>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICEPost build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/Provide specific use casesState BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped>CASEmATX: AP201, Lian Li A3/B4, XT M3ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), Lancool 207/217, Flux Pro, 4000D FRAME, X50, BF360 Flow, HAF II 500, Summit, Warthog RSDual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8>CPUBudget: 5600/X, 12400FEntry level DDR5: 7500F, 7/9600/X, 225FGaming: 9850X3D, 9/7800X3D, 250K, 5800X3DWorkstation: 9950X/3D(2), 9900X/3D, 270K>COOLERAIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Cooler Master Atmos, Lian Li GA II Lite, Nautilus RS, Silent Loop 3, NL-LC1Dual tower: A620 PRO SE, Phantom Spirit, NH-D15 G2ITX/>42mm RAM: Big Shuriken 4, Mugen 6 Dual FanTIM: Duronaut, MX-7, PTM7950* (phase change), KryoSheet (graphene pad)*Be wary of counterfeits>MOTHERBOARDAvoid ASRock AM5 boards, CPU degradation issues still reportedChoose boards with ALC1220 audio codec when possible>RAMShit Expensive bro...Crucial RAM & SSD warranty offers refunds only, no replacementsDDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)DDR4: 3200CL16, 3600CL18>SSD (update firmware)Shit Expensive bro...DRAMless: (SN)7100, C925G, NM790PCIe Gen 4.0: (SN)850XGen 5.0: (SN)8100>GPUShit Expensive bro...Buy the best one you're willing to pay forAvoid poor value entry-level GPUs>PSUBuying guide:https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/>MONITORCheck reviews & owner feedbackBudget: 165/180Hz IPS (24" 1080p / 27" 1440p)HDR: discounted OLED or MiniLED (IPS/VA: motion clarity vs. contrast)High-end: wait for brighter 2027 OLEDs /w stripe RGB subpixels>OSActivate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt>CASE FANSMeta: Case with good stock PWM fansMidrange: Pure Wings 3, Arctic P-Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)Prev: >>110276917
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>>110285352Arctic p12 should be here for cheap and silent every day high pressure fans for small or tight airflow cases
The last thing you see before leaking graphics card secrets
Rebuilt my gaming computer with my new 9850X3D, 9070 XT, B850-E, and 32Gb of DDR5-6000. Stress test is all good and it's running buttery smooth after doing some tuning. I've got a budget Mid Tower coming in along with one of those shitty Patriot 128Gb M.2s so I can reuse my old X570-Plus, 5600X, 32Gb of DDR4, and 3070 Ti strictly for my video editing work. It'll be nice to have the division between work and leisure again. I really wasn't planning to rebuild my PC this year, but shit's fucked, so here I am.I gutted my old gaming computer trying to see if any component could be salvaged and the novelty of pulling out the old 960 gave me some momentary amusement. 4x2Gb DDR2 is so quaint it's crazy.
>>110285352kino edit'saved
>>110285681>hoyoverseKILL YOURSELF
guys I know you obsess over extra 1% fps in games but have you seen ZFS make a cool thing called anyraid and it means I can add a bunch of hard drives together that aren't the same size?Exciting stuff, and if a drive breaks there's no need to replace it with a drive of the same size.
>>110285823Kuroverse*
I'm actually building a PC right now (out of DDR3 era parts, don't ask) and this CPU cooler made completely out of copper, pic related. I zip-tied a GentleTyphoon to it using zip toes so the copper wouldn´t corrode from touching steel.
>>110285872based jeet
I fucking move it when I'm in the BIOS and I hear coil whine being the loudest thing in the system as opposed to the fans or disks. What the hell is that about? Stock voltages for the GPU? The PSU?
>>110285954Nevermind, I forgot I had the Toshiba drive plugged in to Sata power but with no data cable.
>>110285901Look at all that sweet copper
I've been looking at some AM5 motherboards and all of them have this ugly ass plastic wifi antennas despite costing 3-400€. Can I just replace this gundam-looking monstrosity with a couple regular antennas?I never use wifi but I sometimes need the bluetooth connectivity for controllers and such.
>Ryzen 5 9600X>Phantom Spirit 120SE>B650 gigabyte aorus Motherboard >9070XT>850W PSUI ordered a 9800x3d on a decent deal on AliExpress. Will I gain any noticeable performance? Should I replace the cooler? I'd rather stay on air-cooling as I don't trust AIOs. Is 850w enough? Thanks.
>i5 7500>16gb DDR4>GTX 1060 that just died>can't afford a new build just want to swap GPU>GTX 1650s going for £75+ on ebay>GTX 1660s going for £110+ on ebay>saw a 3060 at my local CEX for £460What the fuck are these prices should I just stick to my steam deck and ancient-ass shitty netbook or is a 1650/1660 worth?
>>110285996Yeah, if you look at the motherboard AIO, there's two metal ports that you screw those antennas onto. It's the same fitting that's on the end of the Gundam wedge.
>>110285954Interesting question, It got me reading about magnetostriction after searching for it on the web. I have a really dumb solution you shouldn't try on any hardware you care about, but it might help to add a tiny piece of metal like a heatsink on top of the vrm components and/or put globs of hot glue on the sides of the SMD electronic components making the noise.I say this because it sounds like the VRM component actually vibrate either by moving or rapidly changing shape.https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5786062/ "Magnetostriction, the strain induced by a change in magnetization, is a universal effect in magnetic materials."Ok then. I don't know about magnetostriction but generally anything that vibrates will move much less if you attach a weight to it.I don't know if you dare, but when you hear the coil whine you could try putting your finger on different parts of the gfx card that's making the noise and see if there's a spot you can touch to stop the noise. If this is the case then it might work to add a little heatsink off aliexpress exactly there (and other places too for good measure if you care) .
>>110285990I know right. I have this cooler twice out of aluminum and once in full-copper and weighed them:aluminum: 750gcopper: 1850g
What do I do with a 12700K + Z690 + 32GB 3600mhz DDR4 combo. Is the current market bad enough that people are still willing to overpay for DDR4 systems?
>>110286159>copper: 1850gyou can't tel me this thing is better at dispersing heat than some 50$ chink cooler off aliexpress
>>110286064Same, shit is insane, maybe the bubble pops already and prices come down
>>110286222
>>110286122>>It's the same fitting that's on the end of the Gundam wedge.that's reassuring. Thanks, anon.are AM5 boards likely to come down in price a couple weeks from now? I really don't think so but I want a second opinion.
>>110286138 Ignore this first part of my post lol:Yes it's almost certainly the size of the heatsink. But to be specific it has to have enough surface area. That's why heatsinks have fins. And then airflow over the fins, that's basically it. This is a card made to occupy only one slot on the motherboard.There is no space between the slot and the power supply to put a dual slot card, but you can use a ribbon cable and some kind of stand for a graphics card. I found this on aliexpress just now: https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005012439716449.html . I'm sorry I have no experiences with this kind of product but it seems fairly straightforward.You would of course need a different cooler for your graphics card, or simply a different card that comes with a better cooler.Ok now pay attention:I wrote this and then had a talk with an AI, which told me your card is only 53W. That's so low that I think something is wrong with yours if it gets up to 80°C. If you feel comfortable, please take out the card and check whether the cooler is even on the chip properly. You may need to take off the cooler from the board, clean all the old paste off of the chip and cooler (with an eraser) And then re-paste the cooler. Look up a tutorial so you don't use too much paste. This card should be fine if the cooler works properly. It could help to play with the side door off of the PC. Or make a hole in the door and add a fan blowing air into the (intake of) the graphics card.
>>110286003Can anyone answer please? Is this upgrade even worth it? Which air cooler/aio should I go for?
>>110286429if youre cpu bound in anything you will, ive never used an x3d chip but id assume youre fine with that air cooler, theyre meant to be almost on par with noctua right?
>>110286184Who woulda thought. It's such a funky product by the way, you never see this. But I guess the story is, that the Thermalright TRUE rev. C was (at the time) the best cooler you could have for anything in socket 1155, and obviously they sold many because that's what happens when all the benchmarks say this. So they just made a copper version.
>>110286441according to benchmarks yes
B850 or X870/X870E for 9800x3d?There's like 100€ difference between them, so not really much.Also, how well do 8 core X3D chips generally hold up over time?
>>110286166but that's still a good system
>>110286138It's those casesThey are ovens I know because I used to game on a shitbox office pc like that and it would constantly overheat and make the dual fan gpu i put in there scream I just took the side panel off so it could get at least some air lolit's that, the case is an oven, the heatsink on the card gets heatsoaked instantly and there is no cooling coming at all It's a bad time all around
>>110286514True but I am seeing bottlenecks with a 5080 in some cases, and wanted to upgrade anyways. It is in no way a bad system but I'd rather get the parts because I don't trust the PC component market to get any better.I got a 5080 around a year ago and I want a CPU capable of squeezing all possible performance out of it.
>>110286506>how they hold upwell they are either fine or they explode, particularly on asrock boardsJust get a B850 unless there's certain features you need from the top chipset
Dell just released a fix today to turn off the ridiculous edge/corner dimming "feature" so that AW3226Q is looking more tempting now too bad that'll just mean faster woled edge rot and still has all the other issues. I dunno, I'm tired of waiting for the perfect monitor
>>110286003>>110286429Only you can answer the 850W question, because it depends on ur usecase. Add things up and if you land on the 40-50 % mark then ur generally good. Look up the efficiency curve of your PSU. It's about how and what ur using ur PC for.Like a lot of people here. The upgrade is significant, but I'd never make such a small upgrade unless I had good reason.However, doing the CPU only upgrade is generally smart, especially marketwatching until you get a good price. Doing it now with the sales, plus before EU (prob rest of the west) curtails imports even more is bigbrain move. I got hundreds of bucks stored up to buy myself on ali. Seems very sensible to me, as long as you don't FOMO on the next generation immediately.
Is a 9900x3d overkill for a 5080?
>>1102866579900x3d is overkill for nothing do not buy that useless junk
>>110286003>5800x3D>ASUS Prime 9070xt>2 SSD, 1HDD, PCIE wifi-card, 2 controllers, DVDRWi'm fine on 750W bro (Corsair RM 750x)
>>110286604I know a guy who has this monitor. It's fantastic, overkill even. You don't need to worry about oled degradation, you can set it to low brightness because it's already bright at 30% and modern oled doesn't have noticeable burn-in. Just to make sure, don't keep parts of the screen displaying the same thing day-in-day-out. Use a dynamic wallpaper and hide the taskbar. Make the screen turn off when you're not using the PC. It automatically does the "pixel refresh," whatever that is. But btw the perfect monitor already exists, it's crt ;) .
>>110286064get a used RX 580, should hold you over lil poor bro
>>110286694>ASUS Prime 9070xtthoughts on that model? i want to get something before the kikepocalypse destroys everything and im seeing asus and assrocks at really good pricesi think i have the same psu but its like 12yo by now (and a 5700x3d with tt)
>>110286758
>>110286758very happy with the ASUS Prime, got it on launch day at MicroCenter, very quiet, no coil whine, i run with driver only and tweak with MSI Afterburner, -30mV and -15% power limit, 4K ultra settings in most new games at 60 fps (my TV is 60Hz), easy 144Hz on my OLED monitor with a mix of high/ultra settings, even used it with Bazzite for two weeks as a test drive, no issues, no RGB on this model but i have a Define R5 so I don't have a glass pane
>>110285793> video editing workanon, you will need more storage, much more storage.crede experto!
>>110286681What about the 9800x3d? I'm just gayming but I build an overkill rig every 6-7 years. Figured I have a chance to build my last pc given that prices keep rising. My current one is not bad, soon 7 years old with only gpu upgraded to 3000 series, but I don't want to run into trouble in a couple of years and not be able to buy anything new
>>110286803The primes are really good I'm surprised Asus made them such good quality for an msrp card, no coil while especially
>>110286816happy with ASUS so far, previous GPU was the ASUS TUF 3080 and that thing ran great, Prime is a tier below, no frills but seems decent
>>110286758With Nvidia cards, Nvidia sets a core clock that all cards have to run at, and manufacturers can mess about with boost clocks to get more performance.AMD is less strict about it and board partners can use cheaper components that aren't guaranteed to run at the clocks that AMD specifies.The Prime is one of those cards. And whilst it's unlikely, you are buying it with the expectation you might get a max core clock of 1660MHz. Other cards will state that their core clock is 1870 MHz, and so if they don't run at that clock you can RMA them. But, if you get a Prime card that only runs at 1660MHz, well, that's what they said it'd do, GG.Now, the actual chance of getting a card that only runs at 1660MHz is extremely unlikely. But, it can happen.
>>110286811Yeah 9800X3D or 9850X3D will work. The 9900X3D only gives you 1 6 core ccd which the cache which is a gimp compared to the 8 cores with cache you get on the others. Round this time I'd usually say wait for CES announcements in January to see what's coming soon but fuck it we're not getting shit any time soon if you want you're upgrade get it now and decide later if the future upgrades would even be worth it.
>>110286865Thanks. I used not to look at specs thoroughly and just unga bunga take highest number but if there ever was a time to be thorough it's now. Been having trouble choosing ram too>2x24gb 8000mhz cl40>2x32gb 6000mhz cl36Was going to pick the former with expo profiles but then I looked at the specs of several most recent cpus and realized they don't even handle 6000mhz
>>110286758Very good 9070xt model desu. Smaller than most so takes less space, 3 8 pin vs 2 for other cards (or even worse, some have the 12VHPWR), sleek design. I say go for it if you're in the market.
>>110286945aren't 24gb kits kinda iffy with compatibility, and isn't 6000mhz the sweet spot for 9000 series?
>>110286429> Is this upgrade even worth it?Depends on what you do with your rig.If you play shooters in low res, yes, the 9800x3d makes a difference that you may or may not notice, it's subjective natureIf you play cozy RPG in 1440p or higher with high qt settings then not so much. The GPU will often be the bottleneck.If you do a lot of compute intensive work then two more cores will speed it up considerably.test the cooler with the 8-core before replacing it. It will be noisier of course.850W is more than enough
>>110286618According to be quiet chart I'm fine but I would have more peace of mind with a 1000w psu. I don't plan to overclock or anything like that.>Doing it now with the sales, plus before EU (prob rest of the west) curtails imports even more is bigbrain move. Yeah I'm in the EU and they've already forced absurd taxes on anything that isn't in EU warehouses. But to be honest I don't -need- whatever extra performance I'm gaining here so I'm still not confident on my order. At least that means I should have even more margin for the next GPU upgrade in 4 years or so.What about cooling? Should I get an AIO?
>>110286972I have no idea. Last pc I built is from late 2019, I haven't kept up with more recent hardware. I've been asking around to people more knowledgeable than me for a couple of days but I'm still undecided on what to buy>64gb ddr4 bought for 300 euros or lessTake me back
>>110286978I play AAA solo games, older games and emulation in 1440p/4k.
>>110286945Go for the 2x32GB. X3D CPUs won't really benefit much from the faster speeds because of their extra cache and the internal memory controller on them will handle the binary ram easier. Not that the 24GB will cause massive problems but the imc certainly will deal with the other kit better. Plus more storage and when that ram is 1k now anyway you may as well get the max you can afford now. Also every CPU always claims to run at the slow JEDEC speeds because that's all they need to guarantee will work in 100% of cases but you can always set them to the XMP/EXPO profile they will be supported too.
>>110286560Nvidia is shitting the bed as we speak so buying at current prices is dumb, if anything sell it while the price is still inflated and keep the money
>>110287020know that feel, until almost a year ago i had 15 years old pc, managed to snag 64gb ddr5 for 350€ in the middle of crisis, when i was building my machine
>>110286808I don't store my videos locally. That's what externals and my client's cloud storage are for.
>>110287071Thank you, that clears things up. So far I have>9800x3d or 9850x3d>2x32 ddr5 6000mhz cl36>5080 gigabyte probably aorus>silent loop 3 for aio>whatever best 1000w or more psu that can be found in this cunt>gigabyte mobo likely aorusI'll get ram and gpu first so that the worst of the rape is done. Surely other components won't double in price in the span of merely two months, r-right>>110287110Very good deal. I had no idea how badly the ai crap would fuck things up. I was hoping to find good prices this month (lol, lmao) because of black friday but I'm not holding my breath. Bought a new monitor for cheaper because current one is dying but that's probably the extent of better prices I'll get
is the noctua worth it...
>>110287324always
Should I undervolt my 5090?
>>110287430Lower the power budget to the minimum manufacturer setting (don't use 3rd party junk). Also, disable curves, or edit them: set fan speed to 100% all of the time.Thank me later.
>>110287430Yes.You'll lose fuckall performance by dropping that card to 450W and you can go even lower.
>>110287000I would only get an ever buy a USED AIO, because I am a tinkerer and AIOs are generally locked down stuff that might incentivize companies to cheap out. Looking my national retailers prices, as well, ouch. Sure if u can get something from ali, then why not. If you really want to tinker alter you could always cut it up, but what you might find is that a general purpose system has it's value in the adapters, fittings, tubing etc.Thing is that watercooling stuff, is the same stuff that plumbing uses. Metal plumbing stuff doesn't depreciate much and is worth a lot for plumbing. So valuewise, just going full BoB the plumber is not so dumb if you want to become a tinkerer. At that point you'll also find that knowing what you bought, like kind of plastic etc also matters a lot and finished solution like AIOs might not reveal that.But you know, cheap from aliexpress since ur already buying CPU, for little hassle just to try...why not. Most important stuff can be repurposed later anyway.
>>110287430Well as the old saying goes which I just pulled out of my ass: undervolt/underclock the expensive new stuff, overclock cheap old stuff. It's just sensible.>>110287324Honestly, checking the prices recently. Noctua CPU coolers is like 100-200 (freedom bucks) here. That was way worse than I thought, partially because my Noctua cooler lasted so long lmao. It certainly speaks (AS ALWAYS) to advantage of going used. Even if Noctua fans last 2-3 times as long, like you probably have or are going to have a box full of spare fans lying around at some point. Thermals solutions are very DIY'able when it comes to air cooling.Today, if I were to make a systems that I really wanted to push as a main driver or something with air, I'd probably just get an oversized passive cooler, and then slap fans on it. Also as I think we is sort of coming back to now, is the advantages of a vertical PC, because you can fuck around more with the weight considerations. Also good to keep in mind the use case. A main driver block of PC is the one PC that does not need elegance. Your portable and/or homelab stuff needs more extreme products probably. Fans are consumeables, heatsinks are not, act accordingly.
>>110287499AIO arent that expensive. My phantom spirit costed like 40 eurobucks, good AIOs cost like 100 tops. I can afford that. The thing that annoys me is that they all fail and unlike you I'm not gonna bother repairing it if it's not under warranty anymore. Air cooler are more reliable but I'm still unsure of the performance and temps.
>>110287578Yeah, my market is Scandinavia a bit on the peripheree. Cheapest AIO from a normal retailer is 110 eurobucks. At 40 eurobucks it kind of stops mattering.I mean if it's all about performance than the AIO vs air doesn't matter as much as the specific cooler, so you just need to look up benchmarks. If price/futureproofing and tinkering is not a consideration then yes, it's probably a good fit for you. When air coolers last 2-3 times longer than an AIO, then AIOs are never going to beat air price wise. That's kind of the most echoed sentiment.
>>110287457>>110287577I went and did it and wow what a difference. Yeah I want longevity out of this thing. I have a wireview and seeing that sucker show over 500w and sometimes kissing 550w made me anxious. Now it doesn't go over 400w. and sits in the low 60C area. This is great. I've only had the card for about 7 months but I wish I had done this sooner. Cheers.
>>110287672>Cheapest AIO from a normal retailer is 110 eurobucksDamn. I had no idea it was this bad for you guys. For 110 you already have some of the best ones over here. I thought prices were the same across Europe.The 9800x3D draws over double so that additional heat gotta go somewhere. I don't think I have a choice but to go for watercooling.
>>110287672
>>110286506X870E is only worth it if you need 4 or more m.2 slots
>>110287672now even cheaper!
>>110285352lollmao
>>110287782Don't laugh. That is a very serious issue.
>>110286945The 8000cl40 kit contains superior hynix chips than the other one. I'd recommend getting that over the 6000cl36 kit, and then manually entering buildzoid's easy timings into the bios
>>110287782https://www.morningstar.com/news/business-wire/20261109802221/rosen-law-firm-encourages-nvidia-corporation-investors-to-inquire-about-securities-class-action-investigation-nvdayeah I saw that
>>110287724>>110287736Of course, IF I go international, then I can get it cheaper. Generally it's less hassle and safer to keep things national. Looking up prices that for prices that specifically ships to me is just....ugh..I suppose I should underscore that the European market is messy when you live in fuck-you-territory. Like I don't want to sign up for multiple websites and look up prices in each one. I find myself using aliexpress simply because of that even.Good incentive to tinker dough.
what is the best value pc for gayming
>>110287782I swear this is mostly some artificial campaign or some shit. That or /biz/ side of world just made everything weird.
>>110287808At €70 you can easily afford the shipping extra.Unlike Norway you are EU and you will have no tax problems.
lol
>>110287782L o l
>>110287870russian anons have a joke "bought a radeon instead of a videocard".
>>110287821its the most obvious stock manipulation psyop everits sad to see /g/ fell for it hook line and sinker
>>110287721CLANKER:The professional advice for a kid running a top-tier RTX 5090 is simple: Stop touching the custom voltage curves immediately and use the Power Limit slider instead.An RTX 5090 is already a massively powerful card that pulls huge amounts of power by default. When a kid tries to "undervolt" it by manually forcing the voltage down while keeping the clocks high, they are putting their multi-thousand-dollar piece of hardware at serious risk.To explain this to a kid without using confusing engineering jargon, you can use a simple Bicycle or Sports Car analogy that maps directly to the physical risks of high current and silicon degradation.The Analogy: The "Heavy Gear" Trap*"Imagine you are riding a multi-speed bicycle up a really steep hill. To get up the hill, your body needs a certain amount of total energy.• Voltage is how fast you pedal (your leg speed).• Amperage (Current) is how hard you have to push down on the pedals (your muscle force).If you 'undervolt' your graphics card using a custom curve, it’s like forcing your bike into the hardest, heaviest gear while going up that steep hill. Your legs are moving very slowly (low voltage), but to keep from stopping, you have to stomp down on the pedals with absolute maximum, crushing muscle force (huge amperage current).Eventually, pushing that hard is going to snap the bike chain or break the pedals. In your graphics card, that extreme 'stomp' of electrical current creates massive, hidden heat spikes on tiny spots inside the main chip. It will make the card unstable, cause games to crash, and can permanently burn out the expensive GPU chip or the power parts on the board."*(cont)
>>110287991Get a 1080ti, there isn't a good game it cant play
what kind of performance can i expect from a quadruple rx 6500 xt set-up?
>>110288010cont.How to Guide Them to the Right MethodShow them how to get the exact result they want (a cooler, quieter card) using the manufacturer-approved safety features:1. Reset to Default: Open their tuning software (like MSI Afterburner) and hit the reset button to wipe out any custom voltage/frequency curves.2. Use the Power Limit Slider: Instruct them to only touch the Power Limit slider. Tell them to drop it down to 80% or 85%.3. Explain the Benefit: Explain that the card’s internal computer is incredibly smart. By lowering the power budget, the card will automatically scale down both its speed and its voltage safely, keeping the card perfectly stable, running much cooler, and completely safe from burning itself out.(fin)
>>110288010>An RTX 5090 is already a massively powerful card that pulls huge amounts of power by default. When a kid tries to "undervolt" it by manually forcing the voltage down while keeping the clocks highthats solid advice but only because blackwell heavily clock stretches if you overclock at a voltage point that's too low. power limiting with the stock vf curve manages better performance than old school flat vf undervolts do
>>110288016FOMOBrained Nvidiots really need to stop giving advice to poors.1080 will most likely be in driver hell in a few years, even on Linux. The breakeven if you got a used 6700 XT instead due to power cost is well within the lifetime of the card and gets you 1 GB of VRAM more.
>>110288099please stop trolling me isnt that like a 7 year old card
>>110288109Unfortunately he's not trolling. The 1080ti is EOL'd and won't receive official driver updates anymore and the state of its open source Linux drivers is disastrous
>>110286328Why would they? I heard they'll become slightly expensive, but such news were before Jensen's pickle was found in a Chinese spy and the Murican elections with tech stonks going down, so I'm not sure now.In a few months there should be release of new Intel/AMD CPUs as well as new generation of motherboards, I expect previous generations getting slightly cheaper.
>>110288133I heard you have an RTX,stay away from my wife's son
>>110288149Radeon buyers only marry single mothers?
>>110287814>>110287991best value currently N/Aonly shit value
>>110288196Marry? I imagine Radeon buyers gang raping goats. It's cheaper!
why are the jensen fans talking about crimes against nature?
>>110288099Look Ive been gaming with a K2100m for years and managed to beat Black Mesa (at like 25fps) the 1080ti is going to be fiiine for him
What would be the best pc case fans with reverse blades?
i need to work for apple and get cutting edge hardware for "free"
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpu-drivers/amd-adrenalin-bug-could-be-writing-data-continuously-wearing-out-ssds-radeon-owner-claims-external-events-utility-used-up-1-percent-of-ssd-health-every-month-for-over-a-yearRemember to uninstall amd drivers to protect ur ssds
>>110288322what else am i gonna use then?
>>110288333anything that isnt amd
>>110288333Linux. It's always a Windows bug. The "press" is, well, you know what the press is.Windows is garbage. Windows is garbage. Windows is garbage.
>>110288255
I'm finally able to afford a decent PC and planned to buy a 5080 rig with a decent CPU, power supply, motherboard ect... Do you think it's possible to future proof the purchase so that if a better GPU comes out in say...3 years or so and I wanted to upgrade, the rest of my rig will be up to par? Outside of RAM which i could always add more, I feel like it would be a big waste to have to replace all my other parts during and upgrade in the future if i can just get decent items parts.
should i get starlink internet and a new macbook
>>110288494>future proof>buy a 750w power supply for future proof>ended up needing a 1000w in the future future proof doesn't exist because we don't know what the future holds
>>110288515I suppose it would be buying a top of the line power supply and CPU now.
>>110288376Skill issue
>>110288494>Do you think it's possible to future proof the purchase so that if a better GPU comes out in say...3 years or so and I wanted to upgrade, the rest of my rig will be up to par? I swear some of you guys are just trolling. Are you talking about running local LLMs? Because if anyone here think you NEED to upgrade 3 year intervalls or shorter you are straight up brainwashed. If you buy a modern machine with a 5080, you're probably good for the next 10 years. I don't even understand the question here I think.
>>110288568>I don't even understand the question here I think.Well the issue is that current GPUs can technically run 4k games.. but not great. The 5080 will hit decent FPS. It will be acceptable, playable. Not not something amazing. The next generation will likely achieve this. So unless you buy a 5090 (Costs about $10k usd in my county), a 5080 is the closest you can get right now. So the idea is to do the best you can do with the intention of finally getting the better GPU in the future when it's finally out.
>>110288494>spend all that money>no money left to buy tenstorrent Quasar.lulz
>>110288494To future proof, you gotta get a motherboard that will still be supported with new CPU launches then i.e. am5 and one that has more than enough IO expansion options for when you need more storage. For the CPU, you'd want a CPU that has overkill performance in games which would be the 9850x3d. Newer faster CPUs will be available by then but all older x3d CPUs have aged relatively well and the 9850x3d should also For the psu, you'd want an ATX3.1 psu that has at least 2 12vhpwr sockets which is where it seems Nvidia will be going in future
>>110288631No, it won''t. Software will always be able to push ahead of hardware.How a games looks and performs is a developer choice.
>>110288568Those gpus don't last long and the 50 series is 3 years old already, imagine spending money on overpriced outdated ewaste
>>110288631Well high fidelity games are limited by the GPU so if you're already' getting a good GPU soon then there isn't really much to worry about. Of course, improvements in RAM and CPU is there, but in this usecase, they age out too slowly for it to be a worry.If you're worried about GPU held back by the system, Nvidia GPUs are known for having a larger driver overhead, putting more stress on the CPU. However in your case, if you're buying the best of the best this is not much of an issue unless you're keeping the system for a very very long time. When you're buying the best you're kinda checkmating futureproof thing at the outset, especially because corporations game is just artificially market segmenting us and you're buying your way past that.There is more of a discussion to be had if you plan on homelabbing because then you can look at more niche features of your parts, many which people doesn't know is there already. That and you can always buy parts for your next system. For example your future local AI probably wants multiple cards, so you size your PSU for that maybe. Make sure your pcie lanes partiition in a nice way if you do multi GPUs etc etc.I suppose I'd maybe look into high clock speed CPUs as usual, because programs sitll runs often on few threads and multi gpu communication is gonna need a lot of coordination.
>>110287870Works on my Linux. Also which AMD drivers? GPU?, Mobo? RAM expo??? SSD driver??
>>110288744nigger are you blind
>>110288794woah..... You got angry for no whatever reason.
>>110287916They also say "You're no faggot if it's your first time" so I wouldn't give them much credit.
>>110288322I never have this problem though I haven't updated my drivers since last year.
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh release Quasar already, tenstorrent!!!
>>110288794It's, as I explained, a Windows problem, as per the usual.Microsoft, jewel of india
>>110288852I don't listen to women. And, I disregard idiots who consider such matters as the stupid faces they make.
is it worth it to sell my 3090 for $1400 and get a 9070xt for $770?
>>110289300people who run llms care about the vram.
>>110289313i just ordered the 9070xt, its a brand new unit from amazon germany under a prime deals discount and i figured i could always return it if i don't like itlocal prices for the same model are 60% higher than what I paid
>>110289325what are the prices?
>>1102893649070xt prime oc white$770 on amazon$1250 locally
ive seen an awful amount of people on /v/ saying that they upgraded to a 3060 recently or that are planning to upgrade to one
>>110289438>3060what's wrong with it no one can afford anything else
>>110289387American Amazon has no such deals. Maybe you don't have as many indians as our Amazon has.
>>110285813>>110285352best OP meme image of all time lmfao
>>110289438I'd be mad if I bought 3060/3070 tier gpu instead of 3080 5 years ago
>>110289464it was already outdated back when it came out for max settings 1080p gaming at 60fps. now imagine that in 2026 almost 2027>inb4 but there are no good new games nigger
>>110289571>3080>10gb of vram3090 was the only good option back then. no point in having that much power with only 10gb of vram
I bought an LG 27GM950B-B 5K Mini LED for $730. I RMA'd it because of some minor contamination and an annoyingly audible coil whine at 120/165Hz despite picture quality being glorious. They gave me my money back a week after accepting the RMA and saying they're servicing it. I checked the prices for that monitor now and it's gone up to $1200 or out of stock. Now I'm stuck with a shitty 1080p IPS panel and a laggy 1440p IPS panel with monitor prices at risk of rising after I had the steal of the year in my grasp.
>>110289600<video of a non-white
where can i order my own /pcbg/ gf?
>>110289600>claude, help me optimize this game and bring vram usage to under 8gb with PT enabled
>>110289681>dumb moid blocking the essential part of the photo
>>110289681need chinese spy gf
>>110289645>just buy an OLED bro>no consumer QD-OLEDs are commercially available yet (they'll burn out even faster than the 4K's) >MSI and Gigabyte unlikely to ship their 5K monitors any time soonAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>110286230Anyone?>>110287746Did SLI make a comeback for the 30xx series? I remember it was a thing in late 00s/early 10s and then it died but i could have sworn it made a comeback. At least with AI you can do multiGPU set ups and they can be different models. I think in original sli days, nvidia required duplicate cards but AMD let you mix n match models
>>110289746hey I nearly have this setup though I returned the 1600w Thor for the 1200w version
>>1102897733090 is the consumer last card to support 2-way nvlink/SLI. Every other rtx3000 GPU doesn't support it. 1080ti and GTX Titan x pascal was the last to support 3 and 4-way SLI. They removed SLI support with the 3090ti and 4090
Will we ever get a 2k glossy mini-LED that isn't dual mode shit?
>>110287782
>>110285352berry good mem
1050 Ti in my media PC died. Thinking of a 1660 Ti/Super or a 2060 to replace it. I want to use it for occasional couch gaming, nothing too graphically intensive as I have an ancient 1080p 32" TV.
>>110289094>Windows problemmany such cases
plasma tv speg I summon you to inform me which TV is the best to get for WCG/HDR there's so many Samsung TV models with similar names in Europe and his channel has so many videos it's confusing
How much fomo should I be feeling? I have a couple of grand spare, enough to buy a gpu but not enough that it wouldn't hurt. I see this shit is going up 25-30% since summer. It's it seriously gonna keep getting worse that fast?I don't NEED one rn and under any other circumstances that would be it but you know.
>>110289769so OLED monitors aren't yet matured? was looking the other day curious of prices and they like 350 EUR for 27" 1440p. and that's expensive. would pay 100-150 max.how long do I have to wait bros? I have my 27" 1440p 144hz IPS for like 7 years now.
>Samsung s99h>Samsung s95fThat's not a TV, that's a damn used car. What kind of idiot pays that much for a TV using tech that will instantly depreciate and degrade?
https://x86ecosystem.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/11/ACE_v2_AVX10_3_Specification_public.pdfINTEL WON, AVX 10.3
>>110290042>gets disabled after microcode update like on raptor lake
>>110289992I didn't need more ram and ssds either but bought a ton of spares late last year when prices were beginning to creep upIt's worked out really well for me
>>110289992Fyi 9070xts will be skyrocketing in prices soon(ish) as Nvidia cuts their high-end GPUs giving amd a chance to price gouge the upper midrange market
>>110289438steam survey never lies
>>110289438/v/ tends to lean pretty poor, and... Well, let's just say pretty... Cheaper countries...
>>110290072even if the 9070XT hits $1000+ AMDrones will call it a good deal
Who the hell would want TVs for static desktop use? Way too much power. You're basically spending a dollar each hour you use it. Same goes for desktop PCs anyway.
>>110289953>WCGgenuinely had to wonder what you mean by this for a second here, Wide color gamut?you know the s99h (which is called s95h in na) with the metallic bezel is the samsung flagship this year and almost the on qdoled tv left in 55-77" 83" is woleds95h in eu is just a s95f released again, the only other s90h 77" is qdoled here, the difference here is they end with HAT in the name instead of HAE, idk about your /region/some retailers have s90d 65" left in stock rarelythe lg g6 should be pretty bright in hdr too they have a new chip and hdr tonemapping the dynamic tone mapping is pretty much bright as hell in comparison where as lg fucked up the hgig tonemapping which is supposed to be the more accurate mode but it's worse currently?for color? s99h then s95f/s95h then a lg g6 should have simliar color luminosity to something like a s90d almost if you look at the numbers>>110289995a 55" should be like 1.5k on a sale a 77" like 2.5k 3knon sale tv prices are not real, if you wanna buy on day1 you get scammed
>>110289953Not that crazy guy, get their latest -H line of OLED TVs. But do some research.Some smaller sizes might be using WOLED, get 55" or larger.
it's up!
>>110290089i'll explain further, /v/ these days is at least 80% poor SEAMonkey gachafags
>>110290227people who don't wanna go blind or wear glasses
>>110290399how tf can they afford to play gacha when their so poor
>>110290417They spend most of their disposable income on that trash.Many people get lonely and want to identify themselves to a community, game devs and many other mass-consumption hobbies exploit this weakness.
>>110290399that's /vg/ bro/v/ is nostalgiafagging millenials most of which are tendies and steamies
LOL
>>110290470I have no idea what tendies and steamies are but that sounds depressing
>>110290502>ninentdo>steam
>>110290502it is, Steam users just buy shit on steam sales they never play and gloat about their backlogs, nintendo fans are just sad pathetic manchildren
>>110290511>nintendo fans are just sad pathetic manchildrenall grown men playing video games are sad pathetic manchildren
>tfw buying a recertified WD ultrastar for $750 cuz even HDDs are cuckedEven NAS is a dead dream
so some dumb bs happened bc i was a retard. i accidentally lit napkins in my garbage can on fire in my office and the house got smokey as fuck for like a couple mins. we got it all out, but smoke def got into the pc and it was on with the fans going and everything. should it be okay, do i need to worry? seems like everything is still working fine, temps didn’t change or anything. just feeling paranoid because i just put my new system together and everything
>>110290519I just can't imagine the kinda guy that sits down to play a fucking Zelda game.Like, actually getting invested in the storyline and shit like that as the character goes "BING-WAHOO-HYAAH" and shit.Holy fuck dude, you're like 30.
>>110290608Take the PC outside and use an air duster.Hold the fan blades when you aim the air duster towards the fans.
>>110290608Over 90% of the GPU market belongs to Nvidia which other hardware manufacturers cannot ignore. They build their products smokeproof nowadays because thet know that sooner or later there will be fire and smoke in 9/10 PCs they make hardware for.
>>110290096Even? That's regular 9070 prices
>>110290696AMgreeD knows no bounds.
>>110290380I was expecting 5070 Ti to hit $2500 next year, but I guess I'll have to revise that prediction to 4-5 grand.
So what's next for the Huangster and Nvidia? Will they ever recover from this?
>>110290380I might unironically buy this and resell it unopened next month
>>110290968He'll flee to China to avoid consequences and start a new line of AI datacenter chip manufacturersNothing will change in the grand scheme of things
>woken up by intestines suffering due to incoming terrible poop>believe for a few minutes it's because I don't have enough RAM and need to buyIt's getting to me...
>>110290968https://youtu.be/W8x4m-qpmJ8?t=90>拥有全球市值最高的公司>身家亿万>却有个老掉牙、正值更年期的老婆>不——!你这辈子都别想再碰别的女人了;就算你富可敌国,也不配再有女人——!>在他们登顶世界之巅、竞争对手试图破坏他那股“酷劲儿”的时候,这事儿偏偏就爆出来了>男人不能出轨黄仁勋(Jensen)没做错什么#我的CEO #支持黄仁勋
>>110290998That's what you deserve after waiting™ through the most favorable market situation between 2023 and 2025.
thinking about buying an overpriced nuc with a desktop gpu since i've been traveling a lot lately
>>110290380Fr tho finna sign out of and stop looking at hardware news until 2028 at the very least what's the point currently
how much fps do I actually gain from using a high end case fan vs a budget case fan?
What the fuck.AMD cards have been priced hiked this badly?Shit like £200 more than I got my 5080 for. Who the fuck is buying AMD cards for even half that price?
>>110291154It's negligible if even any difference at all. The only reason why you would pony up for premium case fans is for lower noise or aesthetics.
>>110291154Choosing different case fans is mostly about quality of life.You can get by with cheaper fans if you lower the RPM at the cost of the processors running a bit warmer (shouldn't thermal throttle in actual gameplay).
>>110291183>>110291186thanks anons, I can't find anyone selling noctua fans in my country . I think I'll just pick up either some deepcool or some arctic ones and call it a day
>>110291202Adjust the fan RPM & step up/down settings for your existing set of case fans before you spend any money.>>110260282https://www.noctua.at/en/support/faqs/how-do-i-optimise-my-fan-settings
>>110290636yeah shit was deliberately designed for 8 year olds
Somebody please take my bait so I can stop responding to myself
Imagine running default fan curves.
>>110291370It's crazy, I've been building my own PCs since 2009 and it wasn't until last year that I properly learned how you're supposed to setup fan curves. You would think more pc building tutorials would include a post-build checklist and teach you how to make your pc nice and quiet while remaining cool instead of your pc sounding like a hair dryer for a few seconds every time you launch a program.
Motherboard manufacturers set aggressive default fan curves to account for terrible coolers & fans.Read up on setting up custom fan curves before you consider buying new case fans or CPU cooler.This Arctic AIO fan curve guide shares general information that's applicable to major AIB's BIOS.https://support.arctic.de/en/pwm-settings
I'm seeing trends of companies planning to set up their own ai server for internal use, also robotics is start getting hypePrice decrease not in the next 5 years I guess
i bought a thermaltake the tower 600 with some rgb fans, will make my first rgb disco pc with some spare partsi will use it in my living room for emulation/gaming/pirating moviesits 32gb ddr 4000mhz, 12700k, 3080 rtx, a 420aio and some old m.2 ssd 1gbobviously i would need more storage but it all seems so expensive, cant even get a 2tb ssd for less then 200 euro's
>>110285352>Choose boards with ALC1220 audio codec when possibleWhy is that ? I know nothing about audio codecs. The one I'm looking at has that on top of everything else I want
>>110291601Alc4080 has audio pops while Alc1220 doesn't Both are identical in spec except that the former is implemented with USB unlike the latter
>>110291653Thanks
>>110290084the 5070 doesn't show up this high anymore, it depends on what people login when they collect the information, and in this one some chinks testing a lot of 5070s logged in probably
I bought a Macrovip SSD that I intended to use as an external drive for backups and when I put it in nothing happens. It still pops up as something connected that I can disconnect, as ''Jmicron'' but that's itDoes anyone know how I can make it work or why this is happening?
>>110291601>>110291653Buy a sound blaster Z se
>>110291823Is that worth it if I already have a dac and an amp ?
>>110291845depends on how you connect it to your PC and your motherboards lane setup
Hello, does anyone know if the HISENSE 65UR8S any good for desktop usage? It's on the cheaper side of showroom TVs I've seen at $1600 and hits a claimed 3500 nits at 180Hz.
>>110291862Right now the dac is connected to the pc via the motherboard with an optic cable, and the amp connected to the dac. I bought a sound card when I built this pc but never fucking used it because I didn't have the right cables, it just sits there menacingly
>>110291880I recommend one of those upcoming 4k 360hz qd oleds for *desk* top
>>110291913Who needs 4k 360hz when no gpu can get it
>>110291930frame gen better brightness vs last genbetter sub pixel layout
>>110291780Buy cheap, buy twice.
I can't go back to 4K after jumping to 5K.
>>110291906unless you have some extra pcie soundcard the optical out goes through your audio codec. If you have e.g. ALC4080 or 4082 it sucks a bit as those use usb internally like anon previously mentioned. Alternative you can try usb directly, preferable one port that directly goes to the CPU or check how your additional pcie slots work and if a soundcard is possible in case you get audio delay or crackling that bothers you
Went back to 1440p after seeing my frames go from 500 fps down to 180-200 fps when using 4K
>>110291880I dunno about desktop use but those RGB MiniLED TVs look fantastic
>>110287870Fuuuuuuuuuck does it affect iGPUs too?
>>110292024It's AMD, of course it fucking does.
>>110292024>>110292038It doesn't happen on my machineSounds like FUD or people on ancient Windows version 11
>>110287870My SSDs are at 100% for years nowOf course there is no Radeon trash on my computers that endlessly write to them destroying their health
>>110287870funny if you disable the stuff that writes unnecessary then freesync gets disabled and other features
>>110292068Yeah but your Nvidia drivers suck ass on Windows 10/11/Linux. No it doesn't just work on your machine. Gaslight your mom.
>>110292094It doesn't even happen on others machines it's FUD wheres the proof on the other generals. This general is underaged and full of retarded phone posters.
when is nvidia fixing their shitty broken flip metering
Other than enabling XMP I, what should I tweak in BIOS? I'm kinda clueless about voltages and that but I wanna maximize the life and power of my 5070ti, 270k plus and 48gb ddr5. Last night I turned on XMP tweaked in BIOS and it sent me to boot cycle purgatory till I figured out how to reset my bios. It's on an ASUS rog strix z890-A motherboard if that helps
Hookshot recomp runs better on Steam Machine than 5090 Lol.
>>110292114So does 9070XT in CS2
>>110292096Nope shit works great not like amd garbage that kills your pc typical playstation amd crap
>>110292123Yeah nah shut up bitch.Your annecdotes are up your ass
>>110292103retarded AMD faggots bought it and are the ones crying about it as usual or coping like you are
>>110292123Nvidia is broken as shit retard go stroke your own cock. No it doesn't work.
>>110292137Nvidia is busted not AMD. It's 2026 not 2006. Look at stock market Nvidia is losing to AMD precisely because their shit is broken.
DLSS and CUDA run on Radeon now like what's the point of Nvidia just to run Linux worse and crash on Windows 11 and obsolete their Windows 10 drivers for good?
>>1102921415080 great card selling for shitloads now>>110292149i'll just look at the news of AMD users reporting their dying ssds and AMD themselves reporting their shitty drivers are killing them
>>110292161AMD cards always require questionable 3rd party software and hacks to work like a GeForce GPU while GeForce just works out of the boxAMD is only a good deal if you have shitloads of time on your hand so it's only for neets
schizo thread
AMD cards are just total fucking shit that's why nobody buys them except trannies
>its amdover
>>110286694what cooler are you using? what would you recommend?
>>110292057An AMD official admitted their Windows drivers are fucked up, and they will be releasing a driver fix.This problem is 100% caused by AMD. The excessive drive writes stop after users disable AMD External Events Utility.There's no Windows Update that will fix the issue, because AMD is the one who fucked up their Windows driver component.
>>110292057>t.
>>110292231good thing I'm running linux lol, wintoddlers BTFO
>>110292264Go ahead and stick to Linux because AMD can't write proper Windows drivers.Small company AMD relies on Linux troons to fix their broken drivers.
>>110291906The SBZ SE supports optic, in my case I use it to drive my Sennheiser headphones and my surround sound speakers thoughIt's pretty good at removing crosstalk and gets very powerful though be weary of GPU coil whine
>>110292271you act like gaymurs haven't been bitching and moaning about nvidia drivers lol
>It is 2008>My Radeon HD 4870 has shit drivers.>It is 2016>My Radeon RX 480 has shit drivers.>It is 2026>My Radeon 9070XT has shit drivers
>>110292316The same can be said about Gaydeon drivers.Look at this faggot moving the goalposts to deflect from the fact that an Adrenaline graphics driver is accelerating SSD writes.
Do you spongemaxx your PC?
NOOOOOOOOOOO
>>110292369>Disunited State of amerimutt is actually just a proxy war battleground between China and India under Jewish trusteeship
>>110291880>claimed 3500 nits>look inside>700 nits sustained full screen brightnessOH NO NO NOwhy do TV fags lie about TVs being brighter than monitors?
>>110292369White guy Jesus follower Pat Gelsinger couldn’t correct the trajectory of Intel.CEOs and interim CEOs don’t matter as long as the business priorities remain the same.
>>110292338fuck off back to /reddit/ with that goalposts garbage this isn't a debate faggot
>>110292407Because the best OLED gaming monitors available today sustain 300 nits maximum full screen brightness.
Nvidia is the new Apple. Just poors pretending to be elite. Better Klarna that 5070ti.
>>110292412Then stop treating this like one.Stop defending AMD for their fuck ups, they are big enough to own their faults.A new Adrenaline driver that fixes their fuck up will be released, not a new Windows update like you keep bullshitting.
>>110292369lmao one way to ruin every western tech company
>>110292433The real question is if they'll practice some consumer advocacy and compensate customers for damaging their hardware or if they'll just tell the customers that they've damaged the hardware of to get fucked.
>>110292442It was already ruined with Turing.
>>110292450They’ll just say some bullshit like the increased drive writes are in line with daily usage patterns for power users or something.
>>110292433I only pointed out that it affects wintoddlers lol, stop being butthurt
>>110285352Harro everyoneDoes nvidia and micron each losing 30% of their stock value this month alone have any effect on whether I'll ever buy a better computer again?
>>110292433Better Klarna that 5090.
>>110292515Nvidia drivers are getting worse with no sign of improving what do you think? Check AMD vs Nvidia stock.
Nvidia stole the shovels (hardware) and neglect the mines (software) and you wonder why they are shitting the bed now
>>110292511That's not what your pajeet replies implied in >>110292057>Sounds like FUD or people on ancient Windows version 11You are the one who's fudding about Windows versions, it's a specific Adrenaline driver causing the issue.And I'm having a blast witnessing your meltdown over this topic.You've been on unpaid damage control blaming Windows for days.Stop being butthurt over AMD's jeetcoded drivers.
>>110292520okay
>>110290399like that other anon said that's /vg/, /v/ has a lot of europoors
>>110292520i will never buy nvidia I used my friends 5080 at his house and it was barely trying to keep it together using hw acceleration on youtube :\
>>110292542Nvidia is $173 AMD is $508
>>110292542>>110292539Jits
>>110292569This guy's completely lost it because he can't accept AMD released a jeet-coded display driver component.
>>110292520Lmao Nvidia is dogshit no matter what consumer OS you use. Their driver overhead is insane for gaming and their AI slop is crashing due to lack of vram swap.
>>110291880people are shilling the ur7 as the best budget miniled so idkyou could literally have gotten a qdoled for cheaper multiple times though>>110292407they are thoughbut mostly for hdr but otherwise too
>>110292583Nobody cares about your post jit shut up cocksucker.
>>110292556That's not how stocks work.The value of a stock isn't how much it costs to buy one, it's how much value it gains.Stock price is effected primarily by how many of those stocks exist, and how quickly those stocks gain value. Market cap is the value of a stock multiplied by the number of shares that exist.AMD has a market cap of 834.31B.Nvidia has a market cap of 4.04T.
>>110292520Yeah fuck RTX I noticed they have bad rep now.
>>110292590Seething Retardeons FUDing on consumer goods they can't afford.Most people who can afford RTX cards have higher end CPUs and play at higher resolutions where this FUD don't matter.
>>110292599>Muh Market CapYoure just as retarded as Bitcoin tards
>>110292606>>110292594
>>110292594Your jeet ass can't stand being called out though.
>>110292608This is why Indians stay poor.
When is Nvidia fixing their decoder or HDR it works on AMD.
>>110292615>>110292619See>>110292421
>>110292620>Just let me bullshit about things that I don't own.
>>110292515yes, to recover from the losses they will raise prices
Real talk why are Nvidia drivers worse than AMD now they barely work on windows or Linux ffs they discontinued windows 10 it should be getting better not worse actually nvm windows 10 is the same NT kernel as 11
>>110292625I got my 5080 a year ago for like $1000.If I had to buy a GPU right now, I just wouldn't.
>>110292632Nobody is talking to you. As far as I'm concerned you should be at school underaged.
>>110292645>Real talkYou don't know what you're talking about. That's the real talk.PC builders are willing to pay all-time-high prices for RTX cards, and AIBs are begging NVIDIA to send them more RTX 50 BOM kits.That's real.
>>110292649I'd rather buy apple than Nvidia shit.
>>110292660Nobody is talking to you shah of Iran
>>110292665For me it's Nvidia > Apple > AMD > Intel
>>110292651Says the dumb nigger who can't stop replying to his posts.The jeet's having a meltdown after it unsuccessfully tried to hush AMD driver component increasing SSDs writes.
>>110292685Only women buy Nvidia and Apple.
>>110292692Close your mouth there are flies in your room. Don't let me dox your user agent mobile retard.
>>110292583>5080>cum stainsExplains a lot.
>>110292693true
>>110292700You're not even qualified to clean my toilet. Know your place.
>>110292693Yeah, my GF might buy me a 5090, I guess. Dumb bitch ain't got anything better to spend that HR money on.
Womp womp womp 5080 bros
This news article triggers the jeet Retardeon troons.
Been a while since ive upgraded my pc. want some thoughts. im based in the US.>Ryzen 7 2700x>B450>Noctua DH15>GTX 1080TI>32gb DDR4 @ 3200mhz>1000W PSU (needed it for gpu linux stuff)I was thinking about upgrading my CPU first cuz of my bottleneck then dealing with the GPU hell later (prob a 9060xt or a 9070xt)I know that the 5800x3d got rereleased but $300 seems pretty steep. especially since can get a 5800xt for less then $200. or a 5900x for the same price.The 3d cache is nice but idk if i will utilize it to its max potential. i dont game often but i would see it useful. but idk how it would help with cad or video editing. tho its the best i can get on my board till i decide to go am5.
>>110292593>you could literally have gotten a qdoled for cheaper multiple times thoughShow me
>>110292709>thinks about cum first when looking at a drawing depicting vaporsgaydeon moment
>>110292763Stay on DDR4 if Ryzen 5000 CPUs are good enough for your work.https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/amd-ryzen-5800x3d-vs-5800x-for-content-creation-2331/
>>110292418We are talking about television screens not small computer monitors
>>110292782He was staring at the guy's pants because he's a Radeon cocksucker.He's thirsting for RTX card owner's cum.
>>110292763I feel kinda shitty telling people to "Upgrade" to another DDR4 board, but you don't really have a whole lot of choice unless you want this to be an expensive upgrade.For GPU, honestly man I'd just get a used 3080/Ti. It'd be like half the price of what the 9070XTs have been inflated to, and easily gets you 80% of the way there. 9070XTs are gonna be over a grand by the end of the year, and that's just silly. You can get a 3080 for like $500.
HOLY FUCK HE STOLE OUR 5090'S
>>110292821>7.5 Billion in chips.So, what like 10 Blackwell 6000 cards?
>>110292821Surprising to no one
>>110292806>You can get a 3080 for like $500.untrue also >10gb of vram
Damn Zen 6 looking good.
>>110292776s90d 55 new from bestbuy or whatever was like 800 bux new65 a bit morelike cmonamericans cant suffer
>>110292821No shit did everyone memory hole the truck load pallets of 5090s in Chinese warehouses?
>>110292861N-not you don't get it our GPU pallets are so big they're MASSIVE they could never fit in a truck
>>110292806You see i would go Nvidia but they have held my balls in a chokehold for drivers on linux. i only got this 1080ti cuz i found a really good deal to not pass up on. especially since i dont find any value in RTX or DLSS/Framegen and all the games i do play preform fine on it.them killing drivers on windows was just the final nail in the coffin. I dont have any issue with my gpu currently so its not a priority. spending more on a card that is soon to be obsolete is kinda dumb. especially since i plan on swapping back over fully to linux after i get a new gpu because of the driver issue.
>>110292821>>110292829>>110292861Gemeenee says t>>110292858he calculation is not based on consumer GPUs like the RTX 5090. Instead, investigators explicitly tied the dollar value to moving roughly 240,000 enterprise-grade data center GPUs (specifically the H100, H200, and A100 architectures) into Chinese AI labs.The math utilized by investigators maps out cleanly when looking at enterprise wholesale values rather than retail scalper prices: a $31,250 average value aligns perfectly with the standard contract/volume enterprise pricing for baseline H100 Hopper GPUs, which typically command roughly $30,000 to $40,000 apiece from Tier-1 distributors before secondary market markups.If you want to look at alternative scenarios using consumer silicon or workstation lines, the contrast in volume is dramatic due to massive price distortions, for an RTX 5090 assuming an ASP of 4-9 grand:>$1,999 MSRP: $7.5B would equal 3,751,875 cards >$7,500 street price: $7.5B would equal 1,000,000 cardsFor the RTX Pro 6000 Blackwell>$16,000 market rate: $7.5B would buy roughly 468,750 cars, double that at the original MSRP
>>110292862>How thorough is Windows' built in memory diagnostic tool?Better than nothing. I suggest you run these free tools as well:OCCT (memory, CPU + memory tests)TestMem5 Anta Extreme: https://github.com/CoolCmd/TestMem5y-Cruncher, choose memory intensive testsSkip y-Cruncher if you're unsure whether your CPU have safe voltage settings.
>>110292879You're right they brought it over by ship.>>110292906Anything stronger than the 4090 is technically banned in China.
>>110292829Ackshually it's like 3 million rtx5500 Blackwell cards
the 5060ti 16gb and the 5070 cost the same in my cunt on amazon
>>110292898Well, Nvidia never damaged your SSD.
>>110292942Because they attract gamers (5070) or entry level AI/3D rendering users (5060 Ti 16GB).>12GB NOT ENOUGH FOR GAMINGGame devs can't afford to close off the vast majority of PC gamers with 8 or 12GB VRAM.9070 GRE 12GB is also selling well atm.
>>110292879Moving 240,000 data center units is not a matter of a few travelers packing suitcases; it represents a major, systematic diversion of enterprise-tier compute infrastructure.To put this in perspective: 240,000 H100/H200 units is roughly equivalent to the entire cluster sizes utilized by the largest hyperscale tech conglomerates to train frontier foundation models. It essentially means full-scale, cutting-edge AI data center capacity was built out in total avoidance of active international export control.When dealing with proper "AI Factories," companies rarely buy individual loose dies; they buy fully integrated compute units or structural server infrastructure:>Individual Hopper/Blackwell Dies: A high-end unified GPU (like the dual-reticle architectures) costs roughly $50,000 to $55,000 raw in volume.>HGX Boards (Server Blades): Typically configured with 8 GPUs per baseboard. An 8-way H100 or H200 HGX assembly commands roughly $300,000 to $350,000. If the $7.5B were spent on built out server blades, it equals roughly 21,000 to 25,000 HGX system boards.>Full NVLink Supercomputer Racks: Fully integrated solutions (like the 72-GPU configuration racks connected via NVLink switch blades) retail near $7.8 million per rack.Running the math here: $7.5 billion means at least 960 full supercomputer racks.
>>110292969Look at these jeets resorting to AI responses.
>>110292829>So, what like 10 Blackwell 6000 cards>It described the alleged setup: Alice Huang, her husband and her sister built a network of companies across China and Singapore that moved about 240,000 H100, H200 and some A100 chips into China
>>110292955They did? All those Nvidia driver and hardware issues cause sudden power loss which means your data gets corrupted.
>>110292966>Game devs can't afford to close off the vast majority of PC gamers with 8 or 12GB VRAM.i mean settings options exist on pc for a reason but if you've ever played resident evil 2 remake or resident evil 3 remake you'd know those games need more than 12gb of vram to max out the settings WITH NO RT, and the former came out in fucking 2019frame generation also needs like 1gb of vram
I dual boot and every update my machine would update to the latest driver. killing video support. i was albe to fix it multiple times but i got pissed off and started only booting windows.also uni courses require i use proprietery software that doesnt run on windows.
>>110293008Yeah computers don't care about your brand war feelings. It sees a bad TSMC PCIE device (Nvidia) and rejects it like a toddler projectile vomiting everywhere.
>>110292906So if this bubble crashes and all those datacenters liquidate the GPUs what then? can we use adaptors for PC? or its better if chinese companies take the dies and build new cards with them? would be even worth it if prices go even lower than after the crypto crash?
>>110293023People who buy 12GB VRAM cards in 2026 aren't entitled to maxed out settings.>>110293008Amazing how such unreliable GPU gets bought up in bulk by enterprises and 3D graphics rendering firms.You can quit the larp and settle for a Radeon card.It's funny how these manchildren think their anecdotes & shitposts are moving the needle
>>110293038Funny how its AMD's current jeet-coded display driver component is causing PCIe issues.
>>110292917And yet China already has Limeshine at 2.19 exaflops, which I believe is the most powerful supercomputer installation on the planet. Anyone minimizing a $7.5 billion hardware acquisition as a "drop in the bucket" is completely conflating a company's total multi-year cloud infrastructure budget with actual raw compute density.If you take $7.5 billion in hardware and funnel it into a single, unified installation, you aren't building a normal data center—you are building one of the most powerful supercomputers on Earth. In raw FP64, If we use the reported metric of 240,000 H100 GPUs, Converted to Exaflops, it equals 8.16 Exaflops of theoretical peak performance. Even if we assume a standard real-world Linpack efficiency loss (e.g., getting roughly 70% sustained performance}, the system would achieve roughly 5.71 Exaflops.If consolidated, this cluster would be nearly 3 times more powerful than the fastest official supercomputers in existence. It completely eclipses the world's elite exascale systems.>tl;dr china could have smuggled enough hardware to build the single most powerful cluster on Earth that's 4x more powerful than the USA's best if they wanted to
>>110293078>>110293076>>110293066>>110293055You are doing an illegal operation for your computer and IRL by choosing Nvidia.
>>110293096We're not in China you ignorant retard.
>>110293066How have they not released a hotfix driver yet? This is a huge disaster for Radeon brand image
>>110293106The CEO is doing illegal things and so is the computer when it detects Nvidia in its PCIE slot.
>>110293118Take your meds and fuck off.
>>110293124You mad that your computer does illegal operations because you chose the wrong TSMC PCIE device?
First zen6 official IPC figures are out. +20% over zen5 in enterprise workloadsFor Ryzen zen4->zen5, it's listed as +16% while it's +17% IPC for enterprise. Taking this into account, it is about +19% IPC for consumer ryzen
>>110293142Yes dey mad cuz they bought a 5070ti on Klarna.
>>110292742lol every time radeon has an issue the fix is always to uninstall their garbage drivers
>>110293145So if you get 144fps on 9800x3d you get 172fps on 10800x3d assuming same clocks
>>110293142>you chose the wrong TSMC PCIE device?You can quit the projection. Behaving like this won't change the reality that you're priced out of NVIDIA cards for a long time.
>>110293023Guess they have to fucking work for once and optimize their shit, the era of cheap compute is over, we're back to the 90s
>>110293164lol every time nvidia has an issue the fix is always to uninstall their garbage hardware and software
>>110293173Not quite. Zen5 is barely a 3% increase in performance iso-clock compared to zen4. Most of its IPC gains only showed up in heavy avx workloads instead of integer ops used in games
>>110293145I just want to see how IO die changed on desktop.
>>110293145>https://chipsandcheese.com/p/amds-zen-6-family-feeding-the-beastIt seems zen6 epyc embargo got lifted today
If I came over here looking to build a pc and saw you motherfuckers loyally arguing like this over part brands that are currently weighing the option of cutting you out of the equation entirely I would fucking close the tab and go buy a console
>>110293332>I would fucking close the tab and go buy a consoleso you move from one brand war to another?
>>110293353>>110293353>>110293353Added fan curve adjustment notice in 2nd reply.
>>110293332You can stop pretending like you have a choice at current market prices.The people who could afford RTX 50 cards already bought one.
>>110293332It’s especially amusing to read these arguments, considering how much has changed since the AI boom—yet these degenerates and their points have remained exactly the same.
>>110293388>AI boom—yet these
>>110293332They aren't just brands they are completely different architectures and technologies, one which actually works and one which is a complete fucking pile of jeetcoded AMD garbage
What the fuck is wrong with this site
>some dude gets freaky and now i can't afford a pc upgradewhy
>>110293643well you see elon musk invented ai and AI uses a lot of dram to store tokens and 10 different tech giants in usa are buying 10 year dram supply contractrs