>Poland wants Danzig>USSR wants KoenigsbergWhy didn't they just ally against Germany?
it wasn't in favor of the anglo overlords
>>17965607They would have but they didn't have Britain's support. France's support yes, but France without England is a meagre blessing
>>17965607Ah yes, Stalin. Someone the Poles would naturally trust and do a deal with. Yes, Uncle Joe, move a big ass army up near our border. We trust you
>>17965991They have the same national interests, so why not? Stalin ended up giving them Danzig anyway. They could have saved a lot of trouble by allying with him from the start
It's sad but Germany, Hungary, and Italy would probably BTFO them, even with France as their ally
>>17965994no we didn'twe built gdynia so we didn't need gdansk anymoreand eastoids wanted to invade the civilised world including poland
>>17966062You know, to everyone west of you, you are an Eastoid right?
>>17965994Turns out the USSR wanted a lot more, Poland included.
>>17966073Except the USSR didn't annex Poland and instead gave them everything they wanted, plus more
>>17966069poles are neither a people of the east nor even a part of steppe civilisation so whatever anyone thinks is completely irrelevant
>>17966069Your schizophrenia doesn't matter. Poland has always been part of the Western civilization, since its founding.
>>17966078Didn't give us Lvov or Wilno. Reminder that ""Vilnius"" was over 50% polish and only 5% lithuanian before the Soviets.
Stalin was a pussy and wanted no part of war with Germany. It only happened because mustache man forced it upon him
>>17966201>Stalin was a pussyFar from it.
>>17965607USSR wasn't interested in allying with Poland for the same reason Russia isn't interested in allying with Ukraine. Plus after 123 years of partitions and the bitter war of 1920 nobody in Poland was interested anyway, except for the communists, but the communist party of Poland back then was a fringe group>>17966078Sure, sure, for the small price of freedom and independence. What a deal
>>17966270NTA, but Stalin firmly believed in his alliance with Hitler, even after the Nazis attacked. Stalin snapped out of it, but not before suffering defeat after defeat in 1941
>>17965607Because an alliance with the USSR is equivalent to becoming its puppet, just like an alliance with the Nazis. Poland opposed itself to both the USSR and the Nazis, which ultimately proved fatal for it.
>>17965607UK or France gonna allied with Germany
>>17965607Stalin thought he could beat Poland AND Germany, so he wanted to secure Poland before any binding international agreementf from the west could be created to keep him out of Poland. He knew that beating Germany would create no such reaction, do that’s why he sacrificed an immedia Campaign on germany for fhe measly half of poland. It gave him (A) the removal of a polish state altogether, and (B) a direct border with GermanyHe didnt think Hitler would be dumb enough to invade him.
>>17965607Life is not a fucking HoI game. How would that alliance even work?
>>17965607They had gone to war about 20 years ago and the USSR was salty that it had lost a fuckload of land and wanted it back. Poland could have only come to an agreement with Hitler under Pilsudski who Hitler admired, but Poland would effectively be a satellite of Germany with no coastline. It was pretty much over the second Poland decided to make the mindbogglingly stupid decision to oppose Czechoslovakia over a literal square meter of land.
>>17965607SSSR did not want Koenigsberg. SSSR wanted Eastern bits of the Ukraine and Belarus.But to answer your question, Poles had a precedent why not to let Russia defeat Germany for them. Second, Poland was GG by 1939 because CSia was GG.
>>17966851>Poland could have only come to an agreement with Hitler under Pilsudski who Hitler admiredWhere did you find such bullshit? Pilsudski died in 35 and he wanted to fight Hitler.
>>17966875Yeah, Pilsudski hated Hitler but Hitler didn't hate Pilsudski. Not to mention Poland had allies in the Axis like Hungary, Romania and Japan. The massive fuck up that was 1920 made it so that Poland either needed to reapproach their southern neighbors FAST or pursue an alliance with either great power to avoid being genocided like in OTL.
>>17966062>Poland>civilised
>>17966948Pilsudski was neutral toward Hitler
>>17966270>Backs down against the Americans and Yugoslavs despite outnumbering the former 4 to 1 and the latter 20 to 1>not a pussy
Tensions between the USSR and Poland were high after the Polish-Soviet War.
