Previous Thread: >>8759191Discuss the Guilty series by Seto Yuuki. The previous thread reached its limit, so here's another one.
Didn't some anon already start one?He was complaining about it though but her, it was a discussion alright.
dunno... seto wouldn't let Prez and MC end up together.so you guys should stop shipping MC x Prez and wasting your time and feelings like chitose. He created this bitch to make MC her slave.
>>8769053Since the premise of guilty is "I wonder if I'll be able to keep loving you, even if the person next to you isn't me?" and that Uchida said in ch3 that the best sex is having sex while watching the person you like having sex or something like that, I'm pretty sure MC and prez won't end up togher or even will have any sex togheter.Also as of ch3 MC doesn't seem to have many feelings for prez, but he seem more interested in losing his virginity. Both MC and prez had only a platonic infatuation for each other and it wasn't that deep, so I'm not surprised for MC not caring much about prez.The big loser in ch3 is undoubtely prez, since MC seems like he doesn't care about her before and during the orgy, and I would say he's not in the wrong since Uchida is delivering everything she promised: he's having the time of his life.Uchida has schemed all the ordeal to make MC ask prez out to steal him from her like she said to in ch1; for her is probably just a game and doesn't really care about MC, but at least she's being consistent in mantaining what she promised.Prez on the other hand has acted like the most retarded slut ever, so I'm not surprised MC (he's retarded too, but not on prez level) preferred Uchida: assertive slut is better than retarded slut.As of now Uchida has stole MC from prez and she feels more like a FMC; prez scenes were mostly background and repetitive, while Uchida and MC were the center of ch3 in my opinion.The first 3 chapters could be called "Uchida wants a new toy" instead of guilty XDSo no, I don't see MC and prez ending up togheter since the story has to resolve glasses girl brother arc and swim club arc too... and there's also the school festival thing too...
>>8769345"I wonder if I'll be able to keep loving you, even if the person next to you isn't me?"Who Said? Uchida or MC
>>8769025You are right >>8768475
>>8769345Well, he did dream of doing it with Prez when he passed out. It's Chitose all over again. Remember how in the last chapter Chitose got ultra horny while drunk because only then her subconscious would let her accept she loves Hori? Same here but now it's a dude that passed out of an orgasm.I just wish Seto did away with Kido and Yoshizuka. Kido is just there and Yoshizuka isn't hot and her incest plot has nothing to do with the main one.
>>8769355it's the beginning of ch1 after the colored panels, I think that's the premise of the story.In the panels there are MC, prez and kido: prez and kido are walking togheter, prez look at MC smiling and he looks away.
>>8769411If this story ends from the beginning like that.(SAD premise of the story)we shouldn't wait for him to write for many more years. Because in the end, it will end like Chitose (Mc lost the person he loved, etc.). You will be hurt twice as much by the same person named "Seto Yuuki" who used the beauty of the girls he drew to hurt your feelings.Haha! But I'm not really sad about CH3. It's funny how the junior is jealous of his sister, or Uchida who Deep kiss MC throughout CH3 like she's the FMC herself. However, there's still disappointment waiting in the end.
If MC + Prez get back together in the end.I'll buy 100 copies of his book to celebrate. LOL
>>8769466Seto is not a story writer. He recycles the same script.It'll end with Prez joining the sex club and MC moving on aka Chitose 2.0
>>8769697Miren is just the Regional Variant of Chitose. I wasn't expecting much of Yuuzai but even this ended up dissapointing me. Miren had more personality and authonomy (Chitose is a low bar, but still), and now it's the same fucking thing: she sucks a dude, a girl gets some action with her, then she becomes lobotomized and loses any semblance of being an actual character.I'm not expecting "House of Leaves" in a hentai doujin but come on, Hinamix looks like a deep character study and timeless story compared to this.
>>8769731Artist is old and wants to cash cheques.This formula hits and brings the money.
>>8769466>>8769697>>8769731Well, I wasn't expecting a happy ending from the premise, but at least I'd hoped for the story and characters to be consistent: prez is just a petty whore and MC just a horndog that wants to lose his virginity...That's how much they are characterized in 3 chapters, but prez in ch3 goes even lower by having just a sentence about continuing sex mid orgy and let's not forget that it supposedly was her first time and she was being double teamed. She becomes just a mindless cum dump XDI fear the next 3-6 chapters to be a rehash of the first 3 with incest and swimclub storyline.I wasn't expecting much from the beginning, but I think it will be much worse than Chitose: if the setup for Chitose was dumb, the setup for prez to become a cum dump is even more retarded XD
the plot would be salvable if it turn out to be like school days where prez become yandere and going toe on toe against uchida but it feels like i'm asking too much for nip artist to deviate himself from a genre that've gotten him a goldmine.
>>8769987Oh, I would really love to see that, at least it would become a comedy XDFor now it's just a generic story you can find in any one shot hentai...
Why pity the MC?He got to have raw sex with the number 1 & 2 most fapped to girls in the whole schoolHow many dudes did he cuck by having sex and creampieing them
>>8769994He's not that pitiful now. But in the end it's like Chitose's story. In episode 3, he fucked Darkhair sister until she gave up. But in episodes 4-5 there weren't any scenes of him fucking any girl? I think this story is probably the same. The only thing that's different from the previous story is Uchida. She once told Prez in the bathroom that she wanted MC (MC is cute, so kind, etc.). She usually hides it with the words "just kidding".
>>8769731>>8769947I stand by my claim that the blowjob scene in Chapter 2 is what destroyed any chance this story had of working. That was when Miren first showed signs of character devolution, and it was done in the worst way possible. Had chapter 2 happened exactly the way it did, but without Miren's blowjob scene, chapter 3 would have worked better. The gap in time between chapters 1 and 3 for Miren would have led us readers to reasonably assume that events similar to the karaoke scene occurred before the orgy in chapter 3. It's was just too random and character destroying, Seto shouldn't have published it in the final release. His question about whether that was her first time also eliminated the small chance that they had her practice at some point after the karaoke scene, which would have been the scene more reasonable.
>>8769025Because he used the Japanese name and most anons couldn't find it by searching. I don't know if it was meant to be quirky, but why remake the thread under a different name?
>>8770035I’m totally with you on that, what was dumb before became utterly retarded with that blowjob scene.I think the author was trying to portray Uchida machinations to steal MC from prez (not that there was much to steal anyway, since MC seems to not care much for prez anymore in ch2) and that it was her that orchestrated even that.Practically it seems the author wants to convey that the karaoke was orchestrated by her (and it was obvious when she said that she wanted to change things a little to kido and aoyama), but he went overboard with the blowjob.The fact that the 3 chapters happen in 3 maximum 4 days doesn’t help, since it just seems that prez becomes dumber and dumber the more time passes.I say that if it was the plot of a one shot it would’ve been fine, but as a setup for a story it is just dumb.Let’s wait for prez dp next arc and gangbang in the last one (if the author will even do 3 arcs), since I think that’s what will happen seeing how the story is progressing XDThis story is just dumb and badly written; MC and prez are just retarded and I don’t think the author will be able to write anything consistent seeing what he did with chitose.
>>8769947Prez is worse than Chitose. Chitose had as an enemy the story itself. Prez was shown to have a mind of her own in the first two chapters. Chitose said "no" to be fucked by Taka and he still did, Prez willingly agreed to become a toilet.
>>8769994Number 2 most fapped? Yoshizuka is a nobody, heck, even the guys who find her cute think she's a creepy weirdo. And she's not even remotely close to being as hot as Uchida or Miren, or Swim Club Girl. Heck, Uchida is less of a slut than Yoshizuka ironically.
This whole story is just dumb. Seto had the direction locked in from the start, MC’s monologue in chapter one already showed that. But I’ve got zero interest in the plot. I’m only here for Seto’s art style. The unfortunate thing is, most Japanese readers are into this kind of dumb setup, so Seto keeps drawing it.
>>8770096I'd say, since the end of ch1 and blowjob scene in ch2, prez didn't have much of a mind of her own anymore XDShe and MC are written so badly that all that remains in this story is the art... it's just that bad both as the setup and the characterization...
Honestly, I'm still sad about Chitose even after all these years. This new one will definitely hurt me again. If I'm still curious!and come here to see the spoilers. I hope Chapter 4-9 I won't be here anymore.
The designs in this are so shit man the MC and the guy having sex with FMC are literally the same except the directions the hair swoops go in
can someone unwash this shit for me? whats the plot about heard it was like chitose but worse
>>8770507you aren't wrong but somehow I don't think he gives too much of a shit about how the guys look anon
>>8770426This your chance to quit before it's too late, since recent one proven to be a whack. i'd call it a luck if it could manage to be as long as intended or ended prematurely like chitose did.
Come on, is he going to do the same plot again? Have you guys seen the spoiler for the ending? Where did you guys get the storyboards?
>>8770508the plot is very simple:a slut (prez) and a horndog (MC) are invited in a sort of sex club by other 4 guys. All of this is a plot by another slut (uchida) to get a new toy for her (MC) and a new toy for the guys (prez).There is no rape, no NTR, no anything for now: the characters are just dumb and the events that happen in the story retarded.The only thing good about this piece of nothing is the art: the plot and characters are just that bad.
>>8770507Even the girls are disappointing. Put a ribbon on Prez and she's Chitose (not that Chitose's design is bad, but the copy is blatant).Uchida is basic, Yoshizuka is like a fast food product: looks gorgeous on the covers and promos, is absolutely "meh" in reality. Swimsuit chick is by far the hottest and nothing's been done with her.
Why do people care so much about the story of this doujin? When you're on /h/ you don't usually expect the discussion to be about the plot... It's like complaining that a porno had bad acting out of the sex parts.
Anons... this is a common plot in hentai now>MC and FMC have mutual crush but could never confess>slut MC gets first blood on MC (blowjob, sex)>FMC gives up her first blood to random groupies>ITS OVER .JPG[spoiler]i actually don't care about plot as long as Seto Yukki gives us god tier art. The art where the MC is about to cum inside, only for the girl to stand up at the last moment and having the second girl taking cumshot in her mouth is gold [/spoiler]
>>8770848people here get mad because the long wait isn't worth the fap, they expected NTR panel such as impacful deflowering scene , instead what they've got is the supossed cuck mc being eaten alive in heaven by two hot cunny while prez got sidelined.kekbesides, Ntr need some kind of build up between mc and fmc but so far the plot kinda messed up which was a failure from the start.
>>8769396>Yoshizuka isn't hot and her incest plot has nothing to do with the main one.It's got everything to do with the plot because while I don't think Seto Yuuki is gonna draw actual incest (if I remember right he only ever draw 2 stories with incestuous elements) I think her brother and his friends will fuck Prez while MC goes hard on the sister. It's really simple actually, not sure why you can't see it.
>>8770587>no NTRWrong. It doesn't matter if both the heroine and MC are pussies. Not every NTR story has to be about some fat oji-san dominating the girl and her putting up double peace signs to humiliate the MC. >>8770950Do not reply to those kind of shitposts. They're not here to add anything to the discussion.
>>8770987>It's really simple actually, not sure why you can't see it.Did he insult your incestuous slut subhuman waifu or something?
>>8770879I think the problem people are having with the story is that the characters are acting weirdly from how they are presented initially without having time or situations that make them change (3 days have passed from the beginning of the story and the situations are way too dumb):MC is presented as kind, dependable, serious, supposedly with a crush on prez, but he's soon portrayed as a dumb horny guy just wanting to lose his virginity that doesn't give a crap about prez. It also seems like he doesn't know how to use a phone XDPrez has supposedly a crush on MC, is serious, proud, smart, reliable but she's soon portrayed as a dumb slut. She will fuck anyone just to get back at MC if she thinks he has cheated on her (it seems her dream is to become a cum dump XD). She's such a slut that as soon as MC says he can't go on a date with her she agrees to go to the orgy without knowing that MC was going too XDAoyama is just a generic horny chad guy, ex swim clubKido is just a generic horny dumb guyYoshizuka is just a generic dumb nympho slut with a younger brotherUchida is a slut, but she is the only character that has some characterization: she wants to play with MC and prez and setups the ordeal to steal MC from prez once he asks her out. She has an agenda, objective and gets what she wants. She is the evil mastermind, but in ch3 she feels more like a FMC.For a story that the author wants to last 6-9 chapters and 2 chapters were used for setup, it feels underwhelming having practically a setup that would work for a one shot hentai...>>8771008The story for now seems like a reverse NTR where MC is stolen from prez by Uchida, but since MC and prez don't have any time to really develop feelings for each other, they don't feel that bad when they are fucked by the other members of the group. It seems prez is initially affected a bit more, but MC from ch2 doesn't really care for prez in any way.
>>8768975how does this guy even make a living when he only puts out new chapter every two years?
>>8771091Maybe works a second job like most artists
I like this one mostly because of the casual sex vibes. Kinda like most of his stuff, honestly.
>>8771091He also does covers for Mugen Tensei and other magazines, and works doing illustrations for porn shota ASMR.
>>8771169>works doing illustrations for porn shota ASMRHe's literally the owner of the circle producing voice works, Amfrosch. And only his latest work is oneeshota as far as I remember.Speaking of voice works, you should listen to RJ352792, it has some elements in common with Yuuzai. Hell, now that I think about it the heroines in that are all very reminiscing of the ones in Yuuzai...
>>8771186I'm surprised this doesn't blow up just like Rouka and Nekomugi did with their works. Maybe it's really Chitose that kickstarted his popularity
Seto Yuuki's first and biggest mistake that led to his writer's block is that he made the size of the cast far too large for someone who has never drawn a weekly battle shonen manga. There are too many filler characters.
>>8771091He likely freelances/works as an assistant on the side as most do.
Someone rewrote the story in the ehentai comments, I felt genuinely satisfied after reading it.
>>8771207>kickstarted his popularityStringendo probably got its anime adaptation before most people on this board were even born>>8771220feels like the little brother subplot was just thrown in to reuse “live sex-report of that girl I like” trope he used in chitose
im know im late but these are the scan, will have to depend on 1 of you all to upload this to sadpandahttps://mega.nz/folder/UCwwwKyZ#qTMMI9HruWsaQbaXBYGywA
>>8771518Finally! Thanks Anon, the last full scan was so washed out, it erased nipples lol.Now to get this MTL'd again.
Real FMC LOL
>>8771220>battle shonen mangaYou think we'll see Matsui get his first power up soon? Kido's arc has been slow so far, and Yoshizuka's bro is giving me major "final boss" vibes. Also did you see the leaks about Aoyama Blanco?
I know plot is unimportant shit at these doujins, but I feel the only people complaining a lot are those that expected this to be some sort of average NTR But really... Everyone involved is so horny and slutty that it doesn't feel like such.Like, yeah, MC and FMC supposedly liked each other, but none of them had feelings strong enough to stop them from fucking someone else.These are just doujins of teenagers being horny bastards, and nothing else. And I think they can be still enjoyed as such
I mean sure, I came here to fap and the art doesn't disappoint.But its annoying when its the same recycled plot with the same dumb punchline because the characters are dumb horny kids.
>>8771518It's clearer now, the first few cum shots weren't creampies.Prez is just that leaky and grool-yAnd then, when they did it raw, they started cumming on her stomach /body (but then they put it back in anyway, but that's totally OK with Hentai logic)The part where Uchida teased Matsui about Prez receiving creampies though? That's the cliffhanger lol
Still a no, no matter how you beg LOL
>>8771518Appreciate the share. It’s super clear, tons of detail, but the paper texture stands out a bit too much for me. Not really a fan of that.
Wanted to shout my opinion out into the void so I can stop caring about this. Like usual Seto draws a bunch of pretty girls I want to fuck but wraps it up in a shitty melodrama between teenagers that makes me hate everyone involved. There's also a lot of tongues going into ears in this. Weird. I'll give it a would be great if textless and uncensored out of 10. Anyway here's my prediction on the next chapter:Glasses guy ended up creampieing the prez in that final panel which is then used as an excuse to end the orgy. Cool guy then drags the prez to his house with a promise that his sister will help with the creampie problem and then spends the rest of the night + most of the next day creaming her holes. Back to the mc he's going to school having finally made up his mind to confess to the prez only to find she's not there, rationalizing that she must be worn out from yesterday he decides to confess to her tomorrow. At some point during the day cherry boy hunter drags the mc into another hookup where she'll take some pictures, maybe have them not actually do anything like in ch 1 so the prez's upcoming "betrayal" has more impact. The prez will be taking a short break from her 24 hour fuck-fest with another person when she gets a text with those pictures from the cherry boy hunter. Seeing the mc potentially have sex with another person emboldens her to double down on being petty, firing off another "You're Guilty!" text to the mc before agreeing to become cool guys exclusive fuck toy so that the shitty melodrama can continue. Cut to the mc getting the text where he'll finally realize he can communicate to the prez via phone and ends up sending her a written love confession through text. Cut back to prez's phone where the text is being ignored because she's already gone back to the fuck-fest only now she's being more active with riding, kissing, and hand-holding.
>>8771975Maybe have it end with an image of the mc looking all bright-eyed and hopeful towards the future after finally getting his feelings out there juxtaposed with the prez being lovey-dovey with the cool guy, almost exactly like the end of Chitose's ch 4. After that you can have the mc change his affections over to the cherry boy hunter only to find out she's a slut after catching with those other virgins, at which point he becomes indifferent towards women just like cool guy. Maybe even have him hook up with the swim chick cool guy was pining over to have it all come full circle.Anyway I don't think the mc or prez will ever hook up because the author seems to think the melodrama improves things.
NGL I felt pretty much...nothing from this. Pres is so nonchalant about the whole thing, and MC didn't even gaf. She gets her virginity taken and there isn't really any fanfare or anything. It's the same with when this bitch just randomly agreed to give a guy a blowjob in front of the dude she supposedly likes. Who tf does that to someone they like? Then has the nerve to say to him "youre guilty" when he decided to go off and fuck some other chick. This bitch is braindead. I hope MC loses all interest in her bc she's not worth it. She's for the streets, just another manipulative slut.
>>8770507pres is just black hair chitose lmfao
>>8772449For real. Put a ribbon on her head and it becomes even more evident
yeah, this is chitose remake with more filler in between. maybe seto is planning to put ntr by bait n switching in the middle this time.
>>8772442Well, most of the characters in this are braindead, it's just that prez wins the prize as most braindead character of the show XDUchida is the only character that has a bit of personality and even Yoshizuka has some lines during the orgy, but prez is really the worst character of all 3 chapters; her dream must have been to become a cum dump from the beginning XD>Then has the nerve to say to him "youre guilty" when he decided to go off and fuck some other chick.MC did good in choosing the assertive slut instead of the retarded slut XDIf you look into it, it's even worse, since she went to the orgy once MC told her that he couldn't go on a date with her, without knowing that he would go to the orgy too... XDOh god, this story is so dumb, that it hurts your brain if you start thinking about all the things it did wrong... Just consider this a one shot hentai without any story or characterization and you'll be fine XD
I guess with RJ352792 I can assume Seto Yuuki really likes girls with long tongue and complicated feeling of liking a girl but having to join the group sex and cumming to other whores while your crush is dicked by other boys.
>>8771664>>8772442These are pretty much my thoughts as well.When the characters lack so much agency, the emotional investment they lack is mirrored to me as well. While the mangaka may want to portray the MCs as crushing on each other, their actions are so distinctly drone-like that the pretext doesn't even matter.
For me, it doesn't need to be a super good plot, just engaging enough. In doujins, the plot adds spice to the story, otherwise it's just seeing a compilation of images, and you can do just fine with r34. No matter how good Seto is aty drawing, context is everything in this medium, and he's failed to deliver since Chitose.You don't need to write a masterpiece either, just look at Hinamix (really, if you haven't checked it out, do it); a very similar story. Dude falls in love with a girl who turns out to be a big slut and becomes the student council bicycle: the difference is that it openly leans in how riddiculous and stupid the situation is and takes a humoristic spin that lets it go hog wild with the sex scenes. Turns out her boyfriend is a voyeur and likes to see her getting railed while he also rails other girls, and each of the students is memorable in its own way and they all have a turn to have a solo scene with the FCM before they start sharing her.This dude's gonna release what, to or three more tomes, for what? There are by now two sub plots, and only one of them seems to be going somewhere, and it's not interesting. I thought he'd do something with Yoshizuka, being that despite having the less amount of dialogues, she received focus on her backstory and what others think of her. Nope, she's just a gigaslut and she might fuck her brother. For a moment I DARED to think the plot would take a twist and she'd become main girl or something.
>>8772449Nope. Chitose was it’s a soft girl who couldn’t speak her mind and fell easily to peer pressure.Prez is way more petty. Part of the reason she’s doing all this sexual stuff is because she thinks the MC some of it with Uchida.
>>8772664I was speaking purely visually.
I’m shocked people give this much of a shit about the story, when we’ve arguably gotten the hottest scene in Seto Yuuki career. It can’t be written any worse than chitose. So just expect Prez to sleep around and MC to feel cucked as he bangs slut-chan
>>8772832Nah man, Accelerando and Maybe You're a Beast were hotter than this. The art here is good, but in terms of actual content and sex this is mediocre. There's very little impact to these scenes desu.
>>8772832A lot of people want to lean in to that kinda melancholy misery/dread but I dunno what the fuck they expected given chapter 2, just enjoy the freaky sex ride
I think Uchida planned it from the beginning.and now she got everything she wanted from MC (FirstKiss , bareback)I'm surprised there's so much X-ray scene of her pussy in CH3 haha!
>>8772876Will Uchida cast MC aside now that she’s taken his virginity or will they fully date?
>>8772902It depends if she has finished playing with prez.. she seems to have something against her.
>>8772902She'll cast him aside, MC will they to confess to Prez, but she doesn't care and it's a slut now.
>>8773224Now? prez was a slut from the beginning XD
>>8769345>>8769947>>8769989>>8770370>>8771062>>8772487>>8773849>XD XD XD XD XD XD XDfucking type normally
>>8773849yeah I only just got into this when I noticed the thread immediately before chapter 3's release, all the speculation about her looked really dumb after she just readily agreed to suck a guy off in chapter 2
I don't know, I felt absolutely nothing. Characters aren't interesting, plot is even dumber and whole thing just screams temu Chitose. The art is obviously still good but it feels like I could just generate AI slop using Seto lora for the same effect.Unfortunately it seems that Chitose will stays as his magnum opus despite how shitty and frustrating it turned out to be. And there's absolutely no chance for continuation since he's adamant to keep milking Guilty shit forever.
I know the story’s dumb, but every time I see it, it leaves this uncomfortable feeling, like I just want to help the MC and change how things play out. That’s why I keep hoping someone would step in, use AI or even draw something, and create a completely different version of the story.
>>8773963He's had better stories than Chitose, it just so happens that the story blew up in certain circles here and in Japan; it's far from the best he's done, in fact, I'd call it his most divisive yet. But it sold. People were in it because they expected some sort of Seto-style twist and for the art, but same as here, it was just two chapters of setup, and the third has most of the sex. The rest are just an exhibit of downright frustrating situations (for all the wrong reasons) with boring almost emotionless sex sprinkled in between, culminating with the hentai equivalent of "Somehow, Palpatine has returned."Expect the same here, while he loses time elaborating on the Yoshizuka siblings, who are barely more interesting than Kido.
>>8772876Reminder that Uchida didn't fuck any of the other dudes and remained faithful to Matsui's dick during the whole orgy, while pres got spitroasted and glasses chick went to fuck blondieIn fact, she has not been drawn fucking any other dudes so far
>>8774193No but she does, I mean, everyone knows it. She's even banged glasses girl before
Why people expected a good story out of this shit? First two chapters were indicative this would be boring
>>8775673Something about multi chapter ntr stories gets people in their feelings.
>>8775673Nobody expected anything, half of last thread was Chitose discussion again. It hurt so many people that they're still mad and will rant about it forever. Any other release from Seto will just trigger more discussion of Chitose and how much of a shit the story was and every new work will be compared to it.
>>87689753rd chapter art was such a disappointmentfeels like he just phoned it in, what a letdown
If everyone in this thread seemingly feels apathetic or even hates this story, why are you all still reading it?Art's not THAT impressive.
>>8777056Because this type of pseudo BSS-NTR seems to be relatable to them , or at least emotionally affect them, and so they can’t take their eyes off it.
>>8775716no shit, when you actually have time to build a character up and get people attached to them you care when shit happens. Guilty's still stupid on that front, art's nice though
>>8775673I'm not all that invested in the plot you know.