntu/gnome no
Xubuntu yes
Kubuntu yes minor issues


>>110282403
Extract with tar -xaf
chmod +x executable
./executable

>>110282524
>>110282721
Nvidia works okay on Ubuntu.

>>110282615
What cultists?
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>>110282835
>Xubuntu yes
>Kubuntu yes
These are the only two brainfucked Windows refugee nVidia cultists use.
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>>110282912
I like xubuntu because I like xfce and it's lightweight.
Kubuntu has good multimedia support but is bloated windows refugee flavor.
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I use GNOME btw.
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>>110282912
the refugees are using mint and cachy
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>>110282972
Works fine and has okay features. Works best with touch screens. The best enterprise feature coverage.
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>>110282835
>Extract with tar -xaf
>chmod +x executable
more like
>Extract with tar -xaf
>enter dir
>./configure
>make

>>110282403
Read the README
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>>110282981
Depends which meme layer they're on.
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>>110283054
>>enter dir
Yes

>./configure
>make
Depends on the software itself. A lot of modern stuff is labeled as "Linux universal" and it's just like windows zip. For extra correctness I'd put tared software in /opt.
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>>110279437
>>Which distro should I choose?
>https://nosystemd.org
>https://systemdfree.com
Retarded ass general
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>>110279437
Am I disabled? I found this website for appimages, but none of the pages have a download button or even include the word itself at all. Then what the hell is the point? example:
https://appimage.github.io/Kaidan/
>>110280519
Arch with an init system of your choosing and multiple installation options. There's even GUI ones with stuff like KDE or XFCE already pre-installed. Pretty neat.
>>110280743
Not sure about "vanilla" Discord, but clients like Vesktop work without issues (yeah I know, but a friend sort of forced me into installing it kek). You really won't find problems running most normie programs on Artix, those issues arise when you're doing autistic things like running a docker container or stuff like that. Even then, if you're already messing around with alternative init systems, writing your own init script for a program shouldn't be too hard for ya. I think there's even an init script repo specifically for this, called AURIS, but never had an use for it.
>Devuan
Debian without systemd, though in my experience I always had problems installing it, some issue with mirrors or whatever.
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>>110282242
Wayland fixed it

>>110282464
>Nvidia
It's a coinflip. AMD GPUs are the only real option for desktop Linux
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Just saw this in the Lunar Linux README file
>RTFM.
>If you need more help and the provided information is not sufficient, you can get more help the following way:
>[BLANK]
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>>110280501
Debian/Ubuntu is better than Arch lol. The kicker for me personally after using Arch for 6+ years was I realized most distros have wayy saner default configurations than Arch.
>muh Wiki

>>110281337
Debian does a few things around the edges better than Ubuntu other than no Snap but Debian Stable is unusable
>LXQt
Very good DE
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>>110283815
what saner defaults?
why conflate debian with ubuntu? they have different defaults. f.ex. ubuntu replaced gnu coreutils with buggy rust coreutils in 26.04.
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>>110283815
>reeee my DIY distro only uses upstream configs
Listen to yourself
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>>110283335
That site just seems to be a user-maintained index of apps that offer AppImages. They probably don't give links because each app distributes its image differently (we've regressed to the haphazard Windows method of randomly downloading binaries). The one you linked notably doesn't offer an AppImage on their website.
The AppImage itself can specify a place to update from. I think Gear Lever will check that for you.
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>>110283815
>saner defaults
if by saner defaults you mean they poison default browser configs like a mfer, you're right
with arch, you get the most sane defaults you can ever have.
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>>110283335
>clients like Vesktop work without issues
Sort of, they are Electron (yuck) wrappers around the web UI and I had 2 big problems with them:
1. the mic quality sucks ass for some reason. it's an Electron thing apparently, which the official version integrates differently somehow. vesktop and other mods have plugins that supposedly help this problem
2. keybinds don't work properly, even on x11. the official app used to just listen to all keystrokes via x11, on wayland it recently started supporting registering plasma keybinds

additionally, pisscord is getting rewritten in rust so the days of web client mods seem numbered. the official web client will probably become wasm
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>>110284098
>>110284008
>>110283891
Arch neckbeards reporting in
I guess I forgot to
>read the Wiki
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>>110284162
Yes, you should've read it
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>>110284165
Get a life and stop playing Linux config carnival / Linux dress up
>btw I use (Arch) Linux
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>>110284185
Just stop installing stuff blindly
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>>110284194
Sorry I forgot to read
>the Wiki
Next time I'll definitely do that before installing software on my OS

What a joke
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>>110284211
Apology accepted
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>>110284220
Incel
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>>110284165
>You require support for an architecture other than x86_64
Valve just did it themselves for aarch64. It's kind of unbelievable that in the year of our Lord 2026, Arch still does not support any architecture besides amd64.
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can someone explain what the actual fuck Proton (as in Steam) actually does? I'm so confused by what it actually is and I've even asked AI and I'm still confused.
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>>110284185
Stop dressing up your computer with alternative pedo operating systems. Windows is more than enough for the average user you freak
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>>110284270
Arch is a total gamer/incel/no-life distro

And it uses all the stuff developed by actual developers working on Debian/Ubuntu/Fedora
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>>110284332
All distros use the stuff developed by other actual developers. We're all in this together. Debian/Ubuntu/Fedora almost certainly rely on software partly maintained/developed by Arch developers too.
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I'm going down a fucking rabbithole trying to connect Ubuntu to the web
I CAN access my PC using html5 viewer, so there is local access.

Should I just switch distros? I only picked Ubuntu Desktop since it seemed the most hassle free but I'm getting fucking miffed with this DNS crap
I also don't like it's taking up 4GB of RAM in my system
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>>110284344
>>110284332
Or it's actually someone's PhD. I'm grateful for that. But nocap a lot of stuff is shared between distros.
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>>110284332
>Arch is a total gamer/incel/no-life distro
holy trifecta of based
>>
Just make your own distro specially crafted for your needs
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In Arch Linux. When I yay -Syu and don't restart my PC, Steam doesn't find my (Xbox) controller when I turn it on. I doubt it's an issue with my bluetooth, well I know it isn't since I can see it connect as well as my headphones. Any idea why this happens?
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>>110284649
It probably faild because the kernel got updated and the system tries to load the old modules. You should reboot after updating.
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>>110284649
That's normal. Programs don't like getting rugpulled
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who else is doing an LFS installation?
including VM's, because that's what i'm doing.
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>>110284322
Make Steam games work on Steam, and only on Steam. If you try using Proton outside of Steam such as in Bottles, things can easily break. It's a fork of Wine but rebranded and retooled by Valve for Steam.
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>>110284649
Anon pls, some people might brag that you never ever need to restart your system after an update but this is only half-true.
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How's Lubuntu if I want something light but still have a DE?
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>>110284731
why's pacman this retarded and deletes the old modules when the old kernel is still running? no other distro has this problem.
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>>110283815
>The kicker for me personally after using Arch for 6+ years was I realized most distros have wayy saner default configurations than Arch.
Arch just uses default upstream configs most of the time so your grievance is actually with upstreams shit defaults.

Distros like Debian will tend to patch things to be more sane but sometimes that leads to lots of Debianisms which isn't always the best either (see the famous OpenSSL bug that resulted from Debian patching it incorrectly)
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>>110284233
Better an incel than braindead
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>>110285673
Could be lighter. SystemD and Ubuntu in general are heavy.
But it's light enough, more often than not. I do recommend you do a minimal install (nothing but the DE, not even a web browser. Only reasonable way to avoid SNAP, and only works for Lubuntu, Kubuntu and Unity) and prevent SNAP infrastructure from being pulled as a dependency (ask a clanker). The ads in apt can be turned off, but the infrastructure somehow is important for ubuntu-minimal package. Telemetry is just crash reports, all opt-in, saved via apport and sent to canonical via whoopsie, and can be deleted.
Alternatively you could just use Linux Mint XFCE and not fight your system, or if you're fine with having shit be less updated and more stable, you could just use Debian or Devuan, if you really want apt.
If you don't care for apt, a gajillion distros are viable. I personally recommend Void Linux.

TL;DR
Lubuntu Minimal Install is fine I guess.
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>>110285773
there are lots of things where there's no upstream but the distro has to choose what to do. f.ex. the bootloader: arch defines no default and lets you figure it out. this leads to suboptimal results.
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>>110285821
But you still inherit the upstream grub-mkconfig, etc. It sounds like you just have a problem with doing things yourself rather than the configs (which is fair enough, distros like Debian do tend to make that easier although Arch does have an installer script now)
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>>110280811
>How so? Devuan is literally just Debian without system
Until you start using it and experience bugs Debian doesn't have
>It's arguably more Debian than current Debian, as it was created by the original Debian team that left after Ian suddenly killed himself (which conveniently, for RHEL, happened after they had refused to adopt systemd)
Evidence? I thought it was a small subset of devs that left after systemd won the Debian init war.
>>110280973
>In my opinion, Devuan is much better than Debian because it gives you more freedom over your init software.
You can install alternate inits on Debian.
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>>110285829
not every config can be changed at runtime.
f.ex. there's no way to get multiple versioned kernels in arch. a broken kernel update can leave you stranded.
https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/16702
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>>110283558
Kek. But why did you go for that instead of Gentoo?
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>>110285673
>I want something light but still have a DE
Artix with your DE of choice.
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>>110286483
I wanted to try something weird out.
It's just easy mode SMGL after all. Gentoo's objectively superior.
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>>110287075
It's also the most outdated "maintained" distro I've ever seen in my life.
Their example for GCC optimization is for GCC 2.x/3.x, with 4.x being "unstable bleeding edge"

...we're at GCC 16.x currently.
>>
I recently accidentally spilled quite a bit of water on my keyboard and I have to say, this thing has more functions that you'd think. For example, I didn't know computers had a weird semi-sleep mode that is fast as hibernate while also shutting down the fans and everything.
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>>110286467
Just install a different kernel. You can have multiple kernels fine, just not multiple versions of the same kernel package.

If you need that then the Arch way would be to create different packages for each version you want.
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>>110284332
>>110284456
Looks like someone failed the installation process. Arch is a basic binary distro, just like Debien/Ubuntu/Fedora. There's nothing to it.
>>110284344
All distros have to *develop* their own packages thoughever and the build process can vary.
>>110283110
>For extra correctness I'd put tared software in /opt.
Depends how it's packaged. Usually such binaries would go under /usr/local but sometimes /opt.
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>>110280519
Recently moved to it, it's great, everything I want and nothing I don't want
>>110280743
I'm able to use Discord on Artix without any issue got it from Arch extra
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>>110288315
>got it from Arch extra
Are you sure it didn't install systemd along the way? NTA, just curious. Also- if I had to use Discord, I'd just use the browser version.
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>The 7.3.3 stable kernel rebase contains new features, improved hardware support, and a number of important fixes across the tree.
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>>110288387
Hahaha, that's a good one anon. Anyway, I sometimes use the streaming feature so the browser version won't cut it.
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OpenSUSE tumbleweed
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>BMC is detected on the network just fine
>Linux Mint from the bootable drive is detected on the network as "Mint"
>Linux Mint installed on the drive isn't
What could be causing this??
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>"apt search" always buries the specific result I'm looking for, so I end up having to spam shift+pageup to find it.
what do?
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>>110288769
No codecs
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>>110288866
Chameleon tho
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>>110288854
apt-cache search
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>>110279437
>decide it's time to maybe think about reinstalling windblows or maybe going to linux because it's time to reinstall some OS
>all right, decide on Linux Mint just to test
>get .iso
>make bootstick after all the hassle and hours for it to fucking write to stick
>all right, let's test run this
>boot it up in the test bootstick run (bootable stick or whatever it's called)
>aight cool. I could get used to this
>no fucking internet...huh...
>boot back into main OS to search why it can't find my wifi card
>pls saar download the package drivers saar
Fucking what? How does it not come with the most basic drivers? I kinda need the interwebz to test like 98% of everything I do on this thing. I'm not wiping the drive unless I can do said things.
I know I came off as a dick there, it's just my frustration talking. Do I really have to apt-get some driver for my wifi card? As in, Ethernet my computer to even get Internet in the first place to even test if it'll work for the things I need? What's the process? I hard-wire the thing to get interwebz, apt-get the drivers for wifi, then just don't turn the fucker off while I test because it's a bootstick? If it works, then wipe drive, install, and repeat that Ethernet step to get wifi to set it all back up again?
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>>110289512
>hassle and hours for it to fucking write to stick
I should have stopped reading right there.
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>>110289512
Boot to Fedora, and if the wifi is working, the issue is the outdated kernel that ships with Mint.
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>>110288854
apt search "*thing*" | grep thing
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>>110288854
apt search | fzf
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i made manual patches for memory management of kwin, qt, gtk and nvidia-open
now i am getting 4+ hrs of build time on nixos
fuck
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>>110289572
I thought this was the friendly thread but okay. Thanks for the help!
>>110289965
Does Mint not ship with a good kernel? All I did was go to the Mint website and download their latest. Are they just slow to the uptake? Honestly I was juggling between Mint or Ubuntu. I am babby's first Linux try so booli all you want. I was just trying to move over.
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>>110290464
I'm just trying to help out; Mint ships with a modified version of the ubuntu-lts kernel. You can update the kernel in their software center if you have an ethernet port. That might get that resolved for you. Make sure that if you get it up and running that you enable ufw. It should be listed in their start menu as Firewall, which is the graphical version of ufw. Alternatively, like I mentioned, just boot into the Fedora 45 live environment and see if the wireless driver is included in a newer kernel version.
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I extracted the tar gz file and now I'm moving it to opt. It's like 1 gb and it's taking 13 minutes, I'm windows it's almost instant if I have some folder in my desktop and I want to move it into file programs in C.

Is this normal? I'm using Cachy os
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I'm copying using dolphin. I'm gonna be honest, I tried using some rpg maker games and they don't work, many programs I install in windows normally I need to do extra configurations or weird stuff with their Linux counterpart and the hello installer had outdated versions or things that do not work (I had to use another version of pycharm because the one in the manager doesn't deal with Jupiter notebook filed)

Is this like this always? I needed something that just works but in reality I'm fighting against each program I want to use. I can't be doing this eternally.
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>>110290693
Probably faster with the terminal; Largely depends on if the file explorer is trying to verify the integrity of the file transfer and also the file-system type.
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>>110290723
I had to go to dolphin settings and allow administrator because it wasn't letting me copy paste files into it. It seems like the opt is the same folder as program files in C in windows. But it's taking 15 mins to move a simple gigabyte and in windows it doesn't take that much time. This is not normal, I thought you guys said Linux is faster than windows but every single program with wine or normal usage takes more time to load than in windows, plus the compatibility problems.

And I have a clean installation, I haven't done anything weird yet. Is this normal, am I missing something? I don't understand.

It has asked me for permissions like 6 times already, is there no way of doing things with the IU, fast, and not asking me constantly admin privileges and having to allow options in settings all the time?
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Now it says administrator authorization had expired, wtf is this? I get the whole deal about making things secure but one thing is that, the other is to make things unusable.

Installing a program shouldn't waste this much time, for fucks sake, I'm getting so frustrated.
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>>110290756
I think you're thinking of /usr/bin
And then program settings/cache is in var or ~/.cache depending on if it's a system wide setting or user setting.
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I have the tar gz in the opt folder and now the GUI doesn't let me extract here despite having admin privileges
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>>110290786
What's the program?
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>>110290782
Where am I supposed to extract the folders?
I'm assuming the tar gz file is the program itself, and the folder it gives it's supposed to go in their "program files folder in c" version of Linux, what is that?

Or do they expect you to extract the compressed file in downloads or desktop and use it there.

It doesn't create a desktop shortcut either, do I have to create a shortcut manually too? Do programs in Linux not come with an installer that does the thing automatically?
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>>110290799
You probably don't have to copy it anywhere; Just extract to a sub-directory anywhere you like and there's likely a bin file you can click to launch the application. Like I said, what is the application?
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>>110290790
Pycharm. I tried using the hello cachyosanager but said version doesn't have jupyter notebook support, so I need the version in their webpage.

In windows I download the indtaller, I launch it and everything is set, no problem.

Here it gives me instructions in a txt file where it says "install it where you want" and the exe file is inside the bin folder inside the extracted folder.

Something that takes me literally 20 seconds in windows is taking a lot slot longer here in Linux. And moving files tales 20-30 minutes for some reason, I don't understand.
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>>110290799
Maybe read the installation instruction of the program you're trying to install? Is it not available in the repos of your distro or as a flatpak/appimage?
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>>110290810
There is no standard folder to have program folders in Linux?
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I'm gonna be honest, I don't want to rant or rage, but at this point I'm gonna install windows 11 again on my laptop. At least shit worked there. I can't be wasting time and time and time again every time I need a new program or game, it doesn't work, in fucking 2026 Linux doesn't work
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>>110290815
Pycharm in the AUR should do what you want
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>>110290831
So this was easy enough. You extract the tar, then go to the extracted directory, then enter the bin sub-directory. Right click on an open space, and open the directory in terminal. Then type ./pycharm
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>>110290876
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>>110290876
I did that in the desktop. But I tried moving the folder into another folder in the same drove and it takes 12 minutes. I'm what world is this acceptable?
>Just use the console
I don't want to use the console, I want to use the UI, if it has a UI why not use it?

Like, this is not the only problem I have with Cachy os. My Bluetooth headphones don't work, the moment a game isn't a popular game it doesn't work or goes slower than Linux. Normie programs don't work either.

And it's small things like when I make a screen cap, it opens the cap image, like I just want to copy to paste it elsewhere why does it open it unlike windows?

I'm gonna be honest, it's death by a thousand cuts, I have to waste time and waste time and everything is counterintuitive. Why is it asking me for admin privileges yet again after I said yes and yes and yes, I just want to move some files, install some programs and that's it. It should not be this big of a chore.
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>>110290819
I don't have to read shit on windows, I want a program I click the exe and it works. I can't waste 30mins-1hour on each program constantly.
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>>110290903
Okay, go do what you want. That's how you get it configured though. After which, you can setup a desktop shortcut or alias to get it running faster, but that's just what the directions say to do.
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>>110285690
wrong, feel free to make an alias to hold the kernel version from updating
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>>110285773
Personally I hate every distro that immediately starts a package's systems service after installing it.
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>>110285821
>lots of things where there's no upstream but the distro has to choose what to do
Yes, it's apparent when building Linux From Scratch for example. And it raises the question about systemd alternatives: why don't any "competing" project provide at least some reference configs or setups for their fancy init systems? No wonder everyone simply goes for systemd.
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>>110291447
OpenRC is pretty good. It's a shame LFS doesn't have the resources to maintain an OpenRC book because it would have been a natural successor to the Sysv one after they dropped that.
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>>110290716
>some rpg maker games
I know what you are.
Bottles is the best way to get dependencies for those and even has an analyzer tool to check what a game needs, if you're not already gone.
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>>110290716
If the RPG Maker game is old enough, you need an RTP installed anyway. Just because you've had them installed for years on windows by now does not an extra Linux specific configuration issue make
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>>110290821
There are several folders for binaries depending on their scope and origin.

>>110290756
Opt is literally a "safe place to put stuff you buy or get from the internet". It's common when you deal with commercial software.
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>>110289512
open your start menu and search for "driver manager", it can instantly solve the majority of issues with proprietary drivers
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Trying to install the deluge-gtk package on Arch but getting a 404 error. Am I just supposed to wait for the servers hosting the package to come up again before I can even use a torrent client on this PC?
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>>110292441
updoot the system with -Syu then install your package. Mirrors don't keep old versions of packages for very long.
Alternatively, if you like to live dangerously, force a package list update with -Sy. Just don't come back and cry that something's broken.
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>>110292476
>updoot the system with -Syu then install your package.
Worked like a dream, thanks. I'll remember to try that first next time.
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sudo dnf check-upgrade
no updates
dnf list "firefox*"
There's an upgrade
sudo dnf upgrade firefox
There's nothing to do
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>>110292506
really lagging behind
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>>110284631
FACTS
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How do I remove old/unwanted entries in the KDE applications menu search? Typing in an entry brings up the list, but there's an item with no file associated with it anymore, cannot be uninstalled, but I cannot seem to find a way to remove it as it doesn't exist in the KDE menu editor. Is there just a config file or similar I can just edit directly?
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>>110293809
what os you on
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>>110288769
>rolling release
yuuck... not even once.
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>>110293917
Fedora
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>>110281325
Bumping for more experiences please
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>>110294376
that's the problem.
Use Arch or Gentoo for extremely minimal KDE.
Even Debian is good...
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Did you notice any performance gains with the new 7.3.x kernel?
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>>110294840
If you have nothing helpful then fuck off.
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TCP Use-After-Free CVE-2026-98432 (critical; CVSS: 9.8) got fixed today in Ubuntu 26.04:
https://ubuntu.com/security/notices/USN-9018-1

For comparison:
Upstream kernel fixed it on Oct 15
(and announced the CVE-2026-98432 without any severity/CVSS rating):
https://lwn.net/Articles/1100611/
Debian 13 fixed it on Oct 16:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/2026/msg00482.html
critical severity and CVSS 9.8 announced on Oct 24:
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/security/vulns.git/commit/?id=5fc5b
SLES 16 fixed it on Oct 24:
https://www.suse.com/support/update/announcement/2026/suse-su-202624446-1/
Anthropic publishes their report on Oct 27:
https://www.anthropic.com/research/discovering-vulnerabilities-with-claude
RHEL 10 fixed it on November 1:
https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2026:93413
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>>110296001
its the only init that makes sense for cloud usage
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>>110296194
systemd isn't networked, so it makes no sense for cloud usage. orchestration is done by k8s. app containers have no need for any init.
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>>110296001
fun fact. only issues i had with systemd were because of misconfiguration of the distro maintainers. it really just works.
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>>110296254
so its just a coincidence that systemd got adopted at the same time cloud became popular?
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>>110295498
this is the friendly general
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Firefox should be available as soon as it offically releases...I WANT IT NOW NOW NOOOOOOW
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>>110289512
People suggest Mint for noobs but in my humble opinion, any moderately competent person with any confidence in their ability to navigate their computer shouldn't be using it. It might be offensive to say, but I believe it's almost exclusively for people who don't know or care what's on their machine.

I agree with the other dude. Skip the headache and try out Fedora. Coming from Windows myself I found it the most sane distro out of the ones I've tried, and I have bounced around a lot over the years. Everyone has their opinion of course, ymmv and whatnot. I just think if someone directed me to Fedora sooner my opinion of Linux would not have been as harsh in the beginning. The name also really doesn't help me take it seriously, but as far as things just werking and programs being available when I want to try something it's been a breeze personally.
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>>110289512
>Do I really have to apt-get some driver for my wifi card? As in, Ethernet my computer to even get Internet in the first place
I've only ever had to use ethernet first and wi-fi later when installing Arch. On Linux Mint, everything should "just werk". It's likely that the kernel doesn't support your wi-fi card, as this anon >>110289965 suggested. Linux Mint is based on Ubuntu LTS (LTS = Long-term support). This means that the default software tend to be older, but also more stable.

>>110289572
Not everyone is an expert on their first day. I remember struggling to make my first USB bootable Linux stick as well. Like everything, practice makes perfect.

>>110290464
>I thought this was the friendly thread
It is. Ignore that idiot. I recommend using Rufus to make USB bootable Linux sticks. It has a GUI for Windows and is fairly intuitive to use. Good luck in the future, anon.
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>>110297047
>moderately competent person
The average American has an IQ of 89
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>>110297083
I mean just wanting to install Linux must put you at a minimum of 100
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>>110291460
What I did I took the sysV version and implemented Runit. And it was awful as the Runit project doesn't provide shit for their binary.
>OpenRC book
>book
IMO the OpenRC devs should provide the instructions so anyone could implement it on any system.
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>>110297047
>any moderately competent person with any confidence in their ability to navigate their computer shouldn't be using it.
People usually suggest Mint for noobs because, well...most people are the "people who don't know or care what's on their machine" that you described.

If a person possesses even a modicum of tech skills, then there's no reason why they couldn't choose Fedora or Debian as their first distro. Hell, even Arch (provided that they're mentally prepared to do a lot of troubleshooting).

But most people; even zoomers who have grown up with technology their whole lives; usually know very little about computers. They've grown up with computers their whole lives...but they've spent that whole time only using Google Chrome to watch Tik Tok and Youtube. Doesn't exactly make for a 1337 h4x0r computer user.

This is why Mint is the go-to recommendation for Linux noobs. It's probably what they actually need as their first distro.
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>>110297047
>>110297155
What's wrong with Mint compared to Fedora?
I've been neckbearding for so long I can't understand why don't people just start with Arch. Or EndeavourOS (which is just Arch) if they want a desktop OOTB.
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>>110296849
Go to Windows then.
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>>110296484
SystemD broke my bootloader OOTB the first time I tried installing arch
The CVE was 12 days old at the time, no idea if it's still there, and my clanker found a patch init script that just masks some useless bloat service I don't need and makes it work again. Some useless bloat service was starting, failing because it was a VM and locking me into the bootloader forever, OOTB in arch.
First experience I ever had with a SystemD distro, only has used Void Linux before that, and it made me appreciate runit a lot.
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>>110297242
In my case I need fractional scaling so GNOME and KDE are the only options
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>>110297092
Installing Gentoo is technically an 80 IQ check. Depends on your reasons for wanting to use it.
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So what happens when Linus Torvalds dies in 10 years?
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>>110297422
for me it was endless waiting on an ubuntu server after not disabling the second nic during the install of the system. systemd would wait until i would plug it in and it could reach cloudinit or something. the device had two and i ever wanted to use the intel nic because the other one was a realkek one.
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Activate mecha-Torvalds
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>>110297454
ai torvalds is going to take his place and hallucinate the kernel away.
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>>110297454
they activate one of the clones they made of him in secret
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So what happens when Ubuntu dies of bloat in 10 years?
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>>110297242
>What's wrong with Mint compared to Fedora?

Here are the knowledge requirements for choosing certain distros as your first ever distro:

>Mint = I know how to open a browser and can navigate my way to facebook.com, youtube.com and maybe reddit.com.

>Debian/Fedora = I know how to use software that isn't an internet browser.

>Arch = I AM WINDOR, THY RULER OF THE WINDOWS POWERSHELL. TAKE ME TO THIS "LINUX TERMINAL" YOU SPEAK OF, SO I MAY ASSIMILATE IT'S KNOWLEDGE.
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>>110297547
Its corpse will be used to continue to run the distros based on Ubuntu that everyone else actually uses.
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>>110297242
cinnamon suffers from the disease that is called having a minor desktop environment which results in having a subpar user experience for anyone that isn't grandma
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>>110297548
Don't they all require extra software after the installation? I mean no installer out there reads minds.
>>110297555
>distros based on Ubuntu
If you are talking about Mint, it isn't "based on" Ubuntu, it uses Ubuntu's packages directly. No Ubuntu = no Mint. (except the "Debian edition")
>>110297561
Right.
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>>110297547
All Ubuntu distros will just change over to being Debian Testing based.
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>>110297454
Greg Kroah-Hartman (officially) takes over.
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>>110297565
>Don't they all require extra software after the installation?
Yes. That's usually present somewhere in that distro's repos. Are you talking about software that would be present on the system immediately after installation? In that case, a distro's developers have to consider who their target audience is and supply default software accordingly. For example, Debian knows that their target audience isn't your grandma. That's why Synaptic isn't included in a default installation and users are required to use apt on the command-line. They can install Synaptic later on if they so choose to.

>No Ubuntu = no Mint. (except the "Debian edition")
Correct. That's actually the whole reason for LMDE's existence (Linux Mint Debian Edition). The Mint devs started to wonder:
>Hey, so uhhh...what happens if Ubuntu just sorta..you know...dies?
So they birthed LMDE. But personally, I think they should pick a lane. Splitting their efforts into two different distros just makes both distros have less quality than they otherwise could have. Either end support for Mint and make LMDE the new Mint; or end support for LMDE. Then they can focus all their effort into one distro.
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>>110297664
>I think they should pick a lane
I think lately Clem has been putting more effort into LMDE than base Mint. I wouldn't be surprised if in some years they start offering LMDE as their main distro. And Ubuntu will serve just a backup for people who need the ubuntu kernel.
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>>110296722
adopted by whom?
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>>110297567
canonical maintains core parts of debian. if canonical dies, debian has a problem.
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>>110297664
>For example, Debian knows that their target audience isn't your grandma. That's why Synaptic isn't included in a default installation and users are required to use apt on the command-line.
wrong.
debian's default desktop environment is gnome and includes gnome software. no command-line is required.
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>>110297664
>Correct. That's actually the whole reason for LMDE's existence (Linux Mint Debian Edition). The Mint devs started to wonder:
the actual reason was that canonical's lawyer didn't like mint stealing ubuntu's binary packages. in the end mint paid for a license because mint is too retarded to build from source.
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>>110297719
Nothing stopping Clem from putting the Ubuntu kernel on LMDE.
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>>110297548
>Mint
Ubuntu is the normie distro. Mint is deprecated.
>I AM WINDOR
kek
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kde feels more windows like than cinnamon but people still recommend the latter for windows refugees
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>>110298336
Winfugees need a widely supported, intuitive distro. That's Ubuntu with Ubuntu Pro.
What is KDE's flagship distro? Let's take a look at its recommended distros:
https://kde.org/distributions/
>Kubuntu
Inferior installer. Not polished at all. Not the mainline Ubuntu experience.
>openSUSE
No codecs. Not widely supported. YaST deprecated. Needs Linux experience to use properly.
>KDE neon
Same problems at Kubuntu. Basically a test distro for KDE devs and will probably die once KDE Linux picks up steam.
>Fedora KDE
The closest it gets. No codecs by default. Repo management knowledge required (RPM Fusion, COPR, Terra) to use properly. Needs a major upgrade every 6 months.
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>>110298336
Also, KDE is a constant bugfest rollercoaster with no LTS. A minor release happens and things break. KDE patches it up, and then it happens again. And again. And does the distro even keep up to date with the patches?
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>>110285810
Thanks anon I've been trying out Mint with Xfce and it's sooo much better, this is exactly what I wanted.
I still want to strip it down even more so that'll be something to tinker with over the weekend
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Hyprland vs KDE for Arch?
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>>110297108
OpenRC does have documentation, that's not the point of LFS though which is to collect all of that and put it in a single book.

You need more than just OpenRC or Systemd for an operating system.
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>>110298819
If you have to ask: KDE.
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>>110298819
KDE
Peak comfy rn with dynamic themes (light mode during the daytime and dark mode during nighttime)
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>>110298897
>>110298903
I figured as much. KDE is still very good for me, I was just curious if Hyprland offered any advantages over it. I could've used AI to ask, but I'd rather hear from fellow anons like a regular person.
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>pacman -Syu
>reboot
>stuck in 1024x768
>reboot again
>black screen
>Alt-F1
>log into console
>startx
>can't connect to X server
>says there's no screen
Artix feels like running Linux in 1999. They are forcing me back to Ubuntu.
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Well this is obnoxious. Does Reddit even have an app for Linux?
It's not in Flathub. No wonder this shit is bludgeoning users and their stock price is in freefall.
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>>110299022
There's barely any Reddit frontends anymore because of the API lock-off shit that happened years ago. Only ones that get a special exemption by being "accessibility apps" like Redreader on Android phones are the ones that get to keep existing.
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>>110298985
Xorg moment
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>>110298985
>Mooom CANCEL MY MEETINGS
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Is getting a VM single GPU passthrough to work still an absolute mindfuck?
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brothers will you forgive me? I'm still on Windows 10, I tried Ubuntu and didn't liked it that much

but once I will build my next PC, I'm moving on to Linux for good
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>>110299306
Make sure you use Arch like a normal person when you do
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>>110299322
https://youtu.be/mfv0V1SxbNA

man himself uses Fedora so
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>>110281999
When a new version of Debian has just been released, it'll have newer packages than Ubuntu, but not for long I guess. Debian 13 came out in August 2025 but the next (non-LTS) Ubuntu version was only a couple of months later in October 2025. So I think most of the time Ubuntu is going to have slightly newer packages than Debian.
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>>110299351
But Greg Kroah Hartman the second man himself and likely successor to Linus I uses Arch so…
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>>110297454
When Linus dies, and maybe if the Kernel's quality goes to irreconcilable shit because of it, someone will fork it, or some other fork of the Kernel will become more popular, like the Linux-libre kernel.
Shit, maybe Hurd is usable by then (probably not)
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>>110297454
There's a process. They made a document for this:
https://www.theregister.com/software/2026/01/27/linux-kernel-gets-continuity-plan-for-post-linus-era/4679075
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>>110297092
Saar...
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I just installed CachyOs.
Any cool shit to install for a nice UI customization?
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>>110299565
>no australia
Meme map discarded.
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>>110300606
yes
literally all DEs/WMs in the linux ecosystem are in your fingertips, enjoy
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>>110299094
Artix QA failure.
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>>110300606
That depends. How familiar are you with Linux? Have you only ever used a full desktop environment before? Or have you tried out standalone window managers?

Even if you've only used full DE's before, you could try out some standalone window managers. I'd recommend starting with stacking/floating window managers. You can move on to tiling window managers later.

>Openbox
>Fluxbox
>Fvwm
>Jwm
>Icewm

Those are all stacking window managers that are pretty nice to use. Try them out and see what you think. Keep in mind that openbox doesn't have a panel by default. In fact, by default, all it gives you is a right-click menu. This actually gives you a pretty good base to work with though. You can add your own panel and make it so that it always launches that panel after you log in.

Fvwm is also really comfy. It comes with a panel by default, but it's on the right-hand side of the screen instead of at the bottom. You can modify this panel really easily actually, but it's been a while since I last used fvwm so I can't remember how. You can go on the fvwm website and it explains how to do that on there. You can also modify the right-click menu so that different applications appear in there, making them quicker to access.

Hope that gives you some ideas, anyway. Happy hacking, anon.
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OpenWRT, is it safe? By safe i mean can i trust whoever that maintains it like i trust the team that maintains my packages and linux distro? Is it in good hands, a good team?
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>>110301193
I don't know. Can you trust these people?
https://github.com/orgs/openwrt/people

You tell me. Or better yet look at the code. It's all open source you don't have to take anyone's word for it. You can build your own snapshots and packages.
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What do you guys do in the rare scenario where you must install some software that is not available for Linux? I'm not talking about games. Something that is work/government/business related. I guess mobile can cover a lot of these cases but still.
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>>110301291
wine. if that doesn't work, qemu.
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>>110301193
It's about as safe as any other distro I suppose.

Openwrt is basically just the linux kernel with a minimalist configuration + drivers for your specific hardware + busybox + muslc. It also has a webUI but it can be left out if you want to just use ssh to configure it. If there were anything compromised it would likely come from a supply chain attack possibly from an optional package.
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>>110301291
Windows 11 installed on a separate NVMe drive. I really if ever use it but it's there should I ever need it.
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>>110299514
if you allow ubuntu interim releases, you also have to allow debian testing/sid. debian testing is of better quality than ubuntu interim releases and doesn't do experiments.
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>>110301291
If it only reliably works on windows then do what you gotta do I suppose. Run a virtual machine or keep a spare machine running windows
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>>110301628
>and doesn't do experiments.
What you're actually saying is Debian doesn't innovate. It's good to try new things sometimes and not all of Ubuntu's experiments are a bad idea, for example their support for x86_64-v3 packages is a good development.
Saying this as someone who themselves uses Debian and Fedora on their servers and prefers them by the way. I don't use Ubuntu but at least they're trying things. That's something Canonical has lacked in the past.
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>>110279437
Why does the fedora installer allocate a 2.5GB ext4 /boot partition? Instead of just leaving /boot as part of the btrfs / partition since GRUB can read btrfs, or making a larger 1-2GB efi partition for systemd-boot.
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>>110299514
>non-LTS
That's a whole different point but worth pointing out that Ubuntu has a non-LTS version. I've seen people say Ubuntu-LTS or Debian are more up to date than the other as if that's a reason to install one over the other long term or a reason one sucks over the other. It happens more often when one just released a new version... like duh.
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>>110301628
>debian testing is of better quality than ubuntu interim releases
No fast track for security. Debian sucks and so does Ubuntu. You'd have to be as ignorant as this mf to engage with .deb anything.
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firefox?
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Don't use any type of Debian other than stable
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>>110303078
>>110303078
>No fast track for security.
Testing receives the same updates as Unstable but they have to be reviewed by devs first and sometimes they get held up during the feature freeze prior to a new major release.

https://www.debian.org/security/faq#testing

If you use Testing or Unstable you're supposed to be familiar with the Debian development process and keep up with security issues tracker.
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>>110303154
Yes, they sit on security updates for at least two weeks vs stable. That's what "no fast track" means. You complete retard.
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>>110301667
dropping older arches is the opposite of being innovative. it's cost-cutting.
rhel shops switched debian because amd64v3 became the baseline for rhel 10.
https://www.infoq.com/news/2026/09/cern-debian-infra/
>CERN Renounces RHEL in Favor of Debian for its Accelerator Controls Infrastructure
>Sep 07, 2026
>The primary technical trigger was Red Hat's progressive tightening of compiler microarchitecture baselines. RHEL 9 mandated x86-64-v2, requiring instruction sets like SSE4.2 and POPCNT, while RHEL 10 targets x86-64-v3. CERN's accelerator infrastructure manages more than 2,200 specialised front-end computers and 17,000 embedded devices, including legacy Core 2-era and custom industrial boards, engineered for 10- to 15-year lifecycles aligned with long-term accelerator shutdown windows. Upstream microarchitecture mandates threatened to abruptly obsolete thousands of functional, purpose-built control nodes.
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>>110303551
They didn't drop anything though. They just made an extra repo that builds for modern hardware released in the past decade. They still have generic binaries that run your 20 or 30 year old hardware.
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>>110303561
wrong

https://documentation.ubuntu.com/release-notes/26.04/summary-for-lts-users/#cloud
>On all cloud providers, AMD64 based images are now built with AMD64v3 by default. This effort begins with 26.04 Resolute Racoon images and will continue with future releases.
>Amazon Web Services (AWS)
>This transition impacts several Previous Generation Instance families. While AWS maintains these for legacy optimizations, they do not meet the microarchitecture requirements for Resolute Raccoon.
>The following instance families are no longer supported starting with version 26.04:
>General Purpose: M1, M2, M3, M4
>Compute Optimized: C1, C3, C4
>Memory Optimized: R3, R4
>Storage/Accelerated: I2, G3, P2, P3, P3dn
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>>110303578
That's just the default images because they can't bothered building server images for 20-30+ year old hardware anymore.

Upgrades from older installs will still work.
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>>110303591
Keep in mind that most server hardware is refreshed constantly. RHEL was able to do this without much issue (apart from CERN).

There are very few companies running servers on 20-30+ year old hardware still.
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>>110279437
Which distro is safe to use, is stable, and has no AI?
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>>110304267
Linus is vibecodding the kernel now so every distro has AI
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>>110304366
This is horrible news if true. Source?
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>>110304267
fedora kde
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>>110304267
Red Star OS
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>>110299707
sloppy slex with cute AIgen boys if you know what I mean
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>>110301291
I needed Windows for a class.
>install a second SSD
>get W11 Pro OEM from Groupon for like $12
>sudo update-grub
>finish the class
>wipe and remove the drive
>sudo update-grub
W11 never messed with my bootloader.
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>>110304604
this anon has literally been posting about this for the past like 3 threads, he's schizophrenic.
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>>110306198
It's true though
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>>110306198
In the year of our Lord 2026 this translates to he's right.
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>>110305634
>>110301291
Windows messing with a bootloader is an old meme, so is using a separate physical drive. It's from the BIOS booting days when you had a per-drive bootloader code.
>>110303103
Isn't that obvious?
>>110301908
idk, maybe Fedora's bootloader just so somehow can fill up all that space.
>or making a larger 1-2GB efi partition for systemd-boot
/boot and EFI system partition (/efi) are two different things. EFI system partition serves the firmware and /boot serves the Linux loader. And I do know many people here lump these two concepts together and just use the EFI system partition for both. But just saying: /boot has older roots.
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>Malware found disguised as 3rd party Plasma Extension
It's over
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>>110306771
kde really needs to get their shit together and just implement more basic customization stuff instead of relying on 3rd party extensions. there is really no reason for kde to not have a native way to apply blur to all windows without the use of 3rd party stuff
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>>110306771
suckless won
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>>110306673
>Isn't that obvious?
A lot of people use testing and even sid
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>>110306771
never used those. trannies btfo'd.
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>>110303103
Unstable is pretty comfy for a daily driver.
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>>110306673
>/boot and EFI system partition (/efi) are two different things.
I don't know why you feel compelled to say this when there's clearly no confusion in what im saying. AFAIK systemd-boot has no support for any filesystem other than vfat, hfs(for macs) and maybe exfat/ntfs. It also cant load files from other partitions like GRUB can unless that's change.
Also efi does not have to be on /efi , it technically can be wherever you want it to be while /boot is always /boot.
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>updated all four of my Ubuntu machines
>only two managed to boot afterwards
welp, I know what I am doing today
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My latest version of Linux just blackscreens when I start from grub menu. If I go to advanced options and load a lower version (I think I loaded 146 instead of 149) it works. Any ideas what's going on? I can load the recovery mode and it'll tell me why it's not working most likely.
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>>110308253
>run unattended updates for two years now
>never had this happen
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>>110308253
>>110308266
This probably wouldn't happen if you were using Debian stable.
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>>110307465
What's the point of using unstable when you could just use arch?
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>>110308266
Driver/firmware failure?
Are you able to set up ssh on it and remote into it from another PC?
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>>110308253
Wait... I'm >>110308266

So it might be an Ubuntu problem if you're having a problem too. Maybe if it's driver/firmware like >>110308393 says we can compare hardware and see if we have any in common. Can you tell me more about your hardware? I have an Intel i7 CPU, Nvidia 2080 ti GPU, Z390-A PRO (MS-7B98) motherboard. Bios is Vendor: American Megatrends Inc. Version: 1.80 from 2019.


>>110308393
I don't have another computer to test it from :( but loading an older version is letting me load up so I think it's because I clicked accept update last time I used Linux. I've been mostly on my Windows boot lately for class (and games), Linux is just for my software development.

>>110308352
Ubuntu is pretty much the most common backend server (or at least it was when I started backend deving) so I've always used it, to make sure when I dev backends it would run on Ubuntu. This mindset is probably pretty outdated now but I've been using Ubuntu for 16 years now and don't feel like switching.
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I think Ubuntu with linux 6.8.0-149 is just broken. I found a Dutch guy who couldn't load in with the same kernel and OS as me. But 6.8.0-146 works fine.

https://askubuntu.com/questions/1570850/booting-from-liveusb-26-04-hangs-on-purple-screen-with-the-4-dots
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>>110308468
How the fuck do you only have one computer in current year?
Can you get an app on your phone that will let you use ssh like termux?
Sounds more likely that nvidia broke something on update though.
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>>110308528
>Snapchat
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>>110308535
Ye I snapped it to my ubuntu user friend and asked him if he was having problems then saved the photo. Snapchat autocompresses pictures too so I prefer it over camera app.
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>>110308588
>Ye
stopped reading there
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>>110308531
You sure? The Dutch guy seems to be using intel graphics. I have a laptop actually I forgot about that lmao
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>>110308594
>stopped reading
Bet you did nigger boy
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why are boobtu users so hostile
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>>110308627
I forgot most 4chan users don't talk to girls and wouldn't need Snapchat to exchange nudes with them. My mistake virgin.
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>>110308647
You are on 4chan.org sir
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>>110308661
Why I said most.
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>>110308647
girls are gross
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>>110308528
You shouldn't need to manually manage different kernel versions, just use whichever default kernel used by your version of Ubuntu
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>>110308787
The default isn't booting up.
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The real question is, out of all the options, why are you using Ubuntu?
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>>110309391
>>110308468
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>>110308627
friendly thread
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>>110309443
Fair. Can't you work on your software development using the same tools on another distro and then transfer your projects to ubuntu server after the fact?

Btw, are you using ubuntu-lts?
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>>110309472
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>>110309503
Yay, a new tab - I'll be here until purged though.



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