When,if ever,is it right to hit your child?Can disciplining through fear ever bring positive effects?What do you think about your parents parenting methods and how did they affect your adult life?Feel free to share your personal stories and thoughts
>>17980511Never. Children mirror the behavior of their parents. Beating your children only teaches them that they can solve their problems by putting hands on someone else. They also get conditioned to see chimpouts as normal daily occurrences to be respected as a sign of strength rather than low IQ and impulse control.
>>17980511You're making this thread to terrorize me for generating an AI picture of a map room you retarded delusional tranny. I think "parents" should have their skulls beaten in with a hammer if they think hey should be allowed to rape their kid's mind and terrorize, harass, abuse, threaten them for literally anything they do
>>17980511I am not taking a hard stance on this on 4chan of all places so take this for what its worth, but I was smacked growing up as a form of discipline (sometimes with a wooden or plastic spoon if I was extra naughty), and looking back I can see some of it being parental exasperation at their children being disobedient kids knowingly doing something they shouldn't be doing; but for the overwhelming majority it most definitely was disciplinary. Personally, I have absolutely zero problem with how I was raised. In fact I would go so far as to say that every smack I received I deserved. Now maybe that just means I had good parents, or maybe it just means I was a bit of a mongrel lol, but whatever is the case I do not think for a single second that not one of them was deserved.When thinking about it I don't know what else my parents were supposed to do but give me a smack. I definitely am not impacted by it as an adult and the very notion of that idea kind of makes me laugh, and if anything it shows how far we've fallen as a society that the slightest form of physical discipline is seen as obscene. Especially when we live in a time where parents are happy to let their children go through hormone therapy & etc, which is obviously far more damaging than a stray disciplinary wack. One thing I will say is that the smacks I remember the most are the ones which I received in public, and I don't remember the pain or anything like that, but I remember the embarrassment and shame for getting a smack on the behind (due to misbehaving) where others could see.If I were forced to take a stance, I would say that I was grateful I was physically disciplined. At the very least, when growing up it shows that there are limits. That there is punishment you can't avoid if you go too far. In fact to this day my brother and myself sometimes laugh about the deserved smacks we received when we were younger; so ultimately it's been a point of bonding in a society where family separates.
>>17980511As a circumcised man, I’ve come to realize that, deep down, most parents want to be tyrants. They want to be Stalin. They want to be Mao.But they are not smart enough for that. They are not wealthy enough for that. They are not influential enough for that. But what they can do is have 3 sons and be the tyrant of their own little household for 18+ years. And so they do.And that’s it. The logic ends there. They just want control. They want to tell another human what to do and how to live. They want to decide how much cock skin they get to keep. They want to decide their religion, their chores, their hobbies.And that’s all there is to it. Parents are, often, just living out there their tyrannical fantasies, which is why their behavior seems so irrational at times.If you complain to your mother and father that you don’t want to be circumcised since you’re now Jewish, they say something to the effect of “Who cares what you think?” As if it’s not your penis. And that’s their perspective on everything. You’re a dog to them. A pet they can put on Christmas Cards. Nothing more.No, I don’t visit my parents anymore. No, I do not have a family of my own. Fuck this gay, Jewish planet.
>>17980591Why would a parent be thinking about the sexual pleasure of their child?Are you okay?
>>17980594>Why would a parent be thinking about the sexual pleasure of their child?Maybe because most non-insane parents would recognize that their “baby” will somehow day be a man who’d like to love a woman and engage in the most important relationship any human being can develop (marriage). Also, the whole point of circumcision was to prevent you boys from masturbating, so they could at least look 14 years in the future, but apparently not 20 years into the future when your gooning, teenage son is now a grown man who’d wish to consummate his marriage as a woman. But most parents don’t care anyways and just “go with the flow, man.”>Are you okay?Yes, I’m actually the only okay man on a planet full of retarded psycopaths. Fuck humanity. You’re all crazy. I’m the only sane one.
>>17980594he’s clearly not okay, he’s circumcised
>>17980594You're talking to a schizophrenic Spic (or MENA, same timezone) who has a particularly weird fixation on circumcision
>>17980610Spics don’t circumcise.
>>17980640Yeah I know, which makes him even more sad.
>>17980643Far more likely that he’s an American white, which are the only people that do it (outside of 3rd world shitholes that don’t even have internet).I also live in the USA, but my dad is from Norway. He thought the cock chopping ritual was weird, and was adamantly against it. Incredibly strange that Americans still do it.
>>17980659it’s really quite simple, americans over the age of 45 all worship the secular nation Israel
>>17980659>Far more likely that he’s an American whiteNope, he's a Spic and he's posted here before
>>17980604We are indeed all retarded psychopaths I will give you that (but that includes you :p) haha. However, if you put yourself in the shoes of your parents and ask yourself what decisions you would make, what would you do differently? I'm guessing circumcision is one, but ultimately the amount of skin around ones penis does not define the person's life. If you had horrible parents I can definitely understand that as being damaging, and in some cases irreparable. However, if you're able to post on 4chan about issues you've thought about a great deal then you are also able to think abstractly about your own self. Please, ask yourself if your issues are with your parents' decisions or if they are with something else that is external or internal. If internal, what? and if external, then realise it's not actually your parents and rather has something to do with the thing you chose.Heck, you might be psychologically and theologically correct about the issue of circumcision, but out of all the historical people you can muster in your mind how much do you know about their penis skin? Please consider that you may be putting too much importance on an issue that otherwise doesn't matter to anyone else, and that it is very likely that this issue is a stand-in for other issues you may have either with your parents, society, existence & etc.
>>17980679>I'm guessing circumcision is one, but ultimately the amount of skin around ones penis does not define the person's life. It’s a pretty big part of it, you fucking retard. Guess what? Your body is the only thing you actually own in this shit life. You don’t own your lifted F-150. But you do own your own flesh and blood, including your penis.>If you had horrible parents I can definitely understand that as being damaging, and in some cases irreparable.Yes, I did have horrible parents.>However, if you're able to post on 4chan about issues you've thought about a great deal then you are also able to think abstractly about your own self. Please, ask yourself if your issues are with your parents' decisions or if they are with something else that is external or internal. If internal, what? and if external, then realise it's not actually your parents and rather has something to do with the thing you chose.What are you philosophizing about you fucking pseud-retard?>Hurr, it’s not actually duh surgical rape you are upset about. It’s actually your feelings are some shit.Guess what? We live in a physical universe. Circumcising is no different than removing your son’s arm (it’s arguably worse). You can “feel” any way you want about it. Your arm is gone and not coming back.>Heck, you might be psychologically and theologically correct about the issue of circumcision, I am.>but out of all the historical people you can muster in your mind how much do you know about their penis skin? A lot, actually. 99% of humanity ever was not circumcised. It was risky, expensive, and retarded. Ancient Rome even banned it. It was never even considered an option to most people until the average plebian finally had the money to afford a hospital birth. Suddenly, the average parent could afford their surgical rape fantasies, so they engaged in them. Prior to that, circumcision was off the table for most people on the planet.Fuck you, shitbag.
>>17980688>What are you philosophizing about you fucking pseud-retard?Firstly, /his/ is the only place for philosophizing my friend. And in case you don't realise, your claims about circumcision are inherently tied to morality; which if you claim circumcision is morally wrong, you can't avoid.Secondly, to argue that philosophizing is pseud territory is to defuse your arguments against circumcision. The idea that circumcision being wrong because it's like removing your son's arm on account of living in a physical universe, is a philosophical claim.Lastly, you are not defined by the amount of skin around your penis and you know this. No matter all of your arguments, you know very well that you are not your penis skin.You do not make decisions based on the fact that you do or do not have extra skin around your penis.
>>17980697>Lastly, you are not defined by the amount of skin around your penis and you know this. No matter all of your arguments, you know very well that you are not your penis skin.Yeah, you’re a fucking brain. You’re a brain floating inside a skin-suit mecha, and, guess what, your penis is a vital part of that mecha. It’s such an American idea to live in delusion and pretend like the body you exist inside of doesn’t matter.Guess what, buddy, in this life, you are a body and brain. Nothing more. You are not the clothes you wear. You are not the car you drive. You are a body and brain.
>>17980702I'm not American. Also you are currently philosphising. For example, why am I a body and a brain and nothing else?The existence of my neurons don't contain the measurable quantity of my preference for the colour beige over the colour orange. And if then something exists inside me which is immaterial, i.e., the content of dreams, preferences, specific ideas towards things (as opposed to the fact that I am dreaming, prefer something, or am thinking about an idea), then how could you possible say that I am nothing but a brain and body? Doesn't the very notion of these letters you are currently reading presuppose that which immaterial exists? For ultimately the symbolic meaning these shapes contain no measurable physical attribute. If you disagree with this, how much does the letter "t" weigh?No, your foundation for your moral assertion that your penis skin matters doesn't exist. For you can't even prove why it does, you purely just assume that it does. You my friend are more than skin around your penis and you should try your best to find out what actually ails you, because it's not the fact that you're circumcised. That's just the expression it's taking.
Why are fucking kikes and moslems so obsessed with chopping little baby foreskins?Fucking demons.
>>17980724>The existence of my neurons don't contain the measurable quantity of my preference for the colour beige over the colour orange.It does. You are retarded.
>>17980590>If I were forced to take a stance, I would say that I was grateful I was physically disciplined. At the very least, when growing up it shows that there are limits. That there is punishment you can't avoid if you go too far.In my opinion, the smack is always coming for you if you do bad. Some people through fate avoid it all their life until it hits them quite hard in the face around their mid-twenties. These are what we know as criminals and, if you speak to them, I assume you will get a long history of disobedience and leniency which encouraged and emboldened them. In other words, parental discipline and even discipline at school is entirely necessary for curtailing criminal behaviour, although this theory doesn't account for every case. Some people do not fear the consequences of their actions coming back to bite them and there is nothing a man won't attempt to justify after the fact: murder, theft, cheating, lying and fraud, assault, etc., etc.have you ever heard that everyone in jail is innocent?
>>17980745What are the physical properties of the preference for beige over orange? Give me one property that differentiates it from preferring blue over orange. Information is immaterial mate. You can't read this without believing that and that means something which is immaterial exists inside you (as it's localised information).
>>17980576>You're making this thread to terrorize me for generating an AI picture of a map room you retarded delusional tranny.wtf? Take your meds.
>>17980511A slap is appropriate when used on small children who are chimping out, jumping around, screaming, pushing things over. Sometimes they just lose control and there is no use talking to them, a slap makes them stop and calm down. Its not just "easy" for the parents but also protects the child from hurting themselves during their tardrage. In fact a slap is less damaging than gaslighting a child into feeling ashamed or stupid or whatever these pedogogues want parents to do when their little demon is summoning satan in a supermarket. But if you apply beatings for "discipline" and "learning" you are a fucking retard. And please dont spank them, they will turn it into a fetish later in life.
>>17980591>As a circumcised manYou're basically a tranny to me
>>17980784>What are the physical properties of the preference for beige over orange?Neurons in the brain being connected in different ways than the neurons of a person who prefers orange over beige
>>17980511Life is unfair and stupid, this is a harsh lesson children ought to be taught at the ripest age.