Similarities may be due to shared symbolic motifs in Mediterranean culture, such as ritual ecstasy, rather than direct borrowing.

>>17982106
Nope that's in correct. The story of Jesus is just a re-telling of the story of Dionysus a.k.a. Osiris

>>17981862

>The Lord and His Son are pagan "gods"

Bait used to be believable.

>>17982911
>Dionysus: son of Zeus (god) + Semele (mortal) divine-human hybrid
>Jesus: son of God + Mary (mortal) divine-human hybrid
>both miraculous, both god-men saviors
>Dionysus: turns water into wine, spreads vine as sacred gift
>Jesus: first miracle = turns water into wine at Cana
>exact same divine signature wine = god’s power
>Dionysus: followers drink sacred wine it IS the god, gives ecstasy + immortality
>Jesus: followers drink consecrated wine it IS his blood, gives union + eternal life
>Christian Eucharist = straight copy of Dionysian communion
>Dionysus: torn apart by Titans, dies, reborn (Zagreus myth)
>Jesus: crucified, dies, resurrected after 3 days
>god suffers, god returns, followers share in salvation
>Dionysus: vine, wine, shepherd of ecstatic flock
>Jesus: “I am the true vine,” wine = blood, shepherd of the faithful
>imagery overlaps point-for-point
>Dionysus: liberator of outsiders, overturns order, brings divine joy
>Jesus: savior of sinners + poor, overturns order, brings divine joy
>both gods of the marginalized, both promise freedom through union with them
The connection between Jove and Jehovah is even more obvious so I won't go into that

>>17982926

Bullshit. Meds, now.

>>17982944
Holy cope, you are quite the dumbass. Christcuck fatigue is real

>>17982926
>>Dionysus: son of Zeus (god) + Semele (mortal) divine-human hybrid
>>Jesus: son of God + Mary (mortal) divine-human hybrid
Jesus is not believed to be a divine-human hybrid. Also Dyonysius is very much a god, not a human.
>>both miraculous,
Every god is miraculous, that's the entire point of them being gods.
>both god-men saviors
Dyonysius is not a savior of anything.
>>Dionysus: turns water into wine,
Source? He's of course related to wine, but I don't know any myth in which he turs water into wine.
>spreads vine as sacred gift
Which Jesus never does.
>>Jesus: first miracle = turns water into wine at Cana
Where does it say that it was his first miracle?
>>exact same divine signature wine = god’s power
Turning water into wine is not Jesus' signature miracle. Multiplying, bread and fish, walking on water, curing the blind, exorcizing demons, resurrecting people, are just as famous mircales of him as the wine.
>>Dionysus: followers drink sacred wine it IS the god, gives ecstasy + immortality
>>Jesus: followers drink consecrated wine it IS his blood, gives union + eternal life
>>Christian Eucharist = straight copy of Dionysian communion
Now you're being absurd, Dyonisian parties were more akin to raves in which everyone got hammered and thought that Dyonisus was possessing them. The diametrical opposite of the Eucharist.
>>Dionysus: torn apart by Titans, dies, reborn (Zagreus myth)
You know rebirth is not the same as resurrection, right?

>>17982926
>>17982958
>>god suffers, god returns, followers share in salvation
Dionyisus doesn't come back, and there is no salvation.
>>Dionysus: vine, wine, shepherd of ecstatic flock
Dionysius is never referred as a shepherd. Also you're over-emphasizing the wine aspect when Jesus is just as much conected to water, bread, fish, as he is with wine.
>>imagery overlaps point-for-point
Except of course for all of the other imagery related to Jesus which Dionysius doesn't share.....
>liberator of outsiders,
>savior of sinners + poor,
So, not the same at all?
>overturns order,
Jesus literally said that he didn't come to abolish the law.
>brings divine joy
The fuck does this even mean? I'm pretty sure that every god that is remotely popular brings joy to his followers, who the fuck would follow a god that brings you dread?
>>both gods of the marginalized,
I've never heard Dionyisus referred as a god of the marginalized. He's basically a drunk party animal obsessed with chaos. How is that similar to Jesus?
>both promise freedom through union with them
Source? Also Jesus never promised his followers freedom, but eternal life.

>>17982926
This got the christcucks bubblin'

>>17982974
You know you're just repeating bullshit talking points that have been debunked by both Christians and Atheists since Zeitgeist was released, right?

>>17981862
Correct. Jesus didn't exist and the story borrows from pre-existing mythology.

>>17981862
No Jesus is the Lamb and Dionysus is the Goat that is Archangel Samael also the Buddha & Metatron

>>17982979
>muh deboonked
Literally no one debunked it. Dionysus is the Greek version of Tammuz who is even more similar btw

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>>17982106
The God of the New Testament bible is the God of Scripture/The Word.
Juba II's nickname was Rex Literatissimus.
Jesus simply carried through the epiphany that Juba II had by method-acting the entire bible to prove that he knew all of it and that he was the culmination of the text that preceded him.
The biblical god is a literal information hazard/self fulfulling prophecy of dumb animals pretending to know how the info of text interacts with herds of people over time.
Jews lie on purpose because they know that the God of Scripture is only able to manifest through feedback loops of truth.

>>17981862
Yes, He's the boring, knock-off, no hot chicks, and therefore very Jewish, wannabe Dionysus. They really didn't even try to hide it much.

"I am the True Vine".......real subtle Jesus......real subtle.

>>17984539
Please elaborate

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>>17985689
Scripture lives its own subconcious life through groups of humans due to the phonetics, cues and assosiations that its reader and speaker inflicts upon it over time. People may insist that they recite things honestly and accurately, but linguistic drift is a thing mainly due to shortcuts and syncretizations.
Also, the recitement of easy-to-pronounce words versus confusing and hard-to-pronounce words has a direct effect on the hormones and mood of the person trying to recite it - which in turn modulates their behavior and any group that recites one version/pronounciation versus another.
The meme about german being a harsh and longwinded language has a real psychological output not only on german itself, but anyone who tries to learn it or interact with a german person.
Language and scripture as "epigenetics" that has to do with the tone of voice, associations, level of literacy, historical accuracy and closeness to source material of the writer reciter and reader.
This is in part why the many "modes" of poetry used to be so important, because it was not always about the letters on the page themselves but also about preserving melody, the social standing of the relevant sound, patterns of word relevance and much more.
Scripture used to be about preserving the whole atmosphere of the story, like a movie or stage act. Religion based on scripture, in light of this, is also meant to "act out" a certain pattern throughout its host herd which the author had in mind, but which the herd itself might be oblivious or knowingly oblivious of their own mental shortcoming. Hence why some people get heightened to the status of prophet, because they are conductors of the act.

>>17985803
>Language and scripture as "epigenetics"
has

>>17981862
That's like saying a campfire is a nuclear reactor because they both give off heat. Dying and rising figures existed in dozens of cults. Does that make them all the same?

>>17985905
It does when the motifs are repeating?