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Previous Thread: >>8903409

>LOCAL UI
A1111: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui
Forge: https://github.com/lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forge | Alternative version (reForge): https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge
Comfy: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI

>LOCAL MODELS
Illustrious: https://civitai.com/models/795765 | https://civitai.com/models/1232765
Noob: https://civitai.com/models/833294

>RESOURCES
Wiki: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki | https://comfyanonymous.github.io/ComfyUI_examples | https://openart.ai/workflows/templates
Training: https://rentry.org/59xed3 | https://github.com/derrian-distro/LoRA_Easy_Training_Scripts | https://github.com/bmaltais/kohya_ss | https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainer
Tags: https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/tag_groups | https://danbooru.donmai.us/related_tag
ControlNet: https://rentry.org/dummycontrolnet | https://civitai.com/models/136070
IOPaint (LamaCleaner): https://www.iopaint.com/install
Upscalers: https://openmodeldb.info
Booru: https://aibooru.online
4chanX Catbox/NAI prompt userscript: https://rentry.org/hdgcb
Pony-related: https://rentry.org/ponyxl_loras_n_stuff | https://rentry.org/ponyxl_lora_previews | https://lite.framacalc.org/4ttgzvd0rx-a6jf
Illustrious-related: https://rentry.org/illustrious_loras_n_stuff
Useful Nodes/Extensions: https://rentry.org/8csaevw5

OP Template/Logo: https://rentry.org/hdgz/edit | https://files.catbox.moe/xk99gy.png | https://files.catbox.moe/35bdt5.gif

>Related
>>>/aco/sdg
>>>/g/sdg
>>>/g/ldg
>>>/d/ddg
>>>/e/edg
>>>/c/kdg
>>>/vt/vtai
>>>/vg/aids
>>>/b/degen
>>>/trash/sdg
>>>/u/udg
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Previous Thread Highlights:

TH_26-07-12_-hdg-_a.jpg
>https://files.catbox.moe/ffaf1q.jpg

TH_26-07-12_-hdg-_b.jpg
>https://files.catbox.moe/nsskph.jpg
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First for a bright future with V5 and down with highlightfag!
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>>8912037
go back to /hgg/ troll
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>>8912037
imagine paying a monthly fee for an inferior product because you're too much of a poorfag to afford a 50xx
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>>8912042
Imagine paying thousands of dollars and being only able to gen the kind of trash local is known for
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nais is too good
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>>8912068
disgusting
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>nogen
disgusting
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>>8912072
it's hentai, chud.
don't like it - beat it.
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>>8912078
not all hentai is equal
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>>8912080
post some of that superior hentai instead of crying then
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Why does the OP text not mention Anima?
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>>8912095
Baker doesn't gen:DD
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>>8912095
Anima is a failbake that nobody uses
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>>8912097
I find it so bizzarre; how /hdg/ has itself turned into a shitpost due to highlightfag, while /hgg/ hosts all the other undesirable posters.
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>>8912100
???
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>>8912102
Could you rephrase the question?
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>>8912099
This could have looked really good if noodlekek made it.
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>>8912107
!?
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>>8912099
This could have looked really good if she wasn't a child.
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>>8912099
This could have looked really good if firedotinc
made it.
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>>8912114
No.
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>>8912115
Definitely not.
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>>8912068
box
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Those new Relink expansion bosses are tough, sometimes the captain needs to unwind
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>>8912221
it is any fun? how it is compared to MH?
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>>8912222

Very fun. It's a simplified MH with much flashier combat. The characters themselves essentially serve as the diff weapons in MH.

There should be a demo available to just check out.

And the women are top tier to boot.
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>>8912230
>It's a simplified MH with much flashier combat.
I figured as much, I saw some vids about the combat and there is a lot going on but idk maybe I'll ask my squad to play with me while we wait for the Ascendance dlc
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>>8912235
slut
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>>8912230
ewww her eyes are melting
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>>8912235
box
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>>8912099
This could have looked really good if it was anal instead.
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>>8912288
Not sure, it's WAI...
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>>8912297
>4chan vae
>2026
ishygddt
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>>8912324
woaw...
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>>8912444
lolcal models are garbage, more news at 11
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/hg2g/ when?
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I am trying to replicate this artstyle. I am using WAI-Illustrious. Any idea which tags I should use in the prompt? What about LORAs?
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please bake
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>>8912599
just reuse the troll bake >>8897892
it'll stay up for months otherwise since janny doesn't care
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>>8912598
this isnt AI its too good
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>>8912599
bake what?
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>>8912612
yeah it's novelai
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>>8912613
/hgg/ just fell off the board, so probably that
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>>8912600
great you triggered him into spamming
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>>8912598
wataa
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>>8912616
there was a post half an hour ago anyway, he wouldn't let the thread die
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>>8912618
Is this a model, a lora, a checkpoint...?
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>>8912622
AI twitter dogwhistle
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There's a really annoying tendency to just focus on specific body parts even when I specifically prompt "full body"...
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>>8912640
>anima
(full body:1.5)
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>>8912641
I've genned some decent stuff with it so far but sometimes an entire prompt is just cursed and fucked for no reason
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>>8912642
it's alima
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>>8912641
That's one way, but I've not needed to use emphasis on Anima even once.

The "proper" solution comes from >>8910570; That is, describe her face if it is to be shown, even though the model should already recognize it from just her name. Mention feet if they are to be visible and not cropped out. Add a least "swimsuit", if you want to leave the choice of bikini/onepiece/etc open.
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>>8912645
>I've not needed to use emphasis on Anima even once
you will need to use prompt weighting for some "underbaked" concept tags anyway
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why is local so bad compared to novelai its not fair
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>>8912645
somewhat better I guess. Seems really inconsistent, sometimes I can be somewhat generic and sometimes I have to be really really specific so the AI remembers I don't just want to look at a close up of the legs

Another annoying thing I sometimes have is that it'll just gen 2 identical pictures next to each other, like I'm asking for a model sheet.
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>>8912646
Might be. Let's just say full_body is not one of them.
Do you have an example? Out of curiosity
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>>8912649
Landscape resolution can do that, if you're going without slop bias and you don't specify she's lying, on_side, sideways, etc.
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>>8912652
>>8908498 for example, "colored eyelashes" has 54k images on danbooru, but this tag doesn't work with some artist tags. you will need to either change the artist tag, use lora, or just use prompt weighting.
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>>8912654
I would just go with yellow eyelashes, and not fuck around with the concept tag or trying to have the model auto-match with the hair color
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>>8912655
>yellow eyelashes
have you tried this with an artist tag where "colored eyelashes" doesn't work?
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>>8912656
No I don't have an artist like that, that's why I asked for an example before.
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>>8912655
>not fuck around with the concept tag
Prompt weighting has been a thing since SD1.5, I don't understand how this is "fuck around with the tag" now
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>>8912660
Many concepts have also been unreliable or non-functional in 1.5. You never know in advance if a prompt+seed needs 1.5 weight, or 1.7, or more. And the higher you go the more emphasis you take away from the rest of the prompt, which may end up changing things you don't want.

You're right, if weights work for you then keep on using them. It's just a feeling I get, that a "proper" solution should be to explain what you want in a way the new TE can understand. The solutions we established before were all meant for CLIP.
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>>8912567
>>8912599
we are going to use this thread until everyone moves here again and then I'll revive /hgg/ all by myself (again)
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>>8912711
déjà vu i have seen this gen before
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>>8912711
You still live?
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>>8912717
of course you have, it's a repost of my own gen

>>8912721
yes? what evidence do you have that I do not?
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otoko no ko doko
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only gays aka nai users like that
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i hate anime
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>>8912735
sir this is the anime lovers thread
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bake hgg for us nai users
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hgg can only be baked by noodlegod and it is for his gens only
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>>8912736
i don't see any FFVII Remake style gens doe
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>>8912740
>FFVII Remake style
that's a video game, not anime
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>>8912742
anime styled one
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>>8912743
It's 3DPD styled thoughbeit.
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kek
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>>8912743
only borderlands is anime styled
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>>8912747
that's western manga style
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naifag here tried local for the first time and holy shit it is better
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is the naifag in the room with us right now
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i'm animefag
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business idea: hair pins
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business idea: gacha where you can roll BBC loving sluts
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>>8912766
fgo just had its anniversary on NA tho
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>>8912746
>>8912755
>>8912747
>>8912765
Wrong thread, hgg is here: >>8897892
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>>8912769
trollbake
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Claudefag/fillyfucker got triggered hard by V5.
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>>8912769
i'm going to shitpost here, chuddy
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i'm going to shit soooooo fucking much here
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later i'm gonna find some sailor mars gens on civit to post here :)
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>>8912769
Did not expect to have my gen immortalized in this way
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>>8912782
>>8912784
>>8912785
Please do not. Hgg was made for this purpose.
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hgg was briefly the best thread on this website. but alas the flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long
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sailor mars is the biggest BBC whore in japanese animes
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>>
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>>8912799
>BBC whore
is the bbc in the room with us right now
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>>8912803
it's a latinX interpretation of bbc
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>>8912803
it's WAI-Anima so, it isn't succulent as SMEA NAI v3
>>
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>>8912825
my turban peeking out sir
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NAI is so freaking good
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new v5 samples
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https://civitai.red/models/2458426/anima?modelVersionId=3126581
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>>8912856
still no good controlnet
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>>8912859
>controlnet
Outdated meme tech, you should be asking for an edit model instead. If done well, it wouldn't just be a CN replacement, it would make non-style/distillation LoRAs obsolete too.
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>>8912856
>v1.1
aw shit here we go again
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>>8912856
Aesthetic 1.0 was Anima's NAIv4 moment, will this be its NAIv4.5 moment?
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>>8912863
It's blurry and has artifacts all over the image while deepfrying when you prompt for multiple characters in weird ways?
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>>8912856
depth was alright
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>>8912860
zero-shot sucks and everyone who still praises it is either blind, a jeet or never used it.
t. qwen and nanobanana user.
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>>8912869
The end result of zero-shot will likely never be better than finetuning, however, you're also spending like 1/100th of the time and effort on it for only marginally worse results so it still completely mogs character/concept LoRAs in sheer efficiency. What's the point of LoRAs if I'm never going to be arsed to prepare a dataset for one and burn through failbake after failbake getting the parameters right till I get something usable? If I had an edit model instead, I'd just throw it an image, reroll a few times and get something that's good enough.
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The forgetting is fucking real. At least it actually does look better than raw base this time, kinda. Still mogged by RDBT though kekaroo.
https://files.catbox.moe/ayaqoz.png
https://files.catbox.moe/5yrtoy.png
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>>8912872
If you're going for "good enough" you can bake a lora in the same way. The main difference then is in time saved, between a shitty 3-image lora baked in 5 mins to get a better result, vs just clicking in a reference image.
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>>8912875
>that comparison image
I literally don't believe you. I've been doing my own X/Y grids and aesthetic 1.1 mainly just changes details/style while keeping the composition and overall knowledge the same. It certainly doesn't change a seed by that much.
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>>8912878
A shitty 3-image first-try LoRA baked in 5 mins is NOT going to be better than edit models lmfao.
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>>8912860
getting anytest controlnet for anima in the next few months is somewhat plausible. getting a worthwhile edit model with H ability in the next year isn't.
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>>8912880
I really don't know what else to say lol, it is what it is. The only speed-ups/VRAM savers I'm using are lossless ones, namely
>--flash --sage --cuda-malloc --cuda-stream --pin-shared-memory --lowvram --reserve-vram 2
and Never OOM Integrated for VAE only, so there really isn't anything besides what you see in the metadata that could cause such massive discrepancies.
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>>8912855
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>>8912881
A single image one would be better than an edit model
marginally
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>>8912887
while I get the point that it's supposed to be impressive that it can do cohesive text in the floor and that it's got 8 "distinct" characters doing different things, it also just looks like such unfettered ass that I just can't take it seriously.
I think nai really lost the plot. They're not really trying to be a chinese cartoon model, they're trying to ape gemini/gpt/grok/whatever the fuck current corpo saas models are that "happen to sort of kind of be capable at chinese cartoons" which is completely worthless.
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>>8912890
wdym
you can make 1girl standing too
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>>8912892
but why would anyone pay for that
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>>8912890
I agree, especially the dot noses. They just don't understand what their target audience (me) wants at all.
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>>8912886
ok I actually went and looked at your metadata. Your prompt is fucked. Describe clothing, hair color, etc with at least a few tags and all the anima finetunes will nail the character knowledge 100% of the time. With your literal prompt, across a bunch of seeds, like half the time it's trying to make the image greyscale since you didn't describe the color of anything. When it did make a seed greyscale or close to it, it did it equally for base, aesthetic 1.0b, and 1.1.

1.1 is no worse for knowledge than any of the others you just RNG'd on a single seed.
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tranima. there. i said it and you reddit.
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>>8912892
1girl standing on her pee lots of
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>>8912856
my old seeds from base are changing a significant bit but I feel like it's following my prompt a little better now, style remains almost the same as aesthetic v1b
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kurumuz just confirmed that v5 is 100% vibecoded
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>>8912901
lol
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>>8912901
i hate people who use anime emotes
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>>8912895
nta and you're right, but if the point is aesthetic tuning then it doesn't match up to slop checkpoints. And if it's not, then what is
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>>8912886
>>8912895
(cont)
Ok more tests. I can easily get seeds where RDBT 0.39 is completely fucking up the patch on her clothes with the flag AND the gun also, and aesthetic1.1 is perfectly fine. it's just random which way it goes

this is why I don't trust anything you jeets say, you have shit prompts and post a single seed like it means anything when gens are fundamentally a random process
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https://x.com/Franciszek93954/status/2076698670976860316
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>>8912905
post the pics to really own him
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>>8912893

Niggas be retarded and horny
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>>8912905
Same can be said about his claims how RDBT has better style.
Sure, on his one style that nobody besides him gives a shit about and that he probably meticulously calibrated for RDBT in the first place.
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>>8912895
I mean duh but that was part of the challenge. It's common knowledge that well-trained models don't need more than a few tags to replicate a character, and what's better way to push that idea to the limit than to give it just the character name to work with?
>>8912905
>I can easily get seeds where RDBT 0.39 is completely fucking up the patch on her clothes with the flag AND the gun also
It's not suddenly going to give it the general knowledge of Nano Banana to make sense of barely defined crap like that, duh. What it absolutely DOES do is improve details, anatomy and composition with only trace amounts of slop, it also barely ever produces artifacts. It's just clean all around, feels like I go from NAIv4 to NAIv4.5 when I use it after base.
>post a single seed like it means anything when gens are fundamentally a random process
It takes me almost an entire minute to gen an image at that res and then even more time for checkpoint switching, it's 4 images but it's only 15 seconds shy of 5 minutes for the entire grid. I would be sitting here for half an hour if I did comparisons on more than a few seeds at a time.
https://files.catbox.moe/bm7fst.png
https://files.catbox.moe/2molya.png
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>>8912905 (me)
(cont yet again)
Are you aware RDBT is a distilled model and therefore collapses the output diversity, which actually makes it much more consistent for underspecified prompts? Put RDBT vs Anima Turbo on your prompt, and they are extremely similar outputs, Turbo is just a bit more neutral and less stylistically biased.
>>8912908
no this goes against exactly what I'm saying. DONT trust images, especially with a single seed. don't trust me or what I'm saying. go run the models and make comparisons yourself
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>>8912855
Ok, I must admit that the rows of roses is very impressive feat.

Kind wish adetailer wasn't so shit with Anima though. Anima struggles with hands, big time.
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>>8912919
>Are you aware RDBT is a distilled model and therefore collapses the output diversity
0.39 specifically is not, that one is just a pure aesthetic finetune. It doesn't work at CFG 1 or low steps the way other versions do.
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>>8912920
>Anima struggles with hands, big time.
probably just your style
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>>8912916
>well-trained models don't need more than a few tags to replicate a character
no you fucking retard, its the exact opposite: well-trained models won't bias the image extremely heavily towards a character's default outfit when you don't specify anything about that outfit in the prompt. this is a good thing because it lets you change the character's look or clothing
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>>8912921
brother even 0.39 is at least partially distilled, it mostly works at cfg 1 (just go fucking try it). at cfg 4 it's way too CFG-fried on account of having some degree of built-in cfg distillation

i'm actually done you guys are literal retards who don't know anything
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>>8912921
>It doesn't work at CFG 1
Ok, scratch that, it does, poorly. Still, it and its direct predecessor are only versions that haven't been step distilled.
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>>8912927
it's one guy
I don't feel like arguing with him since the three people left itt know to run their own tests. Used to make sense to correct them so they don't fuck up newfags with bad knowledge.
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>>8912928
>Still, it and its direct predecessor are only versions that haven't been step distilled.
you are wrong about literally fucking everything holy shit. 0.39 is blatantly step-distilled and cfg-distilled. it makes perfectly coherent images at 12 steps and cfg 1, only slightly worse in quality than running it with a bit of CFG and more steps. with those settings, an undistilled model produces complete garbage.

stop fucking posting, I and everyone else are rapidly losing brain cells reading this shit
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>>8912932
>(6/8/2026): b1 v0.39.b:
>
>Same finetuned base, different distillation settings.
>
>Higher diversity. More dynamic. Less Al sloppiness. (At the cost of stability, of course)
>(5/24/2026): b1 v0.37.1:
>
>Improve high noise stability a little bit.
>(5/18/2026): b1 v0.35:
>
>No step distillation. Just guidance distilled.
The guy only went back to step distillation for 1.0.
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>>8912933
It's clearly a lie then, given the above
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>>8912922
Probably? I tried spacezin in an unrelated model, and it gives kinda iffy hands.
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>>8912934
I mean is it? It's legible but it looks exceedingly blurry and blown out, has tons of chromatic aberration and makes mistakes far more often at 12 steps, and that's very similar to what you get on base, which is also legible but bad. It straight up doesn't even look like the same image, which is pretty fucking bizarre, but the settings ARE the same and it DOES produce the same image if I set it back to 30. And no, that's not RDBT-specific, base does that also.
https://files.catbox.moe/eno6k1.png
https://files.catbox.moe/sux9bd.png
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lolcals...
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Who cares. E621 and ATFbooru finetune when?
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>>8912960
won
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>>8912723
who are those?
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>>8912989
anby and harumasa from zzz
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if only these lolcals could see what nai is capable of
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>>8912711
gatoboxo?
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>>8912997
i don't have $25
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u.u
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>>8912997
they have eyes, but they can't see mt tai
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noob2edit2... whatever happened there?
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haven't been paying a whole lot of attention to stable diffusion development since illustrious came out
do we have an equivalent of nai's character's reference without having to train a character lora for local yet?
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Sirs ლ(´ڡ`ლ)
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>>8913013
can you make the skin shinier and add more boob rings?
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but poopy belongs in the toilet...
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>>8913011
this is a genuine question btw i don't care about your shitposting
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if lolcal had features there wouldnt be shitposting
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>>8913017
where are the NAI gens then?
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>>8913016
No
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>>8913018
i'll start posting some once v5 comes out
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>>8912855
>new v5
of what anon?
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>>8913032
NAI, though it’s still not publicly available. The devs say it should be out sometime during the summer.
>>
>>
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>>8912656
do you have an example? or
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>>8913049
just a quick example, "yellow eyelashes" gives piss color eyelashes, "colored eyelashes" gives dark eyelashes, "blonde eyelashes" still looks similar to "colored eyelashes", (colored eyelashes:1.5) looks alright (middle)
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>>8913052
what if you just prompt the same color you prompted the hair with?
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>>8913033
have they said anything about the date of their dataset?, also the img here >>8912892 is a bit spooky, it kinda passes the perspective check at first glance. Impressive for a stacked comfy U workflow like nai
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>>8913055
im fucking retarded and i cant read. what if you prompted both colored and blonde?
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>>8913056
No, though something worth noting is the latest batch of preview images appears to go beyond the 6 character limit NAI has.
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>>8913057
already tested for >>8908509
works sometimes, but it's inconsistent, depending on artist tags
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>>8913062
does natural language work at all? her eyelashes are the same color as her hair, etc
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>>8913069
>>8908498
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is the real place to post images the /trash/ AI thread
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>>8913072
unironically yes
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>>8913072
why you ask?
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even the /trash/ blacked thread has better gens than /hgg/
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>>8912921
>that one is just a pure aesthetic finetune
well well well

>>8912932
>>8912934
nta but cfg distillation still allows genning at lower step counts, although it is not as good as step distilled methods like dmd. you could try earlier versions from before he used dmd, such as v12 or smth
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so verdict on aesthetic 1.1 if i absolutely despise ai-generated WAI slop look?
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>>8913104
idk. i don't gen
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>>8913104
just bee yourself
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I don't like where this is going
>e-six-two-one still nowhere to be seen
tdruseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelllll
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>>8913110
he already said he didn't want to use e621 for anima 1. idk why you keep spamming this e621 shit
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no wonder anima is trash then
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>no I won't press the "fix everything easily" switch
why are all bakers fucking retarded holy shit
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>>8913113
So you are telling me he is potentially cooking something bigger than Anima that WILL have e621, yeah??
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>>8913116
give him more civitai buzz first, chud
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>furfag trying to co-opt and poison another model
keeeeeeeeeeek
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>>8913110
>learning how to make turbo models and aesthetic finetunes is actually bad
why do so many people hate the idea of post-training models? imagine krea2-raw was the only version we got, and any attempt to make a better finetuned version was met with disdain and contempt
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who the fuck cares about krea2?
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>>8913126
I have no use for aesthetics of mumbai. Model trained with artist tags does the job.
Now imagine if local had an inpainting model.
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who the fuck cares about inpainting? pick up a pencil then nigga
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Local models should be banned by governments
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>>8913133
>muh inpainting model!
have those even been a thing since SD1.5, why are some people still so obsessed with them when a CN does fine
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>>8913137
Yeah, they've never been a thing on local. Good for you I guess, because if you knew what you were missing you'd kill yourself.
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>>8913136
Now that's an aesthetic bibici
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>>8913136
Ok but where's the datameta
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Are the SAAS inpaint model in the room with us right now
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>>8913138
https://github.com/kohya-ss/sd-scripts/pull/2309
literally nobody gives a shit
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>>8913142
You wouldn't be localkeks if you did.
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what's inpainting like on lolcal besides queueing up 1000 gens to fix a wonky hand?
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>https://civitai.red/models/2650553/anima-edit
>https://files.catbox.moe/5nqwbv.webp
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>>8913146
>https://civitai.red/models/2650553/anima-edit
>Change the style of the image to @sooon.
this is kinda cool actually
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Anyway, I can't imagine waiting half a minute to roll one inpaint with Anima, so I'd continue using the 3-second NAI inpainting either way.
>>8913145
Yes that's one way. I remember using seed variation to reroll the entire image in a way that it mostly stays the same but broken hand gets fixed.
Noodlekek sketches a rough fix before inpainting.
.inc just draws the whole edit himself.
That's about it?
Still, it's not the same as selecting the entire arm and just telling it to do completely different thing, like >>>/g/109259061 into picrel.
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>>8912723
>yes? what evidence do you have that I do not?
you don't post as often nowdays
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>>8913151
I had been restricting myself from posting anything since someone kept baking new /hgg/ threads but now that I'm back here I'll be blessing the poor souls of this thread more often or not It depends on whether I am winning or losing ranked games
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Also, holy pog the motherfucker thing almost did it
perhaps if I specified the characteristics more it would do it properly
>https://litter.catbox.moe/hxj9dfe3cu87epvl.png
>https://litter.catbox.moe/23s1hbacm2zhu6pc.png
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>>8913155
I get why the masked part of hair got much blurrier, but why did it also shift to the right like that? Cropping/stitching code of forge inpainting is fucked up a bit?
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>>8913155
Man, sensei has been working out
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>>8913159
that's his bull
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>>8913160
Of course it is, Mr Goldbergstein
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>>8913158
>Cropping/stitching code of forge inpainting is fucked up a bit?
idk but inpainting in anima is fucked as a whole, I have my workarounds for it but my "general" settings are not as reliable and effective as they were with SDXL

>>8913159
>>8913160
since this thread lacks ntr/nts kino, yes it's her bull
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>>8913164
>brown low IQ antisemitic /pol/tard
>shiny WAI slop
wow
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>>8913150
I love fire, really
cute style
but after finding the actual artist behind his styles and after seeing how his gens are basically identical before/after beyond some minor cleanup I kinda lost interest
still a cute style but the entire process from start to end is not what I'd consider effort
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>>8913169
his tablet/artist thing is a huge larp but if you like the pics it shouldn't really matter, right
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>>8913169
his style is just unarsite + oekaki
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>>8913172
it matters insofar as I can just take the LoRA and do it myself
had the same problem with a few actual artists, "yeah that's nice but can I see this instead"
next thing I know I stop looking at the original works entirely
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>>8913175
yeah I guess
never was a fan of his pics but I like the loras
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>>8913169
>but after finding the actual artist behind his styles and after seeing how his gens are basically identical before/after beyond some minor cleanup I kinda lost interest
proof? Because this just reads as shitposting.
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>>8913178
he often posts metadata
go ahead and compare yourself
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>>8913150
>Yes that's one way. I remember using seed variation to reroll the entire image in a way that it mostly stays the same but broken hand gets fixed.
>lolcal inpainting is so shit some people would rather use seed variation rerolling
holy shit i wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy
>.inc just draws the whole edit himself.
it's not like his scribbles take that much effort to fix considering how basic the styles he uses are
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>>8913179
you're making a claim, it's your job to prove it.
>just look it up
I'm not looking for a needle in a haystack just to believe a dumb claim about someone with one or more obvious dedicated schizos shitposting against them.
inb4 backlinking a post from 2 years ago or something dumb
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>>8913182
hi .inc
there are like... way, way less obvious way to go about this but you always choose to immediately out yourself, why?
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>>8913185
>t. schizo shitposter
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>>8913182
>inb4 backlinking a post from 2 years ago or something dumb
Oh yeah, why not though? I have those!!
Raw gen: https://files.catbox.moe/4zcq77.png
Edit: https://files.catbox.moe/bzu1jo.png
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Gen: https://files.catbox.moe/g43ue2.png
Edit: https://files.catbox.moe/s8xwqu.png
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Gen: https://files.catbox.moe/rkmd0i.png
Edit: https://files.catbox.moe/oz7ltu.png
Let me know if you need more examples of master at work, I think I have like 25 more.
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god i hate pedos
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>>8913187
>Oh yeah, why not though?
doesn't seem very relevant.
>Let me know if you need more examples of master at work
how about something recent
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>>8913187
so, this is the power of the tablet
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>>8913187
nooooo you were supposed to be defeated by 404 links noooooo
yeah in times like this where people say "prove it" it's like, do you not understand how it makes no difference to me what you think
but yeah there you go.
I always thought fire was more involved with the process given how they always talk about it so seriously but they never were, it was seriously just a larp

btw if you run into sudden "automatically solved captcha but also no valid captcha", just erase your cookies and site storage for 4chan, then you can cloudflare again
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>>8913193
>they always talk about it so seriously but they never were
but he hand drew (on his tablet) hole in a wall once!
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>>8913187
and how would you scale stuff like this
>>8513930
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>>8913193
>I always thought fire was more involved with the process given how they always talk about it so seriously but they never were, it was seriously just a larp
this happens all the time in "creative spaces" (for lack of a better term)
do you seriously think vangelis ever actually touched a synthesizer control? no, it's all fucking presets and he larped as a sound designer
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>>8913197
I've seen enough people in these threads do a lot to their gens
I don't expect high concept art but more than just pressing the button and shipping it would be nice
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>>8913195
nta but this shit is pretty basic, I did compositing for a couple of gens like that as a nodraw in fucking gimp (back when the models were dumber)
not saying like its a bad thing that his edits are minimal but the whole "tablet artist" charade is just cringe when you see the actual process. everything he does could easily be accomplished with mouse and basic inpaint.
there are actual ai users who redraw their pics and that's what i'd call "ai-assisted"
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my favorite fire.inc posts:
-seething about clara's coat
-hole in a wall
-blacked grannies
-admission of being slut for updoots
-schizo blogpost about jannies gangstalking him on multiple boards and posting threats
-big heads
-tablet
-melting on civit for multiple weeks about theft of "his" style
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>>8913202
pretty lame all in all... they don't make 'em (lolcows) like they used to...
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two years ago i bought a cheap tablet on a whim to assist me with nai inpainting
i used it exactly 0 times so far
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>>8913203
he isn't humorous, just deranged
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>>8913202
>clara's coat
>>8336022
>https://files.catbox.moe/w9xksf.png
>https://files.catbox.moe/6zt1ob.png
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>>8913202
>melting on civit for multiple weeks about theft of "his" style
no way. lmao
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>>8913208
https://civitai.red/models/2001119/cute-simplified-anime-style-illustriousxl-noob-lora
see hidden, but most of it was deleted by civit jannies
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>>8913210
>most of it was deleted by civit jannies
why are you making shit up tho. that's exactly how it was months ago when it was first pointed out on hgg. Also there are bakaschizo lora's that he doesn't seem to have any reaction to?
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>>8913211
maybe, then my bad, but i remember that there was more of his posts
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>>8913210
>Still reporting the lora for using my work without permission by the way.
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is debo here? i have a question
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>>8913215
he's mentally ill, but pointing it out always trigger his dick sucker
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yes?
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>>8913211
That's because konan called him pedophile.
Baka names his loras .inc, but konan said he wouldn't train on .inc because he is a pedo, then published the above style anyway but named it differently.
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>>8913213
>>8757772
also konan's just an indian grifter. Unironically someone that inhibits people sharing things to this website because he lurks to try and steal anything not bolted to the floor so he can try and make a dollar off of it.
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has it been just konan seething at bobble bro the whole time
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>>8913220
>t. tabletdotbobble
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>>8913215
holy kek
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oekakischizo:
>does nothing
>literally nothing
>absolutely nothing
some schizo:
>constantly spamming
>shitposting
>absolutely SEETHING, shidding, farding himself to death trying to shape some sort of narrative
>does this completely unprompted
really makes you think
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>>8913226
very late today, aren't we
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This is what happens when people care more about avatarfags and e-celebs than genning
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nice damage control
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>>8913228
I care about recognizable posters only because they are also the best genners. Literally everything else posted here is 100% utter trash...
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>>8913210
why doesn't the CanIndian want to give credit to bobble sirs? i remember he gave the reason pedos get no credit.
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>>8913230
amen and ~awooomen
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>>8913231
Putting the whole argument aside, it's good to know Civitai sloppers train on AI output without telling anyone.
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>>8913233
he literally said it's ai inbreed lora
>Mix of Ai generated pictures and from muji artist - dataset available to download
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>>8913233
i hate this like you wouldn't believe. it's inauthentic behavior even.
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>>8913235
that's the v2, by the way. he took down v1 and refused to disclose that dataset at all.
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>>8913226
t. tabletdotscribble
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How old is the tablet guy
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>>8913241
out of ten?
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can you stop sperging out about civitai retards and talk about how anima sucks for prompting porn
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>>8913248
>>8913247
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>>8913248
I only do 1girls so I don't care. Also for when I suddenly do care I just make composition in NAI and i2i from there.
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>>8913249
yes. not having e621 makes this anima animagine tier for nsfw
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>>8913250
this, but in Nai(noobai)
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post skeleton sex (hentai)
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>>8913251
>nooo you need furshit in your dataset
might as well start calling you furjews with how consistently subversive you subhumans are
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post pure sex (1girl, looking cute)
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>>8913255
This but bobbleheads
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>>8913254
nigga the dataset has shitty deviantart. if you're gonna poison the model anyways, put the useful cancer in. it will look just as shitty, but at least it'd do porn better.
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>>8913257
>but at least it'd do porn better.
>STILL believing in and spreading this lie
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>>8913251
Going back throught the last few months of my gens, it really is just /e/ stuff and cowgirl pov. But not sure if that's the model's capabilities biasing what I want to gen, or the state of /hdg/ vs /edg/.

Do you have any examples of poses/concepts that work worse?
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>>8913258
all models that have e621 do it better. but i guess 1girl standing chud wouldn't know
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>>8913260
furjew behavior
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>>8913260
noob only continued to get worse once it enabled TE training with e621 though?
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>>8913262
yeah, eps 0.5 schizo kept complaining about that, and guess what, he only did 1girl standing.
noobai team was retarded to add it mid training.
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soon we'll be celebrating over three and a half years of furfags infiltrating and (((subverting))) imagegen communities into including their shit into training datasets
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it's the fucking birdschizo
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its bobblin time! - the bobbler
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literally who
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just... pick up a tablet
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any recommendation for local models that do eight ocs without leaking?
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>>8913273
On that note, I do wonder what their pipeline looks like now. It being a closed system means they can do a lot of fuckery before actually passing the prompt to the model.

I experimented with similar stuff back on noob, a comfy workflow where you would provide character prompts in separate fields. Run a quick and dirty gen with generic 1girls, have ultralytics detect their positions, then apply a weak depth CN to keep them fixed, add in the character prompts with regional and re-generate with the full step count.
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why yes i also hold a pencil in my hand every time i click generate. how could you tell?
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why is noodlekek still seething about oekakigod?
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i put a pencil in my peehole while genning
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>>8913281
this post reminds me of catgoddess. whatever happened xhere?
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>>8913282
but why
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>>8913283
she's into weird shit.
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>>8913277
>On that note, I do wonder what their pipeline looks like now. It being a closed system means they can do a lot of fuckery before actually passing the prompt to the model.
fampai i don't think there's a "pipeline", things happen way too fast even for a cluster of that size (you can also just watch the entire process)
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You people bicker about the silliest things.
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shut up bitch. i rule you.
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>>8913260
There's probably a lot to be said about missing concept tags or weird poses, but what I miss the most is just not having the man be several shades darker than the girl every time.

Also, unrelated but it kinda shits the bed with real porn img2img. Can't mix the style bias from partial denoise with an artist tag, same as how it can't mix artist tags.
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>>8913286
NTA, but I tried it out and recorded a video to measure how long things take. I press the button at 0.433 seconds, then 0.534 seconds later the first preview appears. It takes 1.733 seconds until the last preview, and then another 1.833 seconds for the final image to arrive and the generation to finish. The last part could be just my internet, I don't know.
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>>8913297
Good things happen when bakers don't fall for stupid memes like DiT.
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>>8913297
it's slower if you have the preview on but yeah, on a decent day with regular load it's about 2-3 seconds
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>>8913297
oh hey, I guess they made 2-stage (low res -> high res) part of their speedup
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>>8913300
I don't think so, but that's what SMEA was.
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(and yeah, it costed more anals because SMEA took 20% more resources to gen with instead of less)
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i wish local was good...
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>>8913300
the actual speedup is pretty recent, before that it used to be ~5-6s per image
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Is Krea 2 any good? I noticed it seems the be the latest on many loras.
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>>8913324
Another censorslopped meme model, Klein 9B unironically has more of a use case since it's at least an edit model.
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>>8913324
yes. it's quite fast too for a dit of that size. nsfw is kinda clunky tho
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>>8913325
Don't think i've ever used Klein to be honest, might as well check it out.
>>8913326
I'll check it out, the example gens looks pretty nice to be honest.
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>Aesthetic 1.1 is the last Anima iteration before a finetune of a different base model
Honestly, where DO we even go from here? Virtually every model out there that isn't older than Anima itself would only be realistically usable in turboslop form.
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>>8913364
Well to be fair I haven't even heard of Cosmos until Anima put out the first preview. I'm sure there are more obscure options.
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Seriously need some good hand detailer for Anima.
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To the anon who said nobody uses NovelAI, I hope you feel ridiculous right now.
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>>8913426
detailers were a cope for earlier models with shitty vaes and 1024x max resolution. you can just gen at a higher res with anima and the entire image will be "detailed".
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>>8913427
>Discord
Why do this to yourself?
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>>8913427
NAI has shown continuous, meaningful progress, while Tdrussell's releases have mostly been iterations of unfinished low quality models.
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nai 4.5 literally can't do proper gradients, what progress are we talking about
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>>8913426
just upscale, inpaint and make a lora
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The Chad Rrussel mogged every other baker with minimal compute and dataset prep.
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>>8913439
It's almost like TDRussel is just starting out and only has Comfy Org's compute whereas NAI have been at it for 4 years and have a cluster all of their own. For how little Anima was made with, it's a miracle it managed to mog NAIv4.5 so hard.
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I like large breasts
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>>8913447
surprisingly rare itt recently
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>>8913439
everything they've shown from v5 looks like it may as well be a z-image finetune (it probably is), while 4.5 is merely on par with anima, better at some things worse at others

analtan has their own H100 cluster and probably $10m+ ARR, they should be unfathomably far ahead of everyone else but somehow they aren't
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>>8913450
they overestimated themselves with v4 and probably spent too much on trying to train shit from scratch. that's what i think at least
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>>8913450
>somehow
A misplaced sense of superiority tends to breed complacency.
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>>8913450
>analtan has their own H100 cluster and probably $10m+ ARR
They rent a cluster and most of the compute is going to the gens of their users.
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>>8913450
NAI has had 16ch VAE for over a year now, and local hentai just caught up with Anima, except gens take 10 times as long.
And now that local "caught up", NAI is already releasing a better version.
Not ahead at all:)
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>>8913455
16ch vae is a nothingburger dude
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>>8913455
And TDRussel is starting to work on a new model. The days of local being stuck on one model for 1.5-2 years at a time has passed now that Comfy Org is bankrolling new models instead of random furfags/ponytroons/chinks.
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>16ch VAE is a nothinburger
>inpaint model is a nothingburger
>separate character boxes are a nothingburger
True true. Local is ahead, I just can't see in what because I'm not smart enough like anons ITT :(
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it's ahead
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>>8913460
>>separate character boxes are a nothingburger
This is quite literally a cope for having abysmal dogshit NL capabilities.
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anima character recognition status?
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>>8913465
Can maybe do a character with 8000 entries if you specify the exact eyes it has!
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>>8913460
>controlnet is a nothingburger
>lora is a nothingburger
>regional prompter is a nothingburger
lack of self-awareness much?
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character recognition is a literal nothingburger, just use the 0.6B param TE to describe every single item of clothing, hair and eye color and backstory or just train a lora you whiny entitled baby
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>>8913451
v4.5 was trained from scratch too and it was good
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lel
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>no argument
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Newfag here, I downloaded Illustrous but my pics look like shit. What to do
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>>8913474
it's great at nsfw and decent at prompt comprehension, but stylewise it's kind of a mess. i kinda hate that the latest models like anima and nai4.x are still worse aesthetically compared to sdxl
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>>8913479
upgrad gp u
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>>8913479
25
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Have you guys tried to merge multiple character loras together? How did it go?
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>>8913484
merging is the dark art of the jeets. a white man can tell you nothing about it
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>>8913375
wrong thread amigo
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>>8913490
>>8912711
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Can any NL experts help?
I want to generate "osanai yuki, shoushimin series" locally. NAIv4.5 gets her quite easily, so I'm sure Anima, being newer model with larger dataset can't possibly not know her, right?
You know I'm not very smart, so I need your help describing her facial features, especially the eyes, to help Anima remember her!
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>he's still seething
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what buckbroke the naicreature this time
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>>8913520
anima got a single hairpin on his favorite vtumor wrong
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>>8913518
I know nothing about this series or who this slut is, can you tell me if this is on-model?
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>>8913537
Nope. I especially need on-model eyes, they would look something like this, or like in the post I attached above.
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/9837489
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>>8913455
okay that's why
see I was thinking, *why* would NAI use a two-stage gen pipe when it doesn't save any time swapping at like 4 steps, totally worthless right
well yeah of course, to generate sufficiently random seed noise to get diverse outputs even on a turbo/distil
so raw first few steps -> distil last N steps
you get the speed *and* variety of both
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>>8913545
You are schizoing out, my bro. NAIv4.5 unet is SDXL with some layers trimmed down. So of course it's giga fast, doesn't need any of these schizo optimizations to be so.
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>>8913545
Could this be done on local? Like use the Turbo LoRA but skip it for the first several steps? Using a base and a Turbo checkpoint would eliminate any and all speed benefits due to loading/unloading so it HAS to be done with a LoRA. I know there's some syntax to apply tags before/after N steps but I've never tried this with a LoRA.
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>>8913551
https://github.com/asagi4/comfyui-prompt-control here you go, has syntax for lora scheduling. Last time I checked it was broken for Anima, but it was several months worth of comfy updates before.
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>>8913551
lora scheduling has been a thing since SD1.5
but I couldn't get any forgefags to confirm if it's still supported for them, since it's so niche
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>>8913551
could be done in comfy, would need a weird workflow in webui (ie: refiner)
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>>8913554
lora-ctl hasn't been working since 1.5
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>>8913542
Anima has some issues with fine details like that and having a quick look at danbooru artists aren't exactly consistent with the color, shape and gradient of the eyes either.
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>>8913553
>>8913554
This could be a genuine general-purpose use case for it.
>>8913555
>refiner
That's just running another checkpoint over an in-progress image, don't think you can use a LoRA as a refiner.
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>>8913558
Sorry bro this looks like shit. NAI actually does it better than danbooru artists, it's pretty much exactly on-model.
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>>8913560
>>8913518
NAI was trained on a shit ton of anime screencaps so you can have your waifu's special eyes replicated better than what even human artists will do, at the cost of having the worst base style possible.
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>>8913560
Eh, no, it's not that consistent, there's some variation from on-model eyes too sometimes.
Let's call it good enough then.
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>>8913572
mainly there's no on-model, her older art has normal eyes
>>
does raise an interesting point though, lately a bunch of girls came out where artists don't even bother to get their eyes right
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>>8913580
almost as if those "artists" were actually using AI
>>
Real talk: is turbo even THAT bad? Obviously yes on Anima, that much is not up for debate, I mean distillations of far, far bigger base models. The question really becomes, if you HAVE to choose, is it better to have a small base model or a distill of a large model?
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>>8913581
I mean shit like https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/11782483
they'll just give up and give her regular anime eyes
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>>8913585
the research papers say a distill of a larger model is better than a model that was small to begin with
not sure anyone tested that conclusively on our use case
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>>8913450
Since V4, NAI has been making its own anime foundation models. They're not grabbing some random realism research model and hoping a fine tune magically turns it into a good anime model like you neardental locals think. NAI has a team dedicated to training these models specifically for illustration.

So unless you can show evidence that V5 was initialized from Z Image, claiming it's "just based on Z Image" is pure local mindset speculation.
Seriously, who the fuck is still fine-tuning some lab research model into an anime foundation model in 2026?
>>
>NAI has been making its own anime foundation models.
https://files.catbox.moe/7wng8a.png
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>>8913594
Let's make a lora! Here in /hdg/ every day is 2023!
>>
>>
Are you guys ever gonna post gens that don't look like they were made by AI?
Or is the tech just not there yet? seems like the predominant style of this thread is not any artist's style but more like "AI-style"
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>>8913630
like what
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>>8913632
https://x.com/firedotalt
>>
of course, my bad for asking
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>>8913630
>Or is the tech just not there yet?
just grab a tablet
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>>8913630
>>8913636
Forgot image, sorry
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>>8913641
That is worthless for image gen though.
>>
https://huggingface.co/LAXMAYDAY/daddt-t2i-anime
>>
ip grabber
>>
bobbles are good actually
>>
big heads
>>
are
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>>8913226
it never stops
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>>8913652
Ain't dead?
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>>8913648
LAX was only good with NoobAI, everything he did after that was one failure after another.
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>>8913630
Just add flat colors and sketch to the prompt, and most people are fooled.
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>>8913672
>fooled
>by that
uuuuh
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>>8913672
no way this isn't tableted
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>>8913675
>Someone missed the Sonic "sketch" debacle 2 years ago
lol
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i hate mexico
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yeah? i hate it when """people""" pick a healer character and then DON'T FUCKING HEAL ANYONE
what the fuck is their problem
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>>8913692
>HE has darker skin tone than HER
Uh oh
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>>8913718
it's just a tasteful hint of contrast, nothing to worry about
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poop :D
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>>8913723
It's YOUR fault.
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I hate when Mexicans are alive
what the fuck is their problem
>>
>Mexico
https://litter.catbox.moe/9dtox5.png
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>>8913741
The 20% return rate says a lot more than the money vs no money, 80% of people kept the whole wallet for themselves.
>>
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>>8913690
that image looked less ai than this melty mess
>>
uh oh melty
>>
2hu is traditional media.
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>anima is such a failbake Russel is already looking for a new grift
oof
>>
>grift
i do not think it means what you think it means.
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*gift i meant
>>
failbake preview 1 when?
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it's pronounced and spelt "jift"
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>>8913823
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>>8913755
fixed it for you sir
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>>8913828
holy fried
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>>8913828
rescale cfg works with anima, bro
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>>8913829
Thanks mr. sir, not interested in the fix though.
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>>8913630
we need more anime_screenshot
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>>8913831
I did not feel like spending a second more on processing power though.
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fak
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>>8913835
your eyesight isn't worth a second more on processing power?
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>>8913838
No need. I eat my veggies and have good eyesight.
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>>8913839
do you prefer your veggies on a nice taco or a burrito, mexican?
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>>8913835
>>8913839
please be considerate of others' eyesight
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That's what I mean by two left hands, linked wrong post wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
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>>8913840
No preference. Now excuse me, I must save the white race.
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there he goes. my hewo.
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>I must save the white race.
i have a few ideas on how to do that.
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>>8913741
>israel
kek
>>
deport the mexican back to the containment zone
>>
>Global Rule 3: You will not post any of the following outside of /b/: Racism
>>
but you can't be racist toward whites (mexicans)
>>
>>8913621
Cool
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>>8913621
>interracial in negs
>dildo is still black
Why is nai like this?
>>
>>8913864
it's dark blue, sir
>>
1 in 12 people are colorblind
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>>8913864
Because NAI keeps winning.
Where's Anima's user gallery? There isn't one because Anima can't into tag mix.
>>8912022
>https://novelai.net/explore/gallery
Is the new release of NovelAI kind of a CivitAI thing where NAI artists upload their prompt with their image
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>>8913868
>https://novelai.net/explore/image/cb2eab6c-6512-432b-95f4-55ced011d1f2
why can't lolcal's favourite anima do anything like this?
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>>8913868
Not even joking, I'm switching to browsing there instead of civitai. The amount of slop on Civit with anime (and honestly everything else) is unreal. At least that 25 per month filter actually does a decent job weeding out the low quality garbage.
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>>8913868
>>8913872
>no artist tags
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>LoRA extract of Aesthetic looks better and is more stable than the actual Aesthetic checkpoint
geg
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>>8913875
>Applying it to Aesthetic-series models might make the output even more aesthetic.
holy kek
>>
>outdated technology extract of a failbake looks better and is more stable than the actual failbake
Lolcals
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>>8913868
>webp
>no full metadata
uh i thought it's like civitai
>>
still waiting for those amazing nai gens I keep hearing about.
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>>8913879
???? >>8913868
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>>8913875
Aesthetic in what way??? There's an unprompted style shift between Anima base and Aesthetic 1.1. Aesthetic 1.1 reminds me of the Diving Suit anime series, probably because of the more realistic facial proportions.
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>adds dutch angle unprompted
>adds hair over shoulder unprompted
>in other words, badly tagged dataset
>calls it "aesthetic"
locals will defend this
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>>8913672
Why does it look so different from my attempt with those tags, did you use rdbt or aesthetic?

Still, I prefer graphite \(medium\) or traditional media, and then prompt edit an artist near the end.
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>>8913880
>randomly click through a few images
>no artist tags
you can't make this shit up. lmao
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>>8913885
go be a thieving lolcalite elsewhere.
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>>8913885
Yeah every gen in there is made by NAI team. I'm refreshing waiting for them to approve a single new gen from actual users to see if they will be approving artist tags, and they aren't coming...
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Nevermind KEK.
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>>8913889
Why even bother?
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>>8913875
how do i make my own lora extract?
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>>8913889
N-nai?
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>>8913890
True true, I'll just keep stealing from that one anon on trash. 4chan > NovelAI.
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>>8913889
this is like style_cluster_2477 all over again
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>>8913889
v5 bros i don't feel so good
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>>8913889
just write
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ngl, if v4.5 was leaked rn, i would never touch anima again
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>>8913886
>we don't use artists tags to hide how Nai can't mix no more
>artists tags? just use vibe transfer
>why are you a thief?
lol even.
>>
Anima is shit. Same story as SDXL all over again, endless shitmerges with no progress in the 6 months since release. SDXL had Pony by this point desu.
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>>8913889
kekypow
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>>8913705
just pick up a healslut somewhere and queue together
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>>8913899
this isn't india. in high-trust communities you are expected to follow basic etiquette.
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>>8913878
If you want the metadata, just click the download button.
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>>8913904
yeah i thought they stripped the artist tags from the metadata
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>>8913903
>basic etiquette
you're getting gimped out of a previously well established feature for a service you pay for and think you're better off. you're not wrong. pay more for less. that is exactly what a high trust cuck would do. redeem that bloody bitch basterd.
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>>8913889
do lolcaltards really not understand that itd create unnecessary hassle of advertising its "stealing" from artists for their paid service
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>>8913906
what an embarrassing reply, screeching about cuckshit out of nowhere. the jokes write themselves. stick to street shitting on civitai.
>>
>it's overall better, follows prompts better, more coherent, less vae induced artifacts, etc. i think at this point showing the difference between models is becoming difficult though, because you mainly feel it in how easy it is to reach the result you want. if you spend enough effort, you can generally achieve similar results on worse models, it just takes much longer and more work (e.g. vae issues can be somewhat mitigated by upscaling/generating at higher resolutions, details can be added with img2img inpainting as desired, and so on, you could even just draw part of an image yourself to achieve a result) so now it's not as easy to show an image and have people go "wow, that's impossible on previous models"
I like NAI's person in charge of finetuning, he's very honest and grounded when he talks about the model. Tdrussell, on the other hand, comes off like a dramatic teenage girl.
>>
/h/ kinda feels like /g/.lately
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i hate mexico
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>>8913904
And if I want the download button, I just click the metadata?
>>8913910
Why?
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>>8913906
what the fuck are you talking about man
>>
>>8913909
I thought this was talking about Anima vs SDXL
>>
i am enjoying Pokémon Ultra Moon on my New Nintendo 3DS XL
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>>8913914
nai can not do the mixing artists and he is mad. timmy thinks of India somehow. fucking benchod.
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>>8913917
why don't you just calm down and be like this guy for once? >>8913916
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>>8913915
Yeah, that's why it's so relatable, reading it as a genner I felt called out. That's why I like his mindset. If it were tdrussell he'd say "SDXL and CLIP are outdated, just use Anima and my base/turbo/aesthetic models in Civit for buzzzz"
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>>8913917
big if true
>>
Do we have any evidence that tdrusell is American? Or at least European?
>>
>>8913918
oh Pokemon? yes I like Diglett. it reminds me of home.
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>>8913922
russell is a white name
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>>8913924
India was a british collony
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>>8913909
this has more or less been the case since FLUX
not a VAE specific issue, moreso that we've hit the necessary fidelity cap (technologically, not actually) and now the focus is more on model capabilities, unique tech etc.
like boogu dropped, krea, ideogram and the general temperature across all of them is: "yeah okay nice but how is this any better than what we have".
on a purely technological level of course it's way better but the use-case and Unique Selling Point more or less just isn't there.
show me reference inputs like Klein/Qwen Image/etc. why is it falling into the lap of third-party hobby devs to make your model appealing what the fuck are these people on
>>
>>8913916
what do you think of Lillie?
>>
>>8913926
>Krea
It's a corpo. It's not their job to make their free and local model attractive but a tech demo.
>Qwen
Same thing.
>Every other model
Most of them come from research labs, universities, or public institutions. The researchers are employees or bureaucrats, they get paid regardless of whether the model ends up being good or bad for end users. Their incentive is publishing papers and advancing research, not building the best consumer product.
So that's why local is doomed.
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>>8913930
Market incentives force quality, If NAI5 flops, people lose their jobs. A government researcher on a state AI project faces no such consequence.
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>>8913922
he likes loli piss, so he's white, at least spiritually
>>
>no artist tags
>no nsfw
>no copyright characters
naiggers will try to spin this as positive
>>
another win for localbrahmins timmies be seething
>>
>>8913927
sex
>>
i hate anime
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>>8913937
this is anime lovers general
pls go >>8912789
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>>8913953
it's ded
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>>8913954
Obviously, cause they hate anime
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>>8913889
ded
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>>8913936
based. post it
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>>8913902
It would be great if it was that easy
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>>8913980
have you tried
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nuke mexico
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>>8913982
have (You) tried?
>>
this but brazil
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>>8913985
no, I just play support myself
>>
otoko no ko doko
>>
https://x.com/SeeRacists/status/2077090786513174792
>>
the goyim have gone insane
>>
>>8913999
i have some to share but I want you to share first now
>>
Can't believe even the twitter shitposter moved over, /hgg/ is truly dead
>>
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>>8913271
Seems to be heavily dependent on artstyle. Maybe ones that were uncensored work better.
>>
>>8914006
>>8912711
>>
can't wait to post x (formerly twitter) links in /hgg2/
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any americans in here? i have a few questions. mexicans and other illegals please do not reply
>>
mexico is in america doe
>>
donaald trump nude
>>
nuke*
>>
grandpa, that's not where you enter it
>>
hopw nude mexico
>>
gulp of america
>>
Lil bro melting about mexicans when he has bigger things to worry about.
>>
how tf do i prompt for nipple bulges in anima without nipple outline???
>>
1 word
>>
mom's spaghetti
>>
i have big head withdrawal symptoms
>>
I have blacked gacha sluts withdrawal symptoms (my white clitty won't stop leaking)
>>
i want to be pantied and sissified
>>
>>>8914037
>>89>>8914037
14037
>8914037
nvm covered nipples with nipples in negs kinda worked
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Already in auto sage? I wasn't paying attention. Today's story will be short. I spent a long time trying to figure out controlnet and latent couple, trying to build a Lora for Ema and Miroko, not getting what I wanted, blah blah blah. Moving on.

The couple that met Ema and Testuya when they were on their "honeymoon" message Tetsuya saying they want to meet up; Shinichi and Ai Imahara. Tetsuya convinces Ema to join him since they don't want to create suspicion and Ema enjoyed meeting them before so they meet at Succubus Style Cafe. It's his first date with Ema in a month since their pretend newlywed week. Before they leave he even makes sure she's wearing his wedding ring instead of her husband's.

I thought it would be fun to crossover with Lyra. Wasn't sure that's what I wanted because Lyra and Sakura live in a world with fucked up morality where girls can be naked in public if part of their job or school. It's cute though, so whatever.
https://files.catbox.moe/jryyfz.png

Afterwards he takes Ema shopping for a new blouse, then walks her halfway home. Seems like Ema was expecting more, but Tetsuya keeps his promise. No sex for 4 months and while he'll cheat on his wife ... with his wife, that was a one time deal. Ema tries to act like she's not disappointed.
https://files.catbox.moe/ls098s.png

She was expecting sex with Tetsuya and takes her frustration out on her husband.
>>
the only white person in this shithole thread
>>
>>8914059
you can tell by the NTR obsession
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there is nothing wrong with ntr/nts
>>
>>8914063
my skin color looks like the right but my penis size is more like the left
>>
cuckold is high iq brahmin fetish
>>
>>8914067
is that the cow from Fallout
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>>8914070
it is
fallout 5 went to cucksidian btw
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>>8914061
>only white people like NTR
Which is why it's a top tag in Japan, right, and this is a what, Mongolian cartoon board?
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>>8914077
they count as honorary whites
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>>8914078
I find it awfully strange that people complain about a main fetish of the group of people making the art for the board they are deliberately going to.
>>
white fetishes = loli, blacked, netorare, netorase, incest (siblings)
brown fetishes = hags, milfs, incest (parents), bestiality, anal
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>>8914085
white girls would like to have a word with you
>>
>>8914085
>bestiality
why are we acting like furries aren't 90% white
>>
>>8914088
women are the niggers of sexes
>>8914089
anthro =/= bestiality
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>>8914090
they fuck dog and cat bro
>>
>women are the niggers of sexes
holy shit lmao
>>
>>8914092
One or two mentally ill individuals don't represent the whole community, you sound like a Jew
>>
>>8914101
you sound like a furry
>>
speaking of jews, why can't they make real life traps and shemales look like this?
>https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/11783440
>>
the whitest= otoko no ko
>>
>>8914102
scared you got found out?
>>8914106
TRVKE
>>
>hags
Does Misato count?
>milfs
Not really.
>incest (parents)
No.
>bestiality
Absolutely not.
>anal
Gross. No.
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>>8914085
>loli and anal separate
ngmi
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>>8914107
if you're a furry just tell me. i can't do anything to you, so why hide it?
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>>8914108
>Gross. No.
is thinking about shit while seeing imaginary female a mental disorder?
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>thinking about shit
personally, that's what makes anal hot for me
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>>8914106
post some then
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>>8914085
guess i'm spiritually brown
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>>8914085
what's stopping you from doing all of those at different intervals?
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>>8914118
posted already (a year ago)
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>>8914124
repost them (only if they are cute)
>>
Why would people settle for hags for any fucking reason that is not desperation? Why would you actively seek hag porn? What is wrong with some people?
>>
>>8914127
same mentality as bestiality only applied to males
>>
>>8914125
sorry chud, i'm here only for shitposting now
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>>8914127
I like big titties
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>>8914127
what's wrong with a sexy hag?

>>8914131
what a pussy
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>>8914132
we invented oppai loli for a reason
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>>8914132
JKs exist
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>>8914134
they look weird
>>8914135
jks are hags in anime terms
>>
>>8914127
erotic mature female (smelly) (unshaven) (plump)
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>>8914118
sorry meant for >>8914112
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>>8914136
>jks are hags in anime terms
lolwat
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>>8914136
>anime terms
reddit terms, retard
you have to be really mindbroken to call youthful looking female with big tits, a hag, so everybody knows that you are not problematic age gap diddyblud
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>>8914127
Ones that get labeled a hag in anime are late 20s anyway, barely out of college.

I think it's mainly for variety's sake. Teens get annoying with their tsundere drama, and furious blushing about an indirect kiss. Sometimes you just want to unwind and enjoy.
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>>8914141
>Sometimes you just want to unwind and enjoy.
slutty gyarus?
>>
>>8914139
>>8914140
the only difference between asuna from ba and yotsuba maya is a slight bit of tareme. anime girls show no signs of aging beyond 16
>>8914140
your retardation stems from making this about real women
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>>8914142
Not quite the same but yeah, that works too
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>>8914143
>your retardation stems from making this about real women
you're the biggest retard in a while
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>>8914147
spoken like a true reactionary
>>
>>8914145
finally some food.
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>>8914148
kek, read your own post, autistic zoomie
>>
no argument
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>>8914141
>Teens get annoying with their tsundere drama, and furious blushing about an indirect kiss
Not when tied and defenseless tho
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>>8914155
Why is she tied up as well?
>>
@fire-inc is my favorite hag artist
>>
>ayakon out of nowhere
>>
why are all the schizos posting here suddenly
>>
>sir solangeanon out of nowhere
>>
>>8914161
the high /hgg/ council (/hhggc/) has decided to relocate all the schizos here for the sake of calm lora discussion in the better thread
>>
>>8914161
all me
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>V4.5 so bad nobody is posting images
i believe it.
>>
>unc is still baking loras in the year 2020+6
grim
>>
unc is still eating food in the year 2030 A.D.
grime
>>
>unc is lusting after anime GIRLS in 2026
:skull:
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>>8914171
>GIRLS
you mean anime women above the age of 18 that could in theory consent if they were real and also are within 3 years of your own age so it isn't creepy?
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>>8914172
>women
>under 30
>>
>gens
>posting
>>
>>8914172
>women above the age of 18
i see sometimes "17.99" memes and i know they lost touch with reality at least 10 years ago
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Save for the nonsensical position of the walls and doors, this is quite impressive of Anima to be able to get right where I wanted the girl o be.

Architecture is always iffy, but one day it will get there.
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Sex with Mary Stewart after class.
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>>8914184
waow what model is this?
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>>8914183
i thought you made the environment with a different model and inpainted the girl. pretty impressive if it made the whole thing desu
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>>8914185
Just WaiIllustrious 17 with secret dmain as the artist, someone reminded me last thread I hadn't updated from 15.
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>>8913721
this dino mix is so fucking god awful, it looks like grey slop people were posting of eps noob, cant you make somethin new? Pic rel.
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>>8914183
I used to think it was all about model size, but isn't Anima's Unet smaller than SDXL? it often does real-world objects better than base SDXL, despite the anime finetune. The same made pony and illu forget most non-booru knowledge.
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>>8914197
Anima is capable in the oddest of things. I cannot yet understand the thought process for what it does well and what it can't.
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>>8914207
It is smaller, yes. Older models were bigger, but hallucinated really badly as well.

Hell, I recall Pony making the shittiest of furniture unless you beat it into submission with controlnet and heavy inpainting.
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>>8914210
I ran a few tests with guns and cars, also a big difference. Noob couldn't get the relative scale right with race queens sitting on cars, here you can even ask for a lambo or a ferrrari.
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>>8914205
already did anilingus some days ago
>https://litter.catbox.moe/d8e53xcnir2u9r5d.png
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chat is this real
https://x.com/OOO_ouja13/status/2077404181736857832
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>>8914205
Good style.
>>8914214
Garbage new-age noodleslop.
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>>8914214
Yeah that wasn't my point but here's another dino mix from everyones beloved V29+Cyberfix sloppa
>>8914218
I genuinely have a hard time replicating the style + lighting in some of my old images. Sad.
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>>8914219
>Yeah that wasn't my point
what was your point then
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>>8914205
I'm zooming in on this grey 4ch VAE anilingus picture of all things, and I love it. This mellow, natural texture, noisy in just the right way, hnnnnngggg, you could fool me and say it's a page scan and I'd believe you. Most real art looks more artificial than this. It's perfect, maybe I'll frame in on a wall or something.
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>>8913889
>"show us what you can do with pure t2i and without relying on existing IPs!"
>lolcal absolutely fucking seethes
eeeyuuup, lolcal behavior
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>>8914241
OC characters aren't anime.
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>>8914242
based
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>anima is just as good as v4.5 if not better!
>nai is just a <model that doesn't even have the right license> finetune!
>nai is using <local bandaid tech>!
people don't actually believe this, right?
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>>8914250
the only thing I can't believe is that NAIggers actually give anlantan money each month
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"why would you give money to restaurants? the stuff you can find in the garbage bins at the back is FREE!"
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>>8914183
just do what real artists do
>superimpose anime girl into real image
>???
>profit
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>>8914256
$25 at Mcdonald's has more value than your saas failbake.
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>>8914184
Coming home to Mary Stewart acting as your little housewife.
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>>8914276
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>>8914277
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>>8914278
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>>8914279
Is she pregnant or fat?
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pony bros are eating good
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>>8914283
Pregnant.
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what happened to darknessfag
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>NAI IS FINISHED
NAI IS FINISHED
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>>8914307
good riddance
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>>8914307
what happened?
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>>8914307
>not even 10 mins
seethe lolcaloid
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nai is just that good
lolcal is just that bad
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all notable tablet users are on local
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>https://x.com/SloboMiloAlt/status/2077427157173703163
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>>8914320
Hmmm, true. Thing is, you just don't need the tablet with NovelAI. It's a solution to a problem unique to local...
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>>8914326
then you can't be artist using nai
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>>8914327
Why? You can still use the tablet if it's that important to you. It would just be inefficient considering there are better tools at your disposal. But you know, some people still like sending letters to each other despite there being phones and internet. No judgement!
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>>8912711
box please?
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Holy shit, someone in here besides noodlekek genuinely likes that ugly style. Terrifying...
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>>8914336
b0x?
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>>8914279
box pls
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>>8914335
why you hate anime
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>>8914335
i don't like it, but it's the least aesthetically offensive style posted here regularly
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>>8914341
Idk, why does their skin look freshly rotten and covered in gutter oil from India? Why is it so yellow? Where is the nice red color coming through with subsurface scattering? All that comes through their skin is more yellow and brown. The texture on men is appalling too, just endless shades of brown in painterly strokes that look more like compression artifacts.
Yes, there are worse styles: maybe some newbie can't yet discern plastic AI look. Or someone who isn't a newbie but blind like bluvoll. But this? This is a deliberate choice. You have eyes yet you chose ugly.
Grim.
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let me guess, it's emnafag on shitposting spree again
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who
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( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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>>8914357
boob rings my beloved. welcome back to hell.
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Noodlekek's recent favorite skin texture (the one on 1girls):
https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-old-decomposing-rotten-ham-pieces-57934212.html
Compare to >>8912711
Kinda close no?
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poop :D
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>>8914341
for me I hate AI anime. real anime is great. anime screenshot gets a pass too. even Ayakon can look ok some times.
>>8914209
catbox?
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>>8914348
>>8914363
i mean yeah the mix has it's problems but so does anima, it's that or go back to sdxl
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Wanted to say something nice too, since it's always nothing or bad things, which is a bit unfair.
Kinda tired of scrolling up tho...
This >>8892565 was Nice with a capital N but I already said so.
Sigh... gotta go more up!
>>8878399 very good ass.
There, I'm a good person now.
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>>8914382
those are old SDXL gens, not really the point of your ""complaint"" here
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drumpf nuke mexico plsssss
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is mexico in the room with us right now?
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>>8914384
Well sorry then, guess I just can't find a single appealing Anima gen of yours...
Fine, I'll unfocus my eyes really hard so it's super blurry and say that >>8913153 I really like when Firefly is happy, makes me smile too.
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>>8914388
didn't you say that the enma gen that I posted on the other thread was cute, as well as the le malin one? they have the same mix
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>>8914390
>the other thread
8? I only lurk there. The only time I posted were 2 komodj decensors more than a month ago. If you mean that NAI guy, that's probably the one I steal mixes from.
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>>8914392
the last /hgg/ thread
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>/hgg/ still exists
grim
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>>8914393
The cow was Enma Ai?
Grim. Anima just samefaces everyone, doesn't learn any face details at all. I just thought it was some random girl I never saw before making cute face near horse cock.
Yes those 2 look better, doesn't mean the mix is good if it produces all that other vomit though.
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cause of meltie?
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new village toilet just dropped.
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>>8914393
>>8914402
Show the Enma gen?
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too many hombres itt
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Who is noodlekek? ;(
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business idea: enma ai if anime
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who
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enema
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even better, enma as fat hag
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who??
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why is lil blud whohing
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where
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mr. bobbles xinsir upscaling trick works really well and is even faster with DMD2. why don't more pillars use this?
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what
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How you gonna xinsir with Anima, mr. sir?



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