What is the next big aesthetic wave after Flat Design going to be? How much longer will Flat Design last?
poor consumer multimedia, software interface, product & graphic design history, someone will have to salvage it from the damage the 5-minute-clout chasing trannies have done to it
>>456971fucking shut the fuck up
>>456973people who make these images are retards and grifters
All those eras had flat design.
>>456976I actually know the person who made that image, no joke lol
Interesting question! Hard to predict.
Do you guys think we could update this image to be a bit more accurate? Or at least one for each decade or something, because I can think of quite a few more aesthetic/graphic design trends besides these 4.
>>458317bruh just start. if it is interesting people will join...
>>456970stfu evan collins
These changes were driven by technology just as they were taste. Industrial engineering and materials science, improvements in CAD, 3d modelling software and Photoshop (Aqua and Aero owe everything to PS' layer styles feature), the displays that we view these designs on and the restrictions they demand.Flat design dominates because these technological factors have barely changed in the past 10 years, so the only thing left is taste. And taste has changed, but it's not like Spotify is going to make their logo all-chrometype any time soon. Phone displays have gotten larger and more vibrant; maybe that'll result in skeuomorphism coming back? I dunno.
idk man. Flat is meant to give room for the users to do their thing, but I was brainstorming an idea and i realized i circled back to hipsters of the early 2010s.How I got there was thinking how everyones lost their optimism for the future. Stagnation, death, and just gloom and doom. I wanted to make a rebelious aesthetic. A kamikaze towards the future, maybe brutalism or punk, having to have a resolute acceptance of death, i figured a more grounded peaceful yet steady approach, better. A walk towards the future instead of going full throttle.Charcoal and stone finishes for your electronics casings. a matte finish. cables wrapped in a type of woven fiber. Wooden desks and chairs. Not to heavy but more sturdy than the flimsy minimilst breakable stuff. use of earth tones and amber leds. mugs and bowls made of clay. Thats when i realized I was thinking of a hipsters coffee shop. Hobbits with laptops. maybe dial it back a bit to be less pretentious hipsters and more about being home with mom and dad for the holiday. Home. Anyways, i could go for a dirty chai.
>>456970Flat, but even more minimalistic and less colorslike, rudimentary shapes in black and white or shy unattractive color palettes
>>458352>just deconstruct the fuck out of our previous logo please>there, I don't even know what it says anymore>perfect! that will do
Neo Corporate Airbrush-High Techhttps://www.are.na/evan-collins-1522646491/80s-corporate-airbrush-high-tech[Just kidding of course. Flat design is here to stay.]
>>456970when i see these images i just imagine that people at the time (80's, 90's, etc) probably felt the same way about this kind of thing like how we do now.
>>458622My opinion on 2000's tech has definitely been rehabilitated. I was born in 2002. So when I saw something with the style of what they now call Y2K, it had been associated in my mind with old broken and outdated tech. Thetranslucent plastic had yellowed, The software was old and slow. It was the markers of the old.I feel like that must happen to every person, at least while they're growing up with the art style that directly precedes them.
>>458622there is nothing new under the sun.
>>458353nvkia
>>456970I wish we stayed in y2k forever
>>456970do y'all not have internet?the new thing is that when the emphasis is on the materials and textures. that tactile 3d feel, minimalistic in shape and color but definitely not flat. using materials and textures that differ not only in color but other propertiesfor interfaces a great example is microsofts' fluent design or that thing the apple vision pro got goin onfor objects it's like teenage engineering or nothingidk if this has a name tho, if it does i'm unfamiliar. desu i feel like it's a bit soulless. flexing the technical abilities of our current era but in a mid manner.also why do i have to wait for 900 seconds for a captcha? is this some new thing?
>>458622You'd probably have to query some 60ish year olds for objectivity. I was a kid in the 90s and thought the aesthetic was very distinct from the 80s and in a good way. In the aughts I was a teen/early 20s and thought that we'd seen incredible progress and was very excited. In both cases, the enthusiasm could be attributed to youth. I dislike the flat design we've been stuck in. It is nihilistic and soulless. I used to mod OSX to look like this for a week at a time, but would never have wanted it to predominate. Am I just getting old or is this objectively awful design? Hard to say.
>>458353I don't mind it. The most iconic logos are unreadable. Readability has been the worst thing to happen to design. Every logo is now the name of the company written in helvetica. Anything unreadable is better.
>>456970Maybe some kind of a pragmatic style that integrates nature with flat design. It's what corporations would have chosen to please everyone.
Which do you think the website is in?
What aesthetic do you think this website is?
>>459187Chudiger Trano
I did one as sort of an umbrella of futuristic and technophilic design trends from the 1980's which share a sort of cheesy '80s-ish' vibe and which have heavily influenced the revivalist genres, synthwave and vaporwave. The title '80s Corporate High-Tech' (or '80s Futurism') is tentative but basically this covers much of 'Cassette Futurism' (which dips into the 70s), the retrofuturist typography used in the 80s (and late 70s), the futurist/technophilic portion of 'Airbrush Surrealism', and includes the design trend referred to as 'Laser Grid'. So just as Y2K Futurism (or 'Cybercore') contains multiple design trends within it (such as Vectorheart and Metalheart) so does 80s Futurism. The aesthetic glorified high technology, and with a particular interest in the advancing age of personal computers (often due to tech companies commissioning ads for their products). It often depicted basic 3D geometric shapes, early computer displays and virtual worlds (i.e. the infamous laser grids), outer space as a backdrop for depicted objects, ostentatious displays of the color spectrum (to signify advanced tech capabilities), stylized parallel rows of lines or strips (but usually not as playful and exuberant as with 70s supergraphics), airbrush-style metallic surfaces and exaggerated sparkles, retrofuturist typography, 'boxy' angular imposing SciFi designs for vehicles, tech products, and interior design which were usually white, beige, or gray. The airbrush art tended to be visually darker, more surreal than the preceding variants of retrofuturism, and the tech product designs would have a noted 'boxiness' to it as opposed to the 'roundedness' of the preceding futurist product designs of the 60s & 70s. The common thread was that it all looked like it was from some 80s science fiction film. 1/2
>>459755Having its roots in the retrofuturism of the 70s, it was largely anchored in the 1980s since it was more or less dead by the time the 90s came around due to airbrush art being made obsolete by the rise of CGI, and the art styles associated with airbrushing started to look antiquated. It would be superseded by '90s Corporate Cyber' after the 80s. 2/2https://www.are.na/evan-collins-1522646491/80s-corporate-airbrush-high-techhttps://cari.institute/aesthetics/laser-gridhttps://www.are.na/evan-collins-1522646491/cassette-futurismAirbrush Surrealism:https://www.are.na/evan-collins-1522646491/airbrush-surrealismhttps://tumblrviewer.co/blog/kingsanda-1.html90s Corporate Cyber:https://www.are.na/evan-collins-1522646491/cyber-gen-x-corporate
And here's another broad umbrella of styles which, together, comprise a certain aesthetic that emerged in the late 80s as a naturalistic reaction to the technophilic excess of that time. It eschewed computer-generated imagery for the 'earthly' feel of hand-painted arts and crafts, soft pastel colors, and down-to-earth typography. It typically consisted of stereotypical depictions of tribal art, painted spirals, symbols of Earth & nature, as well as borrowing from a variety of early 20th century art movements. The visual styles of GVC (Global Village Coffeehouse) are diverse enough for it to be broken down into subgenres but they overlap a lot and they're individually not significant enough to merit it since they're all watered-down imitations that share a similar appeal and commercial purpose. The common thread among them would be a tunefulness with nature, the feeling of humanity being united, and a sort of cheesy “welcome to our cafe” commercial appeal. Sometimes it consisted of photographs of a product in a naturalistic setting with dimmed or natural lighting and with it being surrounded by sand or straw. It was often used by companies to make their products more inviting to normal everyday people who might feel estranged by the tech world. In this sense, the intent behind it bares some resemblance to the intent of Frutiger Aero. Some people eventually found the aesthetic to be inauthentic, embarrassing and distasteful so it would soon be ditched after the 90s.https://www.are.na/evan-collins-1522646491/global-village-coffeehousehttps://cari.institute/aesthetics/global-village-coffeehousehttps://aesthetics.fandom.com/wiki/Global_Village_Coffeehouse
>>459755>>459756>>459757Keep in mind that I did these mainly for fun. It's good to not get too carried away with categorizing everything and just enjoy exploring distinct visual styles.
>>456970Its long in and it's glass design. Though monkeys have big issues implementing it cause idk
>>456970Holographic. Using neon colors in a sleek way that overindulges in the color spectrum but still remains relatively simple. The red+blue faux 80s design has been around long enough, people want to see yellow green and blue again. But pink and blue will remain an anchor.
>>459757Always did like GVC. Can you do "utopian scholastic" next?
>>456970AI slop, whatever AI will give executives when they prompt it with their product.
>>45697080s, 90s and 2000s had the best designs. It's all downhill 2010s onward
I hope the flat aesthetic dies soon, everything is so boringgg! Frutiger Aero and Y2K definitely need a comeback.
>>460231I had plans to do a few more but they were shelved as I lost interest in this stuff soon after I finished the two graphics I posted here. Regrettably, it could be a while before I get back into it.And you really gotta be into it too because these types of graphics have a very involving process. If you're doing a good job it involves many hours of searching through hundreds, if not thousands, of images trying to find the ones that are both good and exemplary of the aesthetic. Then you have to track down quality scans of your selections, which can involve ordering a vintage magazine or a CD on eBay. Then you have to edit the selections to optimize color richness & detail, which can involve upscale software and photoshop. Then you have to figure out how best to orient the selected images together, deciding which ones to crop or expand (usually with AI). Last but not least, you have to theme the graphic in accordance to the aesthetic.This is all good and fun but it really is quite a time-consuming & exhausting process. Even the simple doodle in the GVC header was a labored effort. It made me appreciate those minimalist contour illustrations of female figures a lot more. I can see why today's design world would rather just go with the low effort Corporate Memphis slop.
>>460255AI slop would be a massive improvement over Corporate Memphis (provided its not AI-generated Corporate Memphis). They mainly go with globohomo flatshit out of convenience. So AI might free them up to market stuff with something less dreadfully monotonous & boring.
>>456970frutiger aero to flat design to this day has got to be one of the worst downgrade moments in technology history.
>>456970None, flat design means no design, the death of design and that paradigm has gone on unchanging for a decade. Every single thing is ruled by profit margins, design cannot factor in to any consideration of pure profit as it is only considered a drag and something where costs can be cut for no real loss. Look at the switch 2, literally zero design work was done for it, literally zero. It was previously unthinkable that you could launch any product let alone a flagship product of a global corporation without trying to define itself through its livery but now, who cares, the retards will line up and swallow whatever crap is offered
>>456971first post and a poltard already made it about trannies jfl
>>458824yes, happened to me with the 80s 90s aesthetic
>>459757pure cancer pushed by uppity coastal fags
If you look at what restaurant chains have been doing, and trust that as an identity, it's "Nothing". Not minimalism, minimalism reduces something to its minimal form, this is "nothing". Takeout cups are solid white. No pattern no chosen color just white. Logos are just text, no graphic. Buildings are blocks, no identifying form. Icons are flat homogenous squares. The more nothing you can add the better. Glass is a good material for Nothing, but white plastic is better. Yoga pants are out, too much form, low cut wide legged pants are better. Short shirts show something, long baggy shirts are better: you'll look like nothing. Color? Blanco. Font? Sans.
>>461791Forgot my dumb graphic to set the mood
A new Coca-Cola logo redesing is coming in.I can feel it.
Gradient/glass design is here to stay I suppose.
Depending on if a country is rising, declining or stagnating, art and general design will follow. I bet to a big part design is a reflection of how people want to feel - it is consonant with the dominant collective unconscious. Sadly even enshittification has its designs and the blandness you are talking about is about seeking simplicity and staying low. You rightly notice that design needs to be afforded, but not only monetarily bit also mentally.
>>461792Maybe the white and the space is about wanting a clean slate and functionality? No color means no excitement, so there is calm, or rather just no strong emotion. Black is depressive so no black. Flat design is about honesty and directness, usefulness. In some sense it abstracts from the object and robs it of its individualism. Just delivering, no chit-chat or bling-bling. No reason to impress, almost hiding, it is without persona, anonymous.
>>461792if you'd ask random persons on the street to design that cup with a crayon, the world would be a prettier place. I bet.
>>462022I realize that everybody is listening to the same podcasts and that using the term "collective unconscious" is considered fashionable, well-read and 'in touch with something deeper' rn.but neither do we need to mystify what is happening in design by using it, nor are you even understanding it correctly.what you are trying to point at is *NOT* Jung's "collective unconscious", but Durkheim's "collective conscience"*obviously* art and design are reflections of dynamics in society! otherwise we would still be stuck doing cave paintings..art history is exactly about untangling these drivers!>okay, so what might actually be the interesting message in flat design and globohomo?idk, but maybe along the lines:>we globally prefer lying to ourselves by willfully accepting to call monopolistic datacenter-gigacorporations-with-insight-into-every-persons-character-and-life by their self-given names à la "social media" and "recommendation system" in exchange for them making us feel connected to the increasingly faceless system of symbols that is contemporary internet.not complete, but a starting point(?)>rising and falling empiressure, cute. we all enjoy fantasizing about collapse to avoid growing up and taking the responsibility of having to change anything. >no need to organize and cooperate with all the other (equally) rotten characters, if I can just lean back and passively wait for transformation through destructive collapseI am used to someone spreading the apocalypse message and I even get it.but PLEASE don't forget to prioritize the less speculative drivers in design development, one of which is that flat design emerged in the global marketing of tech-giants, where it is not just speaking to *one particular culture*, but *all of them at the same time* - so bland, identityless, and scalable that (basically) no international user would feel alienated or even bothered. during a time when children began flooding the internet (via smartphones)
>>462026>don't forget to prioritize the less speculative drivers in design development, one of which is that flat design emerged in the global marketing of tech-giants, where it is not just speaking to *one particular culture*, but *all of them at the same time*So you propose that multiculturalism ruined design? Thats Umamusume pretty derby for you to say, but it makes sense. Otherwise you are quite a fag since youre criticizing me so much.What will be that next design style? Are we ever going to overcome flatness in design and the flatness of the modern mind? Forced immigration has diluted social bonds and controlled coercive democracy has flattened the mind, average IQ in free fall. Design is about celebration, but modern wins are flat. It is a sad state of affairs.
>>462030>So you propose that multiculturalism ruined design?are you retarded or being cute?>plz stop le criticizing me. AND ALSO you are a faggggkekkkk>what will be the next design style?everybody on earth agrees that we are living through what appears to be the least predictable times in all of human history. >climate change>AI>long term impact of social media>(likely correlated) increase in mental health issues>political tension, both globally and locally>lack of children in industrialized countries>at least 2 antagonistic nuclear weapon states being in some way or another entangled in a global proxy war>to be expected increase in cost for energy (energy that drives *everything* we do, mind you)and you ask what the next design thing will be?>Are we ever going to overcome flatness in design and the flatness of the modern mind?things will evolve to basing every goddamn design on the big wobbly line that is yo mommas fat fucking ass crack shake my stupid fucking head lafofl
>>462034Dont give up. Absence means there is chance for reinvaention.
>>456976Some of them, but it's still handy to be able to describe an aesthetic.>>456998They got some of this shit wrong. The globohomo characters under "Flat Design" are referred to as Corporate Memphis. They started becoming popular during the flat design era, but they're not strictly part of it.
>>459757pic rel is that style isn't it? nothing is good anymore ;_;
>>462112Looks like a hybrid of Factory Pomo and Neoliberal Corporate Surrealism. The latter certainly has a stylistic overlap with GVC but the vibe is a little different.
