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Why has slavery become a central part of the historical identity for black people from English speaking american countries, but not for black people from Spanish speaking American countries?
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>>17966075
Because White Guilt has been hammered into Whites for decades.
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>>17966075
Because blacks were less segregated in LatAM and while there was a social stigma, there was no law forbidding marriage with Blacks or their participation in society

A lot of places like Dominican Republic, Cuba, Brazil and parts of Colombia and Venezuela are full of mulattos

Hell, here in Argentina we literally got rid of blacks by BLEACHING them to extinction as they were overwhelmed by a sea of dagos
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>>17966083
Paraguay even had mandatory racemixing for a while, though it was between Indians and Whites tbf
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>>17966083
>Because blacks were less segregated in LatAM and while there was a social stigma, there was no law forbidding marriage with Blacks or their participation in society

This couldn't have been the case in the English speaking caribbean considering blacks have/had a supermajority in those places. You can't lock 90% of a nation out of societal participation.
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>>17966090
That's the thing though, when there's a supermajority the minority gets overwhelmed and absorbed, but when they are equal numbers or even lesser numbers but numerous, what happens is you create this racial gradient, it's visible in basically all LatAM nations with a historical slave past, Dominicans most notably
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>>17966095
Also remember the anglos mostly brought their families to the new world, spaniards, portuguese and even french ( Métis case and point) took native and even black wives
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because iberians arent white and are largley defined by the men that fathered them

as children learn from example
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>>17966097
>Also remember the anglos mostly brought their families to the new world

This is a myth. Nobody was bringing their family on a pirate ship heading to Africa then the Caribbean. It was a dangerous and hedonistic journey and reality.

It was well known in Europe that the tropics increased the white mortality rate substantially. At most the ships would have had psuedo-prostitutes and orphan children used for some ship work.
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>>17966099

Remember when people like this were laughed at and told to return to /pol/? I member...
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>>17966111
Pepridge Farms remembers
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>>17966080
Thats why we white guys should breed as many black women as possible
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>>17966523
Needs a heavy stream of euro migrants tho, it's how Argentina did it, in the postbellum maybe, if they did this instead of muh one drop maybe they could've bleached blacks to extinction by now as well.
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Repartimiento was used often, and mulatto populations formed due to race mixing.
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>>17966075
Most of Spain ain't white. Moors planted their seed in the Iberian peninsula for 700 years
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>>17966075
Idk but I doubt that it's because of phenotypes. African Americans are okay with Ruzzians and Araps saying the Nigga word and walking in Black ghettos.
A big Black booty bitch student is always the most popular girl in Ruzzia, every ESL tries to speak with her.
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>>17966075
Latam countries just quietly abolished Slavery without making civil wars or big fuss about it (The elites already had Haciendas for cheap labour anyways)
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>>17967382
Never would have been a global power with that much mud blood. The US became a hegemon because of less race mixing while favelamaxxing has created irreversible decline. Bleaching can only work in a eugenic context with a chance for stable marriages and families. Otherwise it's just retarded racemixing (inherently dysgenic)
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>>17966523
I don't wanna
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>>17966523
I wanna
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>>17966523
but black women smell like coconut butter and soot
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There were, but the intensity, the work, and the cruelty were less.
The anglos dismantled the indigenous states, and Black people lived on haciendas controlled by the settlers.
The Iberian tribes, in their place, maintained indigenous states. Many indigenous peoples still use documents from the colonial era to maintain a certain level of autonomy. In my country, peasant communities have their own criminal procedures as long as they follow certain guidelines. Black people, on the other hand, did not all work on plantations. Most black slaves were sellers of their owners produce. Furthermore, many Spaniards married indigenous and black women because they came without families.
The Indians had rights guaranteed by the crown and their communities' autonomy. Black people, on the other hand, could still participate in society beyond being slaves. Many Indians and Black people were associated with the church, the best example being Saint Martin de Porres.
In my country, Black people aren't a problem (other than foreigners). They tend to be religious. My father is active in a Catholic church that's made up primarily of Black people, and they organize several processions and events throughout the year. Crime and gang culture are the domain of mestizos like me and my family.
The Spanish crown had its moments of brutality, but anglos objectively have the evil gene.
Sorry if my poor English is very obvious.



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