I understand that you don't like christianity as a religion or institution, but how can you hate Jesus? He was one of the most good, kind, compassionate, wise, and admirable people in history.
>Worship me personally or be tortured forever>Consume my blood to gain special powers>Give me luxury goods instead of giving to the poor>Foreign races are dogs to me>Slaughter your family with a sword if they oppose me>Not even pregnant women will escape my wrath
>>17978678He never said that, you literally just made it up.
>>17978685The first and most important one is literally true>no one comes to father but through me>Hell Is eternal absence of God
>>17978770He actually said 1st commandment is the most important, and loving thy neighbor is the second most important. You are just making things up to fit a narrative for your point, which is hypocritical
>>17978774Most important in context of OP's post you impotent dumbass. >you are just making things upJohn 14:6Repeating "you made that up" is a bad eristic strategy, it's really easy to see through
>>17978789>Context of the reply to OP's postFixed
>>17978663>He was one of the most good, kind, compassionate, wise, and admirable people in history.Yet his followers aren’t, they are actually the exact opposite of that.
>>17978789It does not matter wether I repeat it or not, you are making things up and thus being intellectually and spiritually dishonest
>>17978678>tell followers to turn the other cheek when slapped>get angry himself when he get slapped by the high priest
>>17978663People are retarded nihilistic contrarians and the internet made this even worse
This is a Wendigo.He is known by what he does.People don't want one at home.Same goes for Jesus.He is known by what he and his people do.Irrespective of claims.
>>17978678It's crazy how evil Jesus is the moment you look deeper than the surface.
>>17979143It is unfortunate that people like (you) cannot read into metaphor. It is almost as if you lack all comprehension. And you wonder why rules were made for you
He is painted as such..but cult leaders are fucked in brains.
>>17979148>muh metaphorProbably the most common christcope. Strange that they never seem to treat passages they like as metaphors.
>>17978685>>Give me luxury goods instead of giving to the poorMatthew 26:6 Now while Jesus was at Bethany in the house of Simon the leper,[a] 7 a woman came to him with an alabaster jar of very costly ointment, and she poured it on his head as he sat at the table. 8 But when the disciples saw it, they were angry and said, “Why this waste? 9 For this ointment could have been sold for a large sum and the money given to the poor.” 10 But Jesus, aware of this, said to them, “Why do you trouble the woman? She has performed a good service for me. 11 For you always have the poor with you, but you will not always have me. >>Foreign races are dogs to meMatthew 25:>21 Jesus left that place and went away to the district of Tyre and Sidon. 22 Just then a Canaanite woman from that region came out and started shouting, “Have mercy on me, Lord, Son of David; my daughter is tormented by a demon.” 23 But he did not answer her at all. And his disciples came and urged him, saying, “Send her away, for she keeps shouting after us.” 24 He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” 25 But she came and knelt before him, saying, “Lord, help me.” 26 He answered, “It is not fair to take the children’s food and throw it to the dogs.” 27 She said, “Yes, Lord, yet even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their masters’[a] table.” 28 Then Jesus answered her, “Woman, great is your faith! Let it be done for you as you wish.” And her daughter was healed from that moment.>>Slaughter your family with a sword if they oppose meMatthew 10:>34 “Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace but a sword.35 For I have come to set a man against his father,and a daughter against her mother,and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law,36 and one’s foes will be members of one’s own household.
I heard this is the thread were all the fags were meeting up??? Am I in the right place???fucking losers...
>>17978770>At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you. >Be still, and know that I am GodJesus Christ was telling everyone their true nature.
>>17979143He never existed. The only evil is jewish gaslighting
>>17978678You’re framing him as an evil monster when he isn’t. With someone who is evil heal the blind, banished demons, out of people, make the paralyzed to be able to walk? No, someone who is evil would amplify the sufferings. He didn’t mean, consume his blood, literally like a vampire. The blood is symbolic as a form of the new covenant with humanity, the same with the bread being the body. And the covenant was sealed with Christ death on the cross. We drink the wine and eat the bread as a way to remember him, so we can trust his sacrifice and receive redemption. Jesus was not greedy when the perfume was spilled on him. The woman did that out of a courtesy for him because he was the Messiah. He did not discourage, giving to the poor, because the poor will always need help.He did not refer to the person as a dog to offend them. The Jews referred to the Gentiles or Romans as filthy outsiders during that time, like dogs. He was testing the prejudice of his disciples and emphasizing that God’s compassion and forgiveness goes beyond different cultures, but goes to all of humanity, not just the Jewish, but also the Gentiles and many other races of humanity.The verse about pregnant women was not a condemnation, but a warning out of pity. Pregnancy can inhibit a woman’s movement to escape disasters. He was emphasizing the tribulation would be harsh, but also demonstrated compassion to those who are most vulnerable, such as children and pregnant women.He never said anything about slaughtering family with a sword. He didn’t come with a physical sword for violence, but a spiritual sword. It will cause divide between those who believe in him and those who do not.What you have said is blasphemous. But I do not hold hatred for you, I want you to wake up and realize the truth because as a human being as one who has been saved by Christ, I want you to be saved as well.
He actually seems like a chill guy.
>>17978663I don't hate him, nor do I love him, he is a complete non-entity to me, and his values completely foreign.
>>17979170This is the most interesting part about belief in Christianity - it's flexibility.Depending on the historical and cultural context you can fit Jesus in almost any society by cherry picking which lines are supposed to be treated literally and which ones are just like, a, metaphor bro.
>>17980637Yeah, I've sometimes wondered if this dogmatic anti dogma was conductive to how Europe was able to go through rapid reforms.
>>17978663>one of the most good, kind, compassionate, wise, and admirable people in history.Source?
>>17979871>He did not refer to the person as a dog to offend them. The Jews referred to the Gentiles or Romans as filthy outsiders during that time, like dogssounds offensive
>>17979170It is not my fault you are retarded>what is muh metaphor When Jesus said that you will attack your own family in his name it is talking about wrestling with faith in the deepest levels of consciousness and how that may or may not affect your daily life within the very walls you live in.I am sorry your brain is so porn addled and deficient from the public school system (secularized) that you have to actually believe Jesus is telling you to attack your family and not using that as a metaphor for struggles with faith even between people who love you more than anything.It is deep bro, and it requires thought not just minutes of it but years of it. I am sorry you literally got hung up on one word and thus lost all the teaching within. Almost like you are kind of a retarded nigger
>>17978663Yeah he was fine. I agree with Gandhi's statement about that
>>17981111how do you know its a metaphor? You just asume it is
>>17981138Because I unlike you have a brain, go ahead and kill your family. What consequences will that have? Do you think far ahead for consequences? Do you need the rules spelled out for you as well?>thou shall not killSo now that we have an apparent contradiction you can choose to understand the text LITERALLY or METAPHORICALLY in how you proceed next.The CHOICE is still yours. Is this making sense to the silly ape brain yet? No? Beuller?
>He was one of the most good, kind, compassionate, wise, and admirable people in history.We don't know a lot about the actual historical Jesus. People base their understanding of him on the gospels, but those were written at least 40 years after he died by anonymous authors, so their validity was highly dubious. If you take many of the things that he likely said and put them in their proper context you begin to see a different figure. To the best of our knowledge, he as an apocalyptic prophet who thought God was two weeks away from returning. So his supposed "turn the other cheek" is really a reflection of his belief that struggles are not important now, since the world is soon to come to an end. Why get in struggles with your neighbors, or go to war? God is coming back really soon and that will all be pointless.
Holy shit OP got demolished, how embarrassing
>>17978663Also, I'd like to point out that surgeons and doctors undergo years of grueling training and do backbreaking labor to actually heal the sick, instead of what jesus did which was scam lepers into thinking that they're cured, yet you don't see doctors idolized to the same extent.
>>17979192As always, context is everything anon.In regards to Matthew 26, first here is the event from John's account:>3 Then Mary took about a pint[a] of pure nard, an expensive perfume; she poured it on Jesus’ feet and wiped his feet with her hair. And the house was filled with the fragrance of the perfume.>4 But one of his disciples, Judas Iscariot, who was later to betray him, objected,>5 “Why wasn’t this perfume sold and the money given to the poor? It was worth a year’s wages.[b]”>6 He did not say this because he cared about the poor but because he was a thief; as keeper of the money bag, he used to help himself to what was put into it.>7 “Leave her alone,” Jesus replied. “It was intended that she should save this perfume for the day of my burial.>8 You will always have the poor among you,[c] but you will not always have me.”This happened 2 days before Jesus' crucifixion, and the day in which Judas Iscariot exchanged Jesus' life for 30 pieces of silver. Even ignoring Judas, Jesus clearly did not accept the woman's gesture out of vanity, but out of mournful acceptance of His impending death. Should He have denied the woman, she certainly would've lived the rest of her days regretting not anointing Him.In regards to Matthew 25 (actually 15):First, in the koine greek the word used is "kunarion", which means little dog or puppy. This is different from "kuon", which does mean dog and is used when using the word in a negative sense (Revelation 22:15). Second, here is the event again from a different account, in order to get the full picture (which also uses "kunarion", showing that the wording wasn't simply a mistake):cont.
>>17981675>First, in the koine greek the word used is "kunarion", which means little dog or puppy. This is different from "kuon", which does mean dog and is used when using the word in a negative sense (Revelation 22:15). Second, here is the event again from a different account, in order to get the full picture (which also uses "kunarion", showing that the wording wasn't simply a mistake):That's just mental gymnastics and apologism.
>>17981675>First, in the koine greek the word used is "kunarion", which means little dog or puppy. This is different from "kuon", which does mean dog and is used when using the word in a negative sense (Revelation 22:15). Second, here is the event again from a different account, in order to get the full picture (which also uses "kunarion", showing that the wording wasn't simply a mistake):>cont.The majority of translations use "dog" and even if it was "puppy" it wouldn't make any difference. Jesus was comparing Gentiles to dogs, big or small, it doesn't matter.https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Matthew%2015%3A26
>>17978663Pedo, eunuch, crybaby.....PASS!
>>17981675>>17979192Mark 7>24 Jesus left that place and went to the vicinity of Tyre.[g] He entered a house and did not want anyone to know it; yet he could not keep his presence secret.>25 In fact, as soon as she heard about him, a woman whose little daughter was possessed by an impure spirit came and fell at his feet.>26 The woman was a Greek, born in Syrian Phoenicia. She begged Jesus to drive the demon out of her daughter.>27 “First let the children eat all they want,” he told her, “for it is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to the dogs.”>28 “Lord,” she replied, “even the dogs under the table eat the children’s crumbs.”>29 Then he told her, “For such a reply, you may go; the demon has left your daughter.”>30 She went home and found her child lying on the bed, and the demon gone.So the woman should not have come to Him, this is why He did not respond to her at first.The metaphor is meant to explain Jesus' ministry, i.e. that he cannot proselytize to everyone, as he only has enough time for the jews of Israel. As in the metaphor, you should not take your child's food and give it to the pet dog, because then your child would starve. The jews were the priority, because they had been given the old covenant, and thus were the ones to whom the Messiah was prophesied to come. Of course, it is to be understood through the metaphor, that the little dog is not left to starve. On one final note, as proof that this has nothing to do with racial superiority, here is a passage from Matthew 27 about the jews which deny Jesus:>24 When Pilate saw that he was getting nowhere, but that instead an uproar was starting, he took water and washed his hands in front of the crowd. “I am innocent of this man’s blood,” he said. “It is your responsibility!”>25 All the people answered, “His blood is on us and on our children!”I'll respond soon to the replies, give me a short while as I haven't read them yet.
>>17981720The goyim should be grateful to be adopted as puppies in the messiah's household.
>>17981708>>17981720I know english uses the word "dog", that does not mean that it is correct. The new testament was written in koine greek, and so it should be critiqued for it's koine greek.Jesus was using a metaphor, it's wrong to take this literally as meaning that He sees gentiles as animals. And even if we were to go by that logic, should that mean that Jesus saw his followers, which he often calls sheep in His metaphors, as dumb animals? Obviously not.
>>17978663You can't. His values are the best out of any religion.>>17978678That's just the truth. You don't gain superpowers. He was almost a socialist. All are one under God. You only need to take up swords on those who are lost in evil. Jesus was sent to destroy evil. We are talking about Jesus, and, he never raised a sword, either.
>>17981769>Jesus was using a metaphorYes, that gentiles were less than Jews.
>>17978795Depends on the person. Also, since when does following a religion make you perfect
>>17981786That jews were the one to whom Jesus was sent to, because that is what was prophesied in the old testament. Only by establishing the new covenant through His death did the old covenant, establishing the jews as God's chosen people, become void. And so by that could everyone who believes in Him, including gentiles, be saved. As for the ethnic jews who killed Him, they and their children are responsible for His death, resulting in them suffering painfully and justly again and again through history.But, by the way you respond, I'm throwing my pearls to pigs. There, I've described you as a pig, you should take this literally and be angry. Assume also that I am an oyster.
>>17979192>>Slaughter your family with a sword if they oppose meIt's the other way around.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_Martyrs_of_Tlaxcala
>>17981820>Only by establishing the new covenant through His death did the old covenant, establishing the jews as God's chosen people, become void.Pauline fanfiction
