So basically, this guy was so annoying that they had to kill him.
>>17982168Normies and governments (normie herding gangs) hate thinking and free inquiry so much that they'll kill you rather than permit it.
>>17982168Yes, but why do you think that anon?
>>17982168No sweetie
>is given an out>Doesn't take itNarcissism?
>>17982168He didn't believe in the city's Gods and also introduced a new kind of quasi-religious framework with respect to his Daimonion (which was actually just his inner monologue).
>>17982187someone had to be sacrificed to the gods
>>17982464Nah the "gods" just dont let the status quo get rocked past a certain point because apparently this shitshow is their idea of an optimal time.
>>17982168imagine a grown man who just imitates Johnny from that one episode of Ed, Edd, n Eddy sayingWHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHYalso he was probably fucking his student boys, though that was not uncommon in old Greece
>>17982473it seems that this is how it must be and remain
>>17982168...and also gay.....very, very, very gay. Ol' Socrates was the beginning of the end and the first sign that the "True Hellenes", like Alcibiades(one of his many lovers), were over. The original emo, edge lord, gay wod.
>>17982552Both of Socrates main philosophical influences among the presocratics were gay- Heraclitus with Hermodorus (who was driven from Ephesus) and Parmenides with Zeno of Elea
>>17982464Why do you think this?
No one has mentioned yet that Socrates is the only taught philosopher that has nothing left of what he wrote or thought. 100% of our sources are what people thought and wrote about him.Imagine that.
>>17982709same with Jesus, Buddha, Mohammed, etc...None of the "Greats" wrote anything down.
>>17982168He was the original culture of critique
>>17982168Annoying? Kind ofHe got really good at public debate, dumbing complicated ideologies down so that plebs could understand - and then full force mind raped the 80% of idiots who make up the majority of society into understanding the complex issues of the 20% who are intelligent (such as you and I)Understanding the complicated issues of every day life which the government holds in place - beholding their own hypocrisy - awakening to the realization they’re filth - that’s what made the plebs homicidal with rage against himYeah, annoying
>>17982464Yes, because pagan gods are demons.
>>17982802In Christianity, Jesus is the chicken.
>>17982183If I asked you for a justification for everything you do, you'd be annoyed too,Sometimes, unironically, the answer is JUST BECAUSE OKAY? Nature doesn't need reason, in fact reason can distort nature
>>17982865>can't logically explain what he does>afraid of the examined lifelmao
>>17982168Scorates, and his acolyte Plato and in turn Aristotle all got BTFO'd by the sophists and that is despite the caricaturesque way they present the sophists in their writings.
>>17984434Sophists are still like that though. People who think by many words or flowery languagr or something they can convince the audience they are right, despite not having an argument. Just look at many of the posters on 4chan, sound and fury signifying nothing.
>>17982168>Socrates was put to death largely because his persistent criticism of Athenian democracy, his influence over prominent anti-democratic figures, and his efforts to convince young citizens to question the legitimacy of democratic rule were seen as a direct threat to the fragile political order of post-war Athens.A few years later,>Plato radically overturns Socrates’ attitude toward politics.>Whereas Socrates engages with political life solely through the moral and intellectual education of citizens—without intervening directly in political structures—Plato believes that Socratic principles can only find real social expression by confronting and ultimately transforming those very structures.>The 4th century BCE was thus marked by numerous attempts—initiated by Plato and later pursued by his followers, even after the Master's death—to establish new political regimes and institutions. >These efforts often took the form of tyrannies, temporarily instituted in various cities as experimental models of governance. >Such regimes sought to achieve rapid and efficient social transformation through coercive means, deliberately bypassing the slow and uncertain process of persuading the masses.>This approach contributed to the perception of Plato’s followers as fundamentally opposed to democracy, a view further reinforced by their perceived sympathies toward Macedonian monarchy.Were they wrong?
>>17984434>all got BTFO'd by the sophistsYou mean the post-modernism wonIt's essentially the end of philosophy, because if everything is relative there's no point in trying to do something new.
>>17985024>You mean the post-modernism wonYou are exactly right. Unfortunately Plato's autistic idea of forms won over probably due to the suppression of Sophist writings. And of course religious cucks incorporated it into their faggy worldview and we had to endure Platonism for 2000 years. Thanks to Nietzsche however the world is recovering.>if everything is relative there's no point in trying to do something new.That is not an entailment. The sophists trained people in rhetorical and persuasion skills because they believed that one should seek to gain an advantage in such a relativistic world. This encourages creativity if anything.
>>17982168no, the Truth was annoying to all hypocrites/wrongdoers. that's why he was killed. he was the Jesus of the philosophers
>>17984888>Whereas Socrates engages with political life solely through the moral and intellectual education of citizens—without intervening directly in political structures—Plato believes that Socratic principles can only find real social expression by confronting and ultimately transforming those very structures.Sounds similar to how Jesus and Paul didn't emphasize political reform, but their later successors did.
>>17985053Good ol' Fred was a true believers in the "pre-Socratics" and saw Socrates as the beginning of the end of the old, "real" Greeks and a symptom of the new, whimpey, whiny, "intellectual" worldview. The irony that he spent all of his free time turning out tyrants and getting turned out by tyrants, like Alcibiades is pretty hilarious. Socrates even admitted he was ugly, weird and strange, but he was also obviously very charming, endearing and brilliant, as well. No one who met was left unaffected, for better or worse. Probably didn't need to die, especially by hemlock, which is genuinely awful, and Athens seems to have regretted it in the end, but he was the original neckbeard know it all and that always gets old after a while, particularly when they're right.
the sophists were in the rightsocrates was unironically corrupting the youth, and better off dead
>>17982168He was a pedo."Corrupting the Youth" is a euphonism used by nutless historians to excuse his behavior and make him an aethiest martyr.
>>17982168that's not even the half of it.
>>17985210Do you believe in the dead Greek gods? If not, why are you defending the ancient Athens Democrats who sentenced Socrates to death for merely asking questions about the gods. If you have ever read your Euthyphro you know, at least according to Plato, Socrates questioned whether what the gods command is always right, or if they only command what is right. The latter means that you have a standard of right and wrong INDEPENDENT of the gods. Clearly this is dangerous because it exposes the noble lie that binds the citizenry together. He certainly was no atheist neckbeard or pedo (that would be more acceptable than questioning authority in ancient Greece).>>17985127nice troll lmao, I almost believe that you are a butthurt sophist from 2400 years ago! Who is remembered? Did any sophists get mentined in fuckin' Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure?
>>17982168Annoying is getting your toga in a twist over sandal straps. The man was asking questions that exposed the entire city's of grifters. They didn't kill him for being annoying. They killed him because he proved their 'wisdom' was a house of cards and they couldn't handle the truth.
