What does philosophy and religion say happens after you die by suicide?
>>17983913Most religions are brutally clear. Suicide is a major sin, often condemning you to an afterlife of punishment, like Hell or a troubled reincarnation. Philosophically, many argue it just ends consciousnessThere is nothing left to experience, good or bad.
>>17983913Suicide doesn't end it, you just reincarnate as someone with even more pain who kills themselves too and the cycle goes on forever. It's an endless suicide loop
>>17983938Christian bible literally says nothing about suicide condemning you to hell
>>17983938Nowhere in any Abrahamic text is suicide explicitly stated to send anyone to Hell. In fact, Samson is treated as a hero for his suicide in the Old Testament.
>>17983938>As far as I know, none but the votaries of monotheistic, that is to say, Jewish religions, look upon suicide as a crime. This is all the more striking, inasmuch as neither in the Old nor in the New Testament is there to be found any prohibition or positive disapproval of it; so that religious teachers are forced to base their condemnation of suicide on philosophical grounds of their own invention. These are so very bad that writers of this kind endeavor to make up for the weakness of their arguments by the strong terms in which they express their abhorrence of the practice; in other words, they declaim against it. They tell us that suicide is the greatest piece of cowardice; that only a madman could be guilty of it; and other insipidities of the same kind; or else they make the nonsensical remark that suicide is wrong; when it is quite obvious that there is nothing in the world to which every man has a more unassailable title than to his own life and person.- Schopenhauer
>>17983938Didn't some martyrs kill themselves?
>>17983944>>17984097>>17984217Yeah I don't know where the myth that Christianity says you go to hell if you commit suicide comes from but its something I will still hear people say. I always assumed it was some ad-hoc Catholic belief but not even the Catholic church says that.
>>17984229It is based on the fact that any other killing gives you time to regret it and repent.
>>17983913>philosophySocrates’ trial was essentially a grand suicide since he was given the chance to escape and live by kissing the ass of the Athens’ government but he doubled down by insulting them. In Crito he explains his reasoning for wanting death.
The flames await.
>>17984273Thats a stretch
>>17984282But what if your current existence is already hellish enough? Nothing would change.
>>17984380How?
>>17983913Most religions threaten suicide with hell, which is just cosmic blackmail. Philosophy asks if a life you can't ethically escape is even a life at all. So, which is it? Cowardly sin or the ultimate act of bodily autonomy?
Suicide creates negative karma.
>>17984229>When you die, you go to heaven where everything will be perfect and you will be happy forever!>Okay! *Stabs self in throat*>Oh god I needed you to defend the city from Bumfuckus the Great's army...UHM actually god said suicide evil! Don't kill yourself!
>>17986608lmao its so transparent, true
suicide is still murder and murder is a mortal sin, it is an act of deliberately turning away from God’s Gracethere are some rare situations like severe mental illness or demonic possession where deliberately killing your own self might be less culpable for the murder, if you were not actually aware of what you were doing. but cold blooded murder in the 1st degree is still murder even if it’s yourself
>>17984508It implies that suicide and murder are the same, they aren't >>17986710Murder and suicide are not the same and the only unforgivable sin is blaspheming the holy spirit. Cope.
>>17986614If you are a midwitEven people with very strong faith would rather live, unless life was extremely painful, even if someone believes heaven is real they would rather live a good and long life and die of natural causes
