>Galley ships!? my God man it’s 1571 we have modern ships with sails and cannons>they’ll never see it coming>John you sonuvabitchwas it kino?
>>17962000Dead turks are always kino
>>17962005Trve
>>17962000>Pope Pius V calls up the Holy League>Pope goes around Europe leading rosary rallies>Spanish insist that Don Juan must lead the fleet>coalition almost breaks up because of Genovese Venetian rivalry>Don Juan just barely keeps everyone together>Portuguese contingent is still sailing over>no time to wait for them>prows of the galleys are cut down to allow point blank firing later>half the Ottoman fleet shredded by cannon fire before the two fleets even connect>hand to hand fighting from ship to ship>Christian galley slaves are freed and armed during the battle>Battle memorialized as the Feast of Our Lady of Victory, Our Lady of the Rosaryhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjCXogk64DU
>>17962000>>17962005>>17962008>>17962132The majority of "Turkish" sailors were Greek.
>>17962148The majority of turks are of greek ancestry. Still muslims and therefore (dis)honorary shitskins.
>>17962000CheckedBut idgi. Are you alluding to the Galleasses with your greentext?
>>17962160Poles and Russians had no qualms of using fully shitskinned mongoloid muslim Tatars and Bashkirs against Europeans.
>>17962179yes Lepanto is famously the last major conflict to include powered galley ships
>>17962337*oar powered
>>17962337That's not true. And galleys were the mainstay of fleets that operated in the mediterranean well into the 17th century
>>17962132Kino.Also, the Turkish commander was killed in the opening blow.The Spanish had revolutionized the ability to stack the entire side of a ship with cannons (instead of the traditional handful of cannons at the front of the boat), allowing them to unleash a full broadside of volley that shredded the Ottoman lines.
>>17962000Such a shame they lost the war
Yes. The author of Don Quixote lost his hand fighting in that battle.
>>17962005BASED
>the battle had no lasting impact on the Ottoman navy as the Ottomans rapidly rebuilt their fleet in under 6 monthsSounds like a good opportunity to modernize the ottoman fleet
>>17963017Cope. They lost multiple generations of skilled sailors and admirals in a single battle. It demonstrably lowered them to a B-tier power in the mediterranean
And Georgio Vasari's painting of it is in the Vatican but noone gives a shit because it's by the door of the Sistine Chapel.
>>17963017the ottoman never really recovered from their defeat at Lepanto, their momentum westward was fractured and they stagnated until their decline in the 1800s and eventually disintegrated after the first world war
>>17963017Tthe Ottomans rebuilt their fleet within a year. Still they avoided large Lepanto styles battles with the forces of the Holy League. And ultimately neither the Ottomans nor the Catholics were able to fully secure the mediterranean sea within the 16th and 17th centuries. >>17963629>>17963781The Ottomans took Tunis in 1574, three years after Lepanto and one year after the Spanish took it in 1573. After that Tunis was under ottoman control/ottoman influence until the 19th century when France conquered it.
>>17962148what's the difference?
Again, Spain saves the day.Spain played a decisive role in the Battle of Lepanto, the great naval clash fought on October 7, 1571, between the Holy League (a coalition organized by Pope Pius V) and the Ottoman Empire.Leadership and Organization: The fleet of the Holy League was commanded by Don John of Austria, the half-brother of King Philip II of Spain. His leadership was crucial in coordinating the different forces (Spanish, Venetian, Papal, and others).Spanish Naval Power: Spain contributed the largest contingent of ships, sailors, and soldiers. The Spanish galleys and heavily armed infantry, including the famous tercios, formed the backbone of the League’s striking power.Military Innovation: Spanish forces brought advanced tactics and superior artillery to the battle. Their use of heavily armed galleasses (large war galleys with broadside cannons) and disciplined infantry assaults gave the Holy League a major advantage.Strategic Influence: The victory at Lepanto halted Ottoman naval expansion in the Mediterranean. Although the Ottomans later rebuilt their fleet, the psychological and political impact of Spain’s contribution was immense. It reinforced Spain’s position as the leading Catholic and European naval power of the late 16th century. In short: Spain’s influence was decisive, providing the main leadership, ships, troops, and tactics that secured victory for the Holy League and checked Ottoman dominance in the Mediterranean.
>>17963900Keep the AI crap to yourself and learn to double check everything it says. Fucking tercios having absolute shit to do with anything on water.
>>17963904Key Tercios InvolvedTercio Viejo de Sicilia: One of the oldest and most esteemed Tercios, established in 1534 by Emperor Charles V. Stationed primarily in Sicily and Calabria, this unit was renowned for its discipline and combat prowess. The Tercio Viejo de Sicilia was actively engaged in various campaigns against the Ottomans, including the Battle of Lepanto, where they fought valiantly alongside other Christian forces. Tercio de Nápoles: Another prominent Tercio, formed to protect Spanish interests in southern Italy. This unit participated in several military operations against the Ottoman Empire, contributing to the Christian efforts during the Battle of Lepanto.Wikipedia+1Tercio de Lombardía: Based in the northern Italian region of Lombardy, this Tercio was involved in various military engagements against the Ottomans. Their participation in the Battle of Lepanto added to the strength of the Christian forces.Tercio de Flandes: Although primarily stationed in the Low Countries, elements of this Tercio were mobilized to support the Spanish-led coalition at Lepanto, showcasing the extensive reach and commitment of the Spanish military during this period.A modern account vividly describes how, aboard the flagship Real, a large body of heavily armoured Spanish Tercio infantry overwhelmed the Turkish flagship Sultana during fierce boarding comba
>>17963900Not entirely true. All of the six galleasses were part of the venetian contingent, which also consisted of 109 galley. The spanish contingent consisted of 49 galleys. But most of the soldiers aboard all the ships of the Holy League were in spanish employment, with germans and italians being also sizeale contingents.And you are overstating the broadside capabilities of the galleass - most of the firepower was still concentrated in the bow and the broadside guns were light. But this was still more than normal galleys had. What truly set a galleass apart was that it was larger than a galley and had proper fore- and aftcastles. Thus making it much more capable in a melee than a galley. At Lepanto the galleasses of the Holy League essentially were swimming fortresses that first bombarded the ottomans with their heavy bow guns and then were driven into the ottoman fleet.
>>17963904To his credit, there were naval tercios - the first one being the Tercio de Galeras, established in 1537. What sets a Tercio apart weren't pike and shot tactics or the armament of the soldiers was structured in thirds - it was the fixes organisation with an officer staff and regulated companies.
>>17963900Thanks ChatJeetP3
>>17963929Thankyou based anon, the asshole was me for assuming tercios were purely a type of formation and a doctrine of fighting on land.
>>17964701Np; I just love 16th and 17th century military history. Fun fact: in the 17th century the spanish tercios adopted the more linear dutch and swedish formations as well but the classic "checkerboard formation" was so associated with them that many battle paintings of those time depicted them in the checkerboard formation. It was a simple way of communicating which side was which by their deployment alone.
