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TRANNY HATE THREAD

LET'S SHOW THOSE DELUDED FAGGOTS AND THEIR LOVERS HOW TWISTED THEY ARE.
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KILL A TRANSGENDER POS.
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FRY THEM!!. HARASS THEM!!! MAKE THEM SUFFER!!!
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>>29610738
WE WILL HUNT YOU FAGGOT. WE'LL BOIL YOUR TRANNIE BONES.
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NO AMOUNT OF PILLS OR SURGERIES WILL MAKE YOU A REAL WOMAN YOU DEGENERATE SCUM.
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BEHEAD TRANNIES FFS.
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>>29610738
Dumbfuck. to be deluded would entail that you believe some proposition X is true/false despite overwhelming evidence for the propostion being true or false.

Transmen dont think they are fucking males, the know they are females. They have a gender identity that is different than associated sex at birth. They dont hold a propostion or set of propostions that are logically inconsistent, nor despite evidence to the contrary.

you are just literally strawmanning the postion, and it could never point out a flaw in the view because it misrepresents what the fuck trans people say you faggot. youd get absolutely wrecked on any view you hold because you are low iq fuckin dolt.

every sinlge day you deploy the concept of a women, at the gas station, the store, etc.. and you never are checking off necessary and sufficient conditions like "has a certain gamete size, penis, chromosomal makeup". You dont go up to some lady for help and go oh wait bitch before i say excuse me maam lift up your skirt. You dont intuit sex, but you do gender based on a set of characteristics that attributed given some society. you are fucking stupid.
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>>29610774
Tranalog Horror
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>>29610738
>LET'S SHOW THOSE DELUDED FAGGOTS
you know this is just a circle jerk thread for chudjack.party faggots
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>>29610750
reported to the fbi
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>>29611710
Didn't read.
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>>29611828
?
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>DELUDED FAGGOTS
for one that values sanity, this is not a thread penned by someone of healthy mind
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>>29610750
>confirm my delusions or i'll kill you!
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>>29612121
>Using a tranny song called Dysphoria
Heh..
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>>29610794
Show it to every /a/ thread
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>>29612062
this guy is gayer than trannies
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The gem must go up!
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>>29612054
song slaps. hep a brother out?
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>>29611710
>Define gender
>Gender is the roles and behaviors of the respective sex.
>"They don't believe"
They can't transition. That's it. That's the entire fucking point, you faggots always try to play this "but it's their gender identity" bullshit, NO you stupid faggot, their identity isn't how you determine gender, their identity is based FROM their gender.
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>>29612871
Trannies aren't usually gay. Just faggots.
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>>29611710
nobody reading allat
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>>29611710
Not reading
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All you're showing is how unhinged and obsessed with them you all are. Get a hobby.
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>>29614452
Disliking disgusting/retarded people who shouldn't be in decent society can become an obsession yes.
What's your point? It's a valid hobby to work towards shaming and removing disgusting people out of your society.
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>>29614540
>Disliking disgusting/retarded people who shouldn't be in decent society can become an obsession yes.
He said, posting on an incel imageboard
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>>29614621
Uh...thats le bad becauuuuuuse?
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>>29614452
No. I will always hate transwomen until one of them acept to be my girlfriend. No negociation.
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Can someone explain this psyop to me?
I thought niggers were the plague of the western world, literally why should I care about trannies?
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>>29610738
cope harder and die seething, angry retard
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>>29614949
^Raging.
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>>29614936
Look at this board bro.
And you should, ok?
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>>29614949
thing is, normal people don't need to cope.
It's trannies who are coping every second of every day with the fact that they're living a lie most people don't buy.
Look in the mirror
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>>29611710
found the faggot
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>>29610738
There's this dude who walks past my office every day who's usually in some super tight mini skirt and crop top but everyone always noticed he would cross the street to walk past our building, then crosses again just after he passes. We couldn't figure it out for like 2 years. Nobody knew who he was. Never interacted with him. We knew of no reason for him to avoid our building. Nothing. Then one day I'm walking into the office from that same side he walks past (employee parking is on the opposite side of the building so there's rarely any reason to be on the street side) and I realize what it is: THE ENTIRE EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING IS A MIRROR. Like you can't see through at all. It just looks like a straight up giant mirror and this dude crosses the street every day to avoid catching a glimpse of himself lmaoooooooo
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what do you expect from butt fucker communist
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>>29614991
Not a tranny, they live free in your head.
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>>29610738
Thread theme.
https://youtu.be/UNaz-0-blyQ
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>>29615094
Nigga shut up.
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>>29613305
Call on me
Music video is one of the classics
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>>29615277
I fucking love how back in the 80s all you had to do to be a successful musical sensation was write something catchy or creative and be some random dude with a $50 keyboard.
Nowadays you need to either be rich or have a million connections with niggers and retards who run the music industry, and having no musical talent or original ideas is a prerequisite it seems.
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>>29615311
Song is from 2004
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>>29612097
>im a mother
this dude rapes his kid
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>>29612017
What show is this from?
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>>29610794
Identity politics and their consequences have been a disaster for gender swap enjoyers.
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>>29615323
The original is from '82.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbKNICg-REA&list=RDcbKNICg-REA&start_radio=1
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I don't like entirety of rainbow faggotry. That includes fags and dykes
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>>29611710
Look at this retard. "mY cOnDiTiOn Is'Nt CoNsIdErEd A mEnTaL iLlnEsS (YET) sO iT's ReAl aNd SoCiEtY mUst InDuLgE tHe LiViNg cOnTrAdIcTiOn I'vE BEcOmE" STFU. No amount of phylosophical approachments or self validating lies will changue the fact that you're a tiwsted insane man.

>>29612403
THANK YOU. TAKE 50 MORAL COINS YOUR EARNED IT.
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GOD BLESS YOU, GOD FUCKING BLESS YOU FOR FIGHTING THE GOOD FIGHT AND STANDING UP FOR WHAT'S RIGHT, FEAR NOT BROTHER, FOR I AM HERE TO ASSIST YOU IN OUR GLORIOUS CRUSADE AGAINST THE TRANNY MENACE, SHOULDER TO SHOULDER, SIDE BY SIDE, BROTHERS IN ARMS, WE SHALL FIGHT THEM RELENTLESSY DAY AND NIGHT WITH COURAGEOUS VALOR AND AN UNYIELDING DEVOTION UNTIL EVERY SINGLE SUBHUMAN TRANNY FREAK IS SENT BACK TO THE FIERY PITS OF HELL, BACK TO THEIR MASTER BAPHOMET, WE SHALL GENOCIDE THE ETERNAL TRANNY AND REJOICE UPON THEIR MASS GRAVE HALLELUJAH
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WHAT IS A TRANNY? I WANT YOU TO ASK YOURSELVES MY BROTHERS, WHAT IS THIS CREATURE THAT WILLINGLY MUTILATE ITSELF, THE PERFECTLY HEALTHY BODY HE HAS, IN PERSUIT OF MASQUERADING AS THE OPPOSITE GENDER? WHAT IS THIS FILTHY PEDOPHILIAC MONSTER WHO INSISTS UPON FORCING ITS DEGENERACY AND FETISHES UPON INNOCENT CHILDREN? IT'S SCUM I TELL, SCUM, AN ABOMINATION, VERMIN, PARASITE, INSECT, REPULSIVE HIDEOUS UGLY SUBHUMAN, A MUTILATED CRONENBERGIAN FLESH GOLEM WORSHIPPING AT THE ALTER OF BIG PHARMA, OBEDIENT GROVELLING LITTLE PAYPIGGIES WHO EXIST TO ENRICH PHARMA CEOS, JEWS, CORPOS AND THE BILLIONAIRES THEY SUPPOSEDLY HATE, COMMUNIST HEATHENS WHO WOULD BE SHOT TO DEATH BY THEIR OWN COMRADES WERE ALIVE TO SEE THEM MAKING A MOCKERY OUT OF THEIR MOVEMENT, DELUSIONAL MENTALLY ILL FREAKS, TWISTED AND DESTROYED, SACRIFICES AT THE ALTER OF MAMMON, IRREDEMABLE MONSTORUS BEASTS AND WORMS WHO MUST GET GENOCIDED, SHOW THEM NO QUARTER, CLEANSE THEM WITH A WHITE HOT FURIOUS MERCILESS VENGEANCE AND GIVE THEM THE TASTE OF JUSTICE, CRUSH THESE INSIGNIFICANT INSECTS BENEATH YOUR BOOTS AND PAINT THE STREETS RED IN THEIR FILTHY AIDS RIDDLED FILTHY POZZED BLOOD
TOTAL TRANNY GENOCIDE SIEG HEIL
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SAY IT LOUD, SAY IT PROUD
I HATE TRANNIES
TRANNIES ARE SCUM
TRANNIES ARE VERMIN
TRANNIES INFERIOR
TRANNY LIVES DON'T MATTER
TRANNIES ARE PATHETIC
TRANNIES ARE DELUSIONAL
TRANNIES ARE STUPID
TRANNIES ARE SUBHUMAN
TRANNIES DON'T DESERVE RIGHTS, RESPECT, LOVE, KINDNESS OR DECENCY
TRANNIES MUST GET TREATED LIKE THE PIGS THEY ARE
ALL TRANNIES ARE SOULLESS PEDOPHILES
TRANNIES GET MOLESTED AS KIDS AND THATS HILARIOUS THEY DESERVE IT
TOTAL TRANNY DEATH
TOTAL TRANNY GENOCIDE
TOTAL TRANNY OBLITERATION
TOTAL TRANNY DEFEAT
TOTAL TRANNY DESTRUCTION
TOTAL TRANNY CLEANSING
TOTAL TRANNY PURIFICATION
TOTAL TRANNY REMOVAL
WE SHALL KILL, TORTURE, MUTILATE, MAIM AND DISMEMEBER ALL SUBHUMAN TRANNIES FOR FUN AND LAUGH AT THEIR MISERY, WE WILL REVEL IN YOUR PAIN AND RELISH YOUR TEARS OF ANGUISH YOU DISGUSTING FILTHY MUTILATED SODOMITES
TOTAL TRANNY DEATH
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>>29615088
Wow. Yikes. I hope you get fired, fucking bigot
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TRANNIES MAKE ME SICK, IMAGINE BEING SUCH A DISGUSTING PERVERTED MENTALLY ILL PATHETIC FAGGOT YOU THINK DRESSING UP, RUINING YOUR HEALTHY GENITALS, LISTENING TO TAYLOR SWIFT AND MOLESTING KIDS CHANGES YOUR GENDER, WHAT A BUNCH OF SAD MISERABLE PATHETIC CUCCOLDS, CIRCUS FREAKS ALL OF THEM WE MUST LOCK THEM UP IN CAGES AND LAUGH AT THEM, WE MUST TORTURE TRANNIES TO DEATH LIVE ON CAMERA AND CHARGE PEOPLE MONEY TO VIEW IT FOR THE GENERAL PUBLICS ENTERTAINMENT AND ENJOYMENT
TOTAL TRANNY GENOCIDE
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TRANNIES ARE INFERIOR SOULLESS PIECES OF SHIT, SACKS OF MEAT AND BLOOD, TOYS BORN TO GET TORTURED TO DEATH FOR OUR AMUSEMENT TRANNIES ARE NOTHING BUT PUNCHING BAGS, THEY EXIST TO SERVE US AND MAKE US LAUGH BY SUFFERING AND DYING, PUT THEM IN THEIR PLACE, REMIND THEM OF THEIR PURPOSE, MAKE THEIR LIVES LIVING HELLS AND SHOW THEM WHO IS SUPERIOR, GO SCORCHED EARTH ON TRANNIES
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>>29612650
Is the last vid brianna ghey?
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FOR AS LONG AS I HAVE BREATH IN MY LUNGS, BLOOD IN MY VEINS AND A BEAT IN MY HEART I SWEAR ON EVERYTHING I HOLD DEAR I SHALL FIGHT AND BULLY EVERY SINGLE SUBHUMAN TRANNY TILL THEY ARE ALL FUCKING DEAD, TRANNIES ARE LITERALLY SHIT AND TURDS, KILLING THEM IS LIKE FLUSHING THE TOILET
TOTAL TRANNY DEATH
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>>29612092
Not only he attacked him first but he clearly wasn't even physically disabled
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>>29615703
This, fuck trannies for ruining my innocent fetish.
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>>29610794
Anyone have the full version of this? Absolute gem
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>>29617355
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>>29610738
Based thread
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>>29614621
>He said, posting on an incel imageboard
I thought this was a Mongolian basket weaving forum.
Have I been at the wrong place all this time?
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I don't understand how trannies became the big thing to argue about when they're like 0.001% of the population, why the fuck did the democrats double down on identity politics and now I'm going to lose my job because of tarrifs who cares about trannies holy fuck I've never even met one
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>>29611710
I read it all pal.
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>>29618758
beta bitch throw lol
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>>29618758
Golden goose. Ever since 1991 the two parties have had to find new things that people care about to get elected. Republicans have generally stayed with fighting external problems. Dems have generally stayed with domestic issues. But the well for those problems is drying up. There was 9/11. That gave it to Rs for a while. That couldn’t last. Floyd gave the Ds the initiative back with the domestic issues. But even that supply doesn’t meet demand. But reorganizing all of human nature to fit the transgender crowd? THATS a huge undertaking. You know why? Because it is impossible to fix tranners problems.

It is a golden goose issue they can run on for 100 years. And, conversely, it’s given Rs the chance to actually pivot their traditional MO entirely from outside the nation to inside. This is the culture war
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Thank you for the containment thread, anonymous.
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>>29618914
every fucker in this thread is a pawn of the American political system, wake up and stop arguing about stupid shit
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>>29614540
You're the disgusting and indecent one who does not belong in a civilized society. You're full of hate and self-loathing. You project your emotional damage onto others because you're weak and incapable of introspection. You're violent, rabid, brainwashed and uneducated. No one will ever really love you because you're utterly broken. You should consider killing yourself.
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>>29618758
>0.001%
false
>indoctrinating 100% of the youth to believe in harmful lies without their parent's consent or knowledge a lot of the time
Truth.
Don't play stupid, faggot. You know exactly what your side has been doing for over a decade now.
It has nothing to do with politics, and everything to do with common sense and not wanting your children told harmful things about the world or of their bodies.
Go educate yourself because you're obviously an idiot, especially if you had no foresight to realize that your job wouldn't be needed by 2025, and so you didn't choose to go into a trade or something that actually benefits society.
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>>29618976
>self-loathing
I'm not a tranny, and I loath trannies.
Checkmate #1.

>You're violent, rabid, brainwashed and uneducated.
That's the leftists who go around shooting up kids in churches, assassinating people left and right to the point of accidentally killing their wrong targets more often than not. We just want to rid the world of your emotionally unhinged faggots.
Checkmate #2.

>WAAAH AD HOMINEMS
cool story, bro

What else you trannies got? Your logic is absolutely out the window.
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In 1000 years, they won't know what your preferred pronoun was. But they'll know if you were male or female.
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>>29618758
Juice
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>>29619357
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>>29610756

I fucking love this song and wish I knew more about it. Can anyone give me some info as to what modern day Arcangelo Corelli composed this masterpiece?
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Obviously they're not women but there's no reason to be so utterly mean and hateful to them.
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>>29619906
There's ABSOLUTELY reason to be mean to trannies when trannies won't accept that simple reality that they are not women (which 100% of them won't accept), and then escalate any and every situation where truth is spoken, and equating spoken truth to being a """bigot""" or a """fascist"""
You don't get to just deny reality, then call those who acknowledge reality hateful names without being hated back. Sorry not sorry.
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Keep Seething faggots. Trans women are women and you'll always be failed men. Keep being angry in your rooms alone and kill yourselves when you're tired. Incel freaks.
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>>29615703
I'll agree there
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>>29620294
I'm really sorry getting a tranny was the best you could do, bro. I'm sorry you've had to convince yourself that your boyfriend is a woman, but mental help is out there for the both of you.
You can just be in a gay relationship. It's not the end of the world. You're a faggot either way, but at least you could be an honest faggot.
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>>29612370
violent scumbag
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>>29612370
What's happening here? Who is the tranny? Why are they picking their noses?
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>>29614645
Because it's a place where the dregs of society get radicalized into voting against their own best interests. If society is a body, this place and fox news are two of the biggest malignant tumors there are.

>Inb4 you're here
Yeah because my state has stupid porn laws thanks to the morons you lot keep voting in, and this is one of the only places that has decent meat beating material.

Now shut the fuck up and stop posting post-nut clarity threads. We all know that this is an aftercare thread for bigots who just busted a guilty nut to trannies. Just be honest with yourselves and like what you like.
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>>29620753
Pretty bold talk for someone who thinks my best interest is children being told they're born in the wrong body and convinced to sterilize themselves permanently while simultaneously becoming life-long pharmaceutical patients.

>Just be honest with yourselves and like what you like
I'm fully capable of that. I actually can admit I like dickgirls, but that's a fucking sexual FANTASY man, not to be confused with fucking reality. Do you not get it?
Trannies are real life mentally ill freaks who have the jawlines and shoulders of men, look nothing like women, and are nothing like fantasy girls with male genitals.
Fuck me, leftists are fucking stupid.

Why don't YOU be honest with YOUR self?
You are a faggot and you want children indoctrinated, manipulated, and sterilized for life instead of telling them they're beautiful just the way they are, ya fucking weirdo.
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>>29610738
facebook boomer tier humor, kill yourself today
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>>29618758
racism happened just after occupy wall street
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>>29611710
LOL!
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>>29620753
Not reading alldat.
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https://youtu.be/9-kj1YopL9s?si=6jRS0HxxKO4GD2-w https://youtu.be/9-kj1YopL9s?si=6jRS0HxxKO4GD2-w □ https://youtu.be/CbjjEbGmjig?si=nzxt7NV7SU4FAZlV https://youtu.be/CbjjEbGmjig?si=nzxt7NV7SU4FAZlV □ https://youtu.be/nYmtwRRih_g?si=tzVBLyDdLRokOURT
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>>29620724
Uh...nigga?
Isn't it obvious?
And the nose part...no idea.
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>>29612062
>my gay is better than your gay
Still gay tyrone.
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>>29621324
The guys getting hit look like normal dudes to me, do you mean to tell me the assailant is a filthy troon? Why are they just sitting down and taking it then? The tranny is a sissy faggot bitch, just get up and curb stomp it.
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>>29621369
Well...the uploader that posted this video said they're troons, and they have piercings and look like faggots...so
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>>29611710
nice blog post, fucking faggot.
go dilate more.
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>>29621395
I think they are just average zestlords, probably not even fags let alone troons, meteosexuals getting bullied, I presume it takes place in a place like an eastern European country, maybe Russia. Good nontheless, anyone who has piercings/tattoos/dyed hair is a communist who deserves to get exterminated.
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>>29621414
Yea probably.
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>>29612092
"suck dick for cock!" guy made me lol hahahahaha
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what do you guys think about pooners? we deserve hate too :(
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bumo
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bump
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>>29617537
The final fucking "URGHA" always get me
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>>29621665
Gem
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>>29619133
I'm not going to have kids, I'm not going to groom kids, and my job is in auto manufacturing. trannies don't affect me and you're retarded, I agree with you that the democrats shouldn't be pushing this shit
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>>29611710
Didn't read and I can still tell you're a faggot
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>>29615372
Naruto
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>>29622831
What you don't understand, you disgusting subhuman inferior piece of shit tranny, is that we don't need a reason to hate you and want to kill you, we just think you are obnoxious, ugly, pathetic and fun to bully, we get pleasure from ruining your life and no amount of cucking out over politics and seething is going to change that, you subhuman trannies are finished. TOTAL TRANNY DEATH
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>>29615703
Yup. The days of it being an innocent fun absurd gag are over.
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>>29620724
The guy on the left got his nose piercing ripped out, the guy on the right is trying to take his own nose piercing out before it gets ripped out too
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>>29622966
I'm not a tranny though, I'm a normal man, a biological male living my life as a male. You anti-trannies are just as obsessed as the trannies, you're not listening to anything I'm saying
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>>29623069
I get this somewhat. I’m disgusted by it too but I’ve known a few people ftm and just see them as sick people who are being basically experimented on by quack doctors.

I will get aggressive about it if one of them says crazy shit online making excuses for it but I’m also not a psychopath who likes picking on easy targets. I sympathize with their fucked up lives in a way. They’re just people at the end of the day.

The people responsible for these threads are essentially just bullies, and let’s face it nobody likes a bully.
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>>29620724
They're a gay couple and one is FTM.
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>>29615703
>gender swap enjoyers
You're literally AGP
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>>29610794
Video interpolation is like the worst thing since scented tissues.
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>>29622831
Why does it have to affect you personally for you to be against something that negatively affects your society?
Is it because you don't give a shit about anyone in your society except yourself, ie you're a selfish piece of shit?
Countless children are being indoctrinated and permanently harmed. Do you not get that?
Children and naive adults are being convinced that they're "born in the wrong body" and to sterilize themselves for life.
To bury your head in the sand because you personally don't happen to be a child or a naive person affected by this liberal agenda is the epitome of being a coward and complicit with degeneracy, and I'd gladly bully you the exact same as I bully trannies to help shame and remove degenerate pieces of shit from society.

>>29623292
>let’s face it nobody likes a bully.
I like bullies. I think bullying needs to happen more often to toughen up our pussified modern society full of weak fucks from the horrible anti-bullying efforts done in schools.
People turned out just fine when bullying was still around.
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>>29611710
You're right about the delusion part but wrong about this :
>every single day you deploy the concept of a women, at the gas station, the store, etc.. and you never are checking off necessary and sufficient conditions like "has a certain gamete size, penis, chromosomal makeup".
Nobody does a full check of all sex characteristics, that's true. But what they do is that they use gender (hair, clothes etc...) as a proxy for sex, because most of the time, both align. If people could view chromosomes, genitals and so on through clothes and skin they would not use this gender proxy. An analogy with water : we can define water as "liquid H2O", that doesn't mean that we check for that precise molecule when we shop for water, we use proxies : how transparent is the liquid and what's written on the bottle. At the end of the day it's a philosophy of language problem and as long as people meant "adult human female/male" for "woman/man" then that's what the words means.
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>>29610738
bump
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>>29620294
Comfy deluded mental illness
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>>29621311
The dude yelling about nazis sounds exactly like a South Park character
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>>29624465
Lol.
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>>29623972
Hungarian flag?
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>>29612755
Post this /u/ too
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>>29612124
The fuck is going on here lol
Is he stabbing him or what?
What's the story
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>>29612370
What is this random off-topic garbage
50% yourself
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>>29621512
More off-topic slop, kill you're you are you'rerself.
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>>29624428
>>29623979
More off-topic crap, KYS
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I am bumping the thread only because trannies are actively ruinning my futanari fetish.
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>>29612062
based homosexual
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>>29624428
>calls the dog sonnuvabitch
nice
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>>29610738
UHHH BASED THREAD?
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>>29621324
>>29621369
>>29621414
It's definitely eastern Europe, i think it was the Czech Republic if i remember correctly.

But yeah, eastern Europeans don't have a good relationship with male piercings, even girls aren't allowed to have them, earpiercings perhaps but nothing more than that. They view it as a prostitution/gay secret code thing.
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>>29622575
Don't have the image but I just thought of this one:
>Do you know why it's called "Deadname"?
>It's because it's the name that will be in your grave when you're dead.
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>>29610756
gemmy
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>>29610738
Bump for tranny hate
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>>29610738
There's cuccky right where he belongs. Keeping up this same thread as ordered. Good boy. Good bye.
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>>29627927
Kek
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>>29624891
TERF flag
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>>29610738
Why are they like this?
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saved
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>>29619357
Holy shit the deep ass man voice as soon as it gets triggered LMAO. Like a demon going mask off
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>>29610738
If we find a way to save/cure them from their homo virus it would be better than this.. or if at least they cooperated a bit...



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