That's because your idea of great man is always a military leader. They are well versed in the application of force. You want to force another man to do your bidding? Absolutely fucking gay. Also, of course, the swords and the clubs and the muskets and the rifles and the missiles and the bullets are all shaped like dicks. The straightest thing you can do as a man is leave another man alone.

>>17968902
hot.

>>17968879
yujiro hanma problem

>>17968907
Yes, I see right through you, as I've said.

Masculine passion. Women just cant compete.

>>17968879
Great man of history here. This anon is right in the general framework, but wrong that it's about militarism or masculinity >>17968902. Any real passion about life or the world is by proxy a passion for humanity, which is by proxy a BIG GAY LOVE for men that surpasses what is acceptable to normies. I love all beings, which includes quite a few men. I love them more deeply than any normie would be comfortable with. It's worth more than my dignity to participate in the great love.

>>17969044
Don't forget I used OP's definition of a great man. I believe great men are inventors and entrepreneurs, people who through technology and finance raise the standard of living for everyone. That they themselves grow rich from this consensual exchange does not concern me.

>>17969052
That's pretty standard. A lot of people we revere historically died poor and disappointed.

>>17968879
Statistics and cherrypicking. What percentage of men are gay? What percentage of great men are gay?
>Alexander the Great was gay
Genghis Khan wasn't Cyrus the great wasn't, Tamerlane wasn't, Napoleon wasn't, Clovis wasn't, Hannibal wasn't.

>>17969078
>What percentage of men are gay?
0-1%
>What percentage of great men are gay?
0%
we were talking about zestimate. it ain't gay to say a man looks good

>>17968879
If those great men don't fuck the asses of those boys what should they fuck?

>>17968879
Many of the examples provided are not gay men. Dumbasses just think that male friendship is automatically love because they have never had a good relationship with a man that wasn't sexual.

poverty makes u gay

>>17969884
Stupid post. Every example can be justified with explicitly erotic evidence

>>17970176
He's right. Having a homosexual experience doesn't make you gay. The definition of a gay guy is someone who's biologically normal and complete but chooses to be with men instead. Someone who simply has the "gay gene" or was the third son or some ought, is not gay.

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>>17969884
All my life I’ve been called a faggot by straight people for expressing any kind of tenderness for another male but the moment someone important fucks another guy in the ass suddenly it’s just normal male friendship. This is why we need a brutal homofascist regime. We’ve seen the world that the pussywhipped heterosexual “male” has created. Now it’s time for the faggot phoenix to rise from the ashes of this depraved gynocentric liberal wasteland…

>>17970196
Holy based post

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>>17968879
Homosexuality = High IQ

>>17970196
lol I wish this guy was shilled instead of nigger fuentes, he can write

>>17968879
Great men are typically eccentric, willing to cut the bullshit of life and do as they will. Naturally they revel in the imposition of their will on less creatures, theres no further testament of this than the conquest of some fag.

Great men fucked, NEVER were fucked, mind you

>>17970435
>NEVER were fucked
TE Lawrence…

>>17970359
normalbros, care to explain these numbers?

the sweltering summer of '92 . . . you had to be there

>>17970435
>Great men fucked, NEVER were fucked
don't tell the queen of bithynia that

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>>17970359
>I'm actually below average in homosexuality

>>17969062
It is pretty standard, the more technology we have the more value can be produced by humans, which makes them great. I value creators, destroyers are faggots.

>>17968879
Great men aren't zesty, you are. Psychological projection is a real thing and great men don't exist.

>>17970189
>having sex with men doesn't make you gay

Lmao, thanks for the laugh man, I haven't read anything this retarded all day. You are the definition of "I have relationships
with women and sex with men. I ain't gay bro".

>>17971184
A gay person is someone who's stuck on men forever. Someone who did something gay once is not gay. I'd go further and say you can do it as many times as you want, still not gay, because a gay person is someone who's committed to never being with women. The word is pretty useless if Kyle can change his mind and impregnate your wife, which is my real point. The "gay person" is a dehumanizing feminist concept which tries to eliminate men from the gene pool based on a completely imaginary stigma of masculinity.

Fags will literally try and convince straight men they are gay for liking masculine things instead of keeping their stupid faggot mouths shut

>>17971545
Straight people don't exist. A "straight person" is a dehumanizing feminist concept which tries to eliminate men from the gene pool based on a completely imaginary stigma of masculinity.

>>17971553
Homosexuality is a mental illness like eating your own shit is a mental illness

>>17971558
Both homosexuality and scat eating are so tame among human activities that retards and women do them for fun. You should be setting your sights a little higher. You're bigger than this.

>>17971561
Just like a fag to claim being a shit eating retard is actually better than it sounds

>>17971563
Everything is. Getting tortured is better than your happiest moment. You're a miniature mortal, your senses and your first impressions are really of no consequence. This world is greater than us, you won't get anywhere jerking off to your "self" whatever that is. Learn new things.

>>17971567
Okay but you're still mentally ill

>>17971570
mental illness doesn't exist
well, I'm not sure about this one, but it is a dehumanizing concept
and where would you draw the line between mental and physical? I think the "mentally" ill have something physically wrong with them. The mind is physical.

never mind, you're not listening. Go ahead, give me your next "gotcha" remark so you can fuck off.

>>17971541
So according to your logic I can get married to a woman, have 2 or 3 kids with her, having sex with her only for procreation, and then spend the rest of my time having sex with men and magically I'm not gay. Just because I had sex with a woman twice. That's retarded logic.

>>17971720
You're not gay because you're fully capable of being a husband, father, lover to women, &c &c all straight behaviors. It's a misstatement of fact to say you "are a gay person". The only reason to lie is to have power over the situation, women want a man who would 'never' do anything gay so it never threatens their dominance. That's a perfectly valid concern, or would be if people knew how to talk about it, but it has nothing to do with what a man can and can't do. A gay person is someone who's really pathological about women and has undergone significant repeated gay behaviors to the point that they wouldn't physically be able to do it, and nothing could ever convince them mentally. It's a small fraction of people.

If you include people that always liked the same sex and naturally flowed to homosexuality without experimenting, the numbers go way up. That's also where you get "straight people" in the traditional sense, they just don't know anything else. Those are the people who come to the orgy with their opposite sex partner and leave gayer than they arrived. During the millennium of post-roman gay oppression, it was declared a mental illness to be gay, and gays were made to confess that they hated themselves and wished to be straight, which was probably true at the time. What got lost in the whole repression was the idea of homosexuality as a temptation for ordinary men. How can it be a sin and a mental illness at the same time? The subject was too taboo to be worked out properly. In fact, it's ok to be gay and ok to be straight. That's why people do it. Not because they face some compulsion, the only compulsion is the difficulty of changing who you are and what you already like.

>>17970533
it was the medication

>>17971576
>mental illness doesn't exist
sure it does, all gays were mentally ill until 1970 when they somehow many it a civil rights violation to be considered mentally ill for being a homosexual

so rather than refuting gays are mentally ill, they're mentally ill but they're too sensitive to be called what they are

>>17972221
if gayism is just a psychological configuration and some dumb ideas about the world, liberals are right. Gays are just like the rest of us.

Anyone can identify as gay, that's the number one purpose of the word: giving the authority of self possession to weak people who would otherwise be dominated by others and unhappy. If you're a little softgay and I'm your dad, the temptation to control and change you would be very strong. The idea of a "gay person" allows both father and son to reconcile that everything had to be this way. The issue is deeper than sex, it's about fundamentals of purpose, individuality, and place in society. Being different is rebellion and queer theory creates a platform for infinite difference. Yes, liberals were right to promote homosexuality and transgenderism in a world that demanded total orthodoxy. They're right about everything except the science.

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Heterosexuality = leftism

Heterosexuality is a material realm thing,for the purpose of procreating more physical vessels.
Spiritually? Homosexuality is the way to go. Men and women represent inherently different things.

>>17972262
Mentally ill people are not just like the rest of us and are in fact highly dangerous

Also nobody really cares about or wants to hear about fucking poop or the many diseases that result from such.

>>17972410
If mental illness exists, it can be cured. Problem?

>>17972405
No way. All people have mysteries beyond understanding. If you want to excel spiritually and need to commune with men who speak the same language, that's different. It doesn't mean other people are spiritually uninteresting.

Because larger than life characters always end up doing something extreme with their lives.

>>17972445
If you're born gay and it's a mental illness then it's an incurable birth defect

>>17972532
Not curable then, but easy to medicate. The symptoms are mild enough. Yet medication is brought up in the same breath as Hitler, why? Because there's enough substance for people to promote it as an alternative lifestyle and it's an improvement for lots of losers. Being gay is good the way AI is smart, if your life wasn't good beforehand there's no way to know anything better. There's no question people get sexual gratification out of it, spiritual fulfilment like anon, and other things. Documented since antiquity. "Sufferers" don't want to be cured.

>>17972532
are we still talking about the guy who married and had kids before becoming gay?

>>17972588
You can't medicate being a sexual degenerate

>>17972599
because it's good from a certain point of view. you can't medicate the truth

>>17972602
There's no such thing as good in evolutionary mutations, there's better and worse. A mentally ill person isn't a positive mutation

>>17968879
Despite being roughly 40% of the globe's population, hetero males represent over 90% of:

Rapists
Thieves
Child Abusers
Murderers
Homophobes
Assaulters
Racists
Reactionaries
And every single other scum you can imagine really

Hetero males are the OVERWHELMINGLY majority of right-wingers globally, it is no exageration to claim over 90% of every right-wing/reactionary party in the globe is a hetero male sausage fest

As if the statistics and the fact they're a fascist demographic aren't bad enough, straight male """culture""" and """mannerism"" are vile to stratospherical levels, consider the fact hetmoids are devoid of ANY POSITIVE sentiment and emotion, and completely uncapable of showing empathy, tenderness, kindness and general human decency because apparently doing so is ""gay"" (and "gay" for hetmoids is the ultimate offense, worse than being perceived as a pedophile or child murderer). Hetero males can't have a basic personal hygiene routine because it's "gay", they can't wipe and wash their assholes because it's "gay", they can't wear nor have pink stuff because it's "gay", and the only things true hetmoids can have as hobbies and interests are football, women, ufc fights, cars, beer and pewpew shooting online games, anything that deviates from these is inherent "homosexual" according to their sick minds. They also can't also while sitting down either because the only true macho thing is having your women cleaning up the disgusting mess you do at the toilet

If they only kept these brainworms to themselves I wouldn't give a shit but they'll literally verbally and physically harass and hate and assault ANY man that deviates from their accepted and disgusting cultural norms as early as SCHOOL DAYS, meaning even as a child an hetmoid is inherently violent, sadistic and subhuman

>>17972632
Hetero males also only see women as slaves and cum dumpsters, trophies to brag about to their "bros", in fact, hetero male ""friendship"" consists of attacking, humiliating and belitting each other all the game (90% of the time calling each other "gay"), and the rare occasions they compliment each other they can ONLY do so to the stuff they have or did (how many women they fucked, the expensive material stuff they have, etc), never THEM directly, on the extremely rare occasion they compliment each others' appearance they can only so indirectly, because it's "gay" to do otherwise, ex: 'bro has rizz', 'bro has swag'. I genuinely believe an average hetero male life is devoid of any positive interactions with ANY human being, including their """friends""".

In short, hetero males are a political abomination because they're fascist, an ethical abomination because they're violent, hateful, bigoted and sadistic, and a cognitive abomination because they're ignorant. The End

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Despite being roughly 40% of the globe's population, hetero males represent over 90% of:

Rapists
Thieves
Child Abusers
Murderers
Homophobes
Assaulters
Racists
Reactionaries
And every single other scum you can imagine really

Hetero males are the OVERWHELMINGLY majority of right-wingers globally, it is no exageration to claim over 90% of every right-wing/reactionary party in the globe is a hetero male sausage fest

As if the statistics and the fact they're a fascist demographic aren't bad enough, straight male """culture""" and """mannerism"" are vile to stratospherical levels, consider the fact hetmoids are devoid of ANY POSITIVE sentiment and emotion, and completely uncapable of showing empathy, tenderness, kindness and general human decency because apparently doing so is ""gay"" (and "gay" for hetmoids is the ultimate offense, worse than being perceived as a pedophile or child murderer). Hetero males can't have a basic personal hygiene routine because it's "gay", they can't wipe and wash their assholes because it's "gay", they can't wear nor have pink stuff because it's "gay", and the only things true hetmoids can have as hobbies and interests are football, women, ufc fights, cars, beer and pewpew shooting online games, anything that deviates from these is inherent "homosexual" according to their sick minds. They also can't piss also while sitting down either because the only true macho thing is having your women cleaning up the disgusting mess you do at the toilet

If they only kept these brainworms to themselves I wouldn't give a shit but they'll literally verbally and physically harass and hate and assault ANY man that deviates from their accepted and disgusting cultural norms as early as SCHOOL DAYS, meaning even as a child an hetmoid is inherently violent, sadistic and subhuman

>>17972630
we're way past that now. every human being is worth more than every nonhuman because a human lifetime is a near eternity of intellectual and productive contributions. society's failure to use even a fraction of those energies is not a statement on evolutionary viability, but a sign that more rapid change is coming.

>>17972648
I doubt flooding the first world with 80 IQ debt slaves is going to help bring about this utopia outside of some sort of dystopia

>>17972654
I didn't say all humans are worth more than your community and life. However the lure of cell phones and other globalist trinkets tend to make people vote the uniparty instead of the white power party.

>>17972659
I don't think life has inherent worth on the cosmic scale. When it comes down to it all that matters is resources and family.

>>17972670
All that "matters" is human because that's how mattering is defined. There's always some deeper divine beyond words. If you want greatness or goodness or true wonder, it takes humans to build those things, and in fact there's never enough. Overpopulation is a half-truth. The response to population growth has been to impose a whole new set of conditions, new requirements for greatness, and there are never enough people doing great things in the new way.

/lgbt/ has invaded /his/, time to shill Leather Apron Club

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QVh3kj7CjA

>>17972691
the great things man was made for was outsmarting other men and killing them

>>17972709
we could just wait until they're dead of natural causes but that's not efficient

>>17972693
His YouTube channel name sounds like a gay sauna

>>17970359
@grok is this accurate?