Discuss all forms of NTS-themed images, manga, anime, doujinshi, visual novels, games, etc EXCEPT:-Content/Discussions about IRL cuckolding / Larping. This thread is only intended for 2D NTS.-Content/Discussions about straight NTR or NTS --> NTR. (This belongs in the NTR thread)NTS with NTR elements is okay as long as it stays NTS.Also: long discussions are okay but make sure your post has an NTS-related image.NTS works/illustrations:- https://niyaniya.moe/?s=tag:^netorase$ (check mirrors if link is down)- https://hentainexus.com/?q=tag:netorase- https://exhentai.org/tag/female:netorase- https://exhentai.org/?f_search=female%3Anetorare%24+female%3Aswinging%24 (replace x with minus if you're a newfag)- https://www.pixiv.net/en/tags/%E5%AF%9D%E5%8F%96%E3%82%89%E3%81%9BPopular NTS Artists: https://pastebin.com/KhVhhGMK (embed)NTS Games: https://pastebin.com/Pw97kzWb (embed)More NTS Games: https://f95zone.to/threads/complete-netorase-sharing-games-master-list.90458/https://f95zone.to/threads/complete-netorase-sharing-content-master-list.211290/NTS Twine Novels: https://pastebin.com/gY3SPHbQ (embed)Source: KoKPrevious Thread: >>8753825
I'm gonna commission a talented artist to draw a self-insert NTS scene. I'll do cuckold reporting (with a TV in the background showing cheating sex), and reclaiming sex. Any ideas are welcome.
>>8771798Can't get my mind out of Tsubame and NTS club god i need more and there aren't any series with similar quality. What are the odds of an actual animation happening
>>8771876Tsubame has a live adaptation, but they butchered the NTS vibes and took an ugly cowpig as actress
>>8771908It's so low quality to the set seem amaturish camera work is bland. I mean with all the hot jav acctresses out there they could only find one that looks like a man
>>8771799shota bull and takuran scenario. since it's your commission i don't think i can suggest any characters or dialogue
>>8771876An NTS Club OVA would be amazing for the genre and could be the NTS Otomedori if a studio really tried with it.
Anybody else enjoying According to Sofia? I'm huge fan of this "naive girl doesn't realize she is cheating" thing, specially since there is a willing cuck route where the MC plays along and encourages her.https://f95zone.to/threads/according-to-sofia-v0-03-07-grimagrima.265990/https://www.patreon.com/grimagrimahttps://www.buymeacoffee.com/grimagrimahttps://grimagrima.itch.io/according-to-sofiahttps://www.instagram.com/grimagrimagames/https://discord.gg/BdQyRJZ3We
>>8771950Should we start a crowdfunding campaign and pay studio to animate it
One thing that made NTS club stand out the fact that megu chan is free to explore her sexuality and her shy submissive bf won't say anything.While other nts just seems like the wife is putting up with it or not explored as well. Once the bf gave her the permission it open the pandoras box and she does it with multiple menAnd the fact that she only jerks her bf off could be that bf can't stay hard enough to satiafy her and she doesn't wait for him to get hard again i guess i enjoyed that soft humiliation aspect
>>8771962I guess i misread it it was he doesn't last long so she only gives him handjobs
Double vaginal where the cuck can feel the bull's pulsing cock as it impregnates the wife...
Keep text spam to a minimum, or at least post pictures related to the thread. Or use Discord to argue about things.
>>8772295I would eat her creampied pussy
>>8771953buy an ad
do you think cheating/cucking/netorasing is more casualized among zoomers? when I ask women around 30 they say they would never cheat and find it weird that I would want them to, when I asked a 20yo on a date the other day she just said "it's not cheating if you want it"
>>8772700Poly relationships are maybe more normalized in some younger cultures. Overall I'd think regular monogamy is still the same though.
>>8772700Interesting question. I haven't actually talked about cucking with zoomer girls but I wouldn't be surprised if they were more open to the idea on average than millennial women, though I expect it'd still weird out the vast majority of them.The specific form of cucking is here too. Asking their thoughts on an open relationship and asking them if they would be alright with fucking another man and letting you watch are quite different.
>>8772759rather than "cucking" in itself, open relationships are a bit more accepted nowadays but that remains a minority and a taboo for many people.
>>8772777It seems to be less open relationship, and more lack of commitment.
>>8772777>>8772800No woman wants to marry a man that would share her with another man, BUT they feel safer having a man around, so they keep a cuck until they find a REAL man.ORThey get knocked up by real men but they leave her so she gets a cuck to provide for herself and her children
>>8771953I usually steer clear of wegger slop but sofia's design is nice. definitely needs more content before recommending to others. One complaint is that it's mostly anal focused, people not into that like myself probably won't enjoy it too much
The premium novelai had a new update. The textgen is amazing. I've made a yandere NTS wife who can't live without me and cucks me lovingly while killing off all the bulls that want to steal her away from me!
>>8773030I'm tempted. It's about time for me to decide which slop I should subscribe to and that's exactly the kind of thing I want.
Finally waked up from weeks long coma, I am bringing you another comic strip.
>>8773316love this trope of a pornstar wife. yeyebirdie has a series pretty close to this, though it's more like ntr-->nts
>>8773366Do you know the name of said series and where to find it?
The Yoru mac characters are my favorite netorase. I wish there was more
>>8773383
>>8773384Here is the young couple unsure on whether to proceed or not, nervous on their first experience while the more experienced couple eases them into it.
>>8773385So lewd!
>>8773383swinging is a weird grey area, sometimes it's super hot and other times it's a bit boring. I think it's best when the other guy is a way better sex partner than the husband.
>>8773030Maybe you could use that to continue Muse and share it with us.
What do you guys think is superior, letting someone fuck your bride BEFORE her wedding, or fucking her AFTER her wedding but before you get to?
>>8773586Secret marriage of the wife and bull after the ceremony with you, and you get to watch them consummate
>>8773729Kill yourself
>>8773586Both are hot, but the later is more symbolic
>>8773747>reee why is another man fucking my wife in a cucking thread
>>8773780No braindead retard, it's about the bull becoming the husband of your girl. Holy shit some people are low iq here.
>>8771876anyone have any ideas on when part 2 will be finished?
>>8773729kek
>>8773729based!
>>8773436I am not a fan of swinging either. It's dynamic where both couples have cuck and cuckquean who likes to watch their loved ones have better sex with their sex partner that does it for me
>>8773903You just described swinging lol
New NTS came out. It's consented cheating sex from beginning to end. Barely any cuck interactions. Quite mid.
This game is crazy good for a AI phone game, much more dynamic and interesting compared to all the generic ones that blend together. (NTR into NTS peak)
>>8774082>This gamewhich one?
>>8774105NekoNTR
>>8771798are there any well know (and by well known,i mean stuff that's not written for women only) where the protagonist's lover has casual sex with his friend/companion with his consentor the protagonist himself has sex with his friend's/companion's lover with his consent?I think something like this would be pretty hot in a casual, consensual setting,but i've never stumbled on it.
>>8774108ok, let's try it...doesn't work>Error: Couldn't load project data at path ".". Is the .pck file missing?whatever
>>8774125It's just a exe file, weird.. pixeldrain com /u/eH5crRcS
>>8774135Weird indeed, but this one throws the same error.
>>8774140seems to be a pretty common godot error, which makes it hard to search for my specific problem.
>>8774155Actually i'm pretty sure it's an nvidia driver error. update the drivers if you keep having that problem
>>8774082I've been keeping an eye on it since initial release, but it's still pretty buggy.
>>8773586Before and during (sneaking off for quickies during the reception) are hot, but after does feel the most impactful.
>>8774172As I don't even have Nvidia that one seems unlikely
>>8774082First thought was "yeah, sure buddy, it's gonna be the same prolonged bullshit with no payoff until v.9.9.0 in 2029,.just like all rest..." and I'm glad to say that I was wrong and you were right, it's actually quite good, even at this early stage. The technical side of things is also surprisingly cohesive, which is pretty damn impressive. Most phone games are a fucking mess when it comes to UI and message timing/formatting. Only crotisism I can give is that's it has the old "tiny penis MC" trope that, but meh. Will be looking forward to seeing how this game develops.
Netoraserare and Nt00 Yumi ruined most nts doujin for me. Can’t find the same quality anywhere…
how do we feel about incest-nts? I like when it's lighthearted, instead of "dad ntr" (ex: Haruka to Oyaji no Kozukuri Shuukan)
>>8774560IIRC they're never from the dad's perspective, and they're usually goofy, so I never got into one of those.
>>8774549The good ones are rare and also depend on your preferences and what you're looking for but yeah if you're a little bit picky it's hell.
fuggg I was off porn for 2 months but netorase is too ideal, too hot and too comforting :DDD
>>8774082oh, this is pretty good. still not sure how I feel about her being a catgirl but its much higher quality than any of the other ntr message games.
I love my beautiful wife
>>8775576What game is this?
>>8775832愛する妻のネトラセ報告 ―ギャル妻・リアの場合―Aisuru Tsuma No Netorase Houkoku -Gyaru Tsuma Ria no Baai-My Beloved Wife's Cuckolding Report
>>8775576>>8775870is that any good (or even materially all that different from all the other Atelier Sakura games with more or less the same plot)?
>>8775884Mmm... iirc its not too much different, but I do quite like the wife in this. It's far more on the wholesome side of things than normal, but likely nothing you haven't seen before.
>>8775919I have it downloaded and figured I'd play it eventually, but I was hoping against hope that it might've changed up the formula or at least been a higher-quality version
>>8773383>>8773384>>8773385>>8773386This is fucking amazing, why doesn't this artist do swinging doujins instead of weird body horror shit.I love it that the other couple is more sexually dimorphic, meaning that the boyfriend gets to enjoy a woman with a sexier, more plump body than his girlfriend, but as a trade-off his girlfriend also gets to enjoy a taller, more muscular man with a bigger dick.
>>8776098Right? Its the best of both worlds and I enjoy the jealousy they feel, then the nervousness and finally the pure pleasure of being fucked by people who know exactly what they're doing
Does every nts game/story really needs 10 hours of teasing and character development before the girls fucks someone else?Do you really get bored of it the moment the main goal is achieved?
>>8776375>I wanna skip all the juicy NTS bits and just want NTR sex all the time!!!Neck yourself ntrnig
>>8776435Genuinely can't tell if you're too retarded to understand the question or if you're just spurting out shit to start some kind of argument for funsies
>>8776435ntsfags are retarded. More at 11.
>>8776375That is kind of how storytelling goes. If the characters achieve their goal in page 1, then you've skipped the whole development arc, and it'll feel like the story has no substance. In NTS, the lead up her fucking someone else is where the most meat is. It's what makes the sex scenes have meaning and be hot. There's many atelier sakura games and other stories to show how boring it is without proper setup.
>>8776469>>8776464>admits being an NTRniggerBack to your shithole retarded troons
>>8776474I get your point, but I'm mostly referring to stories where the teasing and build up are all there is to it.At least from what I read of anons posting itt, most of the interest is on the setup and once the deed is done then most don't care about it anymoreI want to write my own story but I don't like the idea of doing 90% of the plot about convincing your wife and then just rolling the credits after her first fuck, but that feels like what the majority want
>>8776499IMO, It does get tiring after a certain point. the only problem is, just like with the acts, nobody will agree or even feel the same about where the limit lies.
>>8776499As much as I'd like to play the contrarian and argue for there being lots of to mine after first sex, my gut reaction always tends to be the opposite. I find it really hard for a game to keep excitement after the first sex or two with strangers. Changing bulls and escalation just doesn't seem to be enough.FWIW I personally don't think that's what the majority wants. It always looks to me like the majority just wants more sex, against their better judgment. By all means do write the story you have in mind. If nothing else you'll learn more about how stories work.
Only faggots care about sex. The best part is loving cuckold reporting and reclaiming BY FAR. Anyone disagreeing is braindead and should opt for suicide.
>>8776375Is this specifically referring to WEG slop? If so, there's a confounding factor in that Patreon subscriptions incentivize writers to stretch things out. Both in terms of just prolonging the project, but also because any significant story development risks offending someone, which could lower your income.Netorase Sword Princess had sex starting in like chapter 3 of 40.
>>8776579I do wish Netorase Sword Princess actually included more build-up. As far as the reader is concerned the main girl basically starts that story as a slut who's already addicted to the bull's cock. If nothing else it would have been hot to see how she got to that point.
>>8776375yes the teasing part is the best part of NTS, once they have sex it's over because the tension is gone. WEG niggers tend to drag out the teasing part for too long without any new ideas though and it just dies out
>>8774082Is the NTS route actually good and NTS? I’m hearing that it’s weak and just an afterthought
>>8776635From what I can tell, it's only in this last update that the NTS route has been conceived, so yes, it certainly was/is an afterthought, though I think it still works just fine. She's already awakened to her slut side, but , with some encoragement from her friends, she's trying to test the waters to see if her boyfriend might actually be into it, which would obviously justify her previous actions and allow her to act guilt free in the future. I see this as a perfectly logical outcome, despite it being an afterthought. How it develops from here, however, remains to be seen.
>>8776688sounds awful>fucks guys behind bf's back>teehee let me gaslight you into being my stockholmed cuck
>>8776699Think she only sucks 1 guy's dick, and that's when she was drunk, otherwise it's her friends that are goading her into thinking what she's doing is fine. Basically it's her friends that slowly corrupt her into being a slut, she starts out pretty pure, which I'd argue is half the appeal. That being said, yeah, pretty shitty way of making yourself feel better about being a whore.
>>8776539does it include cleaning? any works that focus on that
>>8776980Yes cleanup is very based. Cuck meals make NTS 100% hotter.
>>8772952What is does that term "wegger slop" mean?
>>8771962who is the artist for this? I tried looking for it by title in all my usual ways but not luck
>>8777492https://irodoricomics.com/Cuck-You-Club?search=cuck+you+club&description=trueChange 'Cuck you' into netorase and you'll find it somewhere. Irodori has tried to delete every copy of this from the internet so it's not in the usual place like sadpanda. Though you'll probably just find some through google or nyaa
>not a peep about the latest Nyatorase or Vulgar Reverie updatewhat killed the hype?
Is it just me or is NTS less hated then NTR?
>>8777584Makes sense to me. With NTS, everyone is at least in on the joke, but NTR always implies that someone is doing a bad thing, and almost always carries some form of negative psychological impact, which is "not very nice" for those involved, especially if they're portrayed as being nice.
>>8771953I don't care how good the writing is, that orange skinned 3d art style disgusts me to no end
>>8777567People have been going giga doomer on the VR thread on F95. It seems like they haven't liked the delays in recent updates, and that they didn't like the mafia arc. People thought the mom was gonna be a new character the mc was gonna fuck and it turned out to not be the case. I think some are also sick of the lore and just want her to go back to slutting it up.
>>8777567Latest nyatorase update is really short. It also feels like dev written himself into a trap, he went too hard an too soon on filthy sex and gangbangs. Feels like there's no way to escalate things besides Kat getting railed with more and bigger cocks (which already are half the size of her). The whole thing is starting to read like generic gangbang doujin instead of NTS.For VR it's pretty much what anon above said.>>8777666I actually like the mafia arc. I haven't played the recent update yet cause >pt.1I've been simping for VR (and still kinda do), but the weg curse of delays and splitting updates has reached it as well
I've also seen VR pushback from maso people that the game is too vanilla. They seethed when they learned that Amelia was still thinking about her husband when fucking other men. They expected her to be full-on slut mode by now.Weird predicament. They put the stag people off by doing sub route only, but they're not going maso enough to fulfill that crowd either. And then dangling the mom as candy and then not delivering felt like it burned some too.
>>8777696It's probably just a case of the vocal minority getting their panties in a twist. I hope the VR dev doesn't change anything, becuase I think it's perfectly fine as is. Think the biggest issue with piece meal updates is that it fowsnt give you the broader picture of what direction a story is going, which kind of plays with people expectations.
>>8777567I'm annoyed with the harem crap in Nyatorase. I like cuckqueaning but Kat has no other reaction than approval when someone messes around with her husband. It's like she doesn't care at all what he does with others.>>8777707Some people are hard set on what VR should have been and refuse let go of that idea.
>gay faggot cuckold hating cucks with haremYou're not considered a human here, nobody cares about your opinion, slice your wrists so your parents can breath a sigh of relief.
>>8777751Sounds like you're the one who should leave. Harem is fundamentally at odds with NTS.
>>8777767>Harem is fundamentally at odds with NTSWhat the fuck?Please, explain.
>>8777767>my headcanon is an objective statementGet brutally murdered, subhuman.
>>8777567nyatorase had no build-up nor story, and once the wife got gangbanged in dubai by the player's boss and his fellow orcs, where do you go from there? so it's already blown its load and each chapter has been limping along, with the dev desperately trying to construct whatever insipid drama/plot he can create.vulgar reverie had very good build up initially but wasn't able to maintain it, and it has a really silly tacked on mafia plot that was always out of place to me, its sex scenes were mostly pretty weak as well, with the dev not being able to fully commit to the wife truly enjoying it or making the context around the sex erotic (latest update looks good though)honestly the only weg netorase game i look forward to playing is from wife to wench, art is a bit weak (but he's slowly improving) but it has great characters, story and cassandra is a great hotwife.
>>8778255Nyatorase still has a good amount of escalation left. It just feels interesting right now because we're going through the introductory arc for the most vanilla bull in the game
>>8777567I’ve finally played Nyatorase and VR because of the constant shilling on this thread. Honestly, they’re so far below the quality of your above-average jp NTS games that I regret wasting my time on them. Finished the latest update of VR and wow what complete dogshit of an arc that was. They couldn't even utilize freya properly, also the ending felt rushed af. Not touching any nts weg ever again.
>>8778299there can be no escalation when there is nothing of any substance to escalate. the player and kath have little personality other than wanting sex and the world is crude and specious with anything that is thrown in purely for tittilation. it's like trying to escalate a child's drawing of a dog on a napkin.
>>8777529Thanks, managed to find it.
>>8778299What you mean by escalation? The MC and Kat already did everything, the story is an instant 0 to 100, there is not thrill or anything excited else to do or see since they went all they way from the start. Terrible type of story for NTS where the build up is the fun part
>>8778387Yeah, Nyatorase is just a glorified NTS tinted scene collector. When the first penetration was raw + multiple creampies back to back with zero tension, I knew anything afterwards would just be boring repetitive slop.
>>8777567A lot of anons are complaining about the lack of build-up, and while i understand anticipation is half of the interest, it's simply too much for audiences to bear. I actually prefer more sex than build-up but that apparently makes me the minority here. I think what nyatorase is doing well however, is a peek into the full cuckolding lifestyle. Almost all nts doujins or games, focus on the early or end stages of a cuckold relationship, either ending when things are just beginning or showing us the conclusion to this sort of kink. Rarely does media actually entertain us with consistent sexual flings that an active cuckold couple would participate in. I remember people being upset that NT00's yumi story actively said they would continue to be in a netorase relationship, that should be the ideal actually. A couple with a strong enough bond to enjoy themselves sexually There doesn't need to be a hard conclusion to the story. there's always an appetite for more sex and that's why constant escalation has killed so many nts projects. The brisk pace is fine since there doesn't ever have to be a totally finalized endgame
finally played RJ362528, and i actually like the second ('bad') ending more than the first ('good'). It's great for takuran enjoyers and she still loves (you)
>>8778405I wanted to like it but dropped it after the first few scenes. The MC is deeply insecure and his inner monologue revolves around getting NTR'd. I personally don’t like this approach to NTS because it feels like he can't fully embrace his fetish from a clear perspective.
>>8778352>your above-average jp NTS gamesDoes such a thing exist? Of the few that are out there, most are garbo. VR has many faults, but it's easily better than the JP average.
>>8778417>vr better than jp averageWell yeah, maybe if your frame of reference is low-effort atelier sakura games. If someone knows jp then there are plenty of decent jp NTS games out there. And of course I’m not strictly talking about the VN format.It’s just not worth talking about because this thread is full of F95 tourists who will probably struggle to even set up an MTL tool.
>>8778429>there are plenty of decent jp NTS gamesNot really, especially if you don't count VNs as games.
>>8778431Well just off the top of my head alone I can think of 15 that are better than nts wegs.Also, no clue where you got the idea that I don’t count VNs as games. I’m talking about both VNs and RPGMs.
>>8778436You do, but I don't, which greatly limits the number of games available.And better than wegs is such a low bar it's not saying much anyway.
>>8778352WEGs are mostly built on a patreon model where the paypigs decide what kind of content they want to see, so there’s never any room to materialize the author’s true vision.VR had a generic Yumi arc and a BBC arc. Both of those were pretty terrible because muh popular trends, with generic dialogue and sex scenes. The game was at its peak up to the beach arc, where the author was practising his true vision without getting scared by his paypigs.
>>8778404I'd kill to get cucked by Belle
>>877843615? Either your definition of NTS is extremely loose or this is a low bar of quality. There do not exist 15 good NTS japanese games. Do list them out though, I'm curious to know what you mean.
>>8777922NTS is an intimate couples activity. She's doing something kinky for him, for him to get off. She's getting sexual gratification from the sex with others and her husband, plus the emotional gratification knowing that he appreciates it. And he's having both fulfilled by her doing this for him. Weird as it is, it's a monogamous kink. If you add a harem setup, then this monogamous dynamic changes. If he's fucking multiple girls he inherently doesn't care about his wife in the same way, and also why would he care about her fucking other men is he's already getting his gratification from fucking other girls? It removes the things that make NTS exciting. It becomes just a boring old harem story.
>>8778645nta but RJ01031310, RJ01365602, nympri, Kiss, Suzuya, and Mijishi games alone are already more than the total number of NTS wegs out there if we don't count 3DCG wegs which look uncanny af.
>>8778652Wrong and purely headcanon
>>8778645It's fine. You should stick to your f95 bubble instead of being pedantic. Feel free to enjoy your stuff, no one's going to judge you on a chinese basket weaving forum.
>>8778693F95 bubble? What? Implying I haven't tried the Japanese stuff.
>>8778661Sometimes I wonder if there's a DAZ VN I would like, but I just can't deal with how ugly those 3D models are. It completely pushes me away. I can deal with koikatsu, but DAZ is just so hideous.
Anyone else hate when 90% of all the NTS sex is only viewable in wife POV? Just played https://vndb.org/v51441 and https://vndb.org/v33204 back to back. I like reporting, but holy fucking shit at least record a video or something.
>>8778715forgot pic
>>8778715>>8778715That's pretty much bound to happen with NTS unless if for some reasons the cuck is always around to watch it directly or the recordings.
>>8778652in real life a harem wouldn't work, but in fantasy you can make believe. and in a harem nts work the guy has more than one wife and all love each other, and the nts play is compounded by the fact that his lovers are being shared with either one or many bulls.>>8778715yeah, some nts just seems like voyeurism with extra steps. also i wish kunaboto did more nts, his women are hot as fuck, could do less with the ugly bastards though
>>8778715Yeah, my interest in stories that are presented like this is pretty low. I guess they're just trying to appeal to as many people as possible, and the cost of adding additional POVs is substantial for VNs.I'm pretty sure there are a lot of straight up ""NTR"" VNs that do the same, which says a lot about the mainstream appeal of NTRZero-budget RPG Maker NTS games are more likely have both POVs, probably because they don't have to pay for voice acting and spend little to nothing on art
So what are the weg NTS that I should be paying attention to?
>>8778852Broken Sky is worth playing despite the nature of it's existence and should be updated within a month
>>8778758>and in a harem nts work the guy has more than one wife and all love each other, and the nts play is compounded by the fact that his lovers are being shared with either one or many bulls.I understand what that means in a harem context, but I don't see how it's exciting or comparable to regular NTS. At that point it doesn't even feel like it's NTS anymore.>>8778759>Yeah, my interest in stories that are presented like this is pretty low. I guess they're just trying to appeal to as many people as possible, and the cost of adding additional POVs is substantial for VNs.It can't be a cost cutting measure because they could just have the husband in the room and the CGs remain unchanged, and they would have less writing to do. I think it's just bad NTS stories written by Japanese who have weird views of the fetish. Probably also a factor that they market these more toward the NTR crowd instead of trying to solidy an NTS one.
>>8778661>KissAre you talking about custom maid 3d Kiss or is it another developer?
>>8778981Yeah. But not just com3d 2. Their previous custom reido and xx na kanojo series also have decent nts scenarios.
I replayed Secret Care Cafe after a couple of years.Before I would have warmly recommended the game, but I can't do that anymore.The game completely stagnated. Almost all the effort in those two years went to introduce to the story two new maids. They are complete unnecessary bloat that don't even have any content or reason to exist. Moreover the brown one is just fugly (the other looks fine). Which is a shame because despite being a koikatsu game it always had a pleasant sensibility for aesthetics.The quality of the writing just cratered. The scene with the girls going to the lesbian bar made me think the game was written by a completely different person.A lot of time and effort is wasted on the shopkeeper, giving her a whole ass storyline.The rest of the game remains the same grind, maybe it's even more grindy.In short, don't waste your time with it.
>>8779748The only scenes I ever cared about were Cynthia's NTS scenes. Unfortunately, even though it has NTS content, it's not actually an NTS game. Since all the NTS content is 'optional' it's not really 'canon' and will never be mentioned or have any impact on the main story. Also, a more personal issue I have with the game is that the MC comes across as kind of apathetic towards NTS, despite being the one to initiate the NTS content.Overall the game is pretty underwhelming from an NTS perspective, which is a shame since I think Cynthia is great NTS heroine.
>>8777584Never seen anyone complain about NTS.
>>8779910I have. It's always NTRfags, though.
>>8779913Why do they hate NTS?
>>8779917The main reasons I've seen them give are that it's boring and vanilla, or that's pathetic and cucked.
>>8779917Cause they're cuckolds into losing the wife? The exact opposite of NTS. What a dumb question.
If the works you shill don't have smug cuckold reporting it's ntrash. Simple as.
>>8779748I don't understand how anyone can play such a boring game. Sure the scenes can be hot, but the gameplay is mind-numbingly boring. Like do I need to go through all that shit just for a scene? Or am I missing something that’s supposed to make the gameplay somewhat bearable?
Bros, isn't NTS without reporting just the equivalent of a porn addicted man who wants their wife to star in a porno? It's essentially just voyeurism but more personal. So that means for something to be NTS, there must be some kind of reporting.
>>8778715I mean if done well it's hot but yeah you have a point. Also, as >>8778758 and >>8778759 suggest it is a way to widen your potential audience. Having it like that makes the wife POV be more like cheating+moral corruption (I added the moral corruption because there's usually an escalation past what the wife initially intends) which can hook enough casuals into at least giving the real NTS a shot. The NTR audience is larger and thus would be a target audience. Also, NTS as a premise is strange, so I doubt you'd be able to get anyone who isn't specifically into NTS to buy your stuff if it's solely marketed as NTS.
I'm yet again going to ask, anyone has found any good NTS/Cuck stories? Since it seems the 200k Mirko story guy was a hoax. And as I don't like taking without giving I have reco myself, "Talking it Up With Jill" you can find on Literotica. The level of writing is what you can expect from literotica, but it's better than nothing.
Nobody has as divine taste in NTS as me. Therefore I jailbroke the new chatgpt and cum to my perfect nts pig wifey
Still the best nts
>>8780258I've never seen an ENG tl for this, but I also haven't looked very hard
>>8780258It was a nice story, but I didn't find it that erotic.
>>8779748100% agree, looks like the dev just milks patreon nowadays, many such cases. Same thing happened to NTS phone, hot at the start, now it's a complete fucking ass. I guess in this genre you just have to do short stories unless you're a really good writer or I don't know, make some kind of a sandbox.
What are some of your most specific/autistic NTS fixations?For me it's the process of the wife slowly letting go of her assumed "traditional' role as a housewife in a marriage when she starts meeting a bull. It's almost like she goes back to her younger self, she starts dressing and acting more seductive and slutty on daily basis and at the same time she starts neglecting her housewife duties like cooking, cleaning, etc. which is caused by her feeling like a teenage girl in love again especially during the first weeks of her new romance. She forgets about this boring side of a marriage for some time while she is having fun with her bull and the cuck is the one who happily takes over those house chores. Bonus points for situations where the wife invites the bull over to your place and it's your responsibility to make the dinner for them and then, depending on whether they like it or not, you are allowed to watch them in your marital bed.
>>8780258I really like the dynamic between the wife and the husband. I hope the author makes another issue with that character.>>8780281It's in the first link of OP
>>8780707bless up>>8777567I finally got to play the new update yesterday. I honestly thought it was hot. The first half or whatever they're calling it was kinda underwhelming, but the second half made up for it
>>8780468The girl pressing her tits against the cuck’s chest and kissing him after she was annihilated by the bull. Her body covered in cum and bruises and stinking like cheating sex!
>>8780468I really like any NTS that leans into showing the girl acting differently when she's with the cuck compared to when she's with the bullMaso NTS does this more often or more severely, but that's not the only type of contrast that I like
Bored of the guy talks reluctant woman into his fetish plots. Where is the woman initiates NTS content?
>>8780777That's a different fetish. Go away.
>>8780780It really isn't tho.
>>8780782You try thinking through it and explain to me how it's different from your average stockholm syndrome NTR.
>>8780783Consent of both parties.
>>8780468I'm not sure exactly what this prompt encompasses, but uh... Perhaps the biggest nuance that gets me the most diamond hard is when a shy wife gets over her reluctance and justifies to herself mentally that she's gonna do something with the bull. I love that internal struggle, that state of denial where she's trying her hardest to convince herself that she has no interest in the bull, not even as a living dildo, but her body is saying she's losing the battle. And then she eventually goes "well... that's what hubbie wants me to do, right? It's not cheating, right...?", and does it.As a dom/vanilla/stag whatever NTS enjoyer, that struggle is what it's all about for me. Some people seem to focus most on the reclaiming, and that's nice, but for me this is the real juice. I love the vanilla aspect of how the wife is ultra devoted and concerned about not being unfaithful to her husband, while at the same time this being the thing he wants to see and her getting pleasure from it. Sadly too little of this NTS variety.
>>8771876Why does she have three arms
There should be more NTS porn of gacha characters
>>8780468I love this, maybe not up to the point where the cuck is completely left out (it's fine if it's part of the play). got any recommendations? both doujins and novels are fine
>>8780785>girl forces fetish onto cuck in 99% stories >le consent of both!Cope and neck
>>8780914Need to get cucked by Jane Doe ASAP
>>8780468I'm generally not strict. The only type of NTS I can't really stand is when it's really masochistic. I don't like when they put cock cages on the husband/boyfriend, I don't like him eating the other guy's cum out of her pussy, etc. I'm just not a masochist so if they go too hard with it then it instantly turns me off.
>>8780468I don't know if it's a fixation or whatever, but scenes where the girl is in the guy's lap/on top of him/holding hands with him while getting plowed. It's even better if the bull doesn't know the guy's there (gloryhole or blanket or something)
>>8781400incredibly baste taste. cum eating/caging/pussyfree atm shit immediately turns me off
Cum eating is hot as fuck, it's freshly pounded pussy with protein. Cages are hot in cuckold reporting if the wife worships it with dirty talk and kissing. Pussyfree atm has no redeeming qualities.
>>8781189I really wish Zeph would release the art without the captions. Literally all the JP artists do it. They're hot sometimes but I like unobscured images.
No relation
>>8781717What is this then?
>>8780914I can't wait for all the cuck porn of Lynae!
>>8781714he's very autistic about people only reading the story with the intentions he had in mind. captions are key to achieving that
I'm not a stagfag but you niggas are funny and I kind of understand the appeal
>>8781741What's the sauce boss
>propose NTS idea to the girl>w-what!? Anon is such a weirdo, am I not enough for you?>f-fine I'll do it, but dont think I'll enjoy it!>h-hey dont touch me there!>becomes a whore in heat>becomes a smug cuckoldress>99% of the time NTR ensuesEven though I enjoy Japanese art the most, it gets tiring how uncreative they are. NTS club and a very few others break the norm. Do I really need to touch weg slop for actual good NTS?
I'm starting to feel kinda sorry for you netorasedudes. Most """netorase""" works I've read lately progress to netorare at some point. Surely Tsubame-chan won't fall?
>>8781816She wont fall because she's Terasu's milk cow. Stays NTS until she doesn't print money anymore
>>8781816That's why this sub genre is so niche among nichesAuthors who have tried netorase go thinking to get both netorare AND netorase audiences.I think isn't just limited to netorase, Haitoku tried NTR in his incest series and it got awful results.
>>8781881>Authors who have tried netorase go thinking to get both netorare AND netorase audiencesand still somehow manage to piss off both despite doing some good art. Just look at the comments section on Mikage's latest work.
>>8781885>comment section Panda commenters are braindead cock slurpers. Take their opinion with a grain of salt.
>>8780785It still reads as stockholm syndrome. So your girlfriend approaches you saying she is interested in fucking other guys, and it wasn't a fetish you had. How do you even take that? In NTS the dynamic is kind of unique because the guy has the fetish of *her* sleeping with someone else. It's not that he has a dissatisfaction with her and wants to fuck another girl, he just has the fantasy of her being slutty with a stranger. When the girl accepts, it's typically as a favor to him, granting him this sexual wish.If the girl is the one saying she wants to fuck other guys and you accept because you feel like your relationship depends on it, that's not an act she's doing for you. It's just polygamy. It's a different vibe altogether.Or did you mean something else? Do you mean he says he has the fetish, and then she just takes the reins and does everything? Because if so, that type of NTS is not rare at all.
>>8781943I do know why you people are so quick to assume that the girl is forcing the guy into against his will.
>>8781811nts always eventually ends up as ntr, it just gets boring and stale if she doesn't start actually cheating
>>8782010L ragebait + kys
>>8782135Canon btw
>>8771798best nts pov?
>>8781843He even shifted course with the Kaya story, turning it from horrendous NTR to hard-domme NTS
>>8782256keep rolling rolling rollingalso if you're gonna roll, post image, don't be fag
>>8782256ehh, the kaya story is still NTR until there's more stuff to confirm the shift. rollin'
>>8782256Terasu really has top tier whores
Here's some shit i did for my upcoming,hopefully still releasing this year,VN. There some mistakes in it, since its still very much bare bones.
>>8782010this. ntr will always be superior since it also has that oblivious feeling to it that nts doesn't
this was the only nts related thing that i ever liked. are there more of it?
>>8782455I like the heroine design she's pretty hot
>>8782455>bull shittalkingeww
>>8782505fym eww, bull verbal abuse directed to the cuck is very rarely seen in NTS
>>8782538Yes cause it's cringe and gay. Only verbal abuse from the wife is hot
>>8782256Roll, i'm a cuckprime
>>8782256Rolling and begging for 9
>>8782598Yeah, even as someone who likes maso NTS slop, this kind of messages from the bull almost always feels like an unforced errorIt would be strictly better if either the message was slightly reworded to be from the girl, or there was no text at all
>>8781943I think it is like an assertive femdom vibe. Woman initiates NTS. Doesn't seem to be a thing in hentai. It is always the man's fetish and talking the woman into it. As for realism, it's a comic book bro it doesn't need to be realistic at all and can be pure unrealistic fantasy.
A second girl "assisting" the couple for proper cuckoldry makes it very hot. Like the bull's girlfriend for example.
>>8782835Of course it's always the man's fetish. NTS is meant for men, not girls. Nobody likes it when his girl wants to be a whore naturally. An unrealistic fantasy doesnt make it suddenly hot. You're either a woman or trans if you like this dogshit.
>>8782732Well, in that scene specifically, there is a reason within the story for the bull to be talking directly to the MC. But I think it would be good to give the player an option of having the bull join in on the dirty talk and be more active in the fantasy, if not outside the sex, at least during the fuck sessions. I think it adds a little bit more zing to the story.
>>8782835The realism is what makes it exciting. If your wife sleeping with other men wasn't such a crazy thing to to, wasn't toeing such a taboo line, then this fetish wouldn't be hot.
>>8782901I love this trope, I think Laliberte had one work with it but it wasn't exactly NTS. You might disagree but I don't like when it's the bull's girlfriend, her domming you is almost like her cheating on him beacuse you enjoy it so much and that doesn't fit the power dynamics. Imo it's way better if the one doing the "assisting" is your girl's best friend, she's aware of your dynamics because she knows both of you and she even shared some of her lovers with your gf. I also like when the "assisting" girl keeps teasing you to cross the line you are not allowed ever to cross which is to try to fuck her.
New NTS gameRJ01453643
>>8782505Agreed, hate that shit, the bull should just be a faceless cock and any more than that and it comes across as something for latent homosexuals wanting to fulfil their homoerotic desires under the facade of still being straight
>>8782943I don't give a shit whether the bull gets cheated on or not, the story is about the cuck and wife, not him. He's a living dildo. And no, cucks fucking the girl is fine too, it's usually a pity fuck anyways. It's cringe if you think there's power dynamics where cucks are always supposed to be some kind of pussyfree atm slave.
>>8782902>>8782932Most porn, hentai and 3D, is based on the male fantasy of the woman being lustful. Basically. How is a man's gf or wife initiating an NTS relationship really a huge departure from this basic fantasy? The end is the same - woman enjoys sex, the only difference is who initiates the NTS/"cheating with consent".
>>8783113She should be lustful towards other men on her man's terms. Not on her own. If she is anyways then she doesn't love you to begin with and there's no point of nts
>>8783123But those are my terms, a female so horny and slutty she proposes seeing other men to her man. Meh, I'm sure some dude in California has already commissioned this type of storyline.
this said netorase in the title.
can't stop laughing
>>8783123She would've regardless proposed that, on your terms or not. That's the issue
>>8783113I guess some people into NTS are only into the aspect of the woman being lustful, but for me perhaps an even bigger aspect is the loyalty. A woman who's so in love with her husband that she's willing to do something crazy and test her loyalty to him, convinced it will have no sway on her, that she will always be crazy about him. If she's the one wanting to have sex with other dudes of her own accord, then I feel like she doesn't love him very much at all, and the whole thing crumbles.
>>8780780So is interracial, yet it’s always swamped in here by Indians
>>8783043again with the living dildo shit, it's so fucking boring, and why would cuck fuck someone else than his girlfriend that doesn't even make sense in context of NTS
I feel like you can't have long form nts because building on it demands escalation which means introducing elements of ntr.
>>8783362duh
>>8783362You can, but have to be very disciplined, and have most of the content on the buildup.
>>8783328>ESLs being massively retardedLike clockwork. Your opinion is disregarded.
>>8783362I don't think it's an issue of genre but rather an issue of writing. Basic literary framework of the setup>confrontation>resolution is already fulfilled if you're doing the standard narrative beats of:>husband tells wife about fetish>they set it up>she gets fuckedSometimes the stories prolong the setup and confrontation part, but basically after the first time the wife is penetrated, that *is* a completed story. Many authors try to go back to the well and think escalation is the best way to continue so they do more intense sex, more bulls, maybe even introduce NTR-conflict etc. but it all kinda ends up being repetitive and unsatisfying. This is why I think anyone who's writing a NTS story needs to decide early if they want to just have a story about a guy getting cucked because just the premise and conclusion of a cucking session is enough. I'm just spitballing here and I don't wanna claim to be any good at writing stories but in my mind a way to expand a NTS-focused story is would be something like this:>I decide on the theme or overall message i.e is it a story about love beyond normal conventions, how is a loving relationship really measured, how far can you take a non-monogamous relationship and still call yourself faithful etc.>Act 1 is the standard buildup up to first cucking session>Act 2 is the couple dealing with the post-nut clarity of the event, how do we deal with this etc.>insert as many cucking sessions in here as you want as long as the main couple is actively working on figuring out their boundaries and comfort zones>Act 3 should be the couple affirming to each other how they want to move forward as a couple in the context of the overall message, then do one final cucking or reclamation session depending on what tone you want to end the story on
>>8782256Hot
What do you guys think of pet names? Like the cuck refering to his girl a "mommy", or the girl calling the bull "daddy". It's very rare to find works with that aspect in it, even outside the NTS community. I'm guessing it's because patreon is a fuck about these type of things, and mistakes it for incest.
>>8782256Rolling
>>8783812pet names for the cuck and girl is greatpet names for the girl and bull is cringe and something for closet cases.
My wifey
>>8784020built for ntr (not netorase)
>>8784020cute wife cucky!
>>8784025Thanks! Time to eat her special dinner she prepared for me...
>>8784030make sure to swallow every single drop of your cuck meal
>>8784036Of course, it's freaking delicious
>>8782256roll
>>8782256rollan
>>8784057>got the best girl>successful cuckold mariagei'm a lucky cucky
>>8773936Name?
>>8784084
>>8784060This is hot as fuck
eww, netorase is disgusting as shit. no wonder ntrgods never liked this faggotry
>>8784161shut up and keep fapping ntr cuck
>>8783812I wanna say I don't mind pet names, but the longer I think the less I like it.I guess 'master' for the bull would work in a maso session
>>8784226>masterHoly cringe
>>8783191>Albedo and Shalltear doing a netorase playGIWTWM
>>8778404>people being upset that NT00's yumi story actively said they would continue to be in a netorase relationshipI never understood this either. Haru and Yumi are a genuinely heartwarming couple that also leans heavily into the maso side of NTS which is super rare in my experience.
>>8782256Kaya, my love...
>>8774123(Taono Kinoko)] Koibito Gokko is the closest I can think of. It's more general swinging rather than NTS, and flirts with the NTR line at times but the main girl still loves her bf.It has multiple chapters but doesn't really have a formal ending. I wish he would do another chapter.
i really like this
>>8784724
>>8778408I agree, but i think that problem is partially due to how short the game is
>>8784841Source for this render? It looks really good
>>8784860https://www.pixiv.net/users/3704781
>>8784860Bangladesh
>>8784724Sauce?
>>8783362>>8783433I mean, originally "NTR" was an abbreviation for all three NeToRare, NeToRase and NeToRi, because often stories mix elements of all three and the difference between them often relies on the perception of the reader. These genres are inherently intertwined because at it's core the element which arouses the reader is the sensation of sexual jealousy.In all honesty, the best is to just let the stories flow as authors intend without wishing it lacked elements of one or the other.
>>8785152Anon please, NTR has evolved and branched as result.We even got Sisters and Mother netorare, the same way Netorase has become strict in it's own way.
>>8785008thentrguy
Goda is back and Hinako's sister is involved now too for anyone that still cares
>>8785506>Goda is backbased>Hinako's sister is involved now toogigabasedWhen's the mom joining?
>>8785506Incredible how i just dont give a fuck about it anymoreI even used to sub to him back when it was still largely teasing
>>8785506>>8785539>>8785541What is Hinako doing nowWhat will Gouda do nowNo more NTS but now hardcore NTR?
How do we feel about cock size comparison and sph? I love it personally as someone with an incredibly average dick.
The Yumi story got rebooted?
>>8785681I think it's incredibly hot, also as someone with a very average dick>>8785682IIRC it's a what-if scenario that's supposed to be more BSS than NTS
>>8785681it's hot, idk why, but something about it just is
Just tried a NTR game to see what the appeal was all about and my heart is brokenYou're all masochistic monsters
>>8785681Hate it. Huge turn off.
>>8785696Oops, wrong thread but still
On the one hand we really didn't need another reboot.On the other hand Yumi is a goddess and I LOVE the setup where a girl discovers a guy's cuck fetish accidentally by seeing the porn he consumes. I've also realized I like the idea of seeing Yumi's corruption from the start more than I originally thought since Haru will also be involved.One thing I think I can safety predict is that this is going to be much more maso than the other Yumis we've seen given nt00 smacked Haru's dick with the nerf bat while giving Jin's a nice buff, and we've already gotten the in-person size comparison by her so expect lots of sph. Also the original Haru got hard hearing the original Yumi talk about Senpai taking her first time, but this Haru is very likely going to get a front row seat to Jin taking this Yumi's virginity.>>8785682Yes. It's a new universe where Jin will get his own Yumi to train and fuck.
>>8785506>goda is backzzz...
>>8785696I think the only way you can enjoy nts is if you believe love can be separate from desire. try >>8778405 if you want to see if it appeals to you
>>8785703Meh i hate how this timeline buffed jins dick and nerfed the mcsIm almost convinced nt00 is gay for this guy
>>8785712It makes sense given his chad makeover, so I wouldn't mind it as much if it wasn't ALSO accompanied by Haru's dick getting shrank. You could have left Haru alone and still gotten the same effect when Yumi compared them, but it's clear SPH is going to be a major part of this reboot so at least the people who hate that shit know to get off the ride now.
Hinako and Yumi are prime examples of stories that should have fucking ended ages ago. Yumi technically did but he's still fucking milking her.
>>8785506>>8785610tldr is while MC forbade Hinako from seeing Gouda again he was fucking her sister, and Hinako by virtue of knowing about it and hearing it when they were doing it at home frustrated her. The other dicks she took just weren't enough, so MC let her fuck Gouda again, no reporting too. Sister took a secret video and shared it with the MC, their pillow talk revealed Hinako said "You're the man I love" to Gouda.At this point the author can either timeloop the sex arc (I was just pretending to NTR you for real) or actually pull the trigger and make the whole epilogue of the sex arc pointless by letting her get stolen anyway. In any case, for some reason the author chose to focus on this one bull as the sex god gigachad abandoning the premise that she is being targeted (by everyone)
>>8785733thank youwish the translation comes soon enough
>>8785743Bro its all padding none of the TLs matter anymore now that Hinako isnt teasing shit
>>8785746he is gonna milk this shit for another 5 months because of the sistermight as well wait but hurry for the TLs
>>8785748Endgame is the bull somehow getting the whole hinako family as his harem while sending MC the videos
>>8785733Is this even NTS at this point?
>>8782256Better late than never. Rolling.
>>8782256ah hell yeah rollin'
>>8785733I think my least favorite thing about gouda is how he went from looking like a monkey to just being a nigga with a curious george haircut. But this is fitting for jap artists since they are genuinely terrible at writing endings
>>8785722i mean SPH was introduced in the main yumiverse at the end of the batsu game, though the size difference wasn't as much as this current series. it makes me wonder if this size difference is just for this series or if NT00 yet again retconned their dick sizes. I wouldn't have minded SPH if it was part of the series from the beginning like Mina's, but it's just weird that he just nerfed haru like that. it'd be like yumi suddenly having inverted nipples or something, which itself is nice, but that's not her body.
Is there any NTS where the bull is friends with the cuck and they hang out together?
>>8785722>>8785877its not that hard to gethe wants a new series but knows yumi makes moneyso he rolls her out again
>>8785883RJ01031310
>>8782256rollerino
>>8782256Trying my luck, hoping for the gyaru or childhood friend
>>8786024>24fucking hell
>>8782256God help me, rollin'
>>8786069Feck
Has anyone had success with carrying out a long form NTS story with lots of build up and sex scenarios using a chat bot? I've tried a few (mainly moistral) and while I can easily force the story to go in the direction I want it to, what I really want is to just setup the setting and characters and then carry it out like a text adventure with minimal intervention in the other characters' actions. The main problem is the characters often forgetting details, key events and even their relationships with each other at times.Am I just expecting too much out of AI chat bots after hearing how far they've come along over the past several years? Or is there a way to do this and I'm just bad at setting it up?
>>8784580she is the cutest i swear.
the japanese need to make a word for swinging so people stop confusing it with netorase already
>>8786156We just need to import more ytpipo so they can introduce their fetishes to the population
>>8786156They don't need to invent shit, they already have literally スワッピング
>>8786156what's the Japanese word for a stag?
Ask your mom.
>>8786168It's not standardized in the least, but ocasionally with more dom/stag/vanilla stories they will use the word 貸出, meaning lending.
>>8786168oh damn didn't even know that word existed
>>8786168kek, gotten
>>8786133>long form NTS story with lots of build up and sex scenarios using a chat botChat bots suck at long form stories in the first place. Even with longer context lengths it's inevitable they start forgetting things they shouldn't, or bring up things that happened a long time ago (in the story) as though they were a recent occurrence. Not to mention the amount of wrangling you have to do to keep the AI on track, which only gets more tedious the longer the story goes.
>>8785681As someone with a below average cock, I love it
>>8786251unfortunate, I wonder how long it'll be before such a story is possible with minimal intervention
>>8785681I like it, but for me it's less about the cuck having a small cock and more about the bull being just that much bigger.
>>8786139real, love that cute nympho
>>8786339i haven't played sine ver .65 but i'm waiting for the full release
>>8785681basically a requirement for me to enjoy nts, absolutely love it, but i also require for the wife to have a genuine love for small dicks as well, just feels wrong if they're that sexually incompatible.
>>8782256Wife please
