What's the best pre-columbian Americas architectural style?
>>17971648That would be The Alamo
Pretty unoriginal choice but Tenochtitlan really was spectacular and beautiful
>>17971871Looks like something you would see on the Las Vegas Strip
>>17972152are you an ai or something
>>17972166Ever been to Las Vegas? Something is always being torn down and some multi billion dollar casino is in its place in less than a year
>>17971648Although it has its merit we have to agree that building pyramids is the easiest design in architecture: stone over stone and the base is wider. Nothing to do with the complexity of European cathedrals and monuments.
>>17972423What does that have to do with Tenochtitlan's architecture? Dead internet theory is seeming more and more possible every day this shit is ridiculous>>17972426Thats crazy nigga but this thread isn't about europe its about the pre columbian americas.
Its important to remember that mesoamerican buildings were almost always painted/stucco'd so they were far more colourful in the past. They were very colourful societies in general.
Whatever style you would consider Cahokia to be.
>>17972543Cahokia style is fairly basic and dull
>>17972543If you like waddle & daub + mounds you might find the Olmec interesting
>>17971648>What's the best pre-columbian Americas architectural style?I know you're looking for stone structures or masonry, but I've always been really fond of the uniquely rounded, kind of milk-carton-esque, bark & hide longhouses made by the natives on the east coast.
>>17973189comfy
>>17972152in what way
Teotihuacan style is pretty rad
>>17974928But that's not the Teotihuacan it's the late classic-early postclassic Maya Puuc style from the hills of the same name in the western yucatan peninsula
>>17971648Inca were the best, but Puebloans were kinoest
>>17974928>>17974984That being said, it was a pretty cool one indeed
>>17971648Sovl>>17972451SOULLESS
>>17975446>literal dead gray husk>soul
>>17975454Looks good
Inca architecture was kinda boring-looking compared to the big tall pyramids of Mesoamerica, but seeing a whole city of almost uniform big stone houses must have been an interesting sight in its own unique way.
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>>17975464The giant stones are pretty cool. I get the impression that actually walking around in Andean cities probably would have been really nice and their architectural style probably just doesn't translate to pictures well. I prefer Mesoamerica too though. They also had tons of shiny trinkets everywhere decorating things but there was a literal crusade against them that resulted in most being melted down and shipped away.
The chronicles say that the Coricancha was entirely plated with a gold-like mineral. It's a shame we'll never be able to see it as it was before the Spanish replaced the structure with a church.Nor will the golden Sun that was inside. I read that a viceroy lost it while gambling and now its whereabouts are unknown, but it doesn't sound entirely true.
>>17972426Very insecure post
>>17975985>a viceroy lost it while gambling and now its whereabouts are unknown
>>17972451Every society was colourful until 21st century globohomo, see: millenial beige, millenial grey
>>17975985Fun fact: when the spanish arrived in Cusco they tried to do their usual practice of deconstructing all of the old buildings and replacing them with new spanish ones. This didnt work because the old Inca buildings were too well built to disassemble, so instead they just build new spanish buildings over them. Then after a few years there was a massive earthquake, and all of the inca architecture was designed with earthquakes in mind but the spanish stuff wasn't, so it all just crumbled and became an inca style city again
>>17971648God that must've been so comfy when it was originally built. The entire region just full of footpaths and local open air markets selling fruit and small game. Probably low crime because you'd get the shit beat out of you and enslaved if you acted up. Mucho sexo with whores because prostitution was legal. Simple life where all government matters are settled by speaking directly to your elders instead of vooooting away the corruption with more vooootes from the voooters.>uh ackshoaly the sacrificed 6 gorilion people a day o algo chudwho gives a fuck. modern westerners sacrifice children to jewish pedophile elites
>>17975464Yeah, from seeing the buildings I feel the mesoamericans were doing religionmaxxing while the incans where more practical, the incans where placing the ground to have a cultural renaissance in some decades after
>>17977928Most of the parts of mesoamerica that the spaniards checked out had pretty low crime and often public government funded police forces. Also if you were a noble you could take multiple wives AND sex slaves. Sacrifices weren't crazy numerous outside of the Aztec empire and almost exclusively made up of criminals, war captives, or willing participants.
>>17977928I don't think you understand the sheer level of comfiness we're talking about here. Tenochtitlan was almost certainly the nicest city to live in on the planet at the time. Almost every house had running water but they were still wealthy enough that people would often go and buy BOTTLED SPRING WATER. There were government funded police so crime was extremely low, one of the largest and most diverse markets on the planet, public schools, government funded public sports with travelling teams like a pre modern nfl, advanced sewers and government funded street cleaners (plus just a general cultural tendency towards cleanliness) so it was all extremely clean, spectacularly good irrigation techniques so everyone had tons of food variety available and didn't go hungry, regular giant festivals where the government would give you free liquor, extremely well planned and governed neighborhoods so you can submit complaints and actually be listened to, parks and gardens everywhere, a ZOO AND AQUARIUM with animals from all over the known world, and many more wonderful amenities.Most of the the time when I tell people this they don't believe me and I don't blame them, but it's all true, you can look it up. Despite the Aztec's reputation for bloodthirstiness and brutality, in terms of treatment of their own people they were probably one of the most humanitarian states in history.
>>17971648Norte Chico and all the super old Peruvian coastal pyramid stuff is wild. Way older than any thing Amazonian or Mexican.
>ReconstructionsYes.. i see
>>17972426ThisAnd majority are just bad reconstructions to attract the attention of tourists and archaeologists
>>17980277>>17980279Don't engage with this schizo please, just ignore him.
>>17980277>>17980279>saaaar it's fake saaaar/pol/tranny cope
>>17980447don't engage, he's repeatedly proven himself too retarded and stubborn to learn anything, he's not looking for actual discussion. He's just an underage esl white supremacist trying to derail all discussion of the american civilizations because they make him feel insecure.
>>17975411>Living in the middle of the jungle.>Supposedly a city but there's barely enough crop for a single family.It's really pretty but these people have absolutely no idea just how much land it takes to feed an urban settlement. And this is compounded by the fact that while normal civs already demolish massive stretches of land, jungle civilisations have to sprawl even MORE because jungle terrain is really shit for agriculture.IIRC Maya had to use like 7? separate fields in rotation (6 fields lay fallow each year) just to keep the soil productive.There's no space for any large foliage under brutal conditions like that, you turn the place into those endless fields like the Great Plains in the US.If you look at the drawings of Mayan cities on murals, they confirm that reality. No trees anywhere near any buildings. And not because they don't draw the trees as do have the jungle drawn at the very edge, with monkeys and all that shit.
>>17980447>>17980279I read Leopoldo Batres's books on the reconstruction of the Pyramid of the Sun. He seems to have many made a mistake between the 3rd and 4th levels, creating an extra level. Furthermore, he removed the last layer of the original pyramid, so what we see today is the penultimate layer
>>17980277It's true that mistakes were made in these reconstructions, I agree, but it's not like everything is fanfic
>>17981228only the facade is false, not the entire volume
>>17981224White supremacist, you don't like american civilizations cause its make you feel insecure
>>17981241You're the only one who started talking about race, why? Did anyone mention race? SameflagA 40-meter-high pile of stones isn't impressive at all. The Romans built aqueduct arches that high. Gothic cathedrals reached 160 meters high.My posts here>>17981224And this>>17981233
>>17981247You're insecure, the main European cities of the time were smaller and you realize that you used thatched roofs until the 17th century, right? Get out the thread
>>17981254>You're insecureYou've already said this three times to different people, no one is insecure, at least insult in a more creative way.>the main European cities of the time were smallerYou've said this three times to different people. No one is insecure. At least insult them in a more creative way. If comparing the ancient world is unfair for "chronological" reasons, some of the Cathedrals were twice as tall as the base of the pyramid to the top.These revisionist drawings are beautiful, yes, but they're purposefully trying to elevate something. I know who you are; you're that idiot who posts rivers and rivers of green texts and blogs about Mesoamerican history, right? My friend, beauty isn't subjective. I'm sorry, the goal is to maximize living space and aesthetics with the minimum amount of material
>>17981282>>17981247the mesoamerican writing system was indigenous, its derivative is Semitic, for example poltroon seeth
>>17981291Now you've jumped from architecture to writing systems, same flag? Try to stick to one topic at a time.>Writing systemIt depends on who we're talking about. The Mayans are still debatable, but the Aztecs themselves didn't have a real writing system, just mnemoic codices. The vast majority of natives didn't have writing when Europe was already literate, and if everything can be considered writing without much critical rigor, I can name the proto-writing of Trypillia.
>>17981228>>17981233>>17981241>>17981247>>17981254>>17981282>>17981291>>17981310Holy shit stop feeding the troll.
>>17972433the dead internet is real
>>17981462what are you talking about, retard?
>>17980852Yeah, I considered talking about it in that post. Sayil apparently had like 10.000 inhabitants at its peak, it absolutely wouldn't have looked like a hamlet surrounding a big building in the middle of untamed jungle. But then I realized this thread is supposed to be about architecture and i figured that's what the artist was focused on as well, so whatever>>17981282>revisionistWhat exactly do you mean by that? Which parts do you think are "revisionist"? Judging by your posts, you clearly don't doubt that there were stone buildings in the region and that some of them were pretty big, so what what bothers you exactly? The pretty plaster and paint? Those were absolutely real. They're depicted in art from the period all the time and some of it even managed to survive to this day. The sprawl of lesser buldings around them? That too is a given, obviously their exact layout may not be 100% accurate, but a city will naturally have houses everywhere
>>17981310>the mayans are still debatableWe literally have multiple fully translated Maya books, as well as tons of inscriptions on stela, temples, artifacts, etc etc etc. We have mountains of Maya writing, it's not "debatable"
>>17982519Not a writing system
>>17983321It's literally the only phonetic writing system in the Region.You couldn't have picked a worse target.
>>17983321dis nigga still stuck in the first half of the 20th centurywhat's next are you gonna say that maya cities were actually big ceremonial centers rather than actual urban cities and maya society was composed entirely of peaceful time-worshipping hippies
>>17983321because?
