>be homogeneous peaceful tribes who live simple lives aligned with nature>have some foreigners tell you that you're demonic for no reason at all and that you should feel guilty for existing at all and that you should be constantly repenting>these same good people after failing to convince them start to forcibly convert and even outright genocide them>few centuries later after their dictatorship they come to conclusion that only those living in the most simple ways, in monasteries deep in the forests are the most righteous ones and all the modern technology, diversity and living is only making people sinSo in the end they did the very same thing they were against?!?
Pagans were always right.
>>17983114And how does that add to the fact that you're trying to replace the natives in all the European countries?
>>17983114Damn, this Julian guy must have really hated Greco-Roman religion
>>17983104>peaceful
>>17983104>be homogeneous peaceful tribes who live simple lives aligned with naturePagan tribes regularly warred with and enslaved their neighbours. Northern European pagans also practiced human sacrifice. >have some foreigners tell you that you're demonic for no reason at all and that you should feel guilty for existing at all and that you should be constantly repenting>for no reason at allSee above. >few centuries later after their dictatorship they come to conclusion that only those living in the most simple ways, in monasteries deep in the forests are the most righteous ones and all the modern technology, diversity and living is only making people sinPrayer, fasting and seculsion have been a part of Christian life from the very beginning. >>17983114Many creatures are sentient, but only mankind is sapient. That our relationship with God should therefore be of a higher order is hardly surprising.
>>17983104>peacefulI think that stands as its own refutation
>>17983276>>17983315>>17983323>they were not peaceful because I say soIt was always someone else that attacked them. Interesting how you never mention that.
>>17983359>the pagans were always attacked by other pagansHow does this help your argument...
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>>17983362So the Christians are pagan too now? What are you even talking about? Oh and of course conveniently say it that way to not acknowledge who the other supposed pagans were.
>>17983359>the Roman Empire attacked those innocent tribes by putting their territory in their path
>>17983376>non-Europeans can't stop having warEven with Christianity, Islam etc. they still can't, nothing surprising about it...
>>17983104>be homogeneous peacefulStopped reading
>>17983378They literally did and on top of that even lost, LMAO! But I guess you don't care about history on the historical board.
>>17983388Right, this is pure evil to you.
>>17983388And yet I never heard about pagan 'jihad' or pagan 'crusade' or pagan 'holy war'. Curious.
>>17983392>>17983398If this thread were about any non European pagan you fags would be parroting the Christians ITT
>>17983400They are not the same, why's that difficult to comprehend?
>>17983398maybe you should try to read then
>>17983398I don't think you know what the word pagan refers to Anon....
>>17983390Lmao
>>17983401>I have double standards, why's that difficult to comprehendShalom
>>17983398The Romans saw every one of their conquests as a holy war.
>>17983460>double standardsWhat double standards, we are talking about different species.>shalomBut this is literally what you believe in, what do you even mean?
>>17983466>um ackshoaly my ancestors are special you are literally cattleYou sound Jewish. Like word for word Jewish.
>>17983377You said: "It was always someone else who attacked them." Do you seriously think no pagan ever attacked another pagan? >>17983398Celtic warriors would collect the heads of their enemies as trophies. Diocletian's fourth edict called for the killing of any man, woman or child who failed to perform sacrifices to the State. Vikings would regularly raid the territories of the pagan Rus and Finns; and much rape and bloodshed would occur as a result. Whilst none of these acts were referred to as "crusades" specifically, they do possess all the negative attributes the layman normally associates with one.
>>17983104>>be homogeneous peaceful tribesThe Germanic tribes were anything but peaceful.>simple lives aligned with natureThe fuck does this even mean? Everyone lived aligned with nature, Christians included, up until the Industrial Revolution. That's when we started fucking nature up the ass.>have some foreigners tell you that you're demonic for no reason at all What do you mean "no reason"? Christians' reasons are very clear.>and that you should feel guilty for existing at allNo? Literally just stop worshipping idols.>these same good people after failing to convince themThe Germanic tribes were extremely receptive towards Christianity when they first encountered it. Arius himself was quite succesful when he went to evangelize to them.>few centuries later after their dictatorship they come to conclusion that only those living in the most simple ways, in monasteries deep in the forests are the most righteous ones and all the modern technology, diversity and living is only making people sinNot even gonna bother with this retardation.
>>17983552>no pagan everObviously not, why are you being like this?>>17983585>Everyone lived aligned with natureNot really, you never respected it.>That's when we startedNope, as we can see nature is showing that your try is absolutely unsuccessful.>Christians' reasons are very clear.That's why you can't provide them.>No?>next sentence is a direct contradictionInteresting.>quite succesful>at firstSo you disproved yourself again.>Not even gonna bother with this retardation.But of course, you have nothing to say after all.
>>17983104those forcing "religion" on others are not religious or spiritual. those are the wrongdoers claiming to be religious. they misguide many non-religious people, but true religious people spot them easily
>>17983585>The Germanic tribes were extremely receptive towards Christianityfor the same reasons they were receptive to roman customs; it brought gold, status and association with a powerful culture. frankish and anglo gold converted more kings than any bibles. >AriusChristianity? I thought that was Arianism, a heretical faith that the true christians stamped out. should you really be so proud that they were receptive to a heretical way? I dont see you bragging about the churkas being converted from paganism to islam. isnt that a win for you monotheist bros?
>>17983315>Many creatures are sentient, but only mankind is sapient. That our relationship with God should therefore be of a higher order is hardly surprisingYou didn't understand what Julian said: He said that the world didn't come to be with the intent to satisfy anybody and anything. It doesn't care about our victories, and it absolutely doesn't care about our woes. All beings are born, live, and die. Abrahamanics insist that life, and only humanity among all species, were created for a higher purpose, and that humans are superior to every other species because of this fact.
>>17984114>Not really, you never respected it.1. I'm not Christian2. What do you mean by "respect it"? Pagans were also affecting the natural world and disrupting it whenever it got in their way.>>That's when we started>Nope, as we can see nature is showing that your try is absolutely unsuccessful.I take it that you don't believe in climate change?>That's why you can't provide them.Christians believe that their gods were either not real or just the trick of demons, so that's why they had to tear down their idols. That's why.>>next sentence is a direct contradictionYou think that worshipping idols is the same as "existing at all"?>>at firstNo? Not at first. Western Christiand had to fight off Arianism for a couple of centuries because they had adopted it wholesale. It wasn't until Islam arrived that Christians had other group to deal with.
>>17984192>Christianity?Yes? Arian Christianity existed.>I thought that was Arianism, a heretical faith that the true christians stamped out.That's what Christians believe.
>>17983139>anon doesn't know the "Greco-Roman religion" wasn't an unified religion until Julian II, having different cults and schools fighting and evolving each other for centuries
>>17984360>Pagans were also affecting the natural world and disrupting it whenever it got in their way.Right, that's why you didn't prove it.>I take it that you don't believe I meant something else but whatever. >That's why.So your feels are considering a form of reasoning now?>is the same as "existing at all"?As we can through their actions this is always just the beginning.>Not at firstIt was just a political move. But I don't know man, the Saxons and Frisians for an example seemed to not want it even with that in mind.
>>17984364and it wasnt christianity as defined by the nicean council
>>17983104Right? The whole thing is a masterclass in irony. They rolled in screaming about our 'sins', then committed every one in the book to force their guilt complex on everyone. Now their own hardliners admit the modern world they built is a spiritual wasteland, and the answer is to... Go live like pagans in the golden age. So we were right about how to live a good life, they were just better at branding and violence.
>>17985609>They rolled in screaming about our 'sins', then committed every one in the book to force their guilt complex on everyoneMy favorite episode is the Roman Catholic pornocracy that led to rules on celibacy in the first place.
>>17983398What about the mongolsAnd in any case indoeuropeans literally invaded, raped and killed their way through the old continent
>>17983104Neither side was peaceful but christians were bastards.
>>17983104paganism is no less correct than Christianity, HInduism or Buddhism. they have their uses and their unique qualities, just like animism, pantheism or deism.
>>17983104>demon worshippers>right about anythingBitch, please.
>>17983585The idols AREN'T THE FUCKING GODS THEMSELVES. The gods are not bound by the material world.
>>17984242Keep up. He compares us to councils of frogs and worms - i.e. animals - who presumptuously assume that our position in the natural hierarchy means something more than it does in terms of our relation to God. I am pointing out that this comparison fails to account for the fact that we are more than animals due to our capacity to self reflect. The point about the world being created for us is subordinate to his point about Christianity's supposed presumptions about the distinctiveness of humanity.
>>17983104>be homogeneous peaceful tribesThey were notorious to mix and band together with other races. Both vandals and Anglo-Saxons had tribes of iranic Alans among them. Or the Lombards that migrated together with bands of altaic Avars allies in Italy.Also "peacefull". Lol. LmaoAnd the only germanic tribe that was forced to concert were the Saxons. Every single other germanic tribe converted willingly
>>17983398>What Is the Heathen CrusadeThey didnt had mass coordinate holy wars aside that peculiar specific case because they were primitive savages splitted into rival tribes.Not because they were le peacefull wicca pagans
>>17985611The Latin Church was always more dedicated to the question of chastity lon>>17985641g before the Pornocracy, thanks to Augustine
>>17985723simon convinced me that all christian posters on this website are mentally ruled by demons
>>17985787Aren't you Thai?
>>17985787>Doesn't look like a cropped version of that image at all.KekThe faggot told you to reject the evidence of your eyes.
>>17985799The Barchive link is cut off. Can you even trust this person?
Yeah, it's a little hypocritical. Christianity demonized pagan traditions but inevitably absorbed local practices, symbols, and even landscapes.
>>17985787>not a maleDropped.
>>17983104>be homogeneous peaceful tribes who live simple lives aligned with natureImperial Rome led to Christianity rapidly spreading through Europe. Had there not been a large empire, it would've taken longer. Pagan Rome led to Christian Europe
>>17983104How could you be so wrong on nearly every point?>peacefulActually read something like the illiad or eddas, Pagans on even a base conceptual level were not peaceful. War was just seen as another part of life. For many christians too.
