Why do communists and socialists like open borders, the international ect., when open borders only benefit the mega rich banker class and are always massively detrimental to humans ?
>>17981855How are the closed borders working out for North Korea?
>>17981855>when open borders only benefit the mega rich banker classThat only happens in a crapitalist system>and are always massively detrimental to humansHaving the right to roam is beneficial to humans
because most of them are deranged troons who don't care about the aryan worker at all, they want to destroy everything because daddy doesn't believe they are real women but since they are too lazy and useless to fight a revolution they invite others to do it, the more violent and dysgenic the better
only modern ones dolabor unions were the main supporters of things like the white australia policy and californian anti-asian laws
>>17981855Why would people move around en masse if there wasn't weighted economic draws elsewhere?
>>17981894>muh trannies
>>17981855They don't really care or think about rconomics, they are just race traitors who like perversions and drugs. This why they like black supremacist organizations like the Econmic Freedom Fighters, but hate movements like Return to the Land (White segregationist community). Communists are just violent progressives.>>17981905Yeah, those were not real communists. They were despised for that by the real left.
This was more common in the past than it is now. European socialists in the 19th century often supported relatively free movement, because industrial workers like the ones in Ireland were already migrating to bigger countries like Britain.. They hoped migrant workers would strengthen labor movements.
>>17981881It’s the only thing keeping that country together because everyone would leave otherwise.
>>17981855"Rule or Ruin".....if """They""" can't run the Show, then they'll just ruin it for everyone else instead. Breaking cultural cohesion is an essential first step in fostering a "Revolution" for the Prole-----blah----blah-----blah
Communists and Socialists generally hate immigration because they see it as exploitation. I’m a Neoliberal. I support free movement of labor because it enhances market efficiency, facilitates growth, and feeds development. Goods and Services becomes drastically more affordable, and new jobs are created to meet the demand of the newcomers. The aggregate talent pool is widened and deepened as everyone can put their collective skills together. New blood also helps relieve the burden on the youth to support the elderly who can no longer work but still require services.
>>17981881>zero indianspretty well
>>17982015>They hoped migrant workers would strengthen labor movementsbut they do the opposite
>>17982035>I support free movement of labor because it enhances market efficiency, facilitates growth, and feeds development.it fucks over workers in favor of jewish bankers
>>17981855>Why do communists and socialists like open bordersAmericans are so retarded
>>17982760Americans have gone to the moon. yuros invented trannies and 175,000 yuros die each year because yuros are too retarded to invent AC
>>17981855>when open borders only benefit the mega rich banker classThey don't. Being able to freely move actually works against them.>are always massively detrimental to humans ?Is this even /his/ anymore.
>>17982745>they do the oppositeImmigrants can and do join unions. The only they don't is if they move to a place that is super anti-union or have that gay ads "white collar/trades workers don't need unions" BS.
Marx was a stateless person, and communists need open borders to infiltrate and be agent provocateurs
>>17982768>import tons of indians and mexicans to work for less than minimum wage>bad for the mega richlmao>>17982773they don't. immigrants are scabs
>>17982776He was forcefully stripped of status dumbass.>communists need open borders to infiltrate and be agent provocateursWhere do you guys come up with this stuff.
>>17982785>they don't. immigrants are scabsYet many are in unions and several immigrant heavy workplaces in the states actually became unionized due ro the work of said fobs.>import tons of indians and mexicans to work for less than minimum wageThey can't work for less than minimum wage unless they are illegals but that's the fault of the law breaking owner of the company/workplace.
>>17982787>He was forcefully stripped of status dumbass.Exactly, dumbass, because he was a violent agent provocateur. It is harder to be one if you don't have the state protecting you like anti-fa does.
>>17982791>Yet many are in unions and several immigrant heavy workplaces in the states actually became unionized due ro the work of said fobs.you are a gay yuro tranny. h1b indians and illegals have been used to absolutely fuck over American workers and waged because they are scabs. the CEO of microsoft just fired 11,000 Americans for 16,000 indians this year. hell there are internal amazon and whole foods memos saying that illegals and indians prevent unions>They can't work for less than minimum wage unless they are illegals illegals work for less than minimum wage and h1b indians will work for less than market rate, often less than minimum wage when you factor in hours worked in conditions that osha would say are illegal. >but that's the fault of the law breaking owner of the company/workplace.because immigration only benefits the mega rich owner class
>>17981968>They were despised for that by the real left.The Australian section of the second Internationale argued that deporting all non-whites was a socialist position. Historically Australian Marxists supported the White Australia policy when it was implemented in 1901 via the immigration restriction act. The Australian Labor party and Workers Union were both founded in harsh opposition to multiracialism and mass migration. The last leader of the Labor party who called himself a socialist, Arthur Calwell, was also one of the last major politician in Australia to support the White Australia policy and the last leader of any major party.
>>17982814That's nice trivia, but irrelevant in lieu of the reality that every major western communist party has the opposite view of that.
>>17982801>he was a violent agent provocateur.He wasnt. >It is harder to be one if you don't have the state protecting you like anti-fa doesAre you trapped in the mid 2010s?
>>17982803Your fee fees don't alter the reality of immigrants taking part in unions and labour movements.>hell there are internal amazon and whole foods memos saying that illegals and indians prevent unionsCan't even get your info right, worse is that you fail to realize that a big part of the unionization efforts in those Amazon workplaces were led by immigrants. A lot of the diverse workplaces in the Amazon umbrella actually protested too.>illegals work for less than minimum wage and h1b indians will work for less than market rate, often less than minimum wage when you factor in hours worked in conditions that osha would say are illegal. Blame your shitty government for siding with the transport and farmer lobby. Also you left out many factories and meatplants in the US hired AMERICAN KIDS and still do.
>>17982851>don't alter the reality of immigrants taking part in unions and labour movements.they don't. illegals and h1bs hurt labor movements because they are scabs, you tranny >Can't even get your info right,my info is right, you troon. if illegals and h1bs didn't fuck over labor, musk and bezos wouldn't be exclusively employing h1bs and illegals, you retarded troon> Blame your shitty government for siding with the transport and farmer lobby. yeah, you yuro troon. the government should ban h1bs and make it the death penalty to employ h1bs or illegals
>>17982862>illegals and h1bs hurt labor movements because they are scabs, you trannyMost immigrants aren't illegals lol.
>>17982862>the government should ban h1bs and make it the death penalty to employ h1bs or illegalsWho's gonna replace the h1bs. Most Americans are uneducated or dumb as fuck. Not like you can brain drain East Europe any further.
>>17982869h1bs are also scabs, you troon>>17982871you could have literal retards replace h1bs. h1bs don't provide any value, they are just cheaper slave labor. and the average American has about 40 more iq points than the average yuro
>>17982846He was. He openly called for terrorism and violent revolution.>Are you trapped in the mid 2010s?Do you just spend all your time on dicklesscord and X arguing about for communism because you're a jobless loser like Marx? Like, if you're trying to convince people to be communists you're doing a poor job.
>>17981855Because its capitalism's shadow
>>17981889Elites will still exist in your gibmunist utopia.
>>17982851At least in the U.S., socialism was historically an immigrant workers' movement, or at least disproportionately so, because at times the workforce was quite literally a bunch of immigrants, or people who had immigrant parents. The major strikes in the late 1800s involvd a workforce that was heavily German in origin, and many socialist newspapers in the country then were published in the German language. Then came the Jews from the Russian Empire around the turn of the century.
>>17983366>no, I'll help you get jobs by importing scabs who will work for below market rate
>>17981855Open borders is a capitalist scam to drive down wages. True socialism is international worker solidarity against the billionaire class exploiting all of us. We want to dismantle the system, not be its cheap labor.
>>17982846>Are you trapped in the mid 2010s?There are unironically a bunch of balding millennials on this board who still think Obama era idpol is relevant.
>>17981855>Why do communists and socialists like open borderscommies & socfags only like "open borders" when they are trying to destroy a capitalist countryafter they get power then surprise the borders are closed
>>17984181Capitalism thrives off of cheap labor and lax global trade. You're retarded.
>>17981855They don't support open borders, in fact they try to physically contain people within their borders. Their problem is mass emigration, not immigration.
>>17984201“Mass migration’ as a concept didn’t even exist back then because the near East wasn’t completely destabilized for Israel yet. Maybe the Turks in the BDR but besides that there weren’t really mass enclaves of migrants.
>>17982743That's a really good point. >>17984075>Obama era idpol is relevantIdentity is everything and always will be. You cannot separate identity from values and voting patterns.
>>17984236>2010s is foreverGo start a family, unc.
>>17982749>jewish bankers>not just bankers in generalHere we see the right winger's faggotry and cuckoldry in full display. He's completely fine with the environment being raped by billionaires as long as they aren't Jewish. A useful idiot to the end.
>>17984067that is the intention
>>17984258all bankers are jewish, retard
>>17984271That's demonstrably untrue. It's faggots like you who keep rich manipulative people in power by coming across as a directionless racist with no point.
>>17984279>directionless>no pointthere's a direction there, retardo
>>17984310>retardoOh it's the christogenea spammer. I thought i was talking to a real person for a moment.
>>17984313I have no idea what the fuck christogenea is, ricky retardo
>>17981855It is a long-term play.Open borders accelerate the contradictions of capitalism. It floods the labor market, crushes wages, and makes the system eat itself. The global proletariat uniting is the only way to seize the means.
