>invents literally all culture in america, white and black
>culture>americaUnless you consider interracial porn and goyslop that
>>17959707What is the metric for significant figure here, how many shekels you give to your sabbos goy every payday?
>>17959712>bluegrass, country, rag time, rock, jazz blues,>southern gothic, the entire modernist movement in poetry, gonzo journalism, swing dancing, clog dancing>gospels, appalachian quilting, appalachian dulcimers, unique food traditions, bourbonYea totally zero culture here. God you people are retarded.
>>17959719>Heh, you see, actually our army of German Jew Marxist 48ers whose sole objective was to force racial integration & give black people citizenship was secretly based and right wingMental illness.
>>17959720>the entire modernist movement in poetryThat is negative culture, it annuls all other cultural achievements.
>>17959750>actually T.S Eliot is anti-cultureSee >>17959720, you are retarded.>>17959742Which wouldn't happen because the South was infinitely more likely to deport the nogs when agriculture was mechanized than the Union ever was when ending slavery. The world we see today is the fruit of Union victory.
Hey that's not true the north invented nigger worship
>>17959854You are very obviously coping here. I don't know why, though. Your side won. You destroyed the only vestige of haute-culture within the New World, you looted and plundered and turned the South into a peripheral economic colony for the enrichment of Ellis Islanders & Jews. You won. We lost. Why are you so upset with the world your side helped create? Also, your understanding of Southern economy & most importantly agriculture is wildly inaccurate as all serious studies of antebellum Southern agriculture show. The South was mostly dominated by middle class farmers who owned a handful of slaves, the idea that it was a small elite of mega-plantation owners is objectively incorrect; the few mega plantations that did exist, mostly in coastal areas, operated more like Agri-Business with multiple investors and distributed stock ownership rather than as some noble estate (that was more the middle class way of slavery). The South was founded EXPLICITLY as a herrenvolk democracy, had it won, blacks would never be granted citizenship, never be granted rights, and mechanization reducing labor power needs for cotton/sugar/rice would mean there'd be little reason to keep them around if they became problems.
>>17959873The average slave owner wasn't that guy from Django Unchained, it was Jesse James' family, who had a small to medium sized commercial family farm and four or so slaves. Slave ownership was relatively evenly distributed and middle class.
>>17959689Yankee culture is literally the world’s default culture. You don’t perceive it because it’s so ubiquitous
>>17959874>The American Constitution banned importation of slaves after 20 years. The CSA Constitution liftedThis is where I stopped reading. The C.S Constitution kept the ban intact. This shows you know absolutely nothing about what you are talking about and can safely be ignored. You should read this book, you might actually understand what the C.S.A is then but you seem too far into your delusions to save sadly.
>>17959880What people view as American culture in other countries is usually Southern culture. Rock? Southern. Bluegrass? Southern. Go ask a foreigner to do an American accent and they'll usually mimic a Southern one. There isn't a ubiqutious Yankee culture because there is no Yankee culture. What Yankees exported to the rest of the world was their commercialization of the South.
>>17959866Generally, the South was herrenvolk democrat and didn't have much class distinction; slaveholding was encouraged for all whites, and slave rentals were even a thing. There wasn't as much class distinction as existed in the North, there were country gentlemen (planters) and then farmers. The difference between them was pretty thin, and they constantly fraternized and were reliant upon each other. Class warfare was one of the main critiques the Confederacy had of the North; that slavery actually diffused class tensions, and made everybody into an aristocrat.
>>17959938That was Fitzhugh, not Stephens, and the Confederacy was divided between white herrenvolk democrats and reactionary Terdium Quids. Again, read >>17959884 the book in this post.
>>17959781>the south would deport blacksLmao. In what fucking world? They literally started a war and founded a country on the basis of slave ownership. It was literally the cornerstone of their country and was enshrined in biblical terms. Not to mention that the boll weevil was waiting in the wings to implode the entire southern economy, which wouldn't have had the capital or foreign market demand to finance mechanization. The CSA wouldn't have ever made it to mechanization, even if they won the war at the First Bull Run in 1861. A country with a third of their population as slaves on the verge of the first socialist and anarchist movements with a hostile industrialized neighbor with a long and indefensible land border? They didn't have a prayer. They'd be a powder keg waiting for a slave revolt that would make Nat Turner look like the most servile house slave that ever was.
>>17959892it's easier to be laid back and have fun in the warm year round Southern weather, in northern states the energy expended on surviving the winter months occupied a lot of people's time
>>17959884The CSA's constitutional ban was a bid to attract Virginia. When the CSA ratified their constitution, Virginia hadn't yet had a secession convention. As the state with the most industry and wealth in the south, securing them was vital to the viability of the Confederate country. Virginia, in turn, was the largest source for the interstate slave trade. There were numerous rich men and banks who made their money on moving slaves raised in Virginia and they formed a wealthy and influential bloc that that could sway the state's coming convention. The ban on the slave imports wasn't any sort of moral act, but a protectionist measure to secure the backing of a key group in the Virginia.Secondarily, it was done to try and paper over international problems. The British and French, who owned the mills that the CSA needed to move cotton to, thought slavery was an abomination at this point. Britain in particular had spent a lot of money and naval resources on annihilating the west African slave trade. Opening the international trade back up would put the CSA into an undeclared naval war with the two powers that they desperately needed the support of.
>>17959938in the years following Reconstruction popular democracy in the South was largely suppressed so that only the elite class in practice had the franchise which ensured a Democrat monopoly for 70 years
>>17959938There was a generational shift as the Founding generation died off. The generation that came up during the Jacksonian era had a different mentality, they came to believe slavery was not merely a temporary evil that would go away in time but a necessary good that had to be upheld.
>>17959714You're an ignorant fuck jsyk.
>>17960247The average American looked at coons like they were a wild animal. That's why blackface was so popular because it was so wild a concept to have black skin and act so foolish. Like a cartoon character
>>1795972090% of the stuff you named here is relevant today
Virginia is the only state that matters.
>>17959689These threads are made by jews.Anglos north or south must go.Jews north or south must go.This is Axis country now.
>>17959707what was the massive spike in Connecticut and Rhode Island?
>>17959872>The late 19th century anarchist and Marxist movements would absolutely terrify the aristocracy with visions of dirt poor whites and free blacks cooperating against them; I'd bet good money on something like the Paris Commune taking place in New Orleans due to the city's differing culture, attitude towards race, and lack of nearby power centers.Louisiana was the one place in the south where IWW labor anarchism had any impact. There were some intellectuals in New Orleans but most of the action took place in the woods where black and white loggers organized under the IWW. There were scenes straight out of a John Sayles movie with black and white workers coming together at a segregated hall after some rousing speech. Of course the timber barons eventually put an end to the union but it was an interesting chapter to Louisiana and a precursor to populist heroes like Huey Long.
>>17960903that was because Louisiana was the only significant location where Ellis Islanders showed up in the South and they brought all their commie brickabrack with them from the old country
>>17959707You could name probably a dozen men from Virginia who played integral, if not leadership, roles in the founding and early days of the American republic. Washington, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, Tyler, WH Harrison were all born in Virginia, and those were just presidents. If you include men like George Mason and Patrick Henry, the list broadens. Andrew Jackson and James Polk were born in NC and John C Calhoun was from SC and neither of them are included. It’s missing a lot of southerners on purpose. This chart sucks.
>>17959874Interesting post, anon. I grapple with understanding the confederacy. Why did the southern states not just secede and maintain their own sovereignty without creating a new service organization/nation? Jefferson Davis never seemed truly sympathetic to the southern cause from what I’ve read. More of an opportunist. Your insight appreciated if you have a differing view.
>>17959892Based
>>17959707What is this meant to prove? Virginia is "The South" at that time. The rest below that was just slutty Cherokee potato women and Scottish rednecks until they started growing more than tobacco.
>>17959854Anon, I’ve enjoyed your posts ITT. Can you explain the freemasonry connection to the civil war a bit more? Are you implying that men like John C Calhoun and Francis Pickens were acting at the behest of British freemasonry? Were none of these men genuine and true in their beliefs? And what do you make of the rumors that President Lincoln was a high-ranking mason as were his union generals? Also, any further reading you recommend on the Masonic ties to the civil war?
>>17959854You can tell this is horse shit because all the welsh went to pennsylvania with the quakers
>>17960930>that was because Louisiana was the only significant location where Ellis Islanders showed up in the South and they brought all their commie brickabrack with them from the old countryTrue, but most of the energy for the logger’s union and other radical movements was native redneck populism. New Orleans was never very leftist—corrupt unions and Tammany style Democratic machines, bohemians in the French Quarter—and those immigrant groups were just as culturally conservative as their Ellis Island brethren in Brooklyn and Philly, with fresh off the boat commies afraid to make trouble in a southern city.
>>17959689Texas literally sold some of its state to Oklahoma so Texas could keep slaves lol
>>17961883>The Confederate Constitution does not guard states' rights except for two cases:1). The Confederate government cannot make domestic improvements with the aim to facilitate commerceSo they were against any kind of Whiggish internal improvements? Interesting because many southern railroads were built by the states while the north relied on private capital. To this day the CSX mainline from Atlanta to Chattanooga is run on a long term lease from the state of Georgia dating back to the antebellum Western and Atlantic. During the war this led to a lot of problems with state governments throwing hissy fits when Confederate authorities tried to do anything with state owned railroads. State’s rights autism trumped military necessity numerous times.
>>17961883Stephen Douglas was a corrupt loser in the same vein as Lincoln. That's why the 1860 election was such a farce. Lincoln rigged the primaries to become the Republican nominee and Douglas was basically blue Lincoln. It should be noted that both Lincoln and Douglas tried to marry the same woman who was the goddaughter of prominent politicians in the Midwest. The south did not reject popular sovereignty, it knew it was owed states in the west. It was carved into the foundation of US tradition that states were split 50/50 north and South and even Douglas is a way no longer supported that Popular sovereignty was less this political life raft and more a shot in the dark policy wise owing to the hamstrung half baked nature of populist politics of the time. The south hated government spending because half the money always got embezzled which is exactly what happened when the industrialists took over under Lincoln
>>17962333>Albion's seedThis is conspiratorial nonsense. Most of the people in Virginia were indentured servants in order to pay for the fare over to the US. This also serves as a boot camp where settlers were taught how to clear virgin land for farming and setting up a viable farm. This was the peak of the American immigration system and is probably why new england floundered into irrelevancy.
>>17962333Brits were probably afforded a bit of autonomy due to how much money the Normans were pulling out with trumped up charges and usury
>>17962336Wait so the Whigs started the slave trade and then fucked their colonies with niggers and then freed them
>>17962396Hmm. I wonder if this has anything to do with the conspiracy by the scots to start a colony in Panama
>>17962336>whole host of conspiracies and theories around the links it still might have with the United States Independence/Civil War through proxy countries with business/debt on their stock exchanges, such as France, Spain, Post-Independence Hispanic America, etc...This is interesting. Are you referring to the theory that the Americans actually lost the revolutionary war, Washington was a British agent, Virginia company, etc? Also, you may like a book called How the Nation was Won, if you haven’t read it already.
>>17962420There's a thread I picked up where the English central bank was the idea of a scottish pirate and he was going to use the money to set up a colony in Panama I believe
>>17959689The culture of being toothless hicks, sitting on their stoops chewing tobacky, playing banjos, racemixing and buck breaking their pet negroes?Yeah thanks a lot for the "culture", Jedediah. But uhhh nope, I don't do any of that since I'm a civilized northerner.
>>17962418So Whigs are Scottish snake oil salesmen?
Man now I'm all the way back at the hundred years' war
Our brazilian retard pretending that jacobites were in the carolinas is so retarded because in reality the americans despised jacobites and scottish jacobites were purged by american whigs after the battle of moores creek bridge when anglo american rebels destroyed a force of ex jacobite highlanders loyal to the british crownBut this retard doesn't actually know any history he just spams from schizo blogs
>>17962540He's got nothing on the masons but the Scottish kind of look like dickheads
>>17962493How specifically did the proxy war between the Normans and the city of London manifest in the civil war? Did the city of London fund the confederates to Balkanize and weaken America? Or did they fund the north in order to strengthen America because they already had complete clandestine control of it? I’ve seen both theories.
>>17962550He's saying they funded England's enemies by proxy, not that they helped the US civil war. This is why I never cared about mason stuff. Too many holes and reliance on superstition
>>17962550>>17962554You're literally responding to a schizophrenic brazilian retard who spams this board by copy and pasting schizo conspiracy blogs He's obessed with big bunda, freemasons, the occult, voodoo, never interacts with people apart from spamming shit
>>17962555He's not wrong on his information though. He never claimed anything. Presented as is the masons aren't even in this story at all. Sectarian divide in the US points back to English/French/Jew relations and English/Scottish relations apparently. All vying for control and supporting each other's downfall. What this has to do with US immigration is a mystery
>>17962566I will say that he should probably research the history of banking more because it was 50 Whigs that created the English central bank and apparently the idea was by a Scottish pirate turned philanthropist
>>17962688Oh fuck I just remembered the SCOTTISH rite.
>>17962688Fuck off brazilian spammer retardYou found a thread about the south and decided to spam your autistic conspiracy theories
>>17962728Wait aren't the Scottish rite freemasons a bunch of hippies though
>>17959781>the south would've deported their main source of income!>why? because I treat every group who even vaguely shares my views on race as a monolith that falls in line with my post-modernist drivelLiteracy was a mistake. Hitler should've finished the job and killed all of you subhuman retards.
