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Communist North Vietnam attacked the Republic of Vietnam without provocation in an attempt to forcibly unify Vietnam under the North’s rule. The US was aiding it’s ally that was under attack.
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>>17953792
the "republic of vietnam" was an authoritative regime itself, deeply corrupt, installed as a western puppet from the beginning. honestly, objectively, it was even less legitimate than communist vietnam.
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>>17953792
>North and South
Same people, morons
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>>17953792
The Gulf of Tonkin incident has been discredited for decades now. It was staged by the south as an excuse for full invasion of the north.

Gulf of Tonkin is like one of the most well known conspiracy cover ups which actually was true.
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>>17954024
> the "republic of vietnam" was an authoritative regime itself
More countries in Asia were authoritarian back then (see Taiwan and South Korea for example). Does that make them illegitimate countries? Asians value collectivism over individualism, so naturally it was going to take them longer to adopt western style democracy.
> deeply corrupt
Corruption happens in more or less every country.
> installed as a western puppet from the beginning
Communist propaganda. Both North and South Vietnam were sovereign, independent countries. If you’re claiming that South Vietnam was a “western puppet” because it was supported by America then at least be consistent and say North Vietnam was a “Soviet puppet” for being supported by the USSR.
> honestly, objectively, it was even less legitimate than communist vietnam.
The Vietnamese didn’t think so. When the country was partitioned in two, more Vietnamese fled South than North.
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>>17954046
Same people, different countries.
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>>17954051
Even without Gulf of Tonkin, America was right to support South Vietnam. The communists were the aggressors.
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>>17954090
>If you’re claiming that South Vietnam was a “western puppet” because it was supported by America then at least be consistent and say North Vietnam was a “Soviet puppet” for being supported by the USSR.

The communist nations in Asia are far more autonomous than the capitalist ones. There are zero Russian soldiers in China, DPRK, Vietnam.
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>>17954104
Because Russia is no longer a superpower. Back during Soviet times, they absolutely did have military bases in these countries (baring China due to the Sino-Soviet split)
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>>17954096
Different divisions by colonialism.
>>17954171
Ho Chi Minh death prevented bloodshed between Soviet’s red army and Mao China
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>>17953792
pew pew pew
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>>17954090
>bro the others do it too
stupid argument

> If you’re claiming that South Vietnam was a “western puppet” because it was supported by America

it was literally formed as a western puppet anon
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>>17953792
Friendly reminder that his Vietnamization plan would have worked if the sissy democrats in congress didn't ruin everything.
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>>17953792
Internal affairs of other countries are INTERNAL AFFAIRS. Learn this, you fucking Yankee, and go take care of your country.
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>>17953792
Overthrowing Diem was a mistake
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>>17954436
Diems days were numbered, letting a military clique coup him was a better option than waiting until a full-scale revolution broke out.
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>>17954360
>it was literally formed as a western puppet anon
Sure bud, and I’m the reincarnation of Julius Caesar
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Gulf of tonkin is a false flag. Everything you do is lies like your father

Usa is satan
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>>17954104
>The communist nations in Asia are far more autonomous than the capitalist ones.
Not at all.
>There are zero Russian soldiers in China, DPRK, Vietnam.
The USSR provided military support to all those countries. There were US troops stationed in RoK and South Vietnam because both those countries were attacked unprovoked by their Northern communist neighbour.
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>>17954310
>Different divisions by colonialism
The partition of Vietnam was necessary as both the communists and nationalists who had fought the French wanted their own state.
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>>17953792
The only mistake the USA made regarding Vietnam was leaving the CIA in the country to maintain power while the military had already up and left.
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>>17954360
>it was literally formed as a western puppet anon
False.
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>>17954384
>noooooooooo you have to let communists wage wars of aggression against US allies!1!1!1
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>>17954090
>South Vietnam was a sovereign, independent country
>but it needed US conscripts to protect itself from being overthrown by the South Vietnamese people
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>>17955718
>being overthrown by the South Vietnamese people
Correction, it was overthrown by Soviet-backed communists, not by the south Vietnamese people
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>>17955614
>le wojak
Pure Amerimutt cope.
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>>17955607
Nationalist lost
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_conflicts_in_Vietnam_(1945%E2%80%931949)
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>>17954090
>Corruption happens in more or less every country
Even Scandinavian ones?
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>>17956880
The current prime minister of Sweden hired a retard who leaves top secret files in public locker rooms as a national security advisor because they were best friends growing up.
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>>17955718
> being overthrown by the South Vietnamese people
Viet Cong didn’t represent most South Vietnamese
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>>17956176
I’m not American, tankie.



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