Anyone here use elementary OS? It was too buggy last time I tried it.

>>110309542
I tossed it into Boxes about a week ago, and they kinda pissed me off right out of the gate with the way they want you to setup your password; I got it updated and whatnot, played around with it for about an hour or two, but I was still livid from setting up a user account and ended up nuking that particular VM.

>>110309561
>quit because setting up a user account was annoying
That is the stupidest excuse I ever heard.

Finally found out about the kwin script that makes it remember window position, they really should have integrated something like this ages ago.

new critical rce dropped for apache's mod_http2: https://httpd.apache.org/security/vulnerabilities_24.html#CVE-2026-119618

RHEL10 fixed it on Nov 11: https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2026:98978
Debian 13 fixed it on Nov 12: https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/DSA-6620-1
SLES 16 didn't fix it yet: https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=CVE-2026-119618
Ubuntu 26.04 didn't fix it yet: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apache2/+bug/2174073

>>110311637
Fedora 44 wrongly marked it low severity and it's stuck in testing: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2026-fb0f78fed6

>>110311637
sigh debian keeps winning

>>110311762
Fedora packages mod_http2 separately (same as RHEL) and marked it urgent, not low. still in testing tho:
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2026-2105db9ca3

>>110311880
yeah, rhel only was faster because they got a heads-up on nov 5: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2567318
meanwhile debian's security team only learned about it on nov 11: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1153732

>>110311563
The script is a workaround. There is native support for session resumption in KWin via Wayland. Applications just have to implement it to.

>>110312383
I don't care about session resumption, I just want windows that I close to open in the same spot when I reopen them.

>>110311762
>>110311637
It's low severity because who the fuck is using Apache? Nginx is way better.

>>110312387
That's what the session resumption stuff does.
https://wayland.app/protocols/xx-session-management-v1

I get what you're saying; you don't care how it's done you just want it done but there is a proper mechanism to do so. Sometimes you don't want size and position remembered that's why it's optional. It could be awkward for some popup or window to launch and be the wrong position.

>>110312394
Isn't caddy supposed to be better?

>>110312462
If you like that. It has neat features like automatic LetsEncrypt, etc. I still prefer Nginx though.

>>110312424
My mistake then, I thought it governed login session restoration. Still like you said I want something that actually works consistently. It's like how tray icons have a way to indicate when they're relevant and when they're not, but I never use that feature and just hide all of them because almost no apps properly implement it and just always show up as relevant

>>110308302
it was a major version update (24.04 LTS -> 26.04 LTS). after many hours I managed to save one machine - turns out update process didn't install one package and it broke boot. I don't know how to fix the other one, because it was a major fuckup (system crash during update). I already gave up and will be moving /home after a fresh reinstallation.
>>110308468
I don't want to investigate it any further, but the machine I weren't able to save was Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 13.

KDE plasma removing X11 support. Wayland still manages to feel worse with mouse input lag, plus all the other shit that's broken (PTT as an example). I'm on Fedora. What is left with x11 support that's not terrible, xfce? I'm tired of reinstalling my OS. Fucking hell.

>>110312476
>It has neat features like automatic LetsEncrypt
every web server can do this now. nginx since last year.

https://letsencrypt.org/2025/09/11/native-acme-for-nginx
>In directly supporting ACME, NGINX joins other web servers like Traefik, Caddy and Apache httpd that can directly take advantage of certificates from Let’s Encrypt and other ACME Certificate Authorities.

>>110312936
Oh neat. I'll have to look into that it could simplify things a lot for my existing setup.

>>110312934
Mint Cinnamon.

>>110312462
I switched to Caddy because it's a single binary and was simpler to set up, but there's probably some major fuck-you lying in wait that'll bite me in the ass eventually. For now it's fine

>>110313304
sounds insane to go outside your distro's packages for something as essential as a web server. who's handling your updates, systemd unit files, selinux policies, ...?

>>110312936
Last year is pretty recent for web servers nonny. I think Apache had that back around RHEL 8.

>>110313172
aren't they moving to Wayland too?

>>110313542
rhel 10 still doesn't package caddy. neither does sles 16 nor ubuntu 26.04 (universe repo isn't supported by canonical).
only debian packages caddy but with a major security disclaimer:
https://www.debian.org/releases/trixie/release-notes/issues.en.html#go-and-rust-based-packages
>The Debian infrastructure currently has problems with rebuilding packages of types that systematically use static linking. With the growth of the Go and Rust ecosystems it means that these packages will be covered by limited security support until the infrastructure is improved to deal with them maintainably.
so i wouldn't recommend caddy.

>>110313987
Debian having problems updating static binaries will never not be funny to me. All they have to do is rebuild the package and bump it then users pull it down and restart the service as usual.

>>110313172
I've used Mint before and liked it, first distro. My only issue with it was how outdated certain packages were + the kernel. I remember this being an issue as I had newer hardware at the time and it was a pain in the ass.

>>110309472
>Use KDE
>Second monitor will sleep and then not turn on
>wtf
>Wayland has no real way of addressing a singular monitor on wake-up nor a way of identifying that particular display
>So the monitor goes to sleep and then never checks if its addressed again
>OSD blanks itself too so there's no way to change this after it happens, your display is fucked
>XFCE doesn't have this problem
Thanks but I'm still sticking with X11

>>110313987
I meant built-in ACME client not your personal Go project.

>>110314284
quite literally works on my machine

>>110314371
That's nice, I'm still sticking with X11 until it supports my hardware though since I don't own your machine, and judging by your attitude, I wouldn't want it anyway.

>>110314226
wrong, gentoo went into detail why go and rust ecosystems are bad for distros

https://blogs.gentoo.org/mgorny/2021/02/19/the-modern-packagers-security-nightmare/
>Static linking, dependency pinning and bundling are three bad practices that have serious impact on the time and effort needed to eliminate vulnerabilities from production systems. They can make the difference between being able to replace a vulnerable library within a few minutes and having to spend a lot of effort and time in locating multiple copies of the vulnerable library, patching and rebuilding all the software including them.
>The major Linux distributions had policies against these practices for a very long time, and have been putting a lot of effort into eliminating them. Nevertheless, it feels more and more like Sisyphean task. While we have been able to successfully resolve these problems in many packages, whole new ecosystems were built on top of these bad practices — and it does not seem that upstreams care about fixing them at all.
>New programming languages such as Go and Rust rely entirely on static linking, and there’s nothing we can do about it. Instead of packaging the dependencies and having programs use the newest versions, we just fetch the versions pinned by upstream and make big blobs out of it. And while upstreams brag how they magically resolved all security issues you could ever think of (entirely ignoring other classes of security issues than memory-related), we just hope that we won’t suddenly be caught with our pants down when a common pinned dependency of many packages turns out to be vulnerable.

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>>110314542
Why is Gentoo always so based !?

I've been thinking about giving Debian (Sid) a try, how does it compare to Fedora when it comes to package updates and the like? What about post-install annoyances (Fedora has a bunch of humiliation rituals like ffmpeg-free, nividia stuff, etc)

>>110315224
Why not arch? I don't think Debian Sid is actually meant for regular use

what happens to the development of nvidia linux drivers now that jensen is gone?

>>110315274
The whole company is going to get JEETed at this point, you should be more concerned about cost-cutting making drivers that kernel panic every single OS

Does anyone here actually run Omarchy or is it a meme

>>110314542
It only takes a few minutes to rebuild dozens of rust things. Though I did buy a threadripper for compiling stuff.

>spend a lot of effort and time in locating multiple copies of the vulnerable library
They're in machine-readable formats, this can and has been automated.

>>110315224
I used for months a while back, and I do not recommend. get a proper rolling release distro instead
they're not exaggerating about "sid breaking your toys", it does break, particularly at repo level (packages becoming impossible to install, broken dependencies and stuff). also I remember new versions of software taking over a week to land, if not more, which kinda defeats the purpose of sid over, say, debian-testing or fedora

>>110316522
That sucks, thanks for sharing your experience, and from the way you said that means debian-testing would be an experience closer to Fedora then?

>>110316818
it would, both are a couple of weeks behind something like arch, but it's not going to break upstream like sid does. and unlike fedora, you don't have to update to newer versions manually, it's a continuous thing

what does the free software foundation even do. i like the GPL and whatnot but seriously what are they doing all day?

>>110316818
fedora is a stable distro like debian stable. no major software updates within a stable release. the difference only is that fedora cuts a new fedora release every 6 months compared to debian stable's 24 months.
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Updates_Policy/#Stable_Releases
>Releases of the Fedora distribution are like releases of the individual packages that compose it. A major version number reflects a more-or-less stable set of features and functionality. As a result, we should avoid major updates of packages within a stable release. Updates should aim to fix bugs, and not introduce features, particularly when those features would materially affect the user or developer experience. The update rate for any given release should drop off over time, approaching zero near release end-of-life; since updates are primarily bugfixes, fewer and fewer should be needed over time.

in contrast, debian testing/sid is rolling.

>>110317321
collect money
hire lawyers
while bloviating in a digital book website they own how theyre the chosen

>>110317321
They made a printer driver once

>>110317321
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Software_Foundation
>From its founding until the mid-1990s, FSF's funds were mostly used to employ software developers to write free software for the GNU Project[13]

NFS vs SMB for Linux Server to Linux Desktop network storage?

>>110317515
iscsi

>>110313608
The devs said the want wayland to be fully supported by next release. But knowing clem that doesn't mean x11 is gonna go away or anything. I'm pretty confident x11 is still gonna be the default for Cinnamon even when wayland goes fully approved.

>>110317515
SMB/CIFS for home networks every time. It's faster to set up with secure login and there's no down side for single server.

>>110318005
>>110317515
idk maybe I'm retarded but setting up Samba shares is way more harder than NFS. There's billions of stuff to configure and I tend to forget the password thing which involved firing up a command or whatever.
>>110317404
>>110316818
Aren't all point releases "stable" and all rolling releases "unstable"?

RHEL 10.3 dropped
https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/introducing-red-hat-enterprise-linux-103-and-99
>November 11, 2026
>Today, we are proud to announce the availability of Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) 10.3 and RHEL 9.9. Today’s launch is about reinforcing the platform’s foundation to meet the evolving security, operational, and AI-driven demands of the modern enterprise.
>Sealed images for image mode
>MCP Server for Red Hat Enterprise Linux: AI-assisted management, ready for production
>Self-managed command-line assistant capabilities for regulated and disconnected environments (Developer Preview)
>We are shipping updated toolsets, including GCC 16, LLVM 22, and Go 1.27, which provide faster build times and highly optimized binaries. Developers can now use the modern features in .NET 11, Node.js 26 (LTS), and PHP 8.4 to significantly improve both performance and code capability. [...] update to Rust 1.97 [...]

>>110318291
>Aren't all point releases "stable" and all rolling releases "unstable"?
all? no, not every software follows semver. a point release could be a new major release. f.ex. linux kernels.

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im getting the urge to distro hop again
please tell me that systemd isn't that bad and that there's no real reason for me to switch from arch to artix or void

>>110318291
>idk maybe I'm retarded but setting up Samba shares is way more harder than NFS. There's billions of stuff to configure and I tend to forget the password thing which involved firing up a command or whatever.
NFS is easy as long as you don't care about it being unencrypted / open access. Authentication is an absolute pain in the balls. For samba basic file shares are only a few lines in smb.conf

[music]
        comment = Music
        path = /smb/music
        valid users = anon
        writable = no

And you have secure password authenticated file sharing with much better performance than sshfs.

>>110315224
Ran Sid for 5 months before moving to Fedora for SELinux. It's quite comfy. It actually updates Firefox *faster* than Fedora. Some packages do lag, e.g. rclone. GNOME trickles in over time instead of an atomic update like on Fedora.
One thing Fedora does better is RPM transaction management. This doesn't exist on DPKG-based systems. The other thing is how Debian handles weak dependencies - they tend to hang around instead of getting ripped out. Apparently there are ways around this but I just ended up doing a dpkg --get-selections so I can rollback.
There are basically no humiliation rituals regarding codecs - everything is built-in as Debian splits packages up into main/contrib/non-free components of the repo. The only thing is NVIDIA - last I checked NVIDIA packages are woefully out of date even on Sid, but you can use the official NVIDIA repo.
dpkg-divert is very cool, as is apt pinning.
It has more desktop-relevant packages than Fedora but less than Arch, but that is because Debian Policy is very strict on what goes in. Which makes it a more predicable and standardised system.
All in all, a comfy distro.

>>110314284
>>110314406
I bitched about this a couple days after the switchover. KDE with gayland has been nothing but fucking buggy so I'm on Xfce until I get can SonicDE installed.

>>110315224
>humiliation rituals
You're supposed to install apt-listbugs and apt-list changes and then review bugs/changelogs (this happens in-line during the apt get update operation). You're also supposed to know how to recover your system, e.g. boot from USB and chroot to manually repair. I never had to do this, but yeah.

>>110319343
>Ran Sid for 5 months before moving to Fedora for SELinux
debian has selinux. what were you missing?

>>110319343
>has more desktop-relevant packages than Fedora but less than Arch
counting aur as packages is disingenuous.
for actual supported packages arch is a distant third.
debian: 41k
fedora: 23k
arch: 12k
https://repology.org/repositories/statistics/total

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>try to play new game
>can't because on linoox

lmao this shit is pathetic, going back to windows.

>b-b-but its slop its bad its muh "insert 1000x excuse"

This is exactly the reason why no one wants to use linux. Nothing just works.

>>110319923
should have made your research before switching :-)

>>110309472
wait kde uses gayland now?

>>110319923
>playing anything with easy anti-slop
stay there

>>110319923
Linux will always have a reputation of being synonymous with buggy broken slop until it fixes stuff like this.

Linux will never be a real OS because even a multi billion dollar company like valve cant even fix multiplayer, how will they EVER convince anyone to be a steam machine if it cant play games with the most common anticheat.

>>110319939
KDE's had a Wayland session for ages now with it becoming the default this year and the X11 session basically being retired.

>>110319949
So you admit valve failed in their mission to make linux mainstream and all their products are in turn a failure, because it can never be a replacement for a windows handheld/PC.

Saying that means you admit that

>>110319815
For example Podman on Fedora has MCS isolation between containers. But I generally didn't feel like wasting time implementing/validating on Debian what Fedora already does out of the box.
>>110319889
I'm not counting AUR or talking about raw size. I use repology too. I check it for what distro natively packages packages I'm interested. Often Arch Extras repo has things that Fedora and Debian don't, e.g. Ghostty.

>>110319958
https://onlineservices.epicgames.com/news/introducing-easy-anti-cheat-linux-v2

>>110319995
And yet its not here.

Why didnt valve tell tarkov devs to fuck off and make linux work with their game when they asked to be listed on the steam store? In fact why dont they do that for all games requiring anticheat. Theyll go to epic, and get zero players.

Fuck I don't want to go back to Linux
Windows was working perfectly until the audio started getting fucked

>>110314542
Gentoo actually handles this fine, ironically. Just

emerge @go-module-rebuild

>>110320530
Correction:
It's

emerge @golang-rebuild

>>110320530
>>110320539
You may also want to add

--exclude dev-lang/go

it seems I had some go module forcing a downgrade of the go compiler but that's the fault of that particular package.

>>110320530
>>110320539
>>110320561
Also, because they have manifests that track everything in SRC_URI then tracking down where the dependencies that need patching are isn't too difficult either. Yeah, it could be better but it's not like the sky is falling.

I respect Mgorny and the work he does for Gentoo greatly but think he's overselling just how bad it is. If it is bad it is only because the tooling is bad.

>>110320576
you don't understand what mgorny said. @golang-rebuild does not update any pinned dependencies. you only used another compiler.

>>110320639
I understand what he's saying. He's speaking from a packagers perspective. For me as a user that's your problem not mine.

As a user I only have to worry about re-building the affected packages.

The problem is real but it's a tooling problem. We have all of these manifests that track the dependencies, it really shouldn't be too hard to automate bumping v1.X to v1.Y

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>>110320652
>it really shouldn't be too hard to automate bumping v1.X to v1.Y
go does minimal version selection. go will never select a newer minor version for no reason.
https://go.dev/ref/mod#minimal-version-selection

KDE nagadashi

>>110319962
>>110319958
Your game requiring rapeware isn't Linux's fault you drooling wintards

>>110320791
Yes, that's why you need to patch things to require that newer version. Or you instead vendor the module somehow and patch that instead.

Everything is solveable it just requires better tooling to work with.

>>110313987
Why does Debian have a problem with Go-based packages? Just pull the latest source and run `go build`, easy peasy
>(universe repo isn't supported by canonical)
I think it is if you use Ubuntu Pro which is free on up to 5 PCs

>>110309472
what distro would these specimens use, technolo/g/ically speaking ofc? >>>/r9k/85949244

>>110312424
>protocol
How about just letting programs choose where to show up on the screen?
No, it's not a security issue.

>>110322324
That's what the zones protocol is for:
https://wayland.app/protocols/xx-zones-v1

Completely unrelated to remembering window positions though.

>>110322363
How are these two different things to you? If a program knows where it is on screen, it can then place itself back there later. It's up to the program developer to do this.
>just ask the kioskware to do it
retarded solution to a nonexistent problem

>>110322422
Remembering window position is not the same as needing to explicitly position yourself at specific window co-ordinated. One requires considerably more effort than the other (hint: the one that uses a session object concept and lets the compositor take care of it all is considerably easier to work with)

Question, do you guys know if there is a decente Finite Element Analysis FOSS in Linux? I'm trying to migrate my processes from Windows so it has been a slow but steady progress, just hit a roadblock on this one.

>>110322508
Why not just use FreeCAD?

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With how well supported Mac is now even for games, wouldnt it make sense to use mac versions of games on Lutris isntead of windows version? Given how much more similar linux is to unix-based mac?

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>>110323361
Very poorly. No. The difficult parts of Mac compatibility are still totally different.

It would be a little simpler if Mac were the dominant platform that was worth copying, but it's not.

How come nobody talks about EndeavourOS anymore?

>>110323641
>How come nobody talks about EndeavourOS anymore?
The idiots that were shilling it hopped to a different distro

What does jensen being raped mean for nvidia on linux?

>>110323361
It's not well supported, many games on mac run through translation layers too

>>110323915
Old hardware will still have bad support. New management may take a less toxic view of open source, but it'll be minimum 5 years before they catch up to AMD even if they do a hard turn right now.

>>110323361
Mac doesn't have OpenGL or Vulkan anymore so you'd need to map Metal -> Vulkan.

People are trying but it's probably a long way off usable:
https://www.phoronix.com/news/Darling-Using-AI-macOS-Linux

Mac's don't get any games that Windows doesn't anyway and there'd be translation layers either way. I see this as potentially being useful as another avenue to run Adobe crap or Apple's own suite of applications. Probably completely useless for gaming.

>>110324050
Depend who they put in charge. Jensen was an engineer first and foremost and they were slowly starting to embrace more open source, at least for the newer hardware (old hardware will always be stuck in a shit place and that's likely never to get fixed).

If they don't promote someone from engineering then they could go in the opposite direction ("NVIDIA IP i NVIDIA's". "Why would we ever open source anything?").

Should a linux noob do the mint pitstop or can they go straight to cachy?

>>110324869
Depends on how comfortable you are with having to learn.

>>110324869
If you're going to run Arch, just run arch, imo. If you want to try Mint, go for it, and you'll kinda get a feel for apt (the package manager than debian-based operating systems use) I have feeling that you'll end up on Fedora though. Mint packages are kinda dated, arch packages are rolling release, so they can break, and fedora is a nice middle ground where your software isn't out of date but not untested.

>>110324962
I'm willing to learn, but I'd rather not have to tinker everytime I boot.
>>110324967
I've been thinking about Fedora as well. I mostly started looking at Cachy because I game, how's gayming on Fedora?

>>110324869
both distros do basically the same thing but cachy has gay ming optimizations while mint operates more closely to how windows does

>>110324764
>and they were slowly starting to embrace more open source
No they weren't. They put out an open source kernel shim that got rejected by mainline and called it an 'open source driver'. nVidia has always worked to actively prevent open source support for their high power components.

>>110325007
I can't complain - I mean, you gotta goof around with rpm-fusion, but after you copy/paste some commands into terminal and reboot, you're solid.

I'm just using iGPU (Ryzen 5700G) and some 3200Mhz ddr4 (32GB kit) and I get a lot higher fps than I did on mint when I'm playing Halo 2 remastered or minecraft on fabulous settings. I locked it to 60fps cause I have an old ass TV as my monitor. This gooner game I play once in a while was doing over 140 last time I played it, and that was before setting up my rpm-fusion packages right.

>>110325007
Gaming is basically same on every distro because you mostly outsource wine builds to 3rd parties like Valve or Lutris. Distros can provide an up to date GPU driver stack if your GPU has actual open source drivers (not nVidia). If you outsource your GPU driver too you may as well be using Mint.

>>110325054
That wasn't the reason it got rejected. It got rejected because Nouveau already existed and the kernel people wanted them to work with that instead.
In the long-term Nova (which NVIDIA is contributing bits and pieces to) will replace Nouveau.
The NVIDIA Open Kernel module was a stop gap for distributions, mostly because Secure Boot is an absolute pain in the ass with NVIDIA on Linux but now with an open kernel driver the Linux distributions can easily build and sign that.

>>110325056
Any cool shit you can recommend for/on fedora?
>>110325151
Cood to know

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>>110314542
I love gentoo but they don't get to bitch about this when their entire tooling breaks every other python update.

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Having used Gentoo for almost two years now, I've been encountering some recurring issues that have been making me want to switch for a while now.

There's so many things I love about Gentoo like the flexibility, the fact that I can customize exactly how I want to install packages and what features I want included or excluded from them while also being able to use binary packages, OpenRC and how it works as well as systemd without all the unnecessary bloat, dispatch-conf allowing me to choose which changes I want made to my conf files rather than have them overwritten on every update like with Arch, and a lot more.

Having said that, the package manager Portage is dog slow. And I don't mean compilation, I mean after it's finished compiling and is now installing the package, or with installing binary packages, it takes so fucking long to merge the files into my system, which makes sense given that it's written in fucking Python. Then there's some packages that haven't been updated in a long time, like LibreOffice which has been stuck at 25.2 in the official repos while the latest version is 26.8.

Are there any other Linux distros that offer the upsides I just described without the downsides? Arch, despite being known as the elite hacker distro, feels too inflexible for me, and I haven't got as much experience with the others.

>>110325874
Also this

>>110325917
Just to add to this, I've been planning to install Linux on my macbook which is Intel and has a T2 chip, but it looks like there's only a handful of distros I can install on it: https://wiki.t2linux.org/distributions/overview/

With Gentoo, I can just apply the relevant patches to the kernel directly through the package manager, but I'm not sure how much the other distros allow you to do this.

>>110325917
>I mean after it's finished compiling and is now installing the package, or with installing binary packages, it takes so fucking long to merge the files into my system, which makes sense given that it's written in fucking Python
Python's not the reason that's slow. It's because it's doing a number of pre-installation checks, probably in Bash (if one of them fails then it might die to preventing bricking the system), then it still doesn't just blindly overwrite the files but it checks to see which package owns the file to make sure conflicts can't occur.

All of this takes time.

The Steam client and games are running really weirdly now after the 64-bit update.
Games will just randomly freeze completely for around 30 seconds at a time, and the steam client is way slower to respond. I waited over a minute to open the settings page. games take longer to open. And they're all doing this.
Games outside of steam don't have this issue, and non-steam games running in steam only have an issue loading, not freezing while running.

Anyone have any ideas what's causing it? I'm on an AMD CPU and GPU running Arch with BSPWM

>>110326151
It's a beta client. Go back to the stable client and see if it still happens. I highly doubt they're related though. Maybe it's the new container based Steam runtime they now default to.

>>110325971
Doesn't it do these checks before compiling the package (pkg_pretend, pkg_setup, src_prepare, or something else)? If not, I wish Portage would communicate these things. For especially large packages like gentoo-sources I'm stuck staring at the screen for 10 minutes while it says that it's finished installing, and nothing is happening.

>>110326288
Yeah, that might be it. I set it back to "no betas", did a full system power cycle, and it's still going on.

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Use case for X11?

>>110326401
Circular scrolling

>>110326366
It does a number of checks before installation (pre-inst) and after installation (post-inst) too. Making Portage fast would probably involve eliminating most of them, even binary-package installation will end up running a bunch of Bash code that can be dogshit slow.

Something like qmerge is way quicker because it doesn't do any of that nonsense:
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Q_applets#Install_binary_package_(qmerge)

>>110326387
I think I had the same looping problem as you by the way, not sure if it's common or not. In my case I ended up syncing the steam folder from my laptop to my desktop that fixed it but now it always says there's an update available but then never applies it (may be a cache issue somewhere).

Probably Valve needs to do a little more QA on this one but it's a new change and a big change so not entirely unexpected.

>>110326401
The lightest X11 WM is way lighter than the lightest Wayland WM, so minimalistic graphical environment for one.

>>110326499
Why is Gentoo always so based !?

>>110326779
You're comparing apples to pears. They're not doing the same thing. Despite that Wayland compositors can still be very lightweight (See for example: Cage or Dwl, etc).

It doesn't matter how lightweight it is or isn't unless you're trying to get it to run on your TI calculator.
Even the shittiest dual-core Intel system can run full-blown compositors like KDE Plasma with no issue.

>>110323641
I'd say that CachyOS has taken over as the now dominant "easy Arch" distro. Though Endeavour still exists if you want a vanilla Arch quickly.

I installed a game via lutris (path of exile) and launch it via steam shortcut, but steam overlay doesnt work, neither does taking screenshots, despite steam overlay being enabled. Doesnt matter if the game runs in fullscreen or fullscreen-window
What's the cause of this?

What the fuck is causing a line of pixels on the top and bottom of my screen to flicker on Hyprland? It only happens with VRR enabled, but I need to watch my animu and movies at their target frame rate.

>>110327938
Tried running it with a different proton version?

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It's time to distro jump on one the PCs. Is sysvinit the right choice for an end user on Devuan? Does it really matter?

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>>110328393
I'm a long time Lubuntu user that has currently switched two systems over to LXDE on Debian, which was easy. None of the Lubuntu 24.04 LTS systems will even update anymore. This particular PC is one of two that I dual boot with Windows.

>>110328393
>Does it really matter?
It doesn't matter unless it matters to you.

>>110328681
>None of the Lubuntu 24.04 LTS systems will even update anymore.
how come? lubuntu, an ubuntu lts flavor, gets three years of support. you still have more than half a year of updates.

https://ubuntu.com/project/docs/release-team/ubuntu-releases/#ubuntu-flavors
>Flavors generally support their releases for 3 years in LTS versions (although there can be exceptions).

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>>110328907
Good to know. I'm only trying to ditch systemd because the people I know that spent too much time of slashdot hate it. I also like documentation, which Lubuntu lacks.
>>110329083
I should have specified. I can still use apt, but the LXQt GUI for upgrades is fucked. I've had many other issues with LXQt and Ubuntu; this is just the latest. It asks me to upgrade to Lubuntu 26.04.1 each time I use lubuntu-update. I don't intend to force an update, and, while Lubuntu 26.04.0 is much more stable to me, the Debian 13 with LXQt or LXDE systems I've tried are worlds more stable. Also, the most critical system I'm in charge of if a weather server so lack of stability isn't so much of a problem as a headache.

>>110327998
Yes. here's what happened
>change from default to some other proton version (10, 11, experimental, 12, em-10)
>start game
>says game running
>launcher/downloader doesnt open
>game no longer running
>changing proton layer doesnt work (even back to default)
>exit steam
>launch steam
>works upon launch if default is selected (Default, not manually the version that is the current default)
>doesnt work upon launch if any other version of proton was selected
>works, but only if default proton is selected
>launching from Lutris still works
And thats basically it. I might just bite the bullet and use the Steam native version, even if it has some updating issues.

>>110325917
>Are there any other Linux distros that offer the upsides I just described without the downsides?
I guess Exherbo?
It's made by ex-gentoo maintainers and its package manager, Paludis (apparently Paludis alone is compatible with Gentoo as well, so you can install it here and use it instead of Portage), is written in C++ instead. I don't know if it supports binaries, but the but big hurdles to using it is that there aren't many maintainers and the documentation expects you to already know what to do for the most part, with a historically very elitist tone, which shouldn't be a problem for you, even if it is for me (trying to install it right now. Been compiling the kernel with -j1 for over 24 hours now. I hope it works.)
Check it out if you're interested https://www.exherbo.org/

is this linux?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Tyj6ZfUORk

is it legit? they ask for $20 but if it runs android, windows, linux apps and just works that could be cool for retards like me

>>110331099
>new distro
>look inside
>arch linux

>>110331099
bwhahahahahaa