Not the same God - obviously
>>17964642In other news, air is a gas
>>17964642Wrong One God in three Persons
>>17964669So Jesus is the same deity that ordered this? Why did he change when he put on a flesh suit?
>>17964642Romans wanted their new deity to be aligned with that of their financiers without the shit that made it horrible.
Old Testament's in the First Person,New Testament's in the Second Person,and the Qur'an Koran's in the Third Person.
>>17964642valuable insight, no one until you in the last 2000 years has noticed this
>>17964642First you scare the Pagans and destroy thier tradition, then you pull them in with your unhuman love. Not that all the stuff in there is bad. Some stuff might have been pretty bad back then. Not without it's usefulness, but bad.
>>17964675Maybe he didn't get it until he experienced the world as a human. All abstract maps and state shit and hallucinations, then he became human and got it.
>>17964772>he didn't get it until he experiencedSo you are saying he wasn't omniscient enough to know that beforehand?>then he became human and got itAccording to the bible he doesn't change. Taking on another nature is the very definition of change
>>17964675>Why did he change when he put on a flesh suit?Have you read the parts where he threatens people with eternal hellfire and the Book of Revelation bro
>>17964964Revelation is not canon
Guy who doesn't believe in the bible and has not read it telling believers what is canon #17347298. Why are they all so desperate to have some kind of effect on us? Whether it's trying to convince us or shame us, it never works. Every time you talk you merely increase our contempt for infidels.
>>17964675God is the architect of fate. He has willed many things that we find horrible to happen. Providence is incomprehensible to us. Idk why so many modern Marcionists act like such massive quivering vaginas over stuff like this.
>>17964997Take your meds. Everyone knows Revelation is not canon, the Church added it to farm engagement and appeal to the occasional schizo
>>17964984>>17965007
>>17965005>He has willed many things that we find horrible to happenYou find the actions of Jesus horrible? He is the same deity that willed these things according to you
>>17965013This meme is really stupid, yes i can hold You down using your own belives You don't like it? Stop being an Xtards lol
>>17965013Meds, zoomer.
>>17965029I mean, I think babies getting their heads dashed on stones sucks, yeah. But it’s a part of Providence, which is ultimately good. You use phrases like “your god” as if God is some pokemon I can swap out if he doesn’t perfectly fit my personal proclivities as a 21st century mortal speck of dust on a speck of dust. I will die. My perspective is limited. Therefore my opinion isn’t really relevant. To think otherwise is the height of pride. Reality is what it is, and the almighty creator, being almighty, willed it to exist. He doesn’t want us to do evil, but he wants to allow for us to do what we want. When we fall into sin, as in the case of the people mentioned in your excerpt, the natural consequences occur. If a people becomes disordered and sinful in the bronze age and gets wiped out accordingly they shouldn’t go whining to God for not throwing down lightning bolts so they could keep worshipping idols and sacrificing babies in peace.Think of the vastness and age of reality, understand that God is infinitely beyond even that, and then seriously tell me with a straight face that anything that has ever happened in human history beyond Christ’s time on Earth is really a big deal.>>17965029It’s more about the other person being ignorant and knowing very little about Christianity, obviously having never read the Bible with any rigor, smugly attacking a strawman.
>>17964642Have fun burning.
Do you guys think even if the Bible isn’t true there will still be some sort of afterlife? I miss my dog it saddens me to think she might just be gone.
>>17965073>babies getting their heads dashed on stones is ultimately goodAt least you are honest, when Christians are shown these verses they bitch and moan about how it was a different time or whatever. But anyway why are you making this deity your standard of morality again?
>>17965090Dogs are animals and therefore are material beings. Your dog is gone, but presumably if heaven is a perfect realm 2 things are possible, either 1. You will be so perfectly developed/purified spiritually that you will accept that and it will no longer sadden you, or 2. You will just get to have your dog in heaven. Unfortunately only one person ever came from heaven to tell us about it and he never discussed whether I would get to have my pet rabbit come back or not, so no man can say for sure.
>>17965098A lot of people don’t just take it at face value and interpret from there. They want to dodge reality.It is somewhat true that there is a meaningful difference between the conduct expected of mankind before vs. after Christ though. But AFAIK the Church’s official stance is that we still live in a “fallen world” just as before Christ, but that people before Christ had no clear mission given from God to act a certain way and thereby cannot be entirely condemned for their conduct. There is a meaningful difference between following the law of the Old Testament vs Christian morality, it’s just that we shouldn’t go so far as to shrink away from what the Law was and act like it was some other divine creator.
>>17964642You were already denied and discredited 1700 years ago
>>17965090Loving pets is actually a perversion
>>17965098That is what happens to those who chose to do evil during their lives. God detests evil and he is extremely powerful. He is showing you what he does to evil people and if you are wise you will fear doing evil things. Yet those who are good and chose to do good in their lives he blesses and gives hot and happiness. Ge protects them from all enemies and gives them all good things. He even has an eternal paradise prepared for them so they live an eternity in peace.It's your choice, be good and enjoy paradise or be evil and be dashed against a rock.