Why were the Chechens able to resist the Russians more effectively in the 90’s than in the 40’s. In the former, Russia’s full attention was on them while in the latter, the Russians were busy dealing with the Germans.
>>17966790>They combed the huts to make sure there was no one left behind... The soldier who came into the house did not want to bend down. He raked the hut with a burst from his submachine gun. Blood trickled out from under the bench where a child was hiding. The mother screamed and hurled herself at the soldier. He shot her too. There was not enough rolling stock. Those left behind were shot. The bodies were covered with earth and sand, carelessly. The shooting had also been careless, and people started wriggling out of the sand like worms. The NKVD men spent the whole night shooting them all over again.[45]1990s Russia just half assed it.
Best weapons and veterans from the 40s to teach them, jaded and corrupted Russian army and young levies with no will to fight? Idk
>>17966790Because most of russian elites at that time were liberal and pro-western. There was constant smear campaign against russian army and shilling for chechen terrorists in media
>>17966790Because Russians in the 40s didn't give a shit about war crimes or the Geneva convention.
>>17966790>>17966827>>17967077It was Georgians in the NKVD deporting the Chechens in the 1940s.The Georgian Lavrentiy Pavlovich Beria oversaw the whole deportation of Chechens and Ingush.Georgian NKVD officer Mikhail Maksimovich Gvishiani burned hundreds of Chechens alive in the Khaibakh massacre. Stalin was Georgian.
>>17966790There were Chechens in Jordan descended from Chechens who left in the 19th century.They only speak Chechen and Arabic and don't know Russian.https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/8138296/#q8138296http://edition.cnn.com/2000/WORLD/europe/09/06/chechnya.istanbul/https://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2001/12/20/commentary/world-commentary/war-back-home-divides-jordans-chechen-community/https://www.refworld.org/docid/3ae6a6bc8.htmlhttps://www.foxnews.com/story/chechen-rebels-hurting-for-moneyhttps://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/10576100801993347https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/10576100801993347?scroll=top&needAccess=true&journalCode=uter20http://www.angelfire.com/hi2/Royaltyandstuff2/Ali2.htmlhttps://jamestown.org/program/turkish-volunteers-in-chechnya-2/https://www.scribd.com/document/72984122/Istanbul-Gateway-to-a-Holy-Warhttps://www.ca-c.org/journal/2003/journal_eng/cac-01/03.ganeng.shtmlhttps://inozmi.spilnotv.com/books/sprak/Chechen/Chechens.A.Handbook.pdfhttps://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/mar/16/chechnya.saudiarabiahttps://ctc.usma.edu/app/uploads/2015/03/CTC_Khattab-Jihadi-Bio-February2015-3-1.pdfhttp://www.alifta.org/Fatawa/fatawaDetails.aspx?languagename=en&BookID=14&View=Page&PageNo=1&PageID=1061https://www.eng.kavkaz-uzel.eu/articles/48922/https://en.crimerussia.com/international/a-handful-of-mud-in-your-face-saudi-sheikh-s-grandson-hates-kadyrov-for-alliance-with-putin/https://uawire.org/chechen-leader-kadyrov-faces-problems-in-muslim-world
>>17967119https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/14408496/#q14408496https://twitter.com/chechenvisuals/status/1608807299052892164>Chechens and Circassians in the „Circassian cavalry“. The picture was taken in Al-Qunaitra.>The man in the french uniform is Philibert Collet, a commander from the French army, next to him is the Chechen Ahmad Zhovdat.https://twitter.com/MayMelhem/status/1608875357343715329>the cavalry was founded under the French mandate .. in 1948 Jawad Anzor came back from retirement and led this cavlary again .. he died in Golan heights .. may his soul RIP .. circassians and Chechens always brothers whether inside or outside Caucasus
>>17966790Asymmetrical warfare heavily favors the underdog
The Chechens focused more on urban warfare in the 90's.
>>17966790Russia lost the entire Central Asia, Baltic Ukraine and South Caucasus.Belarussians and Ukrainians accounted for a huge portion of officers and soldiers in the Soviet army and Georgians dominated the Stalin era NKVD.All those personnel were gone or outright became enemies (Georgians) in the 1990s.Russia even supported Chechens and Abkhaz against Georgia in the 1990s Abkhazia war before the first Chechen war.The demographics of the Russian army and intelligence looked vastly different from the 1940s, as did the natural resources.Ukraine also had tons of Soviet industry and Kazakhstan had vast wheat fields. Azerbaijan had the richest oil fields near Baku.Keep in mind Georgians were mountaineer people like Chechens, and they were leading the NKVD sweeps and deportation in Chechnya's mountains in the 1940s, not Russian officers.
>>17969348>Keep in mind Georgians were mountaineer people like Chechens, and they were leading the NKVD sweeps and deportation in Chechnya's mountains in the 1940s, not Russian officers.And the Georgians had fought Muslim Chechens and Dagestanis for centuries in the mountains.Georgians would hand the severed hands of Muslims from their towers.>>17967094>It was Georgians in the NKVD deporting the Chechens in the 1940s.>The Georgian Lavrentiy Pavlovich Beria oversaw the whole deportation of Chechens and Ingush.>Georgian NKVD officer Mikhail Maksimovich Gvishiani burned hundreds of Chechens alive in the Khaibakh massacre.>Stalin was Georgian.Meanwhile a Russian officer from the plains and lowlands has no idea what to look for or how to sweep the mountains, unlike Georgian NKVD.And the Soviets didn't deport Dagestani Muslims, they relied on their support and also gave some Chechen lands to Dagestanis.
>>17969354Hang the severed hands.Also, Chechens in the 1990s had an international border with Georgia, which became an enemy of Russia by then.Russia couldn't cordon and section them off for deportation or cut them off from money and fighters from the Chechen diaspora in Jordan flying to Georgia.Georgia kept the border open since Russia supported Abkhazia and South Ossetia.Meanwhile in the 1940s, Chechnya was an enclave totally surrounded by hostile Soviet territory with Soviet Georgia being enemy land with Georgians blocking them from any help or escape.There was no international border at all.
>>17966790In the 40s it was less of an "independence war" and more of an internal sweep of a problematic minority.It was open knowledge by everyone in the region that the officials in Georgia SSR were not communists, but in reality ethnonationalists using the USSR as a means to consolidate more territory that never belonged to them in the first place. Georgians oversaw the deportation of Chechens and Circassians for the purposes of taking their land. Georgians have a history of involvement in activities like this long before the USSR. They were the most loyal soldiers of the Russo-Prussian generals that were taking over Caucasus for the Russian crown.Most Chechens and Circassians know this. Which is why a few of them see Georgians as worse than Russians. I personally don't blame them.
And during the Circassian genocide, both the Georgians and Armenians had invited Russia in to the Caucasus decades earlier and supported Russia's southern flank against Circassia.Georgians allowed Russian troops to operate out of Tbilisi against Circassia and Chechnya to their north in the Caucasian war.Russia did not have this in the 1990s. It had almost zero local mountaineer support in fighting in Chechnya, only North Ossetians grabbed some land from Ingushetia and then didn't do shit for Russia in the Chechen war.Russia could not cordon off Chechnya like what happened in Circassia in the 19th century or Chechnya in the 1940s.Both of those took place with Georgians.
>>17969424And in the Second Chechen war, the Dagestani Muslims fought against the Wahhabi invasion led by Khattab which is why Dagestan remained in Russia. Dagestani Muslims supported remaining inside Russia but did not fight in Chechnya. They fought off Wahhabi-Chechen incursions into Dagestan and let Russia operate out of Dagestan but weren't going to sacrifice their lives outside of Dagestan.Dagestani Muslims provided food to Russian troops but let the Russians take the casualties invading Chechnya in the second war.Russia relied in loyalty of local Caucasians to let them operate safely in these wars.If the entire Caucasus fought it would take an even bloodier war.
>>17966790Wrong.Russians and Ukranians ans Belarussians were dealing with Germans while Georgians were dealing with Chechens.
>>17966790How did that helicopter crash perfectly upright on its wheels?
>>17972121More importantly why didn't the helicopter explode into a flaming wreck and why is there no damage from gunfire or a missile?
>>17966790The answer is WEAPONS. One of the first thing the commies did was confiscate all firearms from civilians so there could be no armed resistance. The Chechens were defenseless in the 1940.1990s lol different story. There were Red Army stockpiles everywhere, Chechens had a ton of mafia money and could arm themselves to the teeth.
>>17972927Cause life isn't a Hollywood movie where every impact results in a giant fireball you dummy.
>>17973031>The Chechens were defenseless in the 1940.There were literally Chechens serving in the Red army in 1940 just like Dudayev and Maskhadov were in the Soviet military.
>>17966790In the 1940s the USSR was a superpower.In the 1990s the USSR barely functioned.Next you'll ask how the United States managed a complex campaign in both France, the Mediterranean, and the Pacific while winning each in the 1940s but lost against Afghanistan in the 2000s. Same reason.
>>17973552Yeah so what? They fought the Germans, won medals and got put on cattle trains when they returned from the front. Chechnya didn't have its own de facto state in 1940s, they were just Soviet citizens without anything to defend themselves.
>>17973573>1940s the USSR was a superpower.No it wasn't. >1990s the USSR barely functioned.The 1990s conscript had hundreds of times more firepower than the conscripts in 1940s. >United StatesLost 2400 men against the Taliban. That was barely a war. You can't "win" against an enemy that just hides in caves and waits you out. That conflict had nothing to do with the extremely bloody wars in Chechnya.
