How would history change if a Polish Empire took over Europe in the twentieth century?
Would have never happened. In the 15th century they still had a chance.
>>17977652That means Trotsky won, defeated the Poles utterly in 1920, and decided international revolution means a bunch of lesser warsaw pacts; regional superstates backed by the Russian colossus. Poland could thus attain a higher standing and either prevent the rise of Hitler if they attack Germany in the 20s, or attack and defeat Hitler before his war preparations were complete. >>17977761why so narrow minded
>>17978001@grok would this work?
>>17978001Trotsky like most commies of the time were massive Germanophiles and would have awarded the Germans with a large state had they crushed the Poles, they were active arming and bankrolling the Weimar government and then the Nazi's despite the latter promising to genocide all Slavs
>>17978050you forgot the part where they roll tanks into Weimar to assure its socialist comraderie
>>17978050they had a shortsighted focus on Poland. Remove that and what do you have
>>17978001>>17978050had judeocommunist won the polish-bolshevik war they'd rob poland blind just like they robbed all of central europe in 40seven if soviets failed soon afterwards poland would never be able to rebuild economy and society from gounds up in time to defend itself from germans in 39
despite what you desperately tried to prove all last week there is not a single scenario in which poles get anything from siding with eastoids
>>17978496>>17978498>probablyno one cares fucktard
>>17978524certainly not probablyyou cared enough to post
>>17978628I care about my own post you're misrepresenting. What you posted has nothing to do with OP's shitpost 1pbtid question thread.
>>17978631>op asks for a hypothetical scenario>you make your shot for a backstory>i point out how fucking retarded it is
>>17978638"One guy could never take over Germany and impose absolute tyranny over continental Europe without pedigree or communist ideology" that's how you sound.
>>17978638>OP asks for an IMPOSSIBLE hypothetical scenario>I get within spitting distance of making it work>you come up with the most pedestrian complaint for why my impossible mighty stroke of history could maybe not worklittle imp
This might stop Constantinople from getting BTFO. I doubt Dandolo can take the city without Germnigger help. The Sultanate of Rum of Rum and eventually the Mongols are still coming though so I doubt the empire will survive another century. Speaking of the Mongols. What will they do about mega Polan?
>>17978643is this sliding or gaslighting? regardless top hutzpah buddy
>>17978001wrong, the opposite would be truebolshewiks lost. russia still boil in white infighting and nationalistic uprisings and Poles turn red from necessity(no more support from the west)
>>17978001russian mongoloids and trotsky's tribe hate polish people and their love of christ
>>17978924Poland wins by inventing Bolshevism themselves? High score for creativity
>>17978933They wouldn't empower Poland on purpose. Poland would simply be part of the USSR during its most productive period instead of being fattened and slaughtered between USSR and 3rd Reich. Their regional SSR could become powerful in the course of suppressing German nationalism.
>>17978954an interwar poland overrun by soviets would bring nothing but misery for polish people because >>17978933, unironically
>>17979061If the soviets under Trotsky conquered Poland in 1920 they would've been at the gates of Berlin with no Hitler and no wehrmacht to stop them. The USSR was a tabula rasa superpower of the highest order at that particular moment, they did ridiculous feats of industrialization. I realize Poles hate communism but if Trotsky won and caused communist victory in Germany, the entire history of the 20th century would be different. We could be living in the Finnish pax hyperborea today
>>17979084ussr was a horde of jews riding other steppe savages astride. just like their mongol forefathers they brought nothing but death and destruction.
>>17977652Looks like Hungary (the shape)
>>17979112If that were true Hitler would have, should have, could have won.
>>17979222he would have, should have and could have won if it wasn't for the whole world bankrolling soviets and his own borderline retarded policy of pursuing soviet beyond the reach of his supply lines
It would literally be exactly like Russia.Poles won't admit this but a "big polish empire" that would win the war for slavic dominance in the 1500s-1600s would turn out the same as Russia did.
>>17979268You might have something with his retardation. There's no question the soviets were great contributors in industry and manpower. It really is Poland's fault Hitler was allowed to rise at all, should've just accepted communism.
>>17979284it wouldn't because poles are nothing like russians>>17979324it was soviets who helped hitler circumvent locarno treaties and build up his army
>>17979340Poles are Catholic Russians
>>17979340Your tradition of a decentralised and divided (i wouldn't exactly call it democratic, since it was more of an oligarchy) would not lend well to withstanding major threats from the West or East.If you rose to prominence in the 17th century then the rest of the world would have all their sights on you. And with the way the szlachta could just oppose the king, it doesn't exactly make it very easy to mobilize the resources of Poland to fight major threats.
>>17979340>poles are nothing like russiansLiterally no one who isn't Polish or Russian can tell the difference
>>17979347different civilisation, different culture, different race
>>17977652oh kurwa, hell naw
>>17979364There are those who may remain unconvinced
Ruhr would be under the administration of the Poles, and Polish nationalism would be even more crazy than it is now.
>>17978938it would be called red sarmatism, it is not that far fetched as you think considering that pilsudski had socialist background
Look up "johnny pez drowned baby timeline" from the golden age of Usenet's soc.history.what-if.
>>17980062the word bolshevik comes from russian for majority, it's what minority in the government called itself in a bid to launch a counterrevolution and take over russian republic 1917-1917ideologically is just a regular run-of-the-mill world revolution internationalist jewish communismpoles would never create a 'polish bolshevism' because they neither speak russian nor are jews
>>17980479meant for >>17980293
>>17977761i don't think that's true
