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North European paternal Y dna in the mesolthic: I and R1
North European paternal Y dna in the neolithic: I and R1
North European paternal Y dna in Bronze Age: I and R1.
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>>17979461
>r1 not in Western Europe or Scandinavia until after 2900 bc
>I only i2 in western and north Western Europe before 3000 bc. I1 lineages that are now extinct existed in Iberia around 8000 bc but modern Nordic lineages of I1 only came around 2000 bc
You are invaders. Keep quiet and sit down.
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>>17979527
Silence, slav(e). Your are asiatic invaders.
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>>17979461
true

>>17979527
>r1 not in Western Europe or Scandinavia until after 2900 bc
r1 was in western europe before the bronze age, villabruna for example
> I1 lineages that are now extinct existed in Iberia around 8000 bc but modern Nordic lineages of I1 only came around 2000 bc
incorrect, one shg is I1
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>>17979461
>North European paternal Y dna in the mesolthic
>North European paternal Y dna in the neolithic
>R1
You wish lol.
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>>17979461
booba
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Northern Europe was entirely I2 with Q in the Mesolithic, Neolithic, and Copper Age.

Late Bronze Age I1 and R1b invaded Northern Europe and 90% of Y dna from Ireland to Sweden were replaced by LBK and Bell Beakers cucking the Corded Ware and Pitted Ware.

Iron Age Balto-Slavs and Finland got cucked by Uralics creating modern Slavgrels and Fingols.
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>>17984525
bhgs had r1b, ehgs had r1b and r1a, shgs had I1
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>>17984573
SHG were I2 and Q. BHG were I2. EHG did have both R1a and R1b without the modern variants, but they did not inhabit any part of Northern Europe.
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>>17984525
We R1BVLLS didn't stop conquering until we reached the Pacific Ocean.
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>>17984678
R1b arose in Asia on the coast of the Pacific Ocean after all
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>>17984591
1 shg was I1, many bhgs were r1b
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>>17984591
also, the shgs with r1a and r1b are from karelia, that is definitely in northern europe
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>>17984755
None of the SHG were I1. Most of the BHG were I2 and none of the BHG had a modern variant of R.
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>>17984761
Wrong on both claims. SHG did not inhabit Karelia. Karelia is in Eastern Europe, not Northern Europe.
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>>17984766
>None of the SHG were I1.
incorrect

>Most of the BHG were I2 and none of the BHG had a modern variant of R.
irrelevant, OP said simply R1 and bhgs had r1

>>17984771
>. SHG did not inhabit Karelia. Karelia is in Eastern Europe, not Northern Europe.
EHG inhabited karelia, that's what i meant, and yes that's northern europe, northeast europe is northern europe, don't be pedantic
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>>17984801
>incorrect
It is pre-I1.

>irrelevant, OP said simply R1 and bhgs had r1
A minority had extinct subclades which means complete Y dna replacement in Northern Europe by invaders from Eastern Europe.

>EHG inhabited karelia, that's what I meant
Then why did you say
>also, the shgs with r1a and r1b are from karelia
>shgs

>and yes that's northern europe
It is Eastern Europe and nobody considers Russian Karelia as Northern Europe.

>northeast europe is northern europe
Those are not the same things.
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>>17984815
>It is pre-I1.
it's I1
>A minority had extinct subclades which means complete Y dna replacement in Northern Europe by invaders from Eastern Europe.
OP said R1, they had R1
>Then why did you say
i made a typo
>It is Eastern Europe and nobody considers Russian Karelia as Northern Europe.
karelia is in northern europe
>Those are not the same things.
northeastern europe is in northern europe

northern europeans won
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>>17984826
>it's I1
Pre-I1 is not I1.

>OP said R1, they had R1
What does it matter what you said when these R1 were killed and replaced?

>karelia is in northern europe
Karelia is a region divided between Russia and Finland, so it is in both Northern Europe (the Finnish part) and Eastern Europe (the Russian part). The Finnish regions are in Northern Europe, while the areas in Russia, known as East Karelia, fall within the boundaries of Eastern Europe.

>northern europeans won
Eastern Europeans won. Eastern Europeans raped Northern Europeans who raped Central Europeans who raped the French who raped Iberians.
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>>17984901
it's not "pre i1" it's i1, read the study i posted
>What does it matter what you said when these R1 were killed and replaced?
OP said R1

and karelia is northern europe



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