what is the best argument in favor of islam? especially against christianity
1 + 1 + 1 = 3. That's their best one from what I've heard.
>>17958598Arabs are too retarded to understand algebra.
>>17958597You need praxis to experience religion, christianity sublates praxis with metaphysics, therefore you can't experience christianity.The counterargument isn't metaphyiscs vs metaphysics like with tawhid – it's sharia.
sodomy is even more prominent in islamn which is great
>abrahamic nonsensethrow it all in the trash
>>17958597None. For starters, Islam like all religions is false. Even their best is still not gonna change that fact. Second, Islam has a very different history. Christians and Jews are very used to debating outsiders with different beliefs. Islam just killed them all. So their apologetics are embarrassingly bad even compared to most religious apologetics. It's like a kindergartener trying to debate a seasoned scholar. It's just really hard to do. Islam has to be 2nd or 3rd most blatantly bullshit and wrong religion next to Scientology and Mormonism.
>>17959365>Christians and Jews are very used to debating outsidersYou just grew up in a christian culture so you're susceptible to it. Flying rabbis and contradicting scriptures sounds equally bullshit to outsiders
>>17959377I know. My point is Muslims have worse apologetics arguments. Christians and Jews for example get into prime mover arguments and try to use more elaborate flimflam to hoodwink you. Muslims just go "inshallah this verse is clearly a scientific miracle" or even shittier since they don't have a long history of trying or having to bullshit you. They just used force. So they have a lack of a head start on actually trying to convince people. Not that Christianity or all the rest are more believable as in the stories. But the mental gymnastics they use to try to work around it.
>>17958597Islam was created so that the godless abominations with no spirit could have an alternative to being destroyed like they deserve.
>>17958597None, which is why they tried to kill everyone before they could actually be questioned.
>>17958597jebus cripes spam your retarded islam shit somewhere else
>>1795859772 virgins.
>>17959485you are so fucking stupid https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/arabic-islamic-causation
>>17958605this must be bait
>>17958597You're in for a lot of disappointment, because islam was originally a christian movement. Lift the crescent, you'll find a cross under it.
>>17958597It civilizes the lesser races without corrupting Christendom.
>>17958597New things are better, so Mohamed must be better than all the other Semitic prophets.
>>17959234>You need praxis to experience religion, christianity sublates praxis with metaphysics,Protestantism, you mean to say. Catholicism and Orthodoxy do have praxis, that is the main divide that separates Catholics and Orthodox from Protestants, they believe works are just as important as faith.
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>>17958597There literally isn't any to be honest.
>>17959908christianity delegates religiosity to one day per week, and even then all their women are whores, and they live secular lives where they party and suck penises, they never ever approach any transcendent ideals.
>>17958597It unified Arabia (and North Africa) into something that could rival both the Persian and Byzantine empires.It denounced (and ultimately replaced) the child-sacrificing pagan traditions of Arabia.>>17959891>New things are betterCouldn't have said it better myself.
>>17958597Islam is the best model to bring peace and eliminate cannibalistic ideologies like racialism, nationalism, tribalism, etc. Islam understands that world peace can't happen until the slate is clean. And the slate can't be cleaned unless there's a lot of destruction and bloodshed.Compared to indojeet polytheism, which likes to pick and choose when to kill and subjugate defenseless people (especially women) to steal their shit (usually during periods of social collapse) and when to relish in their riches and have sex with men, Islam is all about their mission. All the time.Christianity flirts with polytheism and has no consistency in either its message, mission, or its goals. It's just a vehicle for grifters. The crusades were an early beta test for future colonization. They used their illegitimate kingdoms to prop up banks and hoard wealth from the silk road instead of making the world a better place. Christians in the East have seen the error in their ways and converted to Islam because of this.
>>17960255Trvth
>>17960229>christianity delegates religiosity to one day per weekSo does Islam? You have to go to the Mosque every Friday.>nd even then all their women are whoresMuslim women are some of the biggest sluts out there. They make a fetish out of wearing hijab while sucking dick.>and they live secular lives where they party and suck penisesBoy you should know the kind of stuff that happens in Saudi Arabia. Did you know that there are gay sexual encounders in Meccah all the time?
>>17958597>I am retarded.>Therefore, Islam. Any questions?
>>17959338Have fun burning.
>>17960255Uh-huh.Its the most racist religion in the world
>>17959298kek
>>17960411Muslims pray 5 times per day and regularly gather for dhikr; the rest is pornbrained 4chan fantasy, everyone knows muslim women are far superior to used up christian sluts that "repent" and marry some virgin cuck.
>>17960229>Christianity delegates religiosity to one day per weekWow guess devotionals aren't a thing, guess Bible study isn't real, guess there's no such thing as pilgrimages, guess Lent isn't real, forget about daily Mass, and confession? Never heard of it. Guess no Christian charitable organizations exist.
>>17960576Do you think secular Muslim societies don't exist? Have you ever been to Turkey? Secularism isn't exclusively a thing that affects Christian societies, you know?
>>17960596>Do you think secular Muslim societies don't exist?Not him but no they dont exist. >Have you ever been to Turkey?Yes, Turkey is only liberal and comopoliton in SOME of the cities on the European side, elsewhere its mostly a backward shithole, islamism and their rhetoric is rampant in non urban societies. The ruling elites are all Islamists, all their alignment is islamist (e.g Syrian Civil War) Turning the Hagia Sophia in a mosque is about as anti secular as it could get.>Secularism isn't exclusively a thing that affects Christian societies, you know?Too bad for you it is the idea of the modern secular is a exclusively European idea that only applies in the context of European societies, they made the leap and committed to it. Islamic societies cannot and will not be secular, they are more concerned about the indoctrination they get from islamic schools and every friday they spend praying for the death and ruin of every non-muslim. you cannot simply turn it off, thats what Ataturk tried and he failed cause its back to anti-secularism.
>>17960451Like it or not, Arab muftis get Islam right. That's why they're considered blessed.Turks don't. Churkas don't. Bosniaks and all the other balkan muslims don't. Afghans even get it wrong. They all secretly drink alcohol and have gay sex.It is more legitimate than Jews being considered God's chosen in the Bible and Talmud "just because".The most racist religion in the world was Mormonism. Modern day, it's Western Christianity. And it became that way because the church has been coopted by white nationalists for hundreds of years. That's why, once again, Christians in the East have converted in the last few hundred years.
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>>17961200They converted due to the societal pressures of the Islamic hellhole they live in because muzzies go out of their way to inconvenience non Muslims all for conversion or to exile them out of dar-al Harb. This is exactly how the kikes also play and islam is a cult of jews that have captured a large portion of the world and subjected them to brainwashing. Ghulam and golem are cognate, Ghulam is exactly how non Arabs were bought initially to the Islamic fold
>>17961202That's an iranian/afghan. Not an arabThey are whiter than italians.>>17961209Wrong wrong wrong wrong. Bad mutt. No big mac for you. Bad. None of that is true and you don't have a single source that proves it.Ghulams, yeni ceries, mamluks, all ignoble niggers of ignorant origin. Congrats on cracking the code, that SLAVE soldiers are SLAVES for a reason. They should be thankful to be given an opportunity to serve such a noble cause. But as we see in real life, they'd rather use their former indentured servitude to say that they "ruled" over Arabs in their short unimpressive history.
>>17961236we have centuries of arabic poets writing homoerotic poetry about cup bearers and handsome servants kek
>>17958597Exact type of a religion (among the most widespread ones) doesn't matter. They're fucking the same in most important aspects. The crux is in particular people in particular times: religious and political leaders which can be more or less retarded psychopathic and bloodthirsty irrespective on the exact religion they proclaim to follow.
>>17961236Pfft way to be even more wrong and retarded by trying to sound cool. Must be a special skill or is it special needs?
>>17961239you have a cherrypicked exerpt from an unsourced book.>>17961414>prfffft brapp u dumb me smartkiss the pavement, pigskin
>>17958598https://youtu.be/Pz-Sx1y0raw>>17958597>especially against christianityErp!
>>17958597>what is the best argument in favor of islam?The modern west. It's evil, immoral, degenerate, jewish. Every single aspect of it is disgusting, if there ever even was any redeeming qualities about it they are long gone.
>>17958597Tye best argument in favor of Islam is the fact that it won.Even the faithful in Bethlehem converted to the true religion.Occultists from the fake continent laying across the bosphorus strait will never see their fabled church of nativity.
>>17958597>guys please create my arguments for me pleaseImagine how intellectually void your religion has to be to beg strangers online for arguments because thinking isn’t allowed. If Islam didn’t spread by the sword it literally could not have spread because it’s impossible to convince people of this sandnigger gibberish.
>>17959338“Abrahamic” is a humanist term created by Jews in the 1600’s to make judaism seem more socially acceptable. Your culture is so subverted by kikes that you can’t even distinguish between what is kike terminology and what are genuine sentiments. You’re the goodest goy who ever was because you cannot think nor conduct research but just parrot. Now, continue to attack your own history and do all the jews work for them like the retarded goy of the year you are.
>>17960255>Islam is the best model to bring peace and eliminate cannibalistic ideologies like racialism, nationalism, tribalism, etc.Tribalism is why they split into Sunni and Shi'a in the first place. Tribalism was the number one problem of islamic courts. They're still largely organized around tribes up to this day.
>>17958597Judaism's continued existence. Christians rather foolishly show them mercy at all. Islam can not only organize but fiercely combat it. However as we've seen Islam is too blunt as an instrument.
>>17962551Bro skipped Ottoman history entirely.
>>17962546Ships are a minority sect.Tribalism isn't characteristic to Islam. It's characteristic to some Arab nations. Likely because that's how they survived.That can change with peace
>>17958597>What is the best argument in favor of browns running religious institutionsYou'd have to come up with a reasonable argument for browns existing, and nobody has. They mostly seem to be a detriment to any place, culture, religion, or institution in which they exist and they drag down the statistical averages of the rest of humanity by continuing to live. If there is an argument in favor, it is perhaps that they fight and kill each other a lot, and so islam at large does a reasonably good job of de-browning the planet to some small degree. Unfortunately, its also an institution pushing a pro-brown point of view, which eliminates any help they might have been in the wash.
>>17962558Which part exactly are you pointing me towards? Prove your antisemitism (ie nobility).
>>17960451So racist that turks and persians ruled half of the islamic world for centuries. Uhuh. And arabs lost almost all their influence after the abbasid caliphate collapsed.
>>17962574>lives a sedentary life style conceived by the browns he seethe aboutyou are not a woman
>>17962583poorsians didnt rule shit retard, they were ruled by foreigners for 1500 years
>>17962611Half of the turkic empires were so Persianized to the point they only spoke persian and persian was the language of administration, trade, and culture, i don't think this is the gotcha you think it is
>>17962628>they conquered, raped and slaughtered us but at least they used our language for formal stuffnice cope poorsian faggot
>>17958597If you practice islam you can marry multiple children and you can beat them if they don't listen!There you go Mohammed
>>17962875But enough about about judeochristian prophets like Isaac
>>17958597The origin of this retarded religion is that a power-hungry horn-dog claimed to see angels in a cave. And it just spiraled from there. No eye witnesses. Not even the claim of eye witnesses. It's as retarded as mormonism.
>>17962956>The origin of this retarded religion is that a product of adultery claimed to be god. And it just spiraled from there. No eye witnesses. Not even the claim of eye witnesses. It's as retarded as mormonism.
>>17960255Oh, yeah, because what we need is religious maoism, lol.Sure helped the muslim world nowadays be a beacon of science, technology, political philosophy and stability.
>>17962970Your meme skills are quite shit. You should put a bullet in your own brain. :)
>>17962881>judeochristianSorry I am strictly new testament. The Bible was clear that it fulfills the old testament meaning following the new rules means that you don't have to worry about the old ones.Also there was nothing about Issac marrying a child it even says that she was of marriageable age
>>17962984It literally did though. Eurangatans would still live in straw huts if Muslims didn't extend the courtesy of exporting concepts like algebra and the negative number (from India) to your fake continent.
>>17962249Dancing boys have historically been ubiquitous across the MENAstan.
>>17963595really? wow thats crazyyou're still not a womanhttps://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/trans-population-by-country
>>17959563With every 72 virgins, comes 72 mothers-in-law.
